351 Responses to Start the Week 31 May 2021

  1. Deborah says:

    First.

    Usually I like (on the rare occasion that I am first) to post about something I have just seen on the BBC. However I am listening to a streamed wonderful concert at the Wigmore Hall; Bach and Beethoven.

    The BBC Proms will almost never allow proper classical music without sticking in a world premiere, or a new woman composer, or better still a black woman composer. The results are usually dire, and is music that will be quickly forgotten.. I am going back to my Bach.

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    • taffman says:

      Yes !

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    • Foscari says:

      Deborah- I am surprised that the BBC don’t make an announcement
      that the talk about them going completely diversity bonkers
      over classical music is untrue. And all they are going to
      do at the Proms in future is not play any white male classical music
      composer with the initial B. As it happens my favourite B is
      Bruckner. Whom of course idolized Bach and Beethoven.

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      • Deborah says:

        Foscari,

        Many years ago I went to a prom where they interlaced Mozart with Berg (Berg is much too modern for me but does have that dratted letter ‘B’ for openers). Putting ancient and modern together made both sound dreadful. Not sure whether the then Proms director thought it avante garde or just hadn’t bothered to listen ahead of the concert.

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        • Foscari says:

          Deborah I think that we may well be kindred spirits. I am
          actually a B as well. So they may well even stop playing
          the music of a certain relative of mine who was a jack
          of all trades when it came to music. He composed all
          different styles of music was a fine pianist and a
          great conductor. But we disagreed about Bruckner.
          He only ever conducted the 6th or 9 th symphonies of Bruckner.
          He found the rest too repetitive . Although he could play
          the 8th from memory on the piano.

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          • Garry Lavin says:

            Well this has been an enjoyable interchange…..

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            • Scroblene says:

              Well, I just love everything by Genesis, Judy Collins, Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, Vaughan Williams, Holst, Crosby Stills and Nash, Yes, Mark Knopfler, Marillion, Peter Paul and Mary, George Butterworth, Fish, Kate Bush, Maurice Durufle, Dire Straits, Pat Metheny, John Rutter, Delius, Debussy.

              I haven’t a clue what colour they are as they’re all white.

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              • touchjudge says:

                You forgot the Beach Boys – or should that be Beach Demiboys?

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                • Scroblene says:

                  Shurely you mean Demijohns…

                  This version of Cotton fields by the boys is just lovely – no angst, plenty of smiles and happiness, and a gorgeous crowd of nice youngsters and their folks!

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    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to latest posts on the previous thread
      Quiet, cos of bank holiday only 2 pages
      page 2 started 6:30pm Sunday

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    • Fred Stubber says:

      I usually listen to Swiss Classic. I just can’t do with the Beeb any more.

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      • NCBBC says:

        For light music I prefer Swiss Musicwelle.

        For a start ,I dont run the risk of being assaulted by Climate Change. Too, there is a wide variety of music in German, French, Italian and English.

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        • NCBBC says:

          As a further note, it seems there are a lot of Black singers on BBC Radio.

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    • maxincony says:

      Deborah,

      The BBC Proms will almost never allow proper classical music without sticking in a world premiere, or a new woman composer, or better still a black woman composer.

      Oh the suffering of not proper classical music. Meanwhile…

      BBC Proms, 2021:

      Sun 1 Aug,
      Johann Sebastian Bach
      Prelude and Fugue in E flat major
      Improvisation on Bach’s Prelude and Fugue in E flat major
      Fantasia and Fugue in G major
      Improvisation on Bach’s Fantasia in G major
      Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor

      Tue 3 Aug;
      Ludwig van Beethoven
      Symphony No. 4 in B flat major

      Sat 7 Aug;
      Ludwig van Beethoven
      Symphony No. 3 in E flat major

      Thu 12 Aug;
      Johann Sebastian Bach
      14 Canons (Goldberg Variations)

      Sat 14 Aug,
      Johann Sebastian Bach
      Keyboard Concerto in F minor

      Thu 26 Aug,
      Ludwig van Beethoven
      Concert aria ‘Ah! perfido’
      Symphony No. 2 in D major

      Sat 4 Sep,
      Johann Sebastian Bach
      Fantasia and Fugue in G minor

      Tue 7 Sep,
      Ludwig van Beethoven
      Piano Concerto No 4 in G major

      Thu 9 Sep,
      Johann Sebastian Bach
      St Matthew Passion

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      • taffman says:

        maxincony
        You’ve left out Rule Britannia !
        Now who was the idiot at Al Beeb that tried that stunt. Any ideas maxi ?

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        • JohnC says:

          Czech conductor Jiří Bělohlávek described the Proms as “the world’s largest and most democratic musical festival”.
          They weren’t very demcratic when they handed out EU flags at the door in their hissy fit over Brexit were they maxicony ?.
          Aren’t you even a little bit ashamed of what you are ?. Or are you so sure you are right, the majority who disagree with you must be taught to think like you ?.
          That’s fascism maxi. Do you even realise ?. Your very motivation to be on this forum is simple spite.

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          • maxincony says:

            JohnC,

            They weren’t very demcratic when they handed out EU flags at the door in their hissy fit…

            Who is “they”?

            That’s fascism maxi

            Yeah, whatever you say John. What’s the weather like in Thailand this morning?

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          • Seppers says:

            After standing in that arena during my teens/20s, then paying for seats 30s onwards – several concerts per season – I stopped going to the Proms after the eu flags thing.
            Felt the whole thing was now a political vehicle for the bbc and others.

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        • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

          Taffman bach! It’s been a Weil! How Arne You?

          I like a bit of Berlioz myself. Or Bizet of course. Shame there’s no Buxtehude in that organ recital. How about some Boyce to revive memories of Going For A Song, if you are old enough that is. Some Boccarini to remind us of that fine English film The Ladykillers. Some Bellini – Casta diva maybe? Balfe for a touch of the Emerald Isle. I assume you’ll be taking a pass on Berg, Berio, Babbitt and Bedford. That’s a shame.

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      • Nibor says:

        Maxincony ,
        Looks like you`ve got inside info there .
        Are YOU pleased with those future performances ?

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        • davylars says:

          Who is “they”?….

          Ideological Remainers. This group feels an emotional link with the ‘European project’, and supports greater power being exercised by supranational EU institutions. It sees national identity as outdated or even dangerous, and sometimes holds a vehemently negative view of Britain.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Debs, is your Bach worse than your Bitehoven?

      I’ll tip toe to the foot of the page, grabbing coat on the way.

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  2. digg says:

    After you Deborah!

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  3. Doublethinker says:

    There is yet another article in the the Telegraph from one of their columnists ( columnists are supposed to be ‘better ‘ than mere journalists and get paid more) saying how surprised and disappointed they are in the direction that Biden is taking the US. Yet last year at this time those self same columnists were fully supportive of China Joe and ferociously anti Trump. These idiots are supposed to know what is going on! But if you gave the US presidential campaign even a cursory glance you would have known that what Biden is doing , or rather his puppet masters are doing, is exactly what they said they would do. This idiot columnists is even saying that some of Trump’s policies were effective and good having excoriated them without exception last year. Of course we on this site all knew that most of his policies were the right ones but then we aren’t paid huge salaries to be stupid are we. I wonder what the recovery profile from Trump Derangement Syndrome is like? If we follow the columnist clowns we will soon find out.
    Either these communists are irredeemably stupid or they are trying to get out from underneath the mess that they have helped to create which will possibly bring the entire west down.

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    • Garry Lavin says:

      Yes, I noticed that. I couldn’t believe the brass neck.

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    • NCBBC says:

      TDS is a type of neurological ailment whose symptoms are the sufferer likes Tumpian policy but vehemently hates Donald Trump.

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    • NCBBC says:

      The west is scheduled for destruction via the Climate Change policy. Donald Trump removed America from the Climate Change scam, thus stopping the whole policy, as the EU could not afford it on its own.

      This I believe was why the Covid 19 flu was used by the entire left to hang it on Trump. In retrospect Trump was right on Hydroxycholoroquin etal. If we had doine what others in Asia did, we would have ten times fewer deaths in the West. Donald Trump responsible for rapid development of vaccines.

      The very first day in office, Biden resigned up to the scam of Climate Change, and too claimed vaccine development to his credit.

      Boris Johnson along with Prince Charles, swallowed the scam. Both now join the famous Climatologist from Sweden- Greta Thunberg. And you and I will pay for it via hidden increases in Electricity usage. Hidden because they know its a scam.

      Meanwhile China is laughing all the way to the bank.

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      • Seppers says:

        What is your evidence that this is a scam when so many scientists say its not?
        (I am not trolling, just asking. I hate the bbc, but for me the climate issue is convincing.) Why does everyone on here tie that issue in with bbc bias?

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        • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

          Seppers, It is unsupported theory treated as gospel by all and sundry.
          The sort of thing the BBC loves as it can manipulate the masses.
          Remember when not enough people bought into the story the Warmists decided to change the term from ‘sceptic’ to ‘denier’ in order to associate non-believers with Nazi apologists?

          It was this site that finally convinced me to look into the issue more closely than ever before. Going from believer to sceptic did not take me very long.
          I suggest you take time to read a couple of books by climate sceptics. They may not convince you, but I’m pretty sure once you are aware of the alternative arguments you will cringe every time you hear the mantra “The science is settled”.

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  4. taffman says:

    “Israel’s right-wing leader Bennett backs deal to oust PM Netanyahu”
    I don’t think Al Beeb and maxincony will be very happy about this ?
    As you are ‘live’, now what do you think, what’s your opinion ?

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  5. taffman says:

    “Boris Johnson marries Carrie Symonds at Westminster Cathedral”
    Third time lucky eh ?

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    • Fred Stubber says:

      It’s a pity because it means it’ll take that bit longer for him to get rid of her.

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      • taffman says:

        Fred Stubber
        I suppose it will as she is now running the country.
        That’s until Tory MPs with guts wake up .

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    • NCBBC says:

      I wish him the very best. He used to be a good bloke. Probably still is once he gets over it.

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  6. taffman says:

    “Brexit lorry park ‘ruins night sky’ for Kent residents”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57299121
    Great Britain’s independence, freedom and sovereignty is far, far greater than the Kent night sky .
    Another ‘own goal’ by the pro EU, evil Al Beeb. I am sure ‘true Brits’ will agree ? But our government just watches, fiddles about and lets the Evil Broadcaster carry on .
    Tories, what Tories ?

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  7. taffman says:

    “Poots: European Union treating NI as a political plaything”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57299360
    He has a point, Boris should stop playing about and get our Northern Irish brothers back on our side. They are more British than some of the people of England.

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  8. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Just a follow on from an earlier post where I asked how many tests were being done each day to get the 2,000 – 2,500 cases we are told on the news.
    Deborah told us the website and it showed about 760,000 tests carried out daily.

    Now that we are getting 3,000+ over the last few days I looked again and they are shown to be doing 960,000 tests (the latest number, probably yesterday, the 760,000 was on the 27th and nothing posted for 28-30)

    So then, positive cases higher but number of tests also considerably higher.

    FWIW, deaths today was 1 in 10 million (6 altogether)

    I don’t think the numbers are enough to stop the end of lockdown (or whatever we are currently in) so unless they can find another mutant version or double their testing to 2 million to boost the positive case number it looks like we should be free on 21 JUNE.

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    • taffman says:

      So many mixed messages coming form our government. They are at ‘sixes and sevens’.

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    • digg says:

      I think you will find they just announced the a Viet Nam super strain Emmanuel. They will eventually run out of Country variants so I expect the Martian virus is heading our way any time soon!

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      • Garry Lavin says:

        I read that. How has that happened? Vietnam closed its borders early on.

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    • NCBBC says:

      Will we be celebrating 21st June as VC day for the next decade.

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  9. StewGreen says:

    There was a genuine case of a brain tumour affecting a guy in Virginia in 2000
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2345971.stm

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  10. digg says:

    What I want to know is why the BBC consider themselves to be in the front line against anti-vaxers. They are journalists not scientists. They know nothing about the facts behind the science so just who is pulling their strings to make them such an adamant voice for authority?

    I’m not suggesting that the vax is good or not it’s just their holy right to take one side without question and label “everyone who disagrees is evil” stance with zilch scientific basis I object to.

    There is much more than we know about the links between MSM and the shadowy Globalists.

    I believe we have just been subjected to a training exercise by the globalist forces to test how far they can button us all down and I suspect this is only the beginning.

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    • taffman says:

      digg
      The fight back against ‘Wokeism’ has begun. The great British people have woken up and have noticed that the Lecturers at our ‘Yoonies’ and Al Beeb are the ones purveying it.
      The woke purveyors have taken on a tough cookie -The People of Great Britain, people from the land of Freedom of Speech and democracy.

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  11. vonrecht says:

    Expect lotsa ‘decolonisation’ garbage at yoonies, with Beeb not far behind, until such times as the great British people wake up, and some serious defunding takes place..
    Of course, ‘police violence’ could also be/come an issue. Was reminded of this by Shahidha Bari on R4 ‘Analysis’ -Foucault was the topic. In a densely packed ‘maybe he said this, maybe he said that’ presentation, a few punchy phrases right at the end gave us some clues…She’s a ‘professor’ of Fashion, or summat, and the spectre of a certain American very fashionable victim came to mind when she raised ‘police violence’..
    In our simplistic, looni yoonie world, a little phrase like that becomes an entire mindset. Talking about simplistic, what happened to that woman who was so big on ‘decolonisation’ last year ,,,I forget her name

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  12. StewGreen says:

    Thi twitter account monitors London murders
    since he made his calculations there have been a few more
    Including the Islington flower seller.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Mr WGAP’s new video

    BTW I see there is a Deriggs court sketch on Twitter

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  14. StewGreen says:

    WGAP : BBC Breakfast 25th May 2021 #10
    ..obviously one in a series about BBC Breakfast

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  15. Nibor says:

    So far I haven`t received a BBC threatogram DATED in May . I`ve received a threatogram in May dated April 2021 . For an organisation that does live broadcasts I would have thought their missives to me would be a bit more live .
    If this carrys on I look forward to 2030 when they send threatograms dated 2025 . Such is the backwardness of the BBC I expect the envelope to be in the Austin Allegro mustard colour of their heyday in the seventies .
    Apart from extreme wokeness and excessive wages , where does the BBC really leave old times and join the 21c ?

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    • taffman says:

      Nibor
      Just think of the all the money you have saved and will be saving.
      what about you maxincony ?

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  16. taffman says:

    “Islington flower seller Tony Eastlake stabbed to death”
    Anyone posted about this one here?

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    • NCBBC says:

      Plenty of very scrubbed news on this murder. Doesn’t give much away.

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    • JohnC says:

      Doesn’t ring like a black stabbing. They are almost always centred around greed/theft/money or other gangland criminal activity. This sounds like an argument.
      Though they will have a description of the other man and the complete lack of detail points at the usual suspects.
      I always find it amusing when they appeal for witnesses but do not give any description of the people they are looking for to jog peoples memories because they are black or Asian.

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  17. JohnC says:

    The BBC website has a ‘Must See’ section they use to promote articles they think warrant special merit and the links can stay on the front page for weeks.
    Lets look at what these extra-important topics we ‘must see’ are today:
    ‘Stuck on a world tour serving soup in Lahore’
    ‘The 91-year-old’s photos bringing Ghana to life’
    ‘Tulsa Race Massacre: What happened in 1921?’
    ‘Uganda: Finding the truth behind a killing spree in Kampala’
    ‘How opera helped me come out as trans’

    ‘Must see’ BBC ?. What a bizarre little bubble you all live in now.

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  18. Eddy Booth says:

    South Korea: From food wasters to recyclers
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-57278292
    “In South Korea, you’re required by law to separate your food waste so it can be collected and recycled.
    In less than three decades, the country has gone from a nation of food wasters to food recyclers.
    It’s been a great success story and the recycling rate is now over 95%.”

    Just an excuse to order people about: no wonder BBC is featuring it.
    I mean 100% of food gets recycled anyway, by bacteria, insects, birds etc
    If they want to help plants out, increase Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere

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    • JohnC says:

      Basically an extra tax and job creation.
      I wonder how much of that rotten food is really recycled in a way which does not actually increase the cost to produce new food.
      We will never be given information like that by the BBC. Same as the truth behind the real cost of wind turbines.

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  19. JohnC says:

    Just when you think they can’t get any more petulant:
    Brexit lorry park ‘ruins night sky’ for Kent residents
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-57299121
    ‘Floodlights at a Brexit lorry park in Kent have “destroyed” the night sky, residents say.’
    What on Earth is a ‘Brexit lorry park’ ?. It’s nonsense.
    I doubt you will see a more petty story this week – even from the BBC.

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    • Garry Lavin says:

      Good point. It’s simply a lorry park where drivers rest after they have driven for the allowed hours and wait for a ferry.

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      • Scroblene says:

        We had a building project some years ago, where they were going to turn the old barracks at the top of the hill outside Dover into a place to ‘shove the ragheads when they get here’.

        That didn’t work…

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  20. JohnC says:

    Whiplash: New rules to crackdown on fraudulent insurance claims
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57302790
    I wondered if they would dare to hint at the group of people who do it the most and perhaps give us a hint at the ethics of certain sections of society. But of course they don’t go anywhere near it.
    I did a search for the whiplash claim hotspots then a search for the cities with the highest Muslim population.
    https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-2151194/Top-hotspots-whiplash-accident-claims.html
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/870608/leading-cities-by-muslim-population-england/
    Of the 10 hotspots, 5 are also in the top 10 highest Muslim population.
    Of course maxicony will say it doesn’t prove anything. And if that doesn’t work, he’ll start calling people racists.

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  21. taffman says:

    “Hundreds more Afghans and their families to be allowed to settle in UK”
    Whilst I agree with these settling here the “illegals” pose a threat to our security .
    This Tory government appear to be hell bent in filling Britain up with people despite the lack of infrastructure , housing and space.
    This present government is full of clowns and actors. It just goes to show how bad the opposition is.

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    • JohnC says:

      Why do they always have to come here ?.
      Are there no Muslim countries we could sponsor them to move to where they would integrate more easily – or is the religion of hate so strong they are not safe anywhere ?.
      In my experience of developing countries, these people probably did not help because of ideological concerns, they did it for the money. Not the types of character we want to be importing.

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  22. popeye says:

    The Telegraph reports that vaccine passport plans are to be scrapped, one of the aims of the anti-vax demo in London that was so small (up to a million marchers, some say) that the BBC didn’t bother reporting it. Hopefully the Government learning that the Beeb does not reflect the views of people at large. Now get rid of the licence!

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    • taffman says:

      Have no concern about what Al Beeb reports as we know it’s biased. What it does not report is what we should be concerned about.

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  23. vlad says:

    I have no time for soap operas, especially BBC soaps, but I accidentally landed on Call the Midwife while channel hopping. Maybe I was just unlucky, but in the few minutes I lingered, there was a wicked Mother Superior in some Catholic institution, a heartless posh bloke, a wicked slum landlord, another wicked landlord, lots of plucky working class girls being victimised by various bad ‘uns or fighting back and righting wrongs, and a delightful, impossibly saintly black couple (such condescension is a kind of racism too).

    At which point I remembered why I never watch box-ticking BBC soaps.

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    • JohnC says:

      The BBC logo used to be a sign that whatever you were about to watch would be good.
      Now when I see it I expect exactly that kind of unrealistic rubbish you describe. It’s like the whole organisation has been taken over by politically motivated children caught up in a big group-think.

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      • taffman says:

        Why should a broadcasting outfit that hates Great Britain be funded by force of law by the people of Britain, the people it represents?

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        • JohnC says:

          In the early days of my software engineering career, I worked at British Aerospace just as the ‘cost plus’ way of giving contracts was being phased out. What that meant was they got paid whatever it cost them plus a specific profit margin on top.
          This led to the most incompetent and arrogant set of management you can imagine. The teams would be so large, swathes of people could exist just by attending meetings and discussing what everyone else was doing. Their pay was guaranteed however badly they performed and they all thought they were very, very important. And they were – right up until they left the office and went home to the real world. Where they were absolutely no use for anything.
          The BBC are the last bastion of that era. They are decades past the time they should have been reformed.

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          • Scroblene says:

            As a very junior quantity surveyor back then, the duodecimals were a pain in the a**e!

            Luckily, I escaped…

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        • Ian Rushlow says:

          Why should a broadcasting outfit that hates Great Britain be funded by force of law by the people of Britain, the people it represents?

          It’s a variation on the saying attributed to comrade Lenin:
          ‘the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we hang them with”

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  24. taffman says:

    Not on Al Beeb, but we need to take the offensive against ‘The Rejoiners’, all goods made in the UK should have the Union Flag and “Made in Great Britain” label on them. This will inform the world that “We are back!”. We have got to get the economy back to repay the money squandered by Bo Jo on COVID.

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    • Guest Who says:

      We have asked Morrison’s to deliver using a Typhoon.

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      • taffman says:

        Guest Who
        Have a word with Rushi Sunak, our next Prime Minister.

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        • theisland says:

          I thought he liked modelling those nasty ‘Diversity Built Britain’ coins.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It’s like they have an agenda.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Being a pessimist I muse on the longer term effects of the Chinese virus – making a potentially stupid assumption that the worst is over .

      Firstly – there is a lot of talk of inflation due to governments borrowing huge amounts of cash to give to people one way or another .

      From inflation comes increasing interest rates and taxes to pay off debts .

      However – if – somehow – the country responsible for all of this – China – was made to pay – then maybe the future might not be so bad as the version I am implying –

      – with potentially crippling interest rates – even a few per cent – and frozen or reduced funding of public services – with the discontent that come from that .

      This – obviously would be a Western World problem – not just Blighty – so the pressure on people trying to move to a more ‘successful ‘ economy might be worse than now …..

      This is based on the assumption that there is not another ‘black swan ‘ event – for which States are unprepared – or could not be prepared .

      I’m more than happy to be told why i am wrong ..

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      • JohnC says:

        I have an ominous feeling a bit like we are in the eye of the storm.
        The amount of money which has been thrown around without any regard to paying it back is absolutely staggering. It’s as if the blue touchpaper has been lit now we must all stand back and wait to see what happens.
        I’m no economist be I can’t possibly believe it can be anything like what we consider ‘normal’ for the next 5 or 10 years.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          JohnC

          I’m any ordinary punter in this . Is there more informed opinion any where I wonder ? Certainly the shallow propaganda driven group think of the BBC wouldn’t help any more .

          Stuff like ‘business news ‘ is now pre occupied with wimmin in the board room and tick box wokeness being rolled out by dumb big company boards – such as giving cash to political groups like the Marxist coloured folk. So that is not a place to look at .

          I rely – at the moment – on past memories – like the ERM disaster and what came after… could do better…

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          • Guest Who says:

            What was vs. is now.

            https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/when-the-bbc-still-did-its-job-the-evisceration-of-harold-wilson/

            Currently they are trying to push Surkeer on stats.

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Guest who – thanks – I didn’t think much of the article – but – folks – if you want laugh out loud entertainment – watch wrong daily being sliced and diced by Andrew Neill in the first 2 minutes .
              No wonder the BBC got rid of him . Makes me wonder if Labour will boycott Brillo TV

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              • Scroblene says:

                “Makes me wonder if Labour will boycott Brillo TV”

                I hope they do, we can then watch real news instead of woke, leftie dogma, paid for by the TV tax.

                The awful BBC’ll be ready to fawn all over that silly old US bloke who’s apparently visiting our country, but not entirely sure why…

                Be nice if GB News invited President Trump around then, just for balance, because as sure as I sit here riding this bike, I won’t be watching Air Force Commode arrive, or leave.

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        • vonrecht says:

          JohnC – I agree with you. What worries me is how little government, Sunak in particular, have been challenged or even questioned by the media and -far more importantly, the people of GB. Mention the virus, and every other debate is sliced off under the knee, including opening up the economy.
          The question: “where will all that money come from?” is trumped by ‘This is a pandemic, stupid; do you and your family want to die?’
          I think it’s going to take a lot more than 5-10 years, even if we print money like crazy – stoking up inflation– to pay the bills. Tax increases?
          Also agree with Fed: PC trivia is making the headlnes under the headings of ‘ the
          economy’ or ‘business’ ; if anything, the new buzzword ‘inequalities’ (how to ‘redistribute’ what little there is) now seems to take precedence at Beeb. To some extent the government’s ‘levelling up’ -which sounds fair enough- will encourage the mindless drive for equality of OUTCOME.

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          • JohnC says:

            It seems to me that these days – after Brexit and Trump – almost everything we are fed by the media now is agenda-driven by the Left. I simply don’t trust anything I read any more.

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            • Scroblene says:

              It’s not just the leftie dross we get John, it’s the tiresome squabble about Minge and Ginge which takes up so much screen, especially with the Mail and the Express.

              I really cannot care a rat’s bum about the pair of them, they’re parasites that need to be banished, and then maybe we’ll get some real winners to cheer on, not overpaid losers.

              But like you, I have no trust in most of the media these days, especially the awful BBC.

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      • Garry Lavin says:

        Even before covid, the growing economies of the west were all illusional….based on printed money and huge debt.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        It’s more a case of China being paid rather than having to pay for the consequences of their leaky US and EU-subsidised lab in Wuhan. Currently, around 15% of global debt is owed to Chinese banks (aka the Chinese government).

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Ian – I was thinking – write off the global debt as reparations

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          • Scroblene says:

            They could have done that back in the 2004/5 years, but then it was Labour ‘in charge’ so it would never be an option.

            So many businesses – including ours, suffered under the stain of Blair and Brown who effectively bankrupted the country.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    BBC holding power to account meets BBC editorial integrity.

    https://camera-uk.org/2021/05/29/bbc-refuses-to-give-comment-to-bbc-on-employees-antisemitic-tweets/?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes – let’s not talk BBC anti semitism – let’s talk squirrels . Labour and the BBC – so much in common

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  26. Guest Who says:

    The trend to defining oneself by hairstyle seems a rather odd one to champion.

    But an apt one for the current media age.

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC HR, any given day…

      “So, person of no discernible talent, what makes you think you are qualif….”

      “Check out the ‘fro, racist!”

      “Starting Monday good for you?”

      Defence correspondent looks a go. Sorry about that white bloke…

      I am revisiting my job title to Czar, which during furlough appears to ensure public funding at least in excess of £100k.

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    • Rich says:

      Lukwesa Burak has apparently been working on-screen in the media for nearly 20 years and has worked for Sky, Al-jazeera and the bBbc. There are numerous pictures of her working with her hair seemingly naturally styled and there is this from 2012.

      https://archive.voice-online.co.uk/article/hair-today-gone-tomorrow

      Hasn’t been held back too much has she? “Not easy” my arse, she’s always had a choice.

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  27. Fedup2 says:

    BBC Expert watch

    I’m slightly limited in this because I am using the BBC less and less in all areas .

    But anyway – how does the BBC use / deploy people they put up as ‘experts ‘ ? CoVid has highlighted this because of the range , opinion and motivation of ‘experts ‘.

    First there is the ‘motivation ‘ . Does the BBC make it clear what the background of said expert is ? We see plenty of examples here where – retrospectively – theBBC is forced to declare the politics of an expert – after the damage is done – or Twitter has to point the failure out .

    Second – there is the ‘quality ‘ of the expert – chiefly – how often have they been right or wrong in the past ? I know that the BBC still regularly uses a favourite expert who has been wrong in the past on fundamental issues – why should such a person be relied on ? Yet alone paid by the BBC ?

    Then – the format by which the Expert is put up . So often the format is ‘ expert and beeboid’ – with no real contrarian challenge – leaving the ‘expert ‘ to spout stuff without proper informed challenge ?

    Lastly – motivation – ( yes x2)who pays the expert ? Pressure group ? Charity ? Professional body ? Where is the ‘self interest ‘ in what the expert is saying . Again – covid has highlighted the medical mafia being rolled out for Operation More Money without much by way of challenge or analysis of what those 1.7 million people employed in the NHS have been doing ….

    Summary – more detail needs to be put up before the ‘expert ‘ is on screen – in order for the public service to be done as opposed to another propaganda piece by said BBC .

    ( notice I didn’t even mention the experts on project fear rolled out 97% of the time by the BBC over Brexit )

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    • JimS says:

      Don’t forget the BBC’s own ‘experts’, subject ‘editors’, ‘desk officers’ in military speak.

      That means that just about very BBC news item moves seamlessly from an impartial(?) report into an opinion piece as the news reader hands over to their own BBC correspondent/editor to tell us what the news ‘really’ means.

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  28. Guest Who says:

    The comments…. especial wokistas. 😂

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    • Garry Lavin says:

      I’ve been to the band tent on the last night a couple of times ….nice venue for a party. But I know exactly what he means.
      Very tribal and knowing…im surprised they don’t have a special handshake.

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  29. theisland says:

    Can anyone name one Tory MP who isn’t facilitating, either by stupidity or design, the eradication of (in particular) the ENGLISH people?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Once various constituencies are swamped by various brands of foreigner your average politician has to ‘meet their needs ‘ to keep their votes – including developing a sophisticated fraud system if it’s a tight majority …..( see 2025)

      For instance – my MP – IDS seems more interested in China than Chingford ( and loves the Chinese Muslims ) – but I have to vote for him otherwise it’s a female paki career Labour politician

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      • Scroblene says:

        It could be worse, Fed, I have to vote for Greg Clark, but hell would freeze over before any lefties got anywhere in T.Wells!

        At least we got The People’s Palace cancelled – Tories again, wasting £100,000,000.

        (The BBC have an unmanned studio nearby, that would have been a temple of misery…)

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Scrob
          What gets me is any MP of whatever caste – who put more effort into overseas issues than basic stuff here – such as elderly care – neglect – which I submit led to those Care Home deaths last year .

          At the height last year I watched my council ward – which is ok solid hard working Tory . The infection /death rate should have been very low – but it was very high . When I looked at maps of the ward there were clusters . The clusters were care homes .

          But – as some say – such as extreme remainers – they were old so they were gonna die any way …..

          Declaration – I am not directly affected by this but am older now than when I started writing this .

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  30. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – I wonder what compensation he is offered or asks for?

    The BBC (a.k.a. the Licence Fee taxpayer) foots the bill for the holiday for the entire family? An overseas freebie for Nick and his family is provided by the BBC (a.k.a. the Licence Fee taxpayer) ? A cash payment of many thousands of £s from the BBC (a.k.a. the Licence Fee taxpayer) ? Who knows?

    Maybe all will be revealed by the end of the programme but I am not listening at present.

    Nick Robinson did not go to Portugal for the footie final and was instead staying in the Lake District with his family for a holiday. It does give him a chance to rub shoulders with a celebrity, James Rebanks. Did you know James Rebanks is a celebrity author? Yes, is a celebrity, Nick tells us as does Sarah Smith in her links to Nick. They love celebrities at the BBC.

    Nick Robinson is taking the opportunity to do some healthy holiday Brexit Bashing up hill and down dale with lots of doubts about trade deals. With a celebrity.

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  31. Jeff says:

    Just when you thought that they had scraped right through the bottom of the race barrel, our state broadcaster are back on their favourite subject.

    Yesterday evening on BBC1 at 11.30 we had Anton Ferdinand: Football Racism and Me. This bloody thing went on for an hour with endless scenes of Ferdinand, his brother and various black blokes wandering along corridors (for some reason) as they moaned about racism.

    There’s an infamous scene that those of us interested in football all know about, when John Terry, then captain of high flying Chelsea, took on their neighbours, QPR. Ferdinand played for Queens Park and Terry was captain of Chelsea.

    During the (somewhat, cough…) heated contest Terry and Ferdinand had an exchange where (it’s alleged) Terry made a racist remark. I’ve seen the footage. I think every football fan has. And for what it’s worth, I think John Terry did day what was alleged…but, so what?

    “I just couldn’t quite believe what I’d heard” said Anton, looking aghast, lips quivering and eyes misting. All that was lacking from this melodrama was a violin accompaniment…

    Numerous talking heads were brought on to look equally shocked and distressed. Naturally enough, our very own Gary Lineker was on hand to give us his opinion on this horrendous affair. Honestly, I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. Two grown men spit insults at each other. Who gives a flying fxxx?

    I’m waiting for the long overdue documentary that explores some of the notoriously violent challenges (assaults) conducted by John Fashanu when he played for Wimbledon. There’s an equally infamous scene where he’s looking down at a crumpled opposing player, licking blood from his fingers and saying, “Hmmm, I love the taste of white man’s blood.”

    Come on BBC…
    What are you waiting for?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Coloured player with chip plays up for post footy race career shock . Their agents really do them well…

      Saw an interesting discussion about the ‘knee’ next season. The approved view was that if players want to ‘knee’ they can .

      But then the counter was – well people who ‘boo’ should be able to exercise that lawful right .

      Unless – of course – booing becomes a public order offence – 6 months or £5000 fine or both

      Maybe ‘ racially aggravated booing ‘gets you 5 years …

      Booooo..,,

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  32. Fedup2 says:

    Up2
    It’s only right that rich people with large lumps of Blighty are paid taxpayers money to have that land . And it’s only right that the likes of the military practice battles in nice bits of the country rather than build simulations of Luton or Bradford or Lewisham for urban warfare practice …

    But then again – I’m a towny …

    By the way – has the BBC been talking about the National (dis) Trust at all …..without mentioning tweed …

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    • Up2snuff says:

      TOADY Watch #2 – it may be a Bank Holiday but let’s carry on bashing Brexit

      Don’t think the Natural Truss got much of a mention, Fed, but I only listened to patches of the programme. It’s in a bit of an upheaval, the Truss, ‘cos of Remainer attempts to sabotage a Trade Deal with Oz. George Eustice was the Mint Source on Cabinet kerfuffles and was asked about it by Nick. George is having quite a good Covid and comes across well on air; BBC 0 : 1 Cabinet Minister (Full Time).

      The other Natural Truss is also in a bit of a state because members do not like the Wokist stance the female CEO is taking on statues and are cancelling their subscriptions. A little hint of the havoc that can be caused by cancelling a TV Licence and either giving up telly watching or getting a contract with Netflix TV or Amazon TV or whatever. This site has advice on going legally TV Licence free: tv-licensing dot blogspot dot com

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  33. AsISeeIt says:

    Foreign queens, summer children and other bumbling media ramblings

    The Guardian this morning appears to be having something of an episode… a paranoid breakdown: ‘Combustible insulation put on 70 schools since Grenfell‘ combines with: ‘“Third wave” fear casts doubt on lifting of lockdown’ – quite why the familiar phrase third wave qualified for scare quotes there – other than the sheer scariness of that punctuation escapes this reader. Could it be because we’ve already been cautioned once or twice previously about third waves and so this might just be the fourth, or is it fifth, iteration of this particular scare?

    If there’s one thing we learned from Brexit, it was that exaggerated Project Fear claims, which ultimately failed to materialise, simply scuppered the credibility of their authors.

    The Guardian’s latest attack line on Boris comes from an oddly conservative angle: ‘Some catholic priests protested at the twice-divorced PM being allowed to marry in Westminster Cathedral

    Do we suppose the gay marriage celebrating, pro-abortion, female priest supporting, atheistic, Guardian a title perfectly at home in a BBC staff room is suddenly the first choice read in catholic seminaries? Perhaps it is?

    Or perhaps the Guardian requires some sort of intervention from its friends, before it irrevocably self-harms with its hysteria?

    Here comes a metaphor that Boris, the fan of the Greek classics, would appreciate.

    Like the Trojan priestess Cassandra, one keeps warning of the actual impending crises – which will be economic (probably with some bitter racial fall out) – yet one is cursed never to be believed:

    All the auguries are there, if one cares to look for them and they are self-inflicted: ‘Motorists face biggest annual fuel price surge in 10 years‘ (Telegraph);

    Carbon costs threaten airlines’ recovery‘ (FT);

    ‘As England’s coronavirus eviction ban comes to an end on Monday, around a million households fear losing their homes, a charity says‘ (BBC);

    Bank cuts emissions by embracing zoom‘ (Telegraph);

    We are hurtling perilously towards segregation‘ (Nick Timothy in the Telegraph);

    Hundreds more Afghans and their families to be allowed to settle in UK‘ (BBC)

    Think of the children, as the media would often tend to exhort us to do.

    Concern over labelling of summer children‘ – this Telegraph headline might qualify for the ‘i’ newspaper’s ‘Bumper bank holiday puzzels pull-out‘ as a conundrum under the category of guess the story from the cryptic headline.

    In case you were wondering: ‘Children born in the summer are being disproportionately labelled by primary schools as having special educational needs‘ – quick maths tells me such offspring are conceived in the autumn – so don’t say you haven’t been warned to adopt suitable precautions prior to this impeding crisis.

    ‘Pupil exodus signals cuts in London school budgets‘ (FT)

    My sceptical metaphorical whiskers tend to twitch when the liberal media present me with a supposed fact such as this and then rush to varnish their report with their stock narrative explantions in what I might judge undue haste: ‘The combination of EU migrants returning to their home countries and families moving out of London, which became less attractive during coronvirus lockdowns…

    And finally, the sting in the tail, your foreign queens story: ‘Beekeepers urged to avoid foreign queens‘ (Telegraph) – how come this apparently xenophobic, bigoted Little Englander aversion to the humble bumble from abroad?

    I quote Jo Widdicombe, the outgoing president of the British Beekeepers’ Association and a beekeeper for 30 years [If only she had been named Jo Honeycomb]: ‘“Southern European imports do really well in warm climates and settled weather, which we don’t get in Britain often”

    What… someone who obviously knows their stuff and with decades of experience of the close observation of nature and weather conditions don’t reckon global warming is a thing?

    I guess then we shouldn’t get too excited about the Express story: ‘Britain hits the beach and gets ready for 77F today‘- ah the welcome return of Fahrenheit – when it delivers a higher number than Celsius in a headline.

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    • Old Goat says:

      “Hottest day of the Year so far”. It’s still May, ffs – and 24 or 25 is peanuts, anyway. I hate the press and the broadcasters.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        OG, ca va bien? Here in Kent, despite the Global Warming, the wind has a cutting edge to it and in the shade it is still chilly. I must post on this for TOADY.

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        • Old Goat says:

          Tres bien, merci – et vous?

          After a bastard (excuse my French..) cold, windy, long, yet unexciting winter, the sun has come out for us in the last few days with about 25 degrees, which is no great shakes for late May. Even had our first thunder rumbling around yesterday afternoon.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Bien aussi, OG. if I recall correctly you are not quite in Provence. Hopefully, you do not have to endure the thunderstorms that can roll around the hills there – so I’m told. I stumbled on a slightly previously dampened (how appropriate!) copy of ‘A Year in Provence’ while poking around a Kent town two years ago. It was the illustrated version with watercolours (how appropriate again) and as I had not read it I was happy to fork out the tiny sum asked for it.

            I found it a charming and informative read, and a chapter a day after lunch was a pleasant way to aid the digestion.

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  34. Sluff says:

    How often does the BBC quote a ‘Leading Scientist’ about covid?

    And how often is it to inform the debate? How often are differing views presented? How often do they quote a ‘Leading Economist’ about the impact of covid?

    The real purposes of BBC news are to s***-stir and to undermine the government.

    Personally I don’t see June 21 as sacrosanct. After all this time, is a week either way that material? Other readers may differ, and that’s OK. But very clearly, the BBC are a. hauling out experts wishing to cast doubt over the date and b. hoping then to embarrass the government whichever decision they take.

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    • JohnC says:

      I’ve noticed their use of phrases like ‘which experts say’ without any evidence whatsoever has grown a lot in recent times.
      They have got away with murder after Floyd and BLM and their confidence has grown to the point where they now think they can define the news, not report it.
      IMHO they are still seething about Brexit and Trump.

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      • Old Goat says:

        “Scientists say” is another one. What scientists? Name them! And what do they say? Wheel ’em on…

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        • Jeff says:

          Scientists can say what they like. I’m a gardener and I can tell you that the season this year is at least three weeks, if not more, late.
          My magnolia (Susan) has just begun flowering, the wisteria is in early bud and my tulips are still alive and kicking.
          All this seasonal hesitancy is to do with how bleedin’ cold and miserable it’s been, until now.
          Global warming…
          Pah!

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Jeff
            Which bit of Blighty are you ? Seems to me April showers started in March and have only just ended .

            I think people have been miseducated to expect seasons to run for the same period each year when there are so many natural variables to change things – without the input of humans …

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Fed, our Jeff is near Kew Gardens, if I recall correctly, which makes him near one of the football teams ‘of the moment’ now in the Premier League.

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              • Jeff says:

                Well remembered Up2. I’m a member of Kew Gardens and try to get there about every fortnight, or so.
                Actually I now live in sunny Surrey, but it only takes about an hour and three trains, if I’m lucky.

                Alas, my football team is no longer in the Premier League.
                Fulham had an(other) appalling season and were relegated.
                Bloody useless…

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    • Deborah says:

      To be honest, I cannot remember exactly what I am supposed to be able to do at the moment re covid and what more I will be allowed to do come June 21st. I am not planning a holiday in India, or even France for that matter. I am not planning to attend the proms this summer (only the second time in rather a lot of years) as I am not ready to Tube travel. I might refer Maxi to Proms 5 and 6 as their programmes fit my predictions. However I am planning on being laid back and careful, being behind the curve in my return to a world where we live with covid.

      However I am not terribly keen to listen to a SAGE member who is a committed communist (who sold a Picasso rather than keep it and enjoy it). I hope that the vaccinations keep figures in hospitals low, and SAGE shut up.

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  35. Sluff says:

    Cast your minds back to when you were at primary school. Or in my case infant school or junior school.

    Was ‘gender stereotyping’ a major issue for you?
    No?
    Me neither.

    What dinosaurs we were!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-57256075
    ‘Gender sterotypes-primary schools urged to tackle issue’.

    Hands up all those who even think it IS an issue?
    No-one.
    Except the BBC.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Screwed up sex / race obsessives who want to screw everyone else up

      Doing pretty well judging by the number of times the BBC goes on about queues for ‘ mental health services ‘

      Try less BBC – less News and Social media – more air and sunshine … im writing this from a beach far far away ..

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    • digg says:

      It’s right out of the Marxist playbook Sluff. the idea is that you relentlessly break society up into small grudge groups, This has the effect of both splintering mainstream society and thus diluting “bad” stuff like patriotism and family values whilst generating false so called “oppressed” groups who can then be used for anti-society publicity and propaganda.

      The BBC are conducting a propaganda war against the majority of the British people it’s as simple as that.

      Of course the only “oppressed” group they couldn’t give a toss about are the low-paid working class usually “Northern” folk, probably because they are held responsible for the success of things like Wetherspoons and therefore hateful stuff like Brexit etc.

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  36. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – watch out watch out, – it’s those Cumbrian hills ….

    I noticed that the weather forecasts this morning on R4 have been big on the Fear Factor, making sure it is several notches higher than the sun screen is rated at. “It’s going to be warm and sunny.” says the Weatherman “But don’t go outside, the UV will kill you.” They love to keep scaring people, don’t they, the BBC?

    Where Nick is broadcastingtelephoning from, the Lake District, you do have to take care. Firstly, the air is clearer and if you are a pale City centre hermit for much of the year and you spend a day on the hills in sun without sunscreen, you may be a little red when returning to rest at night.

    Secondly, in Cumbria the weather can change in an instant. Setting off in sunshine and warmth makes you think “Wonderful weather.” but it can suddenly become very wet and cold. Carry the right kit in your daysack; sweater and/or gilet or full fleece, waterproof and gloves, map, compass, torch, energy bar, chocolate and juice drink. Wear some good footwear, too. Let someone know where you are going and what time you expect to be back.

    It is possible to die from hypothermia in high summer on a Cumbrian fell.

    The BBC did not think to give out sensible advice, they just stoked up the fear.

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    • Sluff says:

      Good post.
      Yeah, the MRT records are just stashed with all those emergency recoveries due to sunburn.

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  37. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Interesting reporting by the bBBC last night on Boris’s wedding. I was waiting in the chinese takeaway watching the ‘news’ without volume but with the dialogue text on.
    The message was very much that Boris has always had a wife and a girlfriend, and now that he is newly married, how will he manage without a girlfriend?
    This dross was served up with a serious face.

    It led me to think, my thoughts are that the bBBC detest Boris. Any negativity, Boris hater, SNP trash, or Europhile is constantly wheeled on to belittle and criticise him.

    And yet, he is the reddest Tory of them all. He parrots their line quite accurately, from benefits for all to why we need millions of unskilled Pakistani muslims or sub-Saharan Africans. I see little Thatcherite steel or ideology, in fact he is closer to the bBBC than Maggie.

    This UK mainsteam media will be emboldened by the shenanigans in the last US election where the US MSM appointed the President, regardless of the vote, and now have their guy in the chair. It would be quite a stretch for them to fiddle Starmer in using postal votes/immigrant votes/preprogrammed voting machines in the immediate future, but I think it’s what they are working towards.

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  38. theisland says:

    Intelligence sources were saying as far back as March 2020 that it was strongly suspected the virus was man-made and probably released unintentionally from the lab.
    Article from June 2020 with comments by Col. Kemp. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sinister-links-trace-coronavirus-back-22140342

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  39. BRISSLES says:

    So, Wales is the first national country to decree that Black History & Studies will be mandatory in the schools curriculum. A black teacher was shown asking the class if they knew who George Floyd was. Oh how I wish someone would have answered “yes, he was a thug”.
    Its ok though to delete the likes of Charles Dickens as reading material !

    In not too many years hence, the United Kingdom will be inhabited by those who clearly have heritage elsewhere. We are already at the stage where many who have jobs on tv have names that cant be called British by any stretch of the imagination, and are quite frankly hard to pronounce. Surely those BAMEs born in this country should consider their ‘heritage’ as British – as we must be on second or third generations by now, yet hang on doggedly to that of their great grandparents. Racism will never be eradicated while ever they are this intransigent.

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    • Jeff says:

      We had a “Black History Month” when I lived in Lambeth, south London. I think they do it every year.
      The one I attended concentrated on slavery, though sadly not on the true story, but the preferred “Roots” version. IE Africans were rounded up at gun point by whites and were shoved onto ships at the point of a pistol. Complete nonsense, of course. African slaves were sold by their fellow Africans. Various tribal people they had captured while fighting. It’s a story as old as time.

      They did have one section I’ll never forget. “Famous Black People in History.” Two seemed highly unlikely candidates; Abraham Lincoln and Beethoven! Honestly, you couldn’t make it up.
      Apparently Lincoln was added to this somewhat dubious list because he had behaved well towards black people and “looked odd” for a white bloke and Beethoven had a natural sense of rhythm…and had an unusually broad head.
      Bloody Nora!

      Lucky they can’t see me…

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      To all movements there is a counter reaction.

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    • JimS says:

      History of place is the only sensible way to teach history at school.

      At my junior school over half the class were children of immigrants from Scotland, Ireland and Wales. We were fascinated to learn about the original settlers in our district, why they had settled and where and the origins of the local names.

      History of a people is designed to keep peoples apart. History of people, as in family history, can be equally fascinating but by definition is unique to a family and can’t be taught in school.

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    • pugnazious says:

      Violent criminal and drug addict who died whilst resisting arrest….of heart failure induced by his drug taking.

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    • taffman says:

      The Welsh Assembly should be “Cancelled” .
      They are giving the right to vote to 16 year old kids .
      Kids that never worked never paid tax and have brains that are receptive to woke propaganda dished out by the education system in Wales .
      Will they teach the dark side Black History & Studies. The slaughter and summary that went on in the tribes before the British civilised the continent.
      The slavery that went on before the British Navy’s Preventative Squadron put an end to it .

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  40. StewGreen says:

    Kellogs All Together : Gay Pride cereal
    Someone just mentioned it on the radio, but I see the story is from October 2019
    AFAIK it was a limited edition not millions of boxes
    #2 The box is a bit of a con, cos inside there are 5 mini-boxes of cereal

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/kellogg-partners-with-gay-rights-group-for-all-together-cereal-and-twitter-is-not-happy-194510338.html

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    • moggie63 says:

      I’m no expert on cereals but are any of those brown? Because, if not, waaaayyyyciiiiiists!

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Kelloggs, founded by the John Harvey Kellogg, the eugenicist who also founded the Race Betterment Foundation. A religious nutcase and vegetarian who believed in sterilising the less worthy. Uncannily similar ideas to those later adopted by Mr A Hitler and friends. Cornflakes were specifically invented to discourage people masturbating, so a bit ironic if the modern company teams up with a group of wankers to promote woke capitalism. Funny old world, innit?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_Betterment_Foundation

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Dr Kellogg was also obsessed with his own bowel movements and those of others, too. He ran a sanatorium, if I recall correctly and think someone made a movie about him. I’m not sure I should own up to the fact that one of my distant relatives worked for him.

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  41. Sluff says:

    BBC 1 pm news.

    Guess what?
    They’ve dredged up a 100 year old ‘massacre’ of black people. By white people. In America.

    Survivors are fighting for compensation.
    Cue mention of George Floyd.

    The Black Broadcasting Corporation does it again.

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  42. pugnazious says:

    Just heard the WATO interpretation of the Tulsa Riots in which a ‘murderous mob of white people’ massacred 300 or more blacks…the BBC mentions no whites being killed.

    Hmmmm…the official body count was 36….26 blacks and 10 whites….so the actual number of dead is unknown in reality…but the BBC likes the dramatic and more murderous 300…with no whites mentioned….and no mention of the armed mob of blacks who marched into the white area…the mob that killed ten whites…the real spark for the riots

    The BBC tells us that the blacks were bombed from the air…shockingly not by the Japs or the Nazis or Islamists but by fellow Americans.

    Hmmm…and yet there is little to no evidence….it’s all ‘I heard’, ‘He said, She said’…..yep, there were aircraft in the air…the police were observing events and there were Press and sightseers apparently….an official report suggests it was possible that someone might have been able to drop some form of incendiary or shoot from a plane but there’s no evidence other than hearsay…of people who may have mistaken the police planes, which were dropping messages to the ground in canisters, as ‘bombers’.

    Here’s an official report from 2001…

    http://www.okhistory.org/research/forms/freport.pdf

    The BBC of course finished by bringing up George Floyd…as always…’murdered by a racist policeman’….except of course there’s no sign that race played any part in what happened and the race issue was not part of the trial…Chauvin was not convicted of a race killing….however the BBC decides there is a direct link between Floyd and Tulsa….things, the BBC tells us, haven’t changed for Blacks…they’re still being ‘lynched’ by Whites in America today.

    The BBC busy trying to whip up Black anger and hate towards all Whites based on toxic, incendiary and dangerous lies.

    Most dangerous and divisive organisation in Britain.

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    • vonrecht says:

      Sluff & Pug- If the bbc wanted to report on current, racially-motivated daily murders, torture, violent assaults, armed robberies etc (i.e. actual NEWS) they need merely look at ‘South Africa Today’ under the heading ‘Farm attacks’.
      I say racially-motivated, because the victims are overwhelmingly white (sometimes black farm workers are also murdered); I need hardly tell you who the perpetrators are, or about the extreme brutality involved.
      Yesterday, e.g. John Viedge was shot dead through the security gate at his farm in McClear, when the attackers couldn’t open it. Look back, and you will find hardly a day without such an attack, many times several a day.
      But this ongoing tragedy wouldn’t suit Beeb’s narrative. Might cast doubts on some of their much-loved historical ‘saints’, for one thing. And we haven’t even started talking about the cities yet…or black on black violence, a non-topic, as with the USA.

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      • vonrecht says:

        By the way, the site mentioned above is not for you if you’re ‘squeamish’. I took a look at the last numbered page block (188) and found myself looking at an article entitled: “Why are white farmers always tortured?” from 24 Feb 2014. This was asked by a lady, named in the article, with the picture of a surviving victim of a farm attack at Tabita, displaying the results of plastic surgery to neck and face.
        I didn’t carry on any further.
        This sad saga has been going on for quarter of a century, it seems, but none of it deemed newsworthy by beeb, far as i can tell.

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        • Scroblene says:

          I made the mistake on looking up an old friend’s address in Johannesburg, on Google Earth.

          The ‘street’, while affluent was entirely walled on both sides with barbed wire, 12′ high brick defences, double gates, security cameras and all the fearsome aspects of a prison.

          I wish they’d come back to the UK when they could have afforded to, now they can’t because the money just isn’t there.

          Third World here they come.

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  43. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Again, I turn the tv on and for about an hour it’s like watching TV Africa.

    Welsh schools with teachers called Wazeem and similar telling the children what and how to think about black history.
    All the adverts with black and asians (and the occasional token whitey when they need somebody stupid or simple)
    So far, all news readers heavily tanned.

    It’s everywhere.
    It’s gone beyond normal everyday life as we see it although in about 15 years the whites will have lost control as more places get contaminated.

    Newcastle now has a Muslim Lord Mayor (who will no doubt be filling and creating lots of posts for his family and friends) along with their black mp.

    It’s incessant.
    When will the worm turn.
    What a shithole they are turning this once green and pleasant Land into.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Couldn’t agree more Emm. Its called being brain washed by stealth. I said in an earlier post that the population in a few years time will consist of African and Asian names, and I remember somewhere that someone said about a certain section of our society having the ‘whip hand’ ??

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  44. Beltane says:

    More bad news for the BBC’s favourite political mastermind, Nickers Sturgeon, as her Indy Taskforce head Marco Biagi quits after only a brief time at the mill, saying: ‘What I thought was the best job ever is actually the worst’.
    In what’s described as a ‘subtle dig’ at Angus Robertson, Biagi commented that he was disappointed to find that Edinburgh Central ‘decided they would rather have a pompous and impressionable idiot than me’.
    Mind you, although there are many similarities, if Marco confuses Robertson with Ian Blackford, maybe he wasn’t too good at the job anyway.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      George Galloway describes Blackford as ‘ investment banker – turned crofter ‘ …

      And mr blackford never refers to his previous life making money as a banker

      Makes salmond look straight …,

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      • Beltane says:

        A minor observation, but have you noticed how Blackford copies one of Gordon Brown’s strange little habits, continuously and unnecessarily straightening the top left hand corner of the notes he reads from in the Commons? Weird. But true.
        And both men oddities in their own right of course.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          He also has a mental block about mentioning England – can only say Westminster ….
          ….. does a good comedy act – he nearly got a round of applause when the line from his Croft went down in a PMQ recently …
          ……..will make a great pantomime villain but stiff competition in the SNP ..

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          • Scronker says:

            Blackford the crofter should now be on his croft tending to this year’s lambs and not spouting cr@p at Westminster.

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  45. Scroblene says:

    Senora O’Blene has just had hysterics!

    As usual, a normal post-prandial tincture started a recall of likeable TV progs from years ago – none of the weedy dross they do nowadays – and she asked me to YouTube (via speakers – oh yes, plenty of hi-tech stuff here), the Morecambe and Wise ‘Nothing like a dame’ scene from all those years ago!

    Blimey, these shows were fabulous back then, very, very funny, something to look forward to, and still hilarious to this day, even as she had the iPad and I was sitting a couple of yards away (I don’t like being far away from Senora O’Blene, she’s gorgeous).

    The awful BBC have totally ruined proper humour, fun for all, family values etc., and must go a.s.a.p.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Scrob
      Ive suggested watching the news as though its comedy and awarding woke points .

      Or doing a tickbox list of subjects being covered .- or more importantly -not covered …

      Im surprised Fawlty Towers isnt on the banned list for racial stereo typing – mocking the mental and the outright racism of the major . ….

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      • G.W.F. says:

        A bit of crude comedy too. Here is the news, farting newsreader blowing it out

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  46. Beltane says:

    Anyone that missed David Mitchell’s biased rant on HIGNIFY, blaming Martin Bashir for the potential demise of the BBC, really should dip in to Youtube to re-examine his hissy-fit.
    Dismissing the news as ‘boring and tabloid’ he uses his spittle-flecked stage to accuse the Tories of using the opportunity to close down our valued broadcaster, losing to the world a treasure-house of comedy, drama and documentaries…..

    If only they had the balls DM.

    And while you mull that over, why not admit the comedy you cry about is all repeated and the funniest of them barred on spurious ‘racist’ grounds, the dramas hugely overshadowed by ITV and the documentaries by Ch4.

    Other than that, and the fact that you have a gorgeous (though no doubt equally woke) wife, your points are actually valueless.

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  47. digg says:

    I believe the BBC, Guardian and Independent think they are acting craftily rolling on Prof this and Prof that to warn Boris about not opening up on the 21st.

    Who are these experts and how come they get a hotline to the BBC?

    I think the plan nothing to do with Covid it is to corner Boris into a no-win scenario.

    If he goes ahead and lifts the restrictions there will then be a raft of people mysteriously found who got sick and the BBC will have a hotline to every one. The story will be Boris was reckless and put lives in danger and the BBC will be spouting “Experts told you so!”.

    If he caves in and extends the lock-down, lots of his own voters and backers will scream with anguish and anger and the likelihood is then for far more protest marches and mobs on the streets.

    The whole thing falls far short of journalism and is much more like political activism on behalf of the media.

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  48. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Digg.

    I mentioned a few days ago that the presenter on radio newcastle made a remark saying ALL the scientists we have interviewed are saying the same thing.
    This is the scientists warning about the easing of lockdown restrictions.

    I pointed out that this shows the bbbc only gives us one side of the argument (this one being about lockdown)

    If they only interviewed scientists who said ending the lockdown would be a good thing it would also be biased and wrong.

    In the olden days it was normal to get both sides of the argument but not now, as the bbbc presenter let slip (about a week ago)

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  49. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Just seen the figures on the tv.

    One person out of 60 million (70 million – 80 million anybody) has died in the last 24 hours with some link to covid.

    I know the figures change and you can’t just use one day’s number but we are now regularly getting single digit numbers.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      EG, UK? Officially as good as 70 million. 69.something according to ONS. Unofficially, my best guess is 75-78 million but saying 80 million would not be an offence against rounding up.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      1 person has died? Sounds like we are being swamped by a combined Third, Fourth and Fifth wave at the same time. Are there any old commies on the SAGE committee who can confirm this? Any ‘scientists’ at Imperial College London who’ve been on the ‘Excel for Dummies’ course and can now model and advise Boris?

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  50. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #4 – have the Labour Party instructed the BBC on this

    This being the escape from never ending Lockdown on June 21. I can imagine Der Starmer, desperate to land a blow, any blow, on the PM and the Government being quite keen to dredge up any and every scientist willing to say that it would be unsafe to end Lockdown on 21 June. You can already get a feel for the way the wind is blowing by scary stories from the NHS and it is not even October – yet.

    The BBC do seem fairly compliant on this. It has been debated on most news programmes on R4 last week (although I cannot speak for PM as I have stopped listening; Carolyn Quinn killed it for me) and was the lead item with Jonny Disjointed on TWatO today. It was in the mix on the bits of TOADY that I listened to with the same contributor, a Dr or Prof Ravi Gupta (hope I got the name right) providing the panic. He wants the end of Lockdown delayed for several weeks. That is when the NHS can occupy the BBC R4 airwaves to say “We cannot cope.” and insist on an immediate new Lockdown for winter 2021/2022.

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