Start the week 9th October 2023

Well Guys and Gals – it’s The Reckoning – a drama about – my goodness Jimmy Saville – whose existence on the BBC has been expunged (no top of the pops repeats for Jimmy) …. What will his victims think ?

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  1. Up2snuff says:

    Time to pray for the peace of Jerusalem as commanded by God in Psalm 122 verse 6. However it is a command with a promise attached: ‘they shall prosper that love thee’.

    Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee. (Psalm 122v6, KJV on-line)

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  2. Deborah says:

    I was in contact with someone in Israel. His daughter lives alone and is holed up in her home’s shelter in Ashkelon which is close to Gaza.

    He gave me an update on the family, all alive at the moment. But his first question was, ‘What is the British media saying about what is happening?’

    I refuse to watch the BBC because if I have to listen to Jeremy Bowen or Orla Guerin, I will probably throw up. What I assume will happen from past experience, is for the first couple of days we might have something like factual reporting. After that either them upstairs or Mishal will have found a way for it all to have been Israel’s fault. And if they cannot blame all Israel then it certainly will be Bibbi’s fault and they will find nice lefty Jews (or useful idiots as I call them) to demand his resignation.

    I just wonder if Israel kills an equal number of women and children acting as human shields for Hamas leaders, will Mishal think it proportionate? (Don’t answer that and I know Israel tries to avoid killing women and children, not make them the targets).

    Will people posting here let me know if I am correct in my predictions of how the BBC handle this terrible event.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Deborah – well I’m watching Al jaz era – I don’t understand how BBCOFCOM allows it to broadcast in the UK after RT was silenced .
      I sort of get the feeling the BBC doesn’t want to report on what’s happening – it would rather do something safe like the red labour conference .

      There was a detailed discussion on Al jaz about an Israeli government of unity forming up – something I haven’t heard on the BBC – also the US sending a carrier group – again not seen on the BBC . The slaughter at the gig is being covered – I don’t suppose even the BBC can ignore maybe 250 dead ….

      I still don’t get what the Islamic terrorist aim is . Surely it cannot just be terror and slaughter ? Is it a more wide spread war ? Will land up with those who financed and trained the Islamic terrorists being struck ? Iran ?

      Can but wish those affected well ….Deborah

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      • JohnC says:

        I suspect they want a seat at the bigger table.

        In Thailand a few years back (under Thaksin), the government (via his brother in law appointed to the position) announced they would negotiate with the Muslim terrorists in the South. The bombings and murders went through the roof : each faction was trying to gain itself more importance at the table. And in the end it was for nothing as the whole thing was in bad faith from both sides.

        They will be respected a lot more by Iran etc after this. What a shame they don’t care about how many will eventually die to get it.

        But of course their leaders will tell them it’s all the will of their God. Like ours did centuries ago.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      The BBC have been reporting from their base in Gaza.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Deborah,
      Totally agree with all of your views.
      I saw a picture of a bulldozer easily pushing through the border fence. If this is a true picture , you never know these days, I was surprised that the fence was so flimsy and easily breached. It can’t be pleasant to live in a country under an endless siege but the border fence needs to made much more formidable. Also I think that a lot of folk living in Gaza cross the border each day , this needs to be more rigorously controlled . Finally I think Israel should impose a naval blockade and search all ships bound for Gaza for arms.
      I know that a lot of Arabs live in Israel and have full Israeli citizens rights . Are you able to comment on how they feel about Hamas and the constant threat of terror year in year out?

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  3. JohnC says:

    More than 250 bodies found at site of Israeli Supernova festival – rescuers
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67037895

    And still the BBC refuse to use the word ‘terrorists’ in any of their reports.

    Far-Left activist scum. I can think of no other way to describe these monsters after what has happened yet they still try to protect those who did it.

    As soon as this phase of the proceedings is over, the BBC will drop it like a stone and the reports will be all about the ‘innocent’ Palestinians who got killed in the reprisals. I am sure they are secretly hoping there are a few children in there – and even better if they can get pictures.

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    • harry142857 says:

      BBC description ‘Militants and assault’.

      Heinous cover up of the true facts.

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    • StewGreen says:

      The second link there is fully of crappy clickbait
      The article is actually really short
      and focuses on this video

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  4. Deborah says:

    Thanks Fedup. I keep thinking of Miriam stuck in the shelter alone and her parents can do nothing (hopefully she is now in safe hands). But at least she is alive. There are now thought to be 700 dead and approx 1400 grieving parents.

    I have noticed the Daily Mail on line has concentrated on maybe 3 or 4 of the dead and their stories but saying next to nothing about what is happening now. I have been able to get onto Haaretz but the Jerusalem Post was inaccessible for most of the day.

    But I have noticed the repeated criticism that the Israeli government wasn’t doing much yesterday morning. It was a religious holiday and the sabbath. The expectation that someone was sitting in an office, and having been told what was happening, making instant decisions without contacting the Prime Minister and probably senior defence officials seems unlikely. Things would take at least a few minutes, then to get soldiers gathered up and for them to get to the troubled areas fast and safely would take a few minutes more. It is easy to criticise but harder to consider the practicalities. And don’t forget Orthodox Jews don’t usually answer their phones on a day of rest.

    Mahyar Tousi showed the Israeli flag shone onto the Brandenburg Gate, the Eiffel Tower, a building in Rome. London, nothing. The mayor (peace be on him) refused to write to the Home Secretary to ask that Hamas be considered a terrorist organisation but was happy to write to ask for more funding to keep people in London safe in the light of what is happening in Israel. I presume the girl in Croydon is forgotten.

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    • StewGreen says:

      “London nothing”
      em the PM tweeted this pic of the Downing St flag 3 hours before your post

      Almost 4 hours before your post Sky reported this
      “UK Government announces the Israeli flag will be flown on all British government buildings to show solidarity with the Jewish people. ”

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Hardly the work of the Emir of London though was it? That is the point which was being made.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The enemy does seem to have a pattern of hitting on religious holidays ….. I’m sure Israel will remember that for the next Islamic ‘holiday’ ….

      The bbc news seems to want to deflect by using stories connected to Britain – and looking at the 10pm news the BBC doesn’t seem to want to grasp the enormity of events …. It ain’t just another news item ….

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      • Guest Who says:

        Anticipate a raft of skateboarding turtles.

        Or Rachel Reeves being asked what she ‘will do’ to give everyone free munny.

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  5. Dickie says:

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Boris Johnson required an £800K to finance his profligate spending which even hisPrime Ministers salary wouldn’t cover, yet when he lost that job and resigned his commons seat to go into demi retirement he was able to purchase a £4 million manor house and remodel it to his expensive wifes tastes.

      And no one asks any questions as to where the money came from, nor what had to be done to acquire it.

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  6. tomo says:

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    • StewGreen says:

      Although purporting to be an account of a BBC journo
      it has no blue tick
      and the link it gives is to a “page unfound”

      It seems a troll account cos all tweets are hyperbolic positives about Hamas attacks
      and many are marked by @CommunityNotes as false

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  7. tomo says:

    Apols – too quick on the draw there – that said – there’s and extraordinary schism out there today between insane lefties and the rest …

    I caught some Palestinian telly streams earlier that were simply gruesome…. seen demonstrator footage in New York and London, seen utterly mad stuff from woke student bodies etcetera – so a BBC stringer in Israel gobbling off looked about par for the course.

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  8. tomo says:

    Intolerantly tolerant or something …

    Bob’s your aunty

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    • Guest Who says:

      Given how it has gone down in the USA, it might be a bit different. Sleepy’s Admin, especially the squad, is on the defensive, and the Israelis have a fair grasp of how whatever they do will be ‘reported’, so might well let a full tank of terrible resolve get unleashed.

      Wonder if JezBo will be again standing with the guys shooting at it.

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  9. JohnC says:

    I wondered what the Muslim Council of Britain had to say about these horriffic terrorist attacks:

    End the Violence Now: Muslim Council of Britain calls for peace in the Middle East
    https://mcb.org.uk/end-the-violence-now-muslim-council-of-britain-calls-for-peace-in-the-middle-east/

    ‘For 75 years, Palestinians have endured decades of illegal Israeli occupation, oppression and apartheid. They have experienced attacks on their towns, cities, and refugee camps, not to mention the thousands who have been killed indiscriminately.’

    ‘As such, we call for an immediate end to the violence and adherence to international law, in all its aspects. The international community must uphold their obligations towards ending the illegal occupation of Palestine. We call for renewed and sincere efforts for lasting peace.’

    So openly supporting Hamas then. Not a single word condemning the attacks.

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  10. Zephir says:

    Arabs with guns and knives against unarmed women and children, they are soo brave then, are they not ?

    “Bodies of 260 revellers killed in festival massacre are piled on top of each other as horrific Hamas attack aftermath is laid bare: Survivors describe terrorists going ‘tree by tree’ executing victims – with father who rushed to save daughter among missing”

    Same over here and elsewhere around the world where people are stupid enought to give arab muslims access to weapons.

    Lets see how they fare against similarly armed soldiers, Saddams “elite” republican guard springs to mind, I suspect all you will hear is the slap of their sandals as the brave freedom fighters run like hell.

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  11. Sluff says:

    Execrable so-called ‘reporting’ from the Palestinian Broadcasting Corporation this morning.

    The Bee Lady has been sent to Israel but she might as well have been in Gaza.

    At 0735 we had a lengthy uninterrupted rant from the Palestinian health ministry bemoaning the fact that dastardly Israel had retaliated and the hospitals were full of the injured. Immediately afterwards in low sorrowful tones we listened to someone from Oxfam also speaking unchallenged about conditions in Gaza. The Bee Lady didn’t interview, she just fed lines. The contribution of Hamas to this situation was, needless to say, unmentioned.

    Then we moved on to the newspaper review. For a few brief microseconds we heard a different view as Rick Knobson read out the headlines from the Mail (‘pawns of merciless terrorists’) and the Times. (the BBC cant bring themselves to say that themselves of course) But how to get back to business as usual? Easy. We then had a lengthy review, taking more time than all the other newspaper headlines, of the pro-Palestinian position from………The Morning Star!!!!!! On sale and being read by the pro-Palestinians outside the Labour Party conference, you see. So that’s all right then.

    BBC line. It’s all Israel’s fault.

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    • Sluff says:

      A quick mention for The Telegraph who has this second story heading on the front page this morning. I quote.

      ‘BBC fails public by not calling Hamas what they are – Terrorists’

      And so say all of us.

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  12. Fedup2 says:

    Today watch
    Comrade Robinson interviewing Rachel ‘I worked at the Bank of England ‘Reeve .

    Apparently red labour is going to ‘grow the economy ‘ .,.. yet it won’t have any money – the blue labour lot have maxed out the. Sovereign credit card …..
    Yet it promises not to raise key taxes …. So ‘do the math ‘….
    I will repeat my narrative – red labour win big – maybe a 150 majority – but are screwed by the legacy of the incompetent blue labour ‘ regime ‘( its not a government)-

    So it spends most of its ‘ first term blaming sunak and co – but disappointing its’ followers in the same way that idiots like me who voted ‘blue ‘ last time wasted their vote .

    Meanwhile Labour will find anyway of getting closer to the ReichEU – if it still exists

    As an aside – there seems more and more talk about a 1987 sized ‘market correction ‘ caused – maybe – by a toxic mix of war – inflation – huge state borrowing – a bank failing somewhere .. fear and greed …

    Back to ‘today ‘ – for some reason neither Meesh nor Amol have been sent to Jerusalem to report of the hamas terrorist war – instead – of all people – the bee lady – who will interview hammas ‘fighters – (BBC language ‘) about global warming …

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Danny Cohen ? – who apparently was a big cheese in the BBC has a ranting column in the DT asking why the BBC isn’t referring to a terrorist attack as a terrorist attack – when the UK state classifies Hamas as a terrorist gang ….

      Naturally there are comments about someone like Cohen – a BBC droid – now realising what the BBC is ….

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  13. AsISeeIt says:

    It would appear events, even distressing surprise events, do tend to reinforce one’s priors. So it is with the FT this morning. With an editorial history of complaining about Bibi’s ‘far-right’ government today the pink paged one takes the opportunity to publish: Gideon Rachman Netanyahu’s strategy towards the Palestinians now looks like a failure

    Cheap shot from the home of expensive advertisers such as: Chopard… The artisan of emotions since 1860 – the Alpine Eagle XL Chrono model will set you back something north of seventeen grand

    The ladies do hanker after a bad boy: Mastermind known as the Guest unleashes assault… Mohammed Deif, a Hamas commander nicknamed the Guest after his habit of moving between sympathisers houses each night… ability to outwit the Israeli military machine has earned him the reverence of Palestinian militants (FT) – sounds like a layabout sofa-surfer to me – and not to be glorified.

    Danny Cohen articulates what many hereabouts will be thinking. His Opinion piece is frontpage of the Telegraph: BBC fails publicaly by not calling Hamas what they are: terrorists

    The BBC is our state broadcaster – all too keenly willing to front up and parrot regime policies such as Lockdown.

    And yet: Rishi’s pledge: ‘Terrorism will not prevail’ (Daily Express – suddenly forgetting for a moment that bold masthead <b>’United with the People of Ukraine’) – point being – Boris and Hancock call it a Pandemic and so the BBC happily acquiesce – whereas Rishi calls it Terrorism and the BBC demure… with Militants or some such.

    On the BBC, my former employer, there appears to be a dictat not to use the word “terrorism” (Danny Cohen, Telegraph)

    How to explain this?

    Well, let’s take an analogeous example.

    Border Force staff flaunt Pride epaulettes… are allowed… the Home Office has said (Telegraph) – giving a whole new twist to the comedic term dressed up like a Swiss Rear Admiral

    Despite – as they say in journalism: Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary, writing to police chiefs last month reminding them that “officers should not be wearing or waving badges or flags that undermine their oath of impartiality…” (Telegraph)

    Perhaps those in the blob over there at the home office and the BBC know well enough that these are hollow nod and wink Tory dog whistle say one thing do another empty words when Rishi says terrorists and Suella says official uniform only?

    Who’s really running the country, we wonder?

    Time for a quick post-Brexit are we Taking Back Control check

    Sycamore Gap tree: Site plans are complicated, says MP… Hexham MP Guy Opperman [Conservative] said while discussions were ongoing, it was not straightforward as the location is a UNESCO world heritage site. “Hadrian’s Wall itself and the land around it is a UNESCO World Heritage site, which brings significant complications.” (BBC)

    Gotta check what our supranational globalist managerial overmasters have ordered.

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  14. Zephir says:

    I thought I would see the bbc news this morning, of course a lengthy interview about all the poor souls in Gaza running out of water and no electricity or food.

    Funny though how they can find unlimited suppies of guns, bombs and rockets though

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  15. andyjsnape says:

    Frontpage “news”

    Black History Month: ‘My jaw dropped when I saw what we were learning’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-67010533

    “Now aged 15 the student from Newcastle explained why she believed black history needed to be ingrained across the curriculum” – ingrained hey

    White history month? Sorry i’m being racist

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  16. Guest Who says:

    Mehdi reposted this.

    https://x.com/adilray/status/1711258765842952526?s=61

    Folk are pointing out that the Gazans voted these guys in.

    New forms of democracy have consequences.

    Mehdi was, of course, a BBC fave guest.

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  17. LynetteO says:

    The BBC’s concern is now for the Gazan people. The BBC World service just had an interview which confirmed that the Egyptian border is now open to them. But then the interviewee added that the Egyptians are charging too much for them to enter Egyptian territory. This shows how much the Egyptians care for their own brethren!

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    • Guest Who says:

      Charging to flee conflicts?

      Dover beaches with Apple Pay ready for RNLI drop outs?

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  18. andyjsnape says:

    Labour’s Rachel Reeves to set out plan to recover Covid fraud billions
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67048289

    Labour “promises”

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    • StewGreen says:

      advertising or news ?

      If something is reported before a speech, it’s promotion of the speech

      They trail that Reeves will give CHEAPER bills to residents who allow Wind/solar
      Who will pay for that ?
      Magic unicorns ?
      The truth is the rest of us will have HIGHER bills.

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      • andyjsnape says:

        Hello StewGreen

        bbc doesn’t like the Conservaties they are the only way we might finally/fully leave the eu

        It’s favourable of Labour

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      • Fedup2 says:

        I love a good promise – but I think they’ll find the fraudsters are a lot more intelligent than the ‘investigators – that getting the money out of Nigerian or EU banks will cost £10 for every £1 they get back ….and of course – they know that …

        … but it’s a nice promise – what about a National ULEZ Scheme – or getting rivers and the coast clean – of 5G free Wi Fi – a national ‘discount card ‘ ( not an ID card – honest ) … free every thing ( oops tories dun that ) 4 Christmases a year ……

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      • Sluff says:

        What fun it would be if all the people living in those rural areas getting the pylons were white middle class and got lower bills, while all those BAME folk living in tower blocks in Hackney and Islington got higher bills.
        Get ready for the charges of waycism.

        More seriously of course, discrimination is alive and well, and Labour are determined to create new forms of it.

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      • tomo says:

        Reeves and Miliband are spouting energy (and climate) lies with clear confidence that any challenges will be headed off by their preferred gatekeepers.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    9am R4 The Advertise Your Book Show is an Israel Special

    “This programme was set up before the violence broke out in Israel.
    Tom Sutcliffe will also be joined by the BBC’s Diplomatic Correspondent James Landale.

    The Israeli novelist and psychologist Ayelet Gundar-Goshen describes the shock felt by the attacks on her country.
    The Editor of the Jewish Chronicle Jake Wallis Simons discusses his book Israelophobia
    – journalist Nathan Thrall : His book reveals the every day life of Palestinians in one of the most contested places on earth”

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “most contested places on earth” …. Bradford is UK City of Culture 2025.

      Bradford has been revealed as the winner of the hotly contested UK City of Culture 2025 competition.

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  20. digg says:

    Anyone notice that the BBC is following up every claim made at the Labour conference with “explainers”.

    These appear to be making sure everyone “gets” the Labour message and what they claim they will do about it.

    The latest are on water company bosses bonuses and Covid fraud.

    It’s like Labour having a huge national propaganda team for free! the BBC are so cock sure they don’t even try to hide their political bias now.

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  21. digg says:

    Rip off Britain……

    3, yes 3 almost certainly very highly paid BBC golden oldies shoehorned into the program for a nice wad each no doubt and paid for by the public.

    That’s rip off Britain, right there!

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  22. JohnC says:

    Carol Vorderman given tough sum by Rob Burrow’s children
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-67051617

    For no reason whatsoever, the BBC are giving Vorderman some of their positive publicity.

    I couldn’t be due to her recent left-wing activism could it ?. For example encouraging people to complain to OFCOM about GB News ?.

    She has turned into a vile person – particularly from the outside where she looks like something made from plastic in a laboratory.

    Driven by deep-seated self-hatred no doubt. Very typical of the far-Left who are very good at all kinds of hate.

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  23. G says:

    “Under the radar, Biden regime approved sending $75,000,000 to ‘Palestinians’ the day before jihad massacres”.

    Well, what have we here then? “Food”? Yes, ‘food’ for war, weapons/rockets etc no doubt.

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/10/under-the-radar-biden-regime-approved-sending-75000000-to-palestinians-the-day-before-jihad-massacres

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  24. Foscari says:

    Why should the BBC call Hamas terrorists? The great
    majority of the anarchist Marxists Editors , sub editors,
    researchers, reporters, presenters, reporters support Hamas !!

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  25. MarkyMark says:

    Glastonbury fence-jumpers: ‘It was girls underneath, boys over the top!’
    Published
    24 June 2020

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-53151990

    _113051850_pa-1591539.jpg.webp

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  26. andyjsnape says:

    bbc feels its qualified to comment on ITV’s programmes

    Big Brother returns: 2.5 million watch as ITV launch show divides opinion
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67052057

    Worry about your own rubbish that you produce these days

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Big Brother contestant Sree Dasari slashes his wrists
      This article is more than 14 years old
      Reality TV show facing questions about screening of housemates after student admitted to hospital

      https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/jul/30/big-brother-sree-dasari-slashes-wrists

      Channel 4 and Endemol, the producers of Big Brother, are facing renewed questions about contestants’ mental health after a recently evicted participant was taken to hospital after apparently self-harming while watching the programme.

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  27. MarkyMark says:

    Hamas sponsor Glastonbury .
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-I4TnQX4AAso1W?format=jpg&name=4096×4096

    https://twitter.com/BenGoldsmith/status/1144853694208446465

    “No borders!” says fortress Glastonbury… itself enclosed within an eight foot wall patrolled by guards.

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  28. G says:

    The Bee Woman earlier:

    “It will be unseasonably warm”.

    Question is, is it likely to be ‘unseasonably Christmas’ soon………..

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  29. Thoughtful says:

    Oil up, gold and silver up, the Stock Market looks like it will go down.

    Biden has caused massive real and lasting damage not only to the USA, but to Europe as well. US oil reserves were used in a blatantly corrupt campaign to prop up support for the Democrats in the mid terms, and they should have been refilled when prices were low, but they weren’t. The US should normally be holding 6 months of reserves, but they are currently at a low of just 40 days.

    This is corruption and the RINOs should be calling this out, and making a future repeat illegal, but half the GOP are as corrupt as the Democrats so haven’t done that.

    If a war breaks out in the Middle East involving Iran or Syria oil is going to go through the roof, and don’t think America is going to send its oil to Europe, it’s going to keep it for itself and it will be us the supposed allies who suffer.

    In the UK our Marxist government has destroyed the countries ability to defend itself made worse by sending what weapons we did have to Ukraine. Biden has removed US ammunition stocks from Israel to support his corrupt war in Ukraine to the point where there is little left available.

    The Israeli Iron dome system has been shooting down Hamas Iranian made rockets, probably financed by Bidens war in Ukraine against Russia, and Bidens Democrats have been debating about whether they should supply the necessary weaponry to keep the iron dome system functional.

    It wouldn’t be so bad if there weren’t so many greedy and corrupt Jews within the higher ranks of the Democrat party, but they appear to be in a vast majority there, prepared to sacrifice the lives and security of their fellows in Israel for money and power.

    We don’t know where this is going to end the world is becomming increasingly unstable and more potential wars look like breaking out in various places and all of this can be laid at the door of corrupt Socialists doing what Socialism has always done – killing people.

    There might be shortages on the way so keep a few days of emergency food in the house just in case, and the advice of keeping vehicles and fuel storage topped up still holds good.

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  30. digg says:

    I have searched the numerous articles run on the BBC website to see how they are relaying the story of the Israeli butchery.

    There is not one instance that I can find of the description of the murderers as “terrorists” the closest they get is “militants”.

    There is a huge problem within the BBC about Israel and I believe OFCOM or even the Government needs to find out what’s going on and who are involved in skewing their reporting to be as lenient as possible on the wicked organisations responsible in this totally disgusting way.

    It is clear as day that the BBC have a mission on this. In fact omission of the truth.

    Unsurprisingly the BBC’s other arse cheek the Guardian have also followed the same path.

    Even Biden has referred to it a terrorist attack.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Doh the fact the BBC don’t call Hamas terrorists is no gotcha
      That has always been their policy
      And they have logical reasons for doing so
      They have to keep their own staff safe and they have to work in Arab countries.

      The bias is in things like failing to report attacks

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      “At around 06:30 local time, the rockets began to fly.

      The Islamist militant organisation – which controls Gaza and is designated as a terrorist group in the UK and elsewhere around the world – uses this tactic frequently”

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67046750

      Clearly the BBC doesn’t agree, but that’s about the nearest they get – throwing in that almost made up word Islamist, probably never used in conjunction with anything other than a, t t t t.. militant attack

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    • Pat..original says:

      Radio Devon this morning went with ‘gunmen’.
      Not sure of the veracity but have read that OFCOM is mostly ex BBC staffed.

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  31. Dickie says:

    Covid 19 government/NHS jab sales techniques 😂😂😂. Just received my invitation. Letter in Covid19 shredder.

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  32. andyjsnape says:

    bbc webshte:-

    Dead bodies of Hamas fighters still lying on the ground
    We saw dead bodies of Hamas fighters still lying on the ground – left to rot – unlike their Israeli victims who’ve long ago been taken away for identification and buria

    “Fighters”? Terrorists?
    “Left to rot, unlike their Israeli victims”

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    • StewGreen says:

      that’s Jonathan Beale reporting from southern Israel, near Gaza
      He continues
      “We watched as one Israeli driver stopped his truck so he could pick up a rock to throw at the corpse of one dead Hamas fighter.”

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      • JohnC says:

        The Hamas fighter of course would be have been happy to throw rocks at Jonathan Beale if he was gay.

        After he had been thrown off a tall building of course.

        But the BBC would NEVER tell us that. They must be preserved as ‘victims’ to use as weapons against the Right.

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        • RightSide says:

          And the Israelli would be happy to welcome you to ‘his’ country if you denounce Christ and convert to Judaism.

          If you try to preach the gospel in ‘his country he and many others will attack you and you could face jail time.

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    • Guest Who says:

      A link would help.

      Assuming this ‘report’ is accurately quoted here, it is hardly a surprise.

      It’s an active war zone and and nothing is stopping the ‘reporter’ stopping to give them a good Christian burial.

      Just… watch out for IEDs, cretin.

      As with most things, they bring their fun with them to places you feel safe.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Just a misunderstanding … web-woolwich-itv_1.jpg?width=1200

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  33. tomo says:

    Ismail Haniyeh, the leader behind Hamas’s deadliest ever attack on Israelis, watched it unfold on television with delight from the safety of Qatar….

    Footage from inside his Doha office showed Haniyeh celebrating the attack with other Hamas officials, before they prostrated themselves on the carpet and praised God.

    https://archive.ph/CrswD

    How many MSM peeps are on the Qatari payroll ?

    At what point do the Israelis say “to hell with it” and send a team to Doha?

    https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/qatar-and-isis-funding-us-approach

    Anybody with a fat bank account in Qatar is a member of the Al Thani family – just saying

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  34. andyjsnape says:

    Can always tell when the likes of the bbc approve:-

    Full house for Reeves’s speech
    The hall for Rachel Reeves speech is full, including front row seats for the shadow cabinet and Labour grandees.

    Arguments broke out as a huge queue of disappointed attendees were turned away at the door.

    Fingers down throat time!

    Labour’s shadow cabinet has been largely united in its response to the attacks on Israel, with senior figures saying the country has a right to self-defence against terrorism – “Largely” – normally the likes of the bbc would dig up someone to give a different point of view – I wonder who the minority were, maybe they could be interviewed for balanced reporting

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  35. Guest Who says:

    Cattle class clown has a knockabout with a Jewish media person, eaten second to last.

    https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1711194757764948186?s=20

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  36. vlad says:

    The BBC never designates the murderous acts of Hamas as what they really are: terrorist attacks by a terrorist organisation.

    That kind of faux neutrality is tantamount to complicity.

    It would be like claiming a moral equivalence between the Nazis and the Allies.

    Ban the BBC, Ofcom, you useless lefties.

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  37. andyjsnape says:

    bbc “reports”:-

    UK chief rabbi: ‘Time of mourning and deep grief’
    UK chief rabbi Sir Ephraim Mirvis has told the BBC “there is hardly a Jewish family in the UK which is not affected in one way or another by what has happened in Israel”.

    He said this was a “time of mourning, of deep grief, and of enormous worry” for the Jewish community.

    He also warned that “all steps need to be taken in order to guarantee safety”.

    On Monday, a Kosher restaurant in Golders Green, north London, was vandalised and a bridge metres away graffitied with “Free Palestine”.

    The Metropolitan Police said no arrests had been made, and the incident was not being treated as a hate crime.

    Not being treated as a hate crime??

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    • taffman says:

      More problems like this coming this way across the Channel in illegal small boats?
      Is the Home Office doing its best to protect the people of Great Britain other than filling up 4 Star hotels ?

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  38. RightSide says:

    20160914_NYC_Jews-for-Refugees003.jpg

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    • StewGreen says:

      That overlarge image is from the Jews for Refugees | Facebook page
      “Guided by our Jewish values and history, we are a network of people taking action for the safety and dignity of refugees around the world”

      Surely everyone is in favour of helping refugees
      It’s just that the crazy UK open borders policy is a crap way
      Getting their own governments to be civil in the first place, is a good way.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        There’s a huge difference between refugees and illegal migrants lying about where they came from and faking persecution !

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      • RightSide says:

        https://hias.org/welcome-campaign/

        … is where it came from.

        This must be the biggest cope of the day from you.

        So the Jewish are bending over backwards to support immigration of ‘refugees’ (could be economic of political) to toher countries, yet refuse to do the same in their own country.

        That is called hypocrisy

        https://lawoffice.org.il/en/israel-immigration-rules/

        “Can anyone immigrate to Israel?

        The answer to that is no. Israel does not see itself as an immigration destination for the world and does not have a general immigration policy.”

        “Is Israel immigration possible if I am not Jewish?

        Yes, Israel is defined as a Jewish and Democratic state and Israel immigration rules reflect this reality …

        In any case, it is possible for non-Jews to immigrate to Israel when the following conditions apply:

        – Family members of Israeli citizens
        – Those who are not Jewish themselves but saved the lives of Jews during the period of the Jewish holocaust of World War II
        – Those who are recognized as refugees in Israel, or are recognized as stateless people are granted after a long legal process a temporary resident visa (A-5)
        – If the minister of internal affairs deems that you have made a significant contribution to the state of Israel

        Hmm.

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  39. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Are any bbbc correspondents based in the hamas area or are they all safely reporting from the Israeli area.
    If none are there, why not. They (bbbc) should be safe seeing that they are best mates and appear to be their biggest supporter.

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  40. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – emitting CO2 so that you do not have to!

    The BBC love to tell us listeners and viewers that we should not use our cars, we should not fly, even once a year on holiday, and we should turn our thermostats down because we are creating climate change and boiling the planet if we drive and fly and heat our homes to a liveable temperature in winter.

    The big question for the D-G, Tim Davie, must be why has Radio4 sent the Bee Lady all the way to Israel when in the first half hour of TOADY all Martha did was talk to a BBC correspondent, John Donnison, who was there before Martha arrived. That is a disgraceful waste of TellyTaxpayer money and creation of unnecessary CO2 emissions which the BBC say are ‘a bad thing’.

    Despicable BBC.

    Cancel your TellyTax, folks, save money and the planet (maybe but probably not).

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  41. tomo says:

    verboten

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  42. MarkyMark says:

    Remember how the BBC report news … terrorist is victim …

    “I am not kidding. @BBCNews website leaves the impression the Syrian suicide bomber as a victim in a ‘German blast’.” – Tarek Fatah 24jul2016

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