444 Responses to Midweek 15 February 2023

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  1. StewGreen says:
    February 17, 2023 at 9:10 pm

    Knowsley : I don’t watch MSM news
    cos it seems the more you watch it, the more disinformed you are
    cos they fill your head with waffle whilst omitting other stories
    So as I surfed past news I found even GBnews and TalkTV had the screen marked as “Migrant protest **riots**”

    I immediately dismissed it cos #1 it seemed like just pictures of a burning police van
    and #2 The kind of people who do those protests don’t set stuff on fire or start rioting.
    The earlier post that explained nothing much happened until antifa turned up at 8pm with their normal totalitarian chant “whose streets, our streets” as they’re intent on turfing anyone who is “not one of us” off “their patch” ..made sense

    I checked the licence plate of the van PO15 AEC and that gets to me a tweet showing it as a @MerseyPolice van in 2017 https://www.twitter.com/Kewrail_TMUK/status/840598404275269633
    and then this video
    The vid is not offensive, I guess it was falsely reported to hinder conversation
    It just shows black clad guys tooled up to destroy a van
    They aren’t with an anti migrant crowd egging them.
    Don’t know who the vandals are : antifa, agent provocateurs, state actors …dunno

    I do believe that police vans are taxed but don’t get MOTs

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  2. Fedup2 says:
    February 17, 2023 at 9:17 pm

    Mark steyn on YouTube as almost 7000 views an hour after broadcast – which is 7000 more than T Newton Dunn on Murdock TV it seems …..
    Mr Steyn speaks on BBC OFCON ( aka censorship central )
    New thread time ….cheers for the engagement … a long war ..with a growing number of enemies …

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  3. StewGreen says:
    February 17, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    Farage saying the black clothed tooled up youths look like antifa
    .. and then adds other stuff to say their is a campaign to get all migrant centre protests banned.

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  4. StewGreen says:
    February 17, 2023 at 10:53 pm

    Short clips are problematic. They mislead cos they don’t show context
    Here a 8 min video from the time BEFORE it’s on fire
    The video starts with guy right at line of police blocking the road . There dozens and dozens of them.
    After standing next to them for 2 minutes he literally walks 15 seconds and he’s at the van
    It’s vandalised He says “antifa did that”
    Every few seconds hooded youth pops up and has another go with a crowbar
    So that looks like the police have are abandoned their van and are literally 15 m away letting it get vandalised
    The guy speculated that it will get torched.
    .. https://youtu.be/8OAqoUXFfCA

    Apart from the 3 or 4 crowbar guys t’s certainly not a riot, most people are wondering around with phones filming
    There area lot of young women present
    His next video begins with van just starting fire
    and within 3 minutes almost all the crowd have retreatd away up the road
    The massed lines of police then charged forward slowlyish but stay the front of the van whereas the crowd are behind the van keeping some distance cos of risk of things exploding out of it.
    After 7 minutes the fire fills the full width of the road.
    4 minutes later the police have come around the van and are charging the crowds are panicking for a few seconds

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    • StewGreen says:
      February 17, 2023 at 11:15 pm

      There;s an earlier video where the police are 15 m in front of the in tact van ..Just one or two people are firing the occasional firework towards them
      So that could be how they lost control
      The do charge forward with shields but stop before they get to the van ..which is still in tact
      the crowd is very large and panicked by the charge,

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