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Not on the BBC, but another platform that stifles debate.
The 2 minute video sums things up nicely.
*** Some Anglo Saxon language ***
Catchup links to latest posts on the previous thread
– page 3 started 1pm Tuesday
mentioned BBC stories like
– Lin-Manuel Miranda has apologised for a lack of Afro-Latino actors in the lead roles for his new film musical In The Heights.
– BBC journalist Nick Watt was shouted at in the street
well libmob did plenty of thumbs ups to actual milshaking attacks.
Police said \\a second man has been identified and is being “actively sought”.//
– Kooparberg Cider and other brands kowtowing to the Bookburning mob against GBnews
– page 2 started 4:30pm Monday
– BBC had a weirdly directed investigation into Bashir
so they could vindicate themselves
‘No evidence’ Martin Bashir was rehired by BBC in cover-up over Princess Diana interview’
‘recruiters didn’t know about the Diana subterfuge’
em #1 It is still bizarre to hire him as head of religion
#2 to have kept the Diana subterfuge covered up etc.
“Anglo Saxon language”
Ha, I only just noticed that tweet begins the Mexican equivalent of “Go F yourself”
Sorry to start with an OT, but this sums up U.K. Media.
It’s an email alert from the Fail.
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BREAKING: Israeli warplanes launch first airstrikes in Gaza since ceasefire
Huge explosions rock Gaza as Israeli warplanes launch first airstrikes since ceasefire ended 11-days of clashes with Hamas – after firebomb balloons were earlier aimed at Jewish targets
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Balloons with incendiaries designed to maim or kill are not ‘aimed’. If Hamas leadership Chlorine gassed themselves and a thousand school kids given a Chemistry outing at the border because the wind changed, JezBo and colleagues would find a way to frame this as an Israeli war crime.
BBC to match (see what I did there?)
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It is the first major flare-up (see what they did there?) since the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in May.
Israel strikes in Gaza after arson attacks.
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Eh, some dumpster fires or what?
Let’s click the link ‘after’ the tuck-away…
“Israel strikes in Gaza after arson balloons launched”
So, it changed already? And these balloons went up, but….
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-57492745
“Israel strikes in Gaza after fire balloons launched”
Yet another change.
JezBo must be proud of Rushdi Abu Alouf, BBC News, Gaza City
“The recent air raids lasted for only 10 minutes, but they were enough to remind the city’s residents, who are trying to recover from the aftermath of the recent fighting, that the ceasefire is fragile”
Yes, especially when broken by most not peaceful characters in amongst the resident population.
The Moaning Emole in complement….
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Israel strikes in Gaza after arson balloon launched
Israel has launched air strikes against Hamas targets in the Gaza Strip in retaliation for incendiary balloons fired from the territory. It’s the first major flare-up since a ceasefire – which ended 11 days of fighting between both sides – came into effect on 21 May. Explosions were heard in Gaza City in the early hours of Wednesday though it’s not clear whether anyone was injured. According to the Israeli fire service, several balloons were sent from Gaza causing at least 20 fires in fields. Israel Defense Forces said it was “prepared for all scenarios, including the resumption of hostilities, in the face of continued terror acts from the Gaza Strip”. Meanwhile a Hamas spokesman said Palestinians would continue to pursue their “brave resistance and defend their rights and sacred sites” in Jerusalem.
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Meanwhile the brave BBC ends with a brave anonymous statement.
Quite how you defend sacred sites by launching indiscriminate attacks is unclear.
And then… Twitter…
Comments mixed.
BBC aims achieved.
And who heads BBC editorial there?
https://camera-uk.org/2021/06/15/sixteen-years-of-the-bbc-middle-east-editors-narratives/?
The were peaceful balloons filled with firecrackers
Just about sums it, up Israeli warplanes…………Jewish Targets
The mail reports that the swamp – politicians and journalists – is reacting heavily to the sight of one of its ‘own – a BBC Newsnight journo – being on the receiving end in Whitehall on Monday .
Well – reap and sow comes to mind . Just recall the treatment Cummings got for days – days – at his home …. Yet a bit of a street encounter is condemned by the PM and Home Secretary –
These journos have lied and pumped out propaganda over issues such as immigration – politics – environment – Brexit – covid – woke -without consequences – at most the daily comments on this site .
You can imagine the reaction of the swamp . They’ll see themselves as even more important – even more ‘right ‘ in pumping out the woke poison .
And yes – I know the counter argument – but the BBC has stoked up hatred for it by doing what is doing – and sooner or later that view becomes real …
And what about what they did to Cliff Richard. Yes the crowd shouldn’t have chased the Beboid, but the BBC themselves set the example that they followed.
I should add – when I refered to Cummings above – that the baying mob were journalists . TR could testify to this too ..
.. but anyone who s doorstepped of accosted in the street should be entitled to respond in kind …
… as soon as these ‘better than us ‘ type get stick they cry about vacuous ‘press freedom ‘- when we know there isn’t any unless it is ‘approved thought ‘
Happened to Mr Rees-Mogg too, and they terrorised his children.
Nasty people, the left, they’re the have-nots, failures and dross most normal citizens have to put up with – and mainly pay for.
So many leftie Conservatives around for my liking, the minority parties don’t count!
Journalists are an amazing breed of people…
For nearly a year there have been numerous anti-lockdown demonstrations in the heart of London, involving hundreds of thousands of people. We’ve hardly been mentioned.
I was at Trafalgar Square when the police, without any prior warning, suddenly baton charged a completely peaceful protest, scattering the crowd and knocking an elderly lady to the ground in the process. Not a bloody whisper.
During the spring and early summer it’s been estimated that up to a million have taken to the streets, but if you’d been reading the rags or watching the news, you’d have been none the wiser.
A few weeks ago tens of thousands were outside the Beeb’s head office at Oxford Circus. We were asking why the BBC were ignoring our protests while promoting others. Never mentioned…
Now suddenly, one of their own receives some abuse. He was chased and he was sworn at. It looks bad, it’s not nice and I don’t condone it.
But…
He was not hurt and he was never in danger. He had gone over to say hullo to whom he thought were semi-respectable GM News people, but – horrors! – they were from deplorable Resistance GB, so he beat a retreat.
These creatures of the Swamp, are they a rodents of unusual size?
Many comments spring to mind.
At least he was there.
I would guess that there will be a lot angry mothers about this morning having read that little Snowflake’s bleat.
Sue the daughter ? Or should that be the name?
But how long will he still be there? Until the next babymuvva comes along?
Dear me.
A mental disorder is now an identity, like being queer or black or trans. The compartmentalisation continues apace. This also sets a comfortable foundation for the puritanical Stonewall types to champion pedophiles as the next protected ‘outrage’ group. It is a very cleverly-constructed venn diagram which evolves slowly and deliberately, with everybody outside the interlocking circles branded a dangerous bigot who must be silenced.
Here’s a prediction: given a long-enough timeline, Savile will not only be forgiven for his monstrous crimes against children, but platformed by the very same organisation who protected him for decades. They’re just waiting for enough of the diagram to be completed.
“UK warned it is unprepared for climate chaos”
Al Beeb’s chief “scientist” is trying to scare us again. He should go to China and teach the people there where it would make an effective difference.
‘Senna the soothsayer’ – a.k.a Roger Harrabin was on Toady this morning doing his ‘Woe, woe and thrice woe’ act over the CCC’s latest big,big,big report about how unprepared we are for hot weather that is going to become the ‘norm’.
Seem to remember this from about 25 years ago, however, Justin managed to get one good question in. “How certain are the CCC about the findings in the report ?’
Harrabin totally ignored the question and continued his monologue until his mike time was used up.
That ‘non-answer’ showed that he had not read or understood the report as it was big,big,big but had chosen to take whatever the worst case is as Gospel, because that is what the BBC and Greenpeace and FoE and the Government ‘nudge’ unit want him to do.
Questions ? – I don’t need no stinkin’ questions – just obey.
taffman
Our Western World leaders need to completely drain the swamp of the present Communist control freaks that have managed to position themselves as government “scientists/experts” and start listening to people with expertise who have no politcal axe to grind. Or maybe we the voters need to wake up and realise that we are being lead by the nose like animals to the slaughterhouse.
Communists who will cost the poor of Britain a lot of money to pay for carbon emissions that are of a negligible output from the UK.
The only chaos happening is that the fraudsters don’t know which direction Climate Change is changing – Warming or getting colder.
They cant afford to get it wrong like the other previous frauds.
1, The planet is deluged with acid rain, all the forests are dying. Not so said the satellite data – its getting greener
2. The Ozone layer is eroding because of manmade fossils fuels and fridges – Nope the Ozone layers are like any atmosphere layer – it moves around
3. The planet is going towards an ice age because of manmade .. Nope.
4. The planet is going to heat up, AGW. Nope . Temperatures are stable within experimental uncertainty. Forests are dying, burning and its all because of Trump and coal and fossil fuels. Ban fossil fuels and cancel Trump.
5. The Climate is changing, but we cant measure it. But it must, therefore something is wrong. Ban coal, gas, petroleum, and plastics, in case some thing is going wrong but we dont know what. For insurance Lock up CO2.
That should hopefully cause severe economic dislocation to make people call on socialists to rescue the planet from Capitalism.
Since the fall of their beloved USSR, socialists/communists are getting increasingly desperate.
I occasionally visit this site because I am depressed with the obvious and smug bias I see in the bbc re brexit etc.
But I don’t think climate or environmental issues are part of some kind of bbc conspiracy, and I am pretty certain you are wrong in relation to at least some of these claims.
I know that acid rain was a real problem in the 80s, due to sulphur omitted from coal-fired power stations. And if I remember correctly Thatcher recognised the issue.
“Covid vaccine to be required for England care home staff”
Horse and stable door comes to mind?
Disgusting move by an out of control government with a supine opposition and media waving it through.
This is the thin end of a very long and nasty wedge – first it will be care home staff, then it will be “front line” NHS staff, then it will be all other NHS staff and so it goes.
As a great man once said, “an appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping that it will eat him last”.
I am staggered and saddened at the way the British public is letting these psychopaths get away with this nonsense.
Posting this without clicking as these crimes appear left vague by the BBC.
Let’s see…
When the Mirror manages more complete ‘journalism’…
A barbaric execution following barbaric torture in a barbaric country, home to a barbaric religion.
One can’t help wondering what the photo was that so offended the delicate sensitivities of the torturers in the security services.
Did it show a woman’s bare ankle? Her hair? Did it object to a journalist being murdered and chopped up in a Saudi consulate? Or, horror of horrors, did it show a woman driving a car?
Heinous crimes indeed.
What I find most surprising is the amount of left wing western feminists who instantly jump to the defence of Islam – the religion which believes in keeping women powerless and shackled.
I suppose it’s a case of ‘any enemy of the west is a friend of mine’.
Londoner
I don’t find that at all surprising. Speaking as as an erstwhile devout Marxist, I will say, in hindsight, that people of a Leftist persuasion are, how can I put this, not quite the best guide to common sense.
I am told that Socialism is not at all the same thing as Communism. The problem with THAT argument is that Socialists NEVER know when to stop pushing.
They are just useful idiots for the intolerant Commies.
I also no longer identify myself as a lefty, because unlike some of them I’m capable of nuanced thought. Same reason I don’t identify as any particular-wing.
My thought on this subject for a long time – especially when seeing so-called liberals trying to defend sharia being applied in the UK – has been to wonder why they think muslim women should not be protected by the same uk law as other women in this country.
Then whilst on a flight I read an account of a Muslim woman saying exactly this, and that journalists should not assume that the male ‘leaders’ of these communities necessarily spoke for them.
Lefties in general, like anyone, can fail to think rationally. But the bbc should always think clearly about this.
This gave me a giggle!
The Morning Star neatly sums up the craziness of the left with these two headlines featured side by side on their home page.
1. Met Police still ‘misusing’ Covid powers against protesters, campaigners say.
2. Police criticised for failing to respond to attack on BBC journalist by anti-lockdown protesters.
Now come on chaps, what do you really want hey?
Or are some protesters more equal then others?
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Oh what I would give for a TRULY independent press.
It would surely comprise 50 pages on some days and a one page apology to readers for finding nothing worthwhile to report the next day.
However, that intrepid reporter Phil Space manages to find gossip to fill a set number of pages every single day to keep us all entertained and brain damaged. The BBC should be a counter to all of this crap but they are a willing partner swimming in the same swamp.
The BBC had a spokesman for the false president on `toady this morning to talk about the meeting with Putin . His name is Jon Sopel .
It’s curious that he shares a name with the BBC Washington correspondent.
Anyway mr Sopel reported that there is to be no joint press conference between the 2.
How could there be? A ga ga false president and the head of the KGB> – it would be a slaughter .
But can you imagine the meeting between the two ? Putin will open the file and show Biden the dirt he has on his party and family .
The Putin will tell him what to do and what Russia wants …and Biden will nod .
One thing is absolutely certain : there is no way Biden will be allowed to sit and discuss anything with Putin on his own.
And just imagine if it were Harris dealing with Putin. It all brings the stark reality of the current USA government into light. Absolutely unfit for purpose.
JohnC
The politicians are merely tools of the deep state to convince us we have a choice.
Genuine question. Who is the deep state??
“My fellow.. umm.. Armenians. I met with Mr. Tutin…umm…umm… whatever.
And umm… I told Stutin. Hah! We were brought up as coal miners, well we weren’t… MY grandfather was a coal miner… well he wasn’t… he was a MINING engineer… my father was a salesPERSON. Whatever.
So I told.. umm… umm… the leader of Prussia. I told him.. umm… if I was eighty years younger I.. um..I WOULD TAKE HIM BEHIND THE BICYCLE SHED… um… umm… I would show him my hairy legs. The hairs go white in the sun.
I.. um… (lowers voice).. I umm.. shouldn’t say this. (raises voice) I will get in trouble!
Thank you!”
Putin replies:
“Мужчина идиот”
Translator: “The two presidents had meaningful discussions. Thank you!”
Jim
You hit it right . Funny that there are no ‘impersonators ‘ around now – not approved thought i guess
I wondered if SNL carried on mocking the President but it appears they stopped immediately after Biden got elected.
Jim Carry tried during the election but it seems it wasn’t popular with the crowd who laughed and applauded any joke against Trump – no matter how blatant and unfunny it was.
At least it serves to demonstrate what outrageous hypocrites they are. And any impression now would have to reference his gaffs and confusion which they can’t do because even they realise just how unfit he is to be president. It would be very bad taste, even for them.
Of course there is nothing new in all this, George W. Bush was endlessly portrayed as being of sub-monkey intelligence whereas if Obama sneezed it somehow showed great oratorial skills!
Where we are on new ground though is that it must be obvious to anyone but the wilfully blind that Biden is a corrupt, gaga liar and Harris is a liar and totally incompetent and not even wanted by her own party.
The US media and the BBC can pretend that this isn’t so but they can’t fool America’s enemies.
An America that appears to be strong will never have to fight as that would be too risky. An America that appears to be weak, fully up to quota on trans-sexuals, queers, unicorns and pregnant women in its armed forces, must be seen as an easy target. Add to that a ‘commander-in-chief’ like Biden and the US must look like a walk-over.
But Jim – bush was sub monkey – watch the footage of him being told about the twin towers whilst at a school – some clown put a timer on the footage to see how long the blank look lasted .
But he passed the ‘beer buddy ‘ test
Jim, I wonder if Dead Ringers will do ‘China Joe’?
Have to wait for the next series to find out.
If there is a next series.
“And I said to Vladimir, come on man, as my old dad – did I tell you he was a working man and a Catholic? He said to me back in Scranton Pennsylvania in 1950, son, see those two guys kissing on a street corner, Joe, they’re just in love”
Jim – As an ardent fact-checker, I ran the Russian “Мужчина идиот” through Google Translate.
It means: “The man is an idiot”.
This is factually correct (though somewhat mild) so it can be allowed to stay uncensored.
I have noticed that when he is rambling away, Sleepy Joe often says “I’ll get in trouble.”
No other president has ever said this, for the very good reason that the president is the boss. No-one talks down to him or tells him what to do. And then there was Biden…
It’s obvious he is a puppet, given very short rein, and being told what to say. We have seen his briefing notes for the simplest things. He simply cannot think. He can barely read out the points written for him. What an absolute travesty. There was a coup in America, and it is plain to see.
TOADY Watch #1 – moving swiftly on … keeping up with the climate … and moving swiftly on
If you thought Global Warming and the word anthropogenic was difficult enough to believe and get your head around, those oh so certain scientists may have moved the goalposts, yet again. Apparently, it is not just Global Warming and Climate Change that we should worry about and if you are worrying about a Climate Emergency or Climate Extinction, forget it. They are just so out of date. So yesterday.
The new fear on the horizon is Climate Chaos. The scientists have agreed. Probably. Possibly. Or not. All 9.7% or 9.8% of them. Or should it be 00.000000000000000000000000000000000000098% of scientists say there will be climate chaos and Roger the Horror-to-be will tell you all about it on the BBC. Meanwhile, moving swiftly on …
John Sopel does his best to warm up the planet with CO2 all on his own. USA to UK, UK to Geneva … he’s obviously a big fan of Beijing Biden, trailing the US President around the world.
I expect before long the BBC or some other anarchist Marxist
organization will come out and say it’s racist to force care
or NHS workers to have compulsory vaccination.
I don’t care if it’s fundamentalist Muslim’s, ultra orthodox
Jews, fanatical Christians or Hindus. Adherents to any
other religion or cult who believe it’s their god’s will if they
catch the Chinese virus ,spread or die from it, so be it.
I don’t want any of these ignoramuses coming near me or
my family or friends if we need hospital or care home
treatment.
To be honest I have lost all “faith ” in our government after
making numerous mistakes , compounding it all by
allowing for more than two weeks allowing flights from the
Indian sub continent to bring in the Indian strain of the virus.
An absolute shambles.
I agree that it is an absolute shambles. Probably for different reasons than yours.
But are you saying that you think it’s ok to force someone to have medical treatment that they don’t need just so they can keep their 10 quid an hour job?
‘…compounding it all by allowing for more than two weeks allowing flights from the Indian sub continent to bring in the Indian strain of the virus‘ – absolutely correct.
But.. you comment on vax refusniks ‘I don’t want any of these ignoramuses coming near me or my family or friends if we need hospital or care home treatment‘
Assuming you trust the jab implicitly (which you obviously do judging by your distain for those who do not) and you’ve all – family or friends – presumably had all the jabs – then what precisely is your fear?
I’m genuinely interested to know and understand?
I get bored with all the covid-themed headlines but there’s this from the Telegraph this morning: ‘No green light to start vaccinating children… until scientists obtain more data on the risks‘
I come from a generation who saw friends contract poliomylitis .
Others being very ill with measles etc etc. Then in the fifties
we were VACCINATED against these illnesses .
When I was older I learnt about somebody called Edward Jenner
who discovered vaccination in the late 18th century. Being
vaccinated has saved millions upon millions of lives. Having
the vaccination for Covid 19 SAVES LIVES !!
Unless their are medical reasons for one not to have it.
In my opinion it’s a no brainer. And for certain I don’t
want to be treated in a care home or hospital by anybody
who has not had the vaccination.
Good points – vaccination for serious illnesses are indeed a wonder of modern science.
But I’m still not clear why you would want to express fear of contact with the covid unvaccinated?
By the way, I claim no expert knowledge of their efficacy and am broadly agnostic about taking one myself.
Is it really so transgressively and dangerously libertarian of me to not choose to shun those who might choose not to?
This is not a conventional vaccine! This does however protect you from becoming seriously ill. I do understand the argument with care homes. And this is an area, despite Himmler Hancock’s hopeless protestations, that the government has failed miserably. It’s a tricky one…
Every vaccine we’ve ever used has undergone many years of rigorous testing. This hasn’t. I completely understand why, but we still won’t know of any long term impact for about a decade.
It’s been suggested that the former boxer, Marvin Hagler, died after “complications” with the vaccine. And we’re still none the wiser regarding the young footballer the other day. Don’t expect the media to tell us the truth…that’s one thing I’m certain about. There are numerous concerns about pregnant women. These are very early days. It’s just far too simplistic to say “it’s a no brainer.”
There is one other thing I’m absolutely certain of. Unless there are serious health reasons…
No child should take this experimental vaccine.
Vaccination does save lives, Foscari, but it does need to be administered wisely. All medications and all vaccines carry a risk. I have some experience of this.
The risk from vaccines and the risk from medications are vanishngly small. They need to be. Killing or curing is not an option in the modern world. They do need to be administered wisely.
Home remedies are good too, but in passing on knowledge to others I always say to the recipient: ” Please check this with your medical practice first, speak to the Practice Nurse who will if necessary refer you to your GP.”
Age and quality of life is another factor to be taken into account when considering vaccination. For example, it didn’t do Captain Tom any good. If a GP told me that I have cancer and that surgery is recommended, I would first ask to check whether the cancer has spread elsewhere in my body. If an elderly patient is riddled with cancer, lots of hanging around in hospitals for surgery & recovery, chemo and recovery and maybe radio-therapy as well might not add to their quality of life – may actually deprive them of some life – in their final months or years in this life.
Early on the Pandemic we heard the story of a young lady who heard somewhere that garlic stimulated the human immune system. Which is quite correct. She went out and bought raw garlic from her supermarket, several pounds I recall, and ate the lot. She ended up in A&E with burns to her oesophagus and upper intestine.
On another Forum I rub shoulders with all sorts of whackos and nut jobs, who consider that Covid vaccination is some sort of conspiracy between Bill Gates and/or George Soros to kill off the world and I remind them there of – in effect – the first paragraph of my reply to you. Vaccines work but like medications, they carry a risk.
I would be cautious about vaccinating children under the age of eighteen. I was given a list recently of vaccines now administered to children and was horrified at how long it is. Plugging children full of vaccines may not do their health much good if decades later they encounter something that reacts with the residual vaccine and does something nasty to them. All humans vary slightly in their physiology. We are all different but we are all the same.
In the Pandemic I have had the verse from Psalm 139, verse 14 regularly coming to my mind: ‘I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.’
The Psalmist – King David – is absolutely right.
I am not an “anti vaxxer”. I have (somewhat reluctantly) had both doses of the Oxford AZ potion and, to date, suffered no ill effects.
That was my choice – albeit had it been a free choice in a fair contest between the merits of its efficacy versus the risk of the unknown (rather than state coercion that if I didn’t do it I would not get my life back) I would probably have declined.
My point wasn’t about whether you should or shouldn’t have it – anyone is free to exercise his own choice.
My point was about citizens of this country being forced to get vaccinated or lose their job – surely you must see mandatory medical treatment that is unwanted and/or not needed as an affront to personal liberty and morally wrong?
AsISeeIt asks the question that nobody in the media ever asks and none of the people I ever ask can answer. If you’ve had your vaccinations what does it matter to you whether I have not?
I am genuinely mystified as to why you wouldn’t want “any of these ignoramuses” to come near you or your family or friends but given your obvious disdain for those individuals who’s opinions on the subject differ from yours, I’m sure they’d be more than happy to give you a wide berth.
Thanks Foscari. As far as I understood from the start, these covid vaccines were never promising that you wouldn’t catch covid, but it would be milder than otherwise.
People in care homes can be very frail and some care homes can be for children who have extreme difficulties with life. Who would wish to add to this by bringing covid into their homes. For some covid will mean finishing people off sooner than otherwise, even if they have been vaccinated.
And imagine a care home where only half the staff are vaccinated. Even some of the vaccinated are still to I’ll to work, but those who haven’t had the vacc are now definitely too I’ll to work. Where are the surplus carers the home managers can access at the drop off hat?
The first medical reason not to have it is that it has not been properly tested. That alone ought to have been enough to delay the whole vaccination programme.
Flatpack Vietnam
Unusually, for a commercial retail company, Ikea gets two mentions on today’s national newspaper frontpages with its involvement in two different stories.
I don’t know what your experience of the mega Swedish furniture outlet will have been but my attitude is somewhat equivocal. Yes, the big warehouse store with the Swedish meatball cafe, the aspirational catalogue and the product range with names at once weird yet oddly familiar like – Björn Borg or Agnetha, Anni-Frid, Benny and Björn (again) is, apparently, beloved of trendy young Gen ‘Y’ers wanting to furnish their first homes in some standardised minimalist neutral euro chic – on a tight budget.
However, many years ago I provoked the ire and distain of Mrs AsISeeIt, as I not only expressed some reluctance to spend an entire Saturday afternoon within its cavernous portals but I unnecessarily expanded on my scepticism.
I pointed to the attendent risk of once entered into the windowless Scandinavian shopping maze, to only re-emerge into the daylight some hours later befuddled by the product range, finding the precise size shape specification and choice of colourway was temporarily out of stock and having the feeling one had just been conned into walking a half marathon clutching nothing as reward but a consolation set of coloured teatowls – fair comment you may think – but then as is my way I over-egged my case as I likened my experience of the popular generally consumer-approved retailer to Flatpack Vietnam.
But that’s old news. The Daily Telegraph this morning informs us: ‘GB News faces advertising boycott‘ – and Ikea is among the list of corporates apparently susceptible to pressure from ‘political activists‘ who are alarmed and distressed at the advent of some vaguely right-of-centre news outlet and – more to the point I’m guessing – that people might tune in.
We note here a headline from the Guardian: ‘Ex-advisor: Tories are inflaming cuture war‘ – to employ a dangerous analogy we observe the Left currently have an attitude perhaps similar to that of Allies in early 1945. They are winning on all fronts and clearly nothing but unconditional surrender will do – and they really can’t understand why their opponents keep fighting. Just give up they say.
I think it is worth listing all the brands named by the Telegraph as running shy of advertising on GB News: ‘Kopparberg, the Swedish cider maker, was joined by Grolsch…‘ – that’s a Dutch brewer who seem to have flipped their ceramic bootle top over their association with some soft-right opinion. ‘…Ikea, the Open University and Nivea‘
Nivea is a German brand and we know what the OU is. Their vintage TV programming is fondly remembered as having production values akin to GB New’s opening night of technical glitches.
So Ikea is presumably concerned at some supposed tarnishing of its reputation that might come from its name being linked with the dangerous right-wing political actor and demagogic populist Andrew Neil, and small wonder, it currently has some bad publicity to deal with – as detailed in the FT:
‘Ikea’s French chief organised spy ring‘ – gosh and sacre bleu! – this story concerns what one might term management on staff espionage: ‘A Versailles court has ordered the biggest furniture seller to pay Euros1m in fines and convicted its chief in the country of organising a spying operation that targed staff and job applicants‘ – wow, what was Ikea thinking and what happened to all those fabulous EU employee protections we hear so much of?
IKEA is probably some sort of metaphor of globalist living.
The trick with them is to shop without female companions and to realise that the ‘yellow brick road’ isn’t mandatory!
“MPs to vote on delaying England’s lockdown easing by four weeks”
Is it because Bo Jo is waiting for all of Europe to be opened first ?
We were first with the vaccines but last to reap the benefits.
How long has he got?
MPs are all waged while many in the UK are bankrupt.
I saw on the last thread that the nocturnal troll was about . I suppose people enjoy engaging but that troll never directly talks about its BBC – and for that reason i would delete it .
But i know i have no support for this so will remain neutral … for now …
FedUp2, I would certainly allow the troll to stay, the dogmatic and myopic cut-n-paste segments the troll spews forth underline exactly why sites such as this are essential.
Digg – yeah – i know – its one of those guilty pleasures knowing that every time real blighty achieves something the snowflakes melt into despond and resume their ‘sneer’ mode .
The signing of any trade agreement with Austrialia – recently – is such an example – and pointed given the way the Uk dumped trade with Aus to join the franco german alliance …
Fedup2
I would leave maxincony where he is . He is our ‘Aunt Sally’ in a coconut shy . He keeps us entertained in the quiet hours of the night shift.
What he doesn’t realise is that his posts are counterproductive to Al Beeb and its efforts to boost licence fee subs. and viewing figures .
If I was his line manager at Al Beeb, I would have let him go a long time ago. What say you Tim Davie ?
Maxincony is harmless, which is probably an insult.
TOADY Watch #2 – pushing the climate chaos big time today
After some vox pops from Local authorties who are creating CO2 building river flood defences (instead of cleaning and dredging rivers) and planting lots of trees which they believe make everything neutral, Rick Nobinson interviews some Peer (sorry name unmemorable) who has an act like she should be on the end of a Pier.
This comedienne from the House of Lords has guaranteed the UK wonderful summers like the one in 2018 by 2050, absolutely definite about that, and UK winters will be like .. er … well, winters. That’s some forecast!
This good(?) lady or Lady was followed by a hyperventilating scientist (sorry, her name was also unmemorable) who gabbled away at a Spike Milligan-like 300 words a minute. I hit the off-switch. Just couldn’t take any more.
It’s easy to understand…
Talk meaningless green claptrap and the MSM will run with it all day long.
Talk common-sense and get cancelled.
Yeah, digg, and not just cancelled by the MSM. I know what it’s like to get some on-line ire. Writing that I am reminded of a former colleague of colour who used to use the ire word but she pronounced it ‘ireee!’ for some added ….. ire and emphasis.
9am R4 Covid deaths,
“The global death toll has reached a grim milestone”
2021 has already had more deaths than in the whole of 2020
– outdoor swimming, newspapers say the UK has the worst bathing sites in Europe?
.. why this is not the case.
– care homes : how good was the government’s ‘ring of protection’ around care homes during the first wave – and the second?
guest Steven Johnson
his book ‘Extra Life: A Short History of Living Longer.’
9:30am R4 Talk : Jak Beula’s organisation is working to erect more to honour people of colour.
Dr Jak Beula is the founder and CEO of Nubian Jak, an African and Caribbean community organisation
#ConstantAgendaPushing
He’s installed 60 black-plaques, no worries in principle as long as it’s not inverted racism favouring one skin colour over another.
He invented a board game Nubian Jak
about black historical figures
unfortunately it seems he has made the mistake Simon Webb highlights of saying everyone connected to North Africa is black
eg claiming Emperor Septimius was black
just cos he was born in Leptis Magna (present day Al-Khums, Libya)
His talk seems to have a number of questionable narratives, eg claiming that the NHS nearly fell apart at the beginning but was saved by Afro-Caribbeans
Prog ends “Next week Climate Change
Tamsin Ellis describes her journey to climate activism”
#ConstantAgendaPushing
If proof were ever required that the woke don’t do irony but will respond with craven speed to every activist pressure, each and every company that withdraws its advertising from GB News for ‘political’ reasons simply justifies the existence and the need for GB News.
I hope people are taking note of those companies and boycotting them.
Consumer Power!
PMQ s Wednesday should be a pop corn job on Wednesday .
It’s almost a re balancing of the government v speaker wars of Bercow days – with Hoyle as victim. But with an 80 majority the government should be kicking the commons around and getting populist policies through – instead we’ve got nut nut feminism …and woke crap
I think the BBC has an entirely false impression of itself, and is afraid to ask for an impartial opinion in case they get the wrong answer.
Freud would have had a field day with them.
I think they are so arrogant and so wrapped up in their groupthink bubble, the concept that they can possibly be wrong in all of this never enters their heads.
They actually believe that anyone who does not agree with their agenda is an ignorant pleb. They refuse to even contemplate what bigots they are.
To be ‘chased’, doesn’t someone have to be running after him ?.
Looks like a snowflake out of his comfort zone to me.
As usual, Sky Aus says what our rotten, craven, biased BBC daren’t.
‘Hard to imagine Putin ‘quivering in his boots’ when he meets Joe Biden’
I would love to see how many people Biden takes into the meetings with him compared to Putin.
They will never let us know that.
– Doctor
– Nurse
– Minders
– Psychiatrist
– Stretcher bearer (x2)
– Prompters
– Teleprompter prompter
– Ear-piece whisperer
– Wife Jill
– Makeup person
– Funeral director
– Embalmer
– Mortician
– Advisors
– Aides
– Script writers
– Body double in case of emergency
– Son Hunter to cash in on any lucrative deals
– Hunter’s drug dealer
etc etc…
Leader of The Free World.
Macho Man
GBnews tweeted about the sound
“Our team has been working hard to get our audio right.
We’ve made a number of improvements to the sound overnight
– let us know if it’s made a difference in your home.
We’re small, new and building as we go.”
So many lefty Twitter accounts have exposed themselves as “bookburners”
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/shame-on-the-gb-news-boycotters
Konstantin Kisin answers their trolling
I think it’s great that @IKEAUKSupport
have stopped advertising with the evil @GBNEWS
They can now concentrate on opening more stores in Saudi Arabia.
then shows pic of store opening in the repressive state
Andrew Neil tweets
“Well last night at 8pm
my show out-rated Sky News and BBC News Channel *combined* Next question.”
Neil tweets about Ikea
IKEA has decided to boycott GB News because of our alleged values.
Here are IKEA’s values
— a French CEO who is a criminal with a two year suspended jail sentence for spying on staff.
Hypocrisy is de rigueur these days dontcha know.
Government already laying down the failure to open up the country in July by claiming a shortage of vaccines …. I think people will disconnect from these diktats – which will be countered by more ‘project fear ‘ crap involving sobbing nurses – cameras in ‘ overwhelmed ‘ hospitals and similar propaganda .
People are having enough now …
Yesterday the EU published its trade figures for the first four months of this year. In its report, the EU’s statistics agency highlighted the following:-
“In the first four months of 2021, following the end of the transition period, in particular EU imports from the United Kingdom dropped significantly (by -27.1%).”
(Official Eurostat report 15 Jun 2021)
This drop was more than for any other country in the EU’s top 10 suppliers, by a long way.
Why?
The EU’s punitive behaviour towards the United Kingdom
Below are three basic facts which might help to explain the numbers.
1. The UK has adopted a light touch to border controls for EU products entering the UK. The EU has done the precise opposite to UK products entering the EU.
2. The UK has unilaterally allowed EU firms ‘equivalence’ to operate in financial services in the UK. The EU has done the opposite, actively trying to prevent City firms from operating in the EU.
3. The UK has unilaterally relaxed the EU’s imposed customs controls on GB products entering Northern Ireland, to preserve peace and maintain the territorial integrity of the United Kingdom. The EU is now taking the UK to the EU court for this.
…
It really is time to say enough is enough, ditch the N.I. Protocol, and go WTO
I imagine that Russia has such a positive balance of trade with the EU because it sell so much gas to Germany. Maybe the Germans realise you cannot run a modern economy on windmills, whatever BoJo thinks.
When the swamp gets upset plod can move very quickly – man charged over Whitehall BBC confrontation – bet they wish they could get an extra 3 months for ‘racially aggravated ‘….
I bet the BBC troll is a hero now – and ready to earn big bucks recounting his ‘ordeal’…..
I expect he now has PTSD.
Not much doubt what gets you into the BBC.
But what W1A does once in seems to leave an embedded mark.
https://order-order.com/2021/06/16/exclusive-former-bbc-executive-behind-gb-news-ad-boycott-campaign/?
Here’s a surprise … NOT
It’s Louise Wikström
\\ The website BoycottGBNews.org, which has spent the last 24 hours celebrating various corporate boycotts, says it is a “campaigning website from Ripples”.
A quick search of Companies House shows Ripples Campaigning was co-founded, and is run, by Louise Wikstrom.
Louise, who appears to be their only employee, was a senior content producer at BBC Worldwide for three years. //
That from her Facebook page
which also has a graphic
which says that people should not conform
“Fall in love
.. not in line”
As well as being a director of Ripples
she’s a director of CROWDWAVE LTD
@CrowdwaveUK “Transforming digital campaigning”
Kemp House 152-160, City Road, London, England, EC1V 2NX
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/GiEQMqHnwcqWfXQCAyqa4vc3iyA/appointments
BLM has the same address
(That’s the earliest BLM biz in 2020. There was an earlier one but that dissolved in 2018)
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/search?q=%22Black+Lives+Matter%22
Dob – you beat me to it – one
Louise Wikstrom
An ex employee of the BBC seems to be at the centre of this attempt to diminish free unapproved speech – very BBC ….
And due much more detailed attention ….
Maybe the bbc can add her to the Matt, Justin, Rog roster to address the diversity?
Suggestion for Ms Michie: go to China and ask them why they didn’t stop their citizens from flying early last year … you know, to save on all those nasty air-miles … oh, and maybe stop the spread of their Chinese virus too.
Watching PMQs – it’s now heading for 1pm London time – and I wonder if the former investment banker – Ian Blackford – has finished reading out his question yet ?
By the sound of it mr Blackford will be shorting Croft futures …
I’ll do it for you:
“… an insult to the people of SKHOTLand! The heartless Tooweries! …”
No-one else does.
Local radio 1pm news
end of bulletin “And today we remember saint Jo Cox, who died 5 years ago
Here’s Speaker Hoyle’s TRIBUTE to her”
plays clip
Such reports might influence the by-election
“Such reports might influence the by-election.”
In which direction, though? They need to think about that.
Banana
Was the dead Labour MP a good constituency MP ? Or did it prefer the Human Rights Swamp gig ? She’s been dead a while so any emotions will have diminished and personal interest – as in government investment – might prove more of a positive impact – linked to the level of vaccinations of course ….
I don’t know how much of a swing is needed or whether there are players to split the left / far left vote ….
“The website BoycottGBNews.org, which has spent the last 24 hours celebrating various corporate boycotts, says it is a “campaigning website from Ripples”. A quick search of Companies House shows Ripples Campaigning was co-founded, and is run, by Louise Wikstrom. Louise, who appears to be their only employee, was a senior content producer at BBC Worldwide for three years.”
Watt shouter Martin Hockridg charged
with “threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour with the intention of causing harassment or distress.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57495831
is that a joke Stew – the Onion must be involved !!!
what a “woke” pathetic country we seem to be living in if true.
So now it’s clear for the world to see, what we here have always known: the intolerant Left, the Liberati, the Wokerati – not content with having a stranglehold on opinion across all broadcast media, as well as social media – cannot allow the existence of a single, undermanned news channel with a different outlook to theirs.
So first the BBC bullies try to deny it access to the news pool; then an ex-BBC employee mounts an advertising boycott; then ‘viewers’ flood Ofcom with complaints against the new channel, encouraged by the likes of Nick Robinson.
It’s very easy to turn the unthinking lib-mob against a target: just shout ‘racist’, or ‘far-right’, and the mindless lemmings will rush to the attack.
But be careful: if you suppress the reasonable, legitimate voice of the silent majority long enough, pressure and resentment will build up to explosive levels, and could lead to more (and more violent) scenes of enraged mobs chasing BBC ‘journalists’.
You will have only yourselves to blame. As Katie Hopkins once told some beeboids (I paraphrase from memory): YOU created me; YOU MADE this monster!
“remember Harrabin and his OU mate Dr Smith cooking up the climate change ’emergency”
– I don’t – but I don’t doubt that if there was extended orchestration behind the “climate emergency” that Harrabin had a hand in it…
– is it another 28Gate or were the perps more furtive and careful about exposure?
The pooling system is probably just Twitter. That is where the BBC get most of their news from.
Tabs, isn’t the ‘press pooling’ system where an event, where say Downing St. or Whitehall, restricts the number of journos, photoographers and TV crews. Those who are excluded then share the output of those allowed to attend.
Not BBC although his pinned tweet did feature a BBC presenter and people have posted some of his tweets on here but looks like @BurnsideNotTosh has gone! Not sure what’s happened but did notice JHB tweeting about having lunch with him then he’s gone?
https://twitter.com/BurnsideNotTosh
200 engineers ?
– that were doing nothing?
ah…. cheaper than a TUPE deal then.
If the union had any imagination they’d be looking at assisting in structuring a bid by the engineers to start an employee owned company .
I’m wondering if OVO’s customer base is large enough to trigger the extra environmental levies that the big electron retailers have to pay ?
I note today that 35 complaints against gb news have been sent to ofcom. This is obviously orchestrated. To complain to ofcom about Bbc you must first complain to bbc how does that work. So complaints about last nights programs don’t get to ofcom until sometime next year if it’s a bbc program disgusting!
R4 drama starts it’s about doctors at the start of the NHS
..one ex-soldier is complaining he has unnatural urges conflicting with his biological sex
.. very BBC
Earlier R4Today celebrated
Ivor Gurney gay WW1 poet
Loosely based on the Citadel by AJ Cronin apparently, Stew. I wonder if it was in Cronin’s book or is ‘very loosely added’ by the modern writers to get it onto BBC R4?
Ah it’s series 7
So they have taken the book and added a whole set of episodes after it finished so we have the gay character in pre WW2 rural Wales.
but not yet hordes of BAME magically injected into the past.
More radio4 #ConstantAgendaPushing
Ooh, gosh, it’s racially diverse as well!
Oh yes, we’ve all been there, inter-racial lesbian flings.
I had that Diane Abbott in the back of the cab once.
Oh, I didn’t know you drove a minibus.
R4 Arts show mention today they have Jason Reynolds
Dunno he might well be a great children’s writer
but yet again the liberal establishment choose a black writer writing about the black world
Did you spot it?
They are all standing on the white stripes!
Hey You and Yours make sure you use a black photo
otherwise people might accuse Radio4 of being too white
The R4 schedule today has 18 progs using faces , 5 use black faces
vs 11 white, but one of those is taking the mickey out of Boris/Trump
.. Also one Asian woman’s face appears on the two editions of the daily book
Somewhere i read that the summit between Biden and Putin was scheduled to last 5 hours. Oh, come on, the guy can’t stay awake and focused for 5 minutes.
Meanwhile the BBC have a body language expert (who used to be a reporter for the liberal NBC!) give her tuppence worth.
“Body language expert Mary Civiello… saw two leaders with a strong executive presence, authority and gravitas…”
Yeah, right, one can barely stand, walk or finish a sentence.
“Today, we want someone who will stand their ground and is tough but will also listen.” Civiello said. “That idea plays well to Biden on this world stage.”
Oh, pur-lease, BBC. Even my your standards this is a new level of biased crap.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-57246216
This ad boycott carry on is a bit funny.
Does it mean I should support and use the companies still advertising on GBN even though many are, let’s say, not very representative of the GB population.
EG
I think the viewing figures will dictate things rather than the go woke go broke rubbish refusing to advertise .
Personally im now going out of my way to watch even with the footy .
On the footy – the nationalism is out of hand on the BBC – weird really since the BBC only likes approved ‘ nations ‘ such as Scotland …
Back to GB News – takes a bit of getting used to allowing people time to speak their bit without the standard BBC cut off for anything ‘ unapproved ‘
On last night’s BBC local news I missed something
when they reported on a Hull kid dying in a stabbing
cos I was listening rather than looking at the screen
The audio contained no proper description of the perp they are looking for.
Now I look at the image I understand more
‘Detective Chief Inspector Alan Curtis said, “The man shown in these CCTV images is shown with a white hooded sweatshirt on, white trousers and trainers.’
Missed out the most useful part of the description to identify him there Alan.
Just imagine how much more reach he would have got for those like yourself who were just listening as they did something else if he said ‘Black man with white earbuds, white hooded sweatshirt, white trousers and white trainers’.
ITV local news : Boston a 14 year old who always carried a knife plead not guilty to the murder of a 12yo last year
.. descriptions & names are suppressed.
Now Abdu talks about Hull NHS being named a place of sanctuary
(Abdu also features in the NHSs own YouTube video…. #PRasNews)
story from 2 years ago when a Hull refugee raped a girl
What did Wilberforce have to do with sanctuary?