Weekend 14th October 2023

“HAMAS – which some western governments describe as a terrorist group “ – but not the BBC .. which lost its’ moral compass years ago. Defund it . Don’t pay their licence . Meanwhile … a national election in Poland and an Australian referendum on Aboriginal’rights ‘ – all fresh meat for the Far Left BBC ..

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236 Responses to Weekend 14th October 2023

  1. BRISSLES says:

    OMG OMG ! Finally ! One for the girls again !!!


    • Up2snuff says:

      Well done, Brissles. At last! I’ll ‘ride shotgun’ for you for a change. Something sensible to say? Defund the BBC. They are odious and out of control and have proved it this week.


      • Scroblene says:

        Well done Brissles!

        To quote Uppers’ oft repeated anecdote, there is some cricket going on somewhere, (or is it some sort of tag rugby), but I chose to watch a YouTube of a match with Mike Brearly and Geoffrey Boycott batting, and the quality of play, the good manners and the general peace and quiet of Jim Swanson and Richie Benaud, lulled me to a such a pleasant time from all those years ago, I was in heaven…

        So I forgot to check in!


  2. BRISSLES says:

    I have to think now of something sensible to say 🙂


    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      I have something to say.

      That fetid & festering, terrorist-supporting excuse for a public broadcaster we call The BBC wants shutting down completely. ASAP.

      They’ve outdone even their own low standards this week.


  3. StewGreen says:

    BBC false equivalence between ATTACK actions by Hamas, and DEFENCE actions by Israel


  4. Dickie says:




  5. StewGreen says:

    A lefty with a new BBC Radio4 series speaks his mind
    (OK Pie is a comedy character, but his supporters take his tweets literally)

    “The problem with this position is that Lineker chose to enlighten us on 1930s Nazi behaviour (persecution of Jews/ antisemitism) as his assessment of govt Policy on Rwanda scheme.
    So now we have a 1940s level of terrorist atrocities against Jews, why does he remain silent?
    That’s the point.”

    “Gary Lineker has suffered from verbal diarrhoea for years. It’s reasonable enough to ask why, all of a sudden, he’s constipated.”


    • Fedup2 says:

      Think Gary might prefer the Islamic Arab money rather than principles ( like the FA ) … cut and paste that maxi …

      At least we now know – for English Football Jewish Lives Don’t Matter ..


      • StewGreen says:

        Like the FA using Israeli flags, would offend the Arabs that own half the Premier League.


        • Fedup2 says:

          What will happen when the prem comes back next weekend . What will Gary Say? I suspect nothing . Will those clubs take the knee ? The Yiddos a spurs? Or arsenal ? Or will it just be crap BLM frauds and perverted ‘respect ‘ flags for ‘pride ‘ and supporting the queers Hamas would happily torture to death for Allah ?


          • Jeff says:

            I don’t doubt that normal service will have been resumed, with all the bone-headed millionaire parasites doing their pantomime kneeling for the repulsive BLM and making sure they’re all wearing their rainbow shoelaces.

            The commentator, usually some half-baked sanctimonious pea brain, will remind us that all the grovelling is to “end discrimination”. Oh yes, of course it is.

            While the vile thug George Floyd received endless eulogies, there will be a deathly silence regarding the massacre of the Israeli innocents.

            God’s teeth, these hideous frauds make my flesh crawl…


            • tomo says:


              • JohnC says:

                You see, to me that’s just a jumble of buzzwords.

                I don’t see how the first line infers the second. It’s just meaningless nonsense.

                God help us if this man is our next PM. Lefties are saying ‘he’s safe hands’. I say he’s the opposite. He’s an empty bag of wind.


                • tomo says:

                  It looks, to me anyway – that they’ve a committee of communications professionals generating Starmer’s utterances.

                  – perhaps those professionals have broad experience in pet food marketing.

                  Bag of wind ? – empty gourd etc….


                  • Guest Who says:

                    There is certainly a large team of Comms weenies hitting all platforms every few seconds.

                    ‘Professional’? No.

                    Almost every one backfires.


              • Docmarooned says:

                What utter shit! How much is that bastard Starmer getting from this unelected nothing.


              • Rob in Cheshire says:

                So is it Sir Keir’s policy now to be Bill Gates’s bitch?

                Good job he’ll have new policies next week, and the week after…


    • Guest Who says:


      Pie in face double for Gaz and Jon.


  6. Deborah says:

    As you all know I refuse to watch the BBC’s reporting of what has happened in Israel this week. However, the Daily Mail on line had as its headline for much of today, a BBC reporter in a Gaza hospital in tears saying that he had seen there things that no one should ever have to see. I presume this was supposed to equate to the slaughtered Jewish babies with their heads separated from their bodus, or the heap of bodies after the music festival, or the twisted leg of a young woman’s body. Whether the repoter’s words were his own idea or that of his Hamas minder is unknown. The BBC cannot plunge to deeper depths of evil.


    • Mrs Kitty says:

      Did he have a minder, I read the article and as soon as I saw his title BBC Arabic reporter and his name Adan El-Bursh I thought yesss very impartial reporting there.


      • Deborah says:

        I am assuming there was a minder, but with his name it may have been considered unnecessary.


  7. StewGreen says:

    BBC Radio Humberside news “Greenpeace say that 175K people are on the waiting list for an allotment”

    Why is Greenpeace PR read out as if it is news
    of course people are on a waiting list for subsidised stuff


  8. tomo says:

    That’s it, the Israelis are toast…


    • JohnC says:

      One might expect that thing reads ‘Pink News’ and is aware of this:

      ‘Small kids made to look on as ISIS throws ‘gay’ man off building and stone him to death’

      … or perhaps it is just another antisemetic racist using awful events as a bandwagon. There are plenty of them at the BBC as well.


      • Dickie says:

        Must have been a pretty low building to have to be stoned to death after the fall.


        • JohnC says:

          What struck me about those stories was not ISIS throwing them off – standard barbarity for Muslim extremists – but the size of the eager mob waiting below with rocks. I doubt they cared if he was alive or dead when they threw them. It was just hate.

          It’s what I envisage the woke and trans mobs look like out of their virtual world.


          • tomo says:

            The rapidity with which mobs and bands of nasties appear on the streets in some parts of the world in support of some hatey “thinking” isn’t something that gets much comment.

            Eventually if pushed hard enough and far enough most will get out there – but there are places where the threshold is a LOT lower.


          • G says:

            “Coming to a Town or City near you soon”


    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Transgender turkeys (voting for Christmas)?


    • Sluff says:

      I presume they haven’t checked out what Islam has to say about homosexuality.
      Nor what the punishment is for such activity.


  9. Zephir says:

    One minute dancing around in the streets with flags and guns in their hands and abusing women and children hostages

    next minute shouting to the world and complaining loudly about the inevitable consequences.

    If only our own authorities could recognise the only way to deal with these.


  10. JohnC says:

    Just having a look at what steaming piles of news the BBC are serving up today and to my surprise they have shifted back to some more stories about the Hamas attack – which had been more or less dropped in favour of telling us about the misery of the people in Gaza.

    And this is exactly what they do : they went over the top in their coverage of nasty Israel exterminating poor Muslims and they have received a ton of criticism for their thinly-veiled but obvious support for the non-terrorists. So they have pulled it back.

    They’ve seen where the red line can be pushed to and now they’ve moved back.

    But make no mistake, they will do it again. This time not quite so extreme. And if they get away with that, it will be the new ‘normal’.


  11. Scroblene says:

    Why haven’t the Beebonics said anything about Russell Brand for a couple of weeks?

    D’you think someone’s found out that the cubicles are hiding something which they’d hidden away, hoping nobody would notice?

    I’m sure Vilify’s on the case as they’re thinking there’s nothing to report…

    …or is there?


    • Zephir says:

      Wrong speak, Laurence Fox, Julian Assange, Gary Mckinnon etc etc


    • JohnC says:

      Amazing isn’t it ?. Multiple articles every day then suddenly stops.

      Maybe they don’t want to talk about him while ‘Savile’ is being shown in case people point out how many others they nurtured and protected.


      • Scroblene says:

        That’s a good point John, obfuscation by omission!

        They clearly ‘upped’ the PR for Savile, by getting everyone up in arms about Brand, so their tiresome programme would start some sort of frenzy?

        That worked well didn’t it!


  12. JohnC says:

    Glorify Hamas and you break law, says UK terror watchdog

    This is how the BBC and Getty want you to think of Hamas fighters. Professional looking, well equipped soldiers:


    This is what they really are. Murdering thugs who kidnap civilians to use as hostages (and I bet there’s no small amount of rape going on too):


    Only the hypcorites at the BBC can run an article about not glorifying Hamas while at the same time glorifying Hamas.


  13. Flotsam says:

    Just as a bit of perspective regarding the role of religion in conflict, torture and oppression. The conflict between people of one Christian faith against another, ie Protestant v Catholic, was pretty vicious. I’m talking about wars, terrorism, torture and brutal executions, endorsed by religious and politico/religious leaders. To be fair, that seems to have been left behind a few of centuries ago but should not be forgotten.
    The Jews seem to have been hated virtually everywhere by every other religious sect.

    Islam does however seem to be the driver for centuries of violence and doesn’t seem to be moderating. It should not be forgotten that many countries in the middle east are Moslem by conquest. Iran for example was a Zorarastrian country until invaded by Moslem conquest.

    Perhaps Britain should seriously curtail the Moslem invasion of Britain before it’s too late.


    • Zephir says:

      I think yout point about being left behind is relevant

      in this country, at speakers corner we allow all nutters to speak

      until the muslims with a UK passport voice theie opinion backed up with violence and intolerance


    • JohnC says:

      The problem is people on the Right who live in the real world have seen the potential problem for our society for many years and have warned of it.

      This has given the Left (who live in their own theoretical version of how the real world should be) someone they can use as ‘victims’ to attack their ideological enemy – the Right.

      Hence they must be protected as ‘victims of the racist Right’ to swing the silent majority of people who are politically somewhere in the middle. Because getting power is all that matters to them. They can’t force their ideology onto a country without it.

      I have no problem with people of any colour being here. What I do object to is how they are being allowed to change our society into their own religion-based or drug-dealing gang shithole. And they now do it through threats of violence if we don’t let them. Just watch the protests at Londonistan this weekend. See the fanatical hatred on their faces as they march.

      Oh sorry, you probably won’t be able to. Our National Broadcaster will go to great lengths to hide the truth if it doesn’t suit them.


      • G says:


        But just think: At least, ‘We are saved from Boris’.

        If we still had Boris/Carrie, “in charge” and due to the Winston Churchill connection to Israel being geographically located, he would have invited the > 1 million “Refugees” to take up residence in the UK…………..

        A ‘la Hong Kong


        • JohnC says:

          I came to realise that all the ‘good’ things that got done under Boris were actually done by Cummins and Boris is just an empty shell who presents the ‘policies’ of others as his own.

          It all went terribly wrong for all of us when he chose NutNut over Dominic.


          • Fedup2 says:

            It’s a shame nut nut won’t be in the box at the covid inquiry because she seemed to have a disproportionate influence on government policy …


    • Square-Eyed says:


      I’d just like to put in a word for atheism as a people-eliminator.

      Joseph Stalin got rid of 20 million folk, the regime of Mao Zedung at least double that. [Ref Bannister, “The Atheist Who Didn’t Exist”, p 22] However I agree that Islam is well on the way to catching them.


      • Flotsam says:

        Communism is an alternative religion, a cult, it works in the same brainwashing way and driven by zealots. A bit like Green/MMGW, other cultish stuff as well such as BLM, Identity politics etc.


    • vlad says:

      1. The West left religious wars centuries ago.

      2. There’s a huge difference between war despite your religious teachings and war because of religious teachings advocating violence. The latter can never be left behind.


  14. Zephir says:


  15. Zephir says:


    • JohnC says:

      I bet nobody dare stand at speakers corner and praise Israel whilst condemning the acts of Hamas this weekend.

      That’s basically suicide and highlights perfectly where ‘free speech’ is today.


  16. Zephir says:


    • vlad says:

      And of course Sadiq Khan’s Metropolitan goons did nothing.

      In the case of Hatun (above) who was stabbed in the face, they actually arrested HER!


      • atlas_shrugged says:

        This shows the true face of the ‘wet police’.

        They prefer to baton and put attack dogs on people legitimately and peacefully protesting against lockdown.

        Wow betide a sole Christian preacher reading from the bible in Londonistan. Instant arrest!


  17. Non Snowflake says:

    If you follow golf then you may be aware that a female player – Lexi Thompson – has been competing in an American Men’s tournament over the past 2 days.

    The current headline on the BBC golf page is that she is “battling” to make the cut. Well I have news for you BBC, she actually missed the cut about 12 hours ago. It will be interesting to see if they continue to hide this fact or report it quickly and hope nobody notices.

    This actually got me thinking. Why do women want, or need, to play on the men’s tour? I’ve read on the PGA Tour website that it will “inspire” girls of all ages to play golf. But why does she need to play in a men’s event to “inspire”? Surely if (as we keep being told) that men’s tournaments and women’s tournaments are “equal” then they will surely have the same viewing figures on the respective TV channels, so why bother playing on the men’s tour?

    I have no objections to ladies playing on the men’s tour, but history shows that they are simply wasting their time from a financial point of view.


    • JohnC says:

      What I don’t understand is that if women are as equal to men as we are being constantly told by the BBC, why do we even have seperate events ?.

      Why aren’t the activists demanding men+womens competitions be combined ?. The trans can even join in too.

      They key is in your last sentence : ‘financial point of view’. Because every single thing activists demand – whether race or sex based – always involves their ‘gain’. They are not interested in anything which works the other way.

      Which is why I consider everything they say to be complete hypocrisy. They might as well have the simple slogan ‘We want more.’.

      Men and women are not the same. Men are better at somethings and women are better at others. Trying to say otherwise is agenda-based lies.


      • tomo says:

        The BBC are firmly in the Frank Spencer dressed in a pilot’s uniform is an airline pilot or Frank Spencer in scrubs is a brain surgeon camp?

        The fundamental dishonesty of refusing to acknowledge that people aren’t all the same and insisting “anybody can do anything” – while simultaneously acting otherwise is profoundly irritating.

        There is “Mrs Brown’s Boys” I suppose…

        and Marianna Spring is a journalist – eh?


  18. Zephir says:

    Fire brigade entrance requirements

    after 6 months of fitness trainng I entered

    out of 300 applicants we were down to 30

    required to dress up in fire brigade overcoats and trousers over the top of our clothes then reeling out hose and drawing it in agan, over and over again on our hands and knees.

    In a heat wave in August at St Albans

    Then, given a fire extinguisher to carry and into a tunnel and drag it around with smoker around us

    I started vomiting and gave up

    many wimmin get in now

    how strange


  19. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    Meesh sounds lost – she just wants to be in Gaza screaming at the IDF and calling them ‘war criminals ‘ – instead they got hold of some useful idiot Norwegian £ aid worker £ telling us that Israel is committing war crimes by defending itself . It went down really well – he might become a BBC favourite .

    Monday could be a busy day – the result of the Australian referendum – the result of the Polish general election and the BBC being a mouthpiece for Hamas.

    Completely different – someone called Freddie flintof is to get a £9 million pay off for being in top gear . The BBC news is at pains to say the nine million is not licence money but from the ‘commercial arm ‘ of the BBC .

    Now to me – if the ‘commercial arm ‘ derives its’ existence from state funding – then that is licence fee money . …but that’s just me …


  20. JohnC says:

    Gaza evacuation a war crime, says Egeland

    Jesus H Christ. the BBC are back to ‘War Crime’ accusations. Something tells me they will be a daily headline at the BBC from now on. And always against Israel.

    You can be sure anyone who ‘Today’ brought in as an expert is about as impartial as the guests on Jeremy Vile’s show.

    Always both sides mentioned, but one more than the other.

    ‘It is “not an evacuation opportunity, it’s an order to relocate. Under humanitarian law, it’s called forcible transfer of populations, and it’s a war crime,”’

    From what I’ve seen it IS an evacuation opportunity. Nobody is forcing them to go. Israel are quite within the rules of war to attack Hamas fighters if they are in civilian areas as long as they don’t intentionally target civilians for no reason.

    How many times have the BBC cried ‘War Crime’ recently – and amazingly enough ALWAYS against the side they do not support. Their preferred side get a free ticket.

    Lets not forget the biggest war crime of all in recent times : the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline. It’s target was elderly and vulnerable Germans who were lucky it was such a mild winter. It showed me everything I need to know about the BBC when they brushed it under the carpet.


  21. Zephir says:

    F@ck public safety

    “We are Women in the Fire Service UK

    Women in the Fire Service UK (WFS) was set up in the 1990s as a self-help group. Our members of all genders, come from all roles across the Fire and Rescue Service – from firefighters and control staff, administrative and support staff and senior officers, to members of airport, defence and works fire services.

    Since its formation, the membership have sought to influence the equality agenda, taking active roles in research, for example into women’s fit fire kit, supporting positive action initiatives, working with the government in nationwide campaigns for recruitment and playing a part in national groups with other stakeholders. We are recognised nationally, currently holding a seat on the Fire Sector Federation, amongst other inputs to the local and national agenda.
    Our purpose statement

    “Enabling and inspiring confident and successful women to build a more progressive Fire and Rescue Service.”



  22. Zephir says:

    “Enabling and inspiring confident and successful women to build a more progressive Fire and Rescue Service.”

    putting out fires and rescuing people ?



  23. JohnC says:

    BBC journalists held at gunpoint by Israeli police

    ‘They were dragged from the vehicle – marked “TV” in red tape – searched and pushed against a wall.’

    Dragged BBC ?. I think you are lying again. If they were, they must have been refusing to do what they were told.

    Once again Israel are showing the rest of the world how you deal with terrorists and their sympathisers.


    • Guest Who says:

      All things considered, if the child killers can get everything from Biden’s ARs to EU microlights, finding a cosplay outfit and a car sticker is hardly a stretch.

      And as JezBo has shown, they do like to embed with the folk firing first.


      • JohnC says:

        I only realised yesterday that many (if not all) of the BBC reporters in Gaza are actually locals and part of the same community.

        How on Earth can they be considered to provide ‘unbiased and impartial’ reports ?. Even if they don’t agree with Hamas (unlikely), there’s no way they dare say anything negative about them.


  24. AsISeeIt says:

    The ‘gay tax’ facing same-sex couples starting a family – niche, BBC. That’s very niche.

    Speaking of tax…

    The left-leaning ‘i’ Weekend, which by the way, seems to understand market economics well enough: At least £2 cheaper than The Times, The Guardian and The Telegraph… Last chance: Autumn sale now on! Get this paper for half price – visit blah-blah-de-blah dot com… – goes with: Exclusive Half of Labour voters want higher public spending – let’s parce this apparent poll result and interrogate the sentiment behind it.

    Given that we take for granted Labour voters understand that the higher public spending they want can only derrive from higher taxes – governments cannot actually ‘print’ money.

    I know this is quite a leap and requires us to assume a certain level of economic nous not presently being imparted to the mass population by either our state education system or popular media. For whatever reason.

    As a test case: £9m BBC Freddie Payout… settlement with the BBC over his Top Gear smash (The Sun) – now, do we all understand that this money doesn’t magically come into existance from nowhere?

    There’s no self-perpetuating renewable sustainable slush-fund. That £9m is either debited against some other BBC spending budget or comes from an insurance claim resulting no doubt in higher premiums elsewhere. There’s no no-victim victim payouts.

    All the best to Freddie by the way, you’re just a handy topical example in an economic thought experiment. If only they hadn’t given Clarkson the elbow our BBC would still have had his little mate Hammond to put up for the dangerous driving jobs in Top Gear.

    So we understand there are no magic money trees and once you’ve hacked down your Sycamore Gap ancient tree, so to speak, it’s not going to have suddenly grown back for you the next day. Not without work, nurture and time. We all understand that, even Labour voters? Resources are finite in the moment – you have to work to create some more.

    But given, for the sake of argument, that unlikely premise is understood. Then your higher state-spending favouring voter is telling us ‘the government ought to take more of my money and spend it for me, because… I guess… I believe the public sector will do a better of job of spending my money than I would’

    Or of course there’s the other incentive where I reckon I’ll get more out than I put in to that national tax pot. This is the Gordon Brown notion of a Client State.

    Despite the Cool Britannia, the outsourcing of dirty jobs, the hyper low wage immigration, despite the 50% university education, we’re all now at the end of the afterparty that came at the end of the good times, simply grubbing for the diminshing state handouts.

    I’m oddly reminded of that scene in the fin de siècle-style cult movie that so poignantly mourned the close of the 1960s Withnail and I [1987] where down on his luck slum dwelling alcohol swilling Richard E Grant plays the perpetually resting young thespian who in sheer frustration declares: “I’m a trained actor, reduced to the status of a bum!”


    • Fedup2 says:

      ASI – funny how events have knock consequences – if some kidult hadn’t blubbed about Clarkson smacking him – top gear might still be a ;’thing ‘ Clarkson wouldn’t be making cash from the hugely popular Amazon Farm Show – and the Freddie character wouldn’t be £9 million better off to salve his BBC caused injuries …
      I sort of watched top gear during Clarkson time but never since …


  25. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – is the BBC ‘running scared’?

    I have heard numerous times in the R4 News and in the Bulletins on the half-hour how Andrew Flintoff has reached a settlement, rumoured to be £9 million (two years earnings !!!!!??), for ‘his Top Gear accident’ with the programme maker BBC Studios which does not receive Licence Fee Payer’s money.


  26. Thoughtful says:

    Another report of the situation in Israel which has the potential to develop into WWIII.

    I hope to God that it doesn’t, however if Iran does get a bit antsy and decides to close the straits of Hormuz to shipping again we in Europe are going to be the ones who will suffer.

    It’s hard to overstate how bad a President Biden or those pulling his strings have been. In the three years he has been President he has destroyed America and its future, who ever takes over will not be able to undo the catastrophic damage which has been done.

    First we saw the catastrophic rout in Afghanistan which left behind $8 Bn US weaponry which is almost certainly finding its way into the hands of Jihadis. The Ukraine war the Democrats had started under Obama has sucked the West dry of ammunition and reserve weaponry whilst strengthening those of the non aligned world.
    The weaponisation of the Dollar has led to the world now seeking to replace it as the reserve currency – something which now cannot be undone, and worse than that Biden alienated the entire Arab world with his pro Gay rhetoric.

    Worse still are the corrupt practices of the Democrats, now we see the US oil reserves are at an all time low because Biden used them to corruptly reduce the price at the pump in the run up to the mid terms, now the US reserves are at an all time low. The US is still a net importer of fuel even when times are good so don’t expect to get any oil for Europe from them.

    So we can rule out Russia the Middle East and America for oil, that only leaves North Sea reserves for Europe, and the muppets we have as political elites are certain to gift that to their EU mates for nothing in return.

    Everything we have in this country is delivered by road because of a failure of government to invest in infrastructure such as rail transport, preferring vanity projects like HS2 which was always completely unecessary.

    So if this war does expand, you can expect shortages of food in the shops, because of fuel shortages. At the supermarket yesterday I bought some dried pasta and rice


    There are various options, this costs just £1 and will keep for a long time. It’s an incredibly cheap option to make sure a meal is possible, and it’s so light and small, shouls the worst happen and you are forced to flee then you could easily pack it and take it on the run. Rice versions are also available.

    I doubt that we are going to come out of this unaffected, apparantly the Muslims are rioting in Rome, at least they have a Prime Minister with more balls than the eunech Rishi Washee, so here’s the latest NY Prepper video of what is going on.


    • gb123 says:

      I would add to that list. Store some water and some method of purification. Have a way of heating and cooking that is off grid. Wood burning stoves would have been good except the net zero mafia are intent on removing them.


  27. tomo says:


    The bullet points on the “live” feed are imho as disingenuous as can be – one word taken away or added makes a huge difference – that to me looks … yet again… deliberate?

    The BBC is not some provincial newspaper driven to employ partially literate nitwits posting directly warts ‘n all. The BBC front page is crafted by a team !


    • Fedup2 says:

      Playing the global politics game always lands up with a bad outcome and a head ache for me – the issue about the extremely precarious situation re oil supply is s horror – and the likes of Iran and Putin must just look at how easy it wouid be to strangle The West right now as we head into winter .

      Apart from border control energy independence has to be the national priority but the fools in charge just don’t see it – even after Ukraine and now Gaza .

      As for the video – I thought the US always has those airborne command and control planes up – but it’s a bit off thar anyone can see where they are – including those targeting them ….

      …as for Israel – whatever happens next Hamas has achieved its objective of setting things back – any of those efforts by president Trump – never mentioned by the BBC to get proper relations between states is gone .

      Israel will come out of it even stronger and even more military – every one will be carrying a gun .i don’t think Islamic Hamas terrorism will be stopped – and we can only guess what the next attacks will look like ….

      As for personal welfare – I’m stocked up far more than before covid on just about every thing – but more generally I think we ( the Uk ) remains as unprepared for more trouble at home … in fact in many ways it’s a ruined nation


  28. Dickie says:

    “After an Israeli reserve soldier named David Ben Zion told a reporter Palestinian militants “cut [off] heads of babies,” Biden, Netanyahu, and the international media amplified the dubious claim.
    The Grayzone has identified Ben Zion as a fanatical settler leader who incited riots by demanding a Palestinian town be “wiped out.”




  29. Nibor says:

    I`m on the fence about the war in the Middle East .
    I have sympathy for both sides even as atrocities happen .

    But I will not be neutral if the war down there comes to the streets of my country , even if it`s in London .

    I will then have to decide , and it will be ;

    which side is not aggressive in my country – I will support them .

    which side does the BBC support – I will be against them .


    • Fedup2 says:

      Nibor – I think you’ll find ‘the fence ‘ doesn’t exist any more ( sorry 😞) – but I understand your view about the ‘difficult ‘ history of the expansion of Israel and the consequences on non Israelis
      From an Israeli point of view Gaza has to go – and 2 million residents sent to Egypt – by whatever means …. But the human cost …. Ugh ….


      • Nibor says:

        Fed ,

        I`ve already mentioned that before the war aliens were forbidden to take part in any political activity .

        This was in an age of more poverty but more sense and was designed so that one side couldn`t march one day in the streets and the next day the other lot could . Then on the third day both marched and battled in our streets .

        Aliens actually did make political activities , but it was in a more nuanced way – explaining and persuading , not agitating and intimidating .

        I`ll say one thing about the Kindergarten refugees . All with one exception settled here , were peaceful and GRATEFUL for their chance to live here .


    • Up2snuff says:

      Nibor, yes it is hard not to be sympathetic to the plight of many who live in Gaza. But yes, but no, they chose to have Hamas rule over them. If I recall correctly, there were elections. As to propriety of those elections I know not. In addition, they knew when they chose to have Hamas rule them that they would then find it difficult to find a new home in the West Bank as that is majority Fatah/PA ruled. Finally, the ordinary people of Gaza have been ripped off by their leaders over the years.

      The people of Gaza could have been part of a greater Israel but they listened to their leaders and, in addition, Israel was pressured by the ‘international community’ to leave Gaza. This they did in 2005. The building of new settlements for Israelis would, I think have led to building homes for the ordinary people of Gaza and would have led to jobs for all and greater prosperity.


  30. Dickie says:

    The fat warmongering slob would fit in well with the corrupt neocons in Washington. Hows it all going in Ukraine then Boris?


    Oh dear



    • tomo says:

      Express Newspapers are a Reach plc brand. =The Daily Mirror imagining what a competitor to The Daily Mail should look like?

      As for Boris … according to an assortment of articles this week – he doesn’t wear the trousers in his own house – the presumption of the lady and what looks like the spinelessness of her older partner is not a good look.


  31. SillyGrandad says:

    The disgraceful bias of the BBC coverage of Israel/Gaza is not in any way surprising given their history of “unbiased” coverage.

    They support ANYTHING that us normal, tax paying, hardworking, law abiding English see as totally and incompressibly wrong. Be it BLM, gays, anti Trump, illegal immigration (which it ALL is), anti Tory not to mention our Christian values.

    The people living in Gaza have had donkeys years to leave if they don’t like Hamas so as far as I’m concerned they are complicit in Hamas and deserve what Israel is doing and will do to Gaza. Israel hit the nail on the head offering to reopen the borders if all the hostages (taken during Hamas’ own disgusting attack) are returned, which would have stopped Israel from giving them the kicking they are about to receive. If I was Israeli I would EXPECT my country to defend itself as it is now and punishing the animals who came into Israel and committed the barbarous acts they did.

    And for the record I’m not Jewish or have any links to Israel. I’m just a normal, tax paying, hardworking, law abiding Englishman getting more and more frustrated every day with the demise of our country while the likes of the BBC are crying tears over Gaza. Ridiculous!

    Ooops. Not what the BBC gives a toss about!!!


  32. Fedup2 says:

    The DT has published a letter from ‘Deborah turness?’ Head of BBC news to her staff about Gaza – im putting up the bit about language below –

    Our use of language

    The BBC’s coverage leaves our audiences in no doubt as to the depth of the horror that took place in Israel on Saturday. Our correspondents have visited the scene of massacres, murders, atrocities and potential war crimes and reported on the harrowing scenes they have witnessed. While on the ground in Gaza our teams have reported on the unfolding humanitarian crisis, as rockets destroy buildings and power and water supplies are cut. We have done what we do best: to work without fear or favour and to report what we see.

    I am so proud of our journalism. Nothing should distract from the important work we are doing. I know from those of you who have contacted me that it is therefore uncomfortable to find ourselves at the centre of a public debate about the BBC’s longstanding editorial policy.

    First, it’s really important to stress that the BBC – along with many other reputable UK and global news organisations – does use the word “terrorist” to describe the perpetrators of these atrocities, but we attribute it to those who use it. All throughout our coverage we have told audiences that Hamas is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by the UK and many other governments. This use of attribution around the word terrorist has been the BBC’s policy for decades.

    The BBC earns the trust of its audiences around the world by reporting the facts, by describing what we see, and remaining objective. Our editorial guidelines are clear that it is not for us to declare any group as terrorists, it is for us to report when others do. And I repeat – this is standard practice for many of the world’s most reputable news organisations – including some that I have led in the UK, in Europe and in the United States.

    That’s because the term terrorist is politicised and used as a weapon in wars. If news organisations decide to use the term to describe one side in a long running conflict, what then happens when the other side point to alleged atrocities and demand we do the same?

    It’s not our job or our role and it never has been. And that can be really hard when we’re faced with the kinds of atrocities we have seen – the murder of children and young people – the kidnapping of mothers, babies and elderly people. Our hearts go out to them and their loved ones, and we dedicate ourselves to telling their stories so the whole world will know what happened to them.

    John Simpson wrote a blog earlier in the week to explain that this policy also protects our journalists and enables them to go into conflict zones and be trusted by both sides. It is often said that “journalism is the first rough draft of history”. If we are perceived to take sides in any war, it will no longer be safe for us to operate in hostile environments and to witness firsthand what is happening. Here’s what John wrote…

    “And it’s always been like this in the BBC. During the Second World War BBC broadcasters were expressly told not to call the Nazis ‘evil’ or ‘wicked’, even though we could and did call them ‘the enemy’. ‘Above all,’ said a BBC document about all this, ‘there must be no room for ranting’ – meaning that our tone had to be calm and collected. It was hard to keep that principle going when the IRA was bombing Britain and killing innocent civilians, but we did. There was huge pressure from the government of Margaret Thatcher on the BBC, and on individual reporters like me about this, especially after the Brighton bombing where she just escaped death and so many other innocent people were killed and injured. But we held the line. And we still do, to this day”.

    His blog concludes “That’s why people in Britain and right round the world, in huge numbers, watch, read and listen to what we say, every day”. (The full version is here).

    It is because BBC News matters so much that the words we use – and don’t use – also matter. Our audiences turn to us for clarity in a chaotic world, to help them separate fact from fake. And we are proud to serve them. And part of serving is listening and being responsive. So we will meet with those who have questions about our editorial guidelines to better understand their concerns and explain the fundamental principles that sit behind them.


    This woman is clearly deluded – and shows the mindset that the BBC isn’t British – and doesn’t see itself as British … which so many of us writing on this site repeat daily ….there must be a cost …


    • Doublethinker says:

      The British Broadcasting Company . Perhaps all those foreigners that the BBC believes trust and look to it to provide accurate , impartial news , may actually believe that due to the inclusion of British in its title it actually speaks on behalf of the British people and represents their ( our) views.
      Of course nothing could be further from the truth, even though the dwindling number of Brits who continue to pay the License Fee fund it. Therefore, I feel that the BBC must be forced to include a disclaimer before every programme to the effect that the views expressed in its programmes are not those of the British people. This disclaimer must be prominent and last for a good period of time.
      As an alternative the BBC could become a subscription only channel and remove the word British from its title.


  33. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – through gritted teeth

    Mishal is back on the subject of Israel, Hamas and Gaza and I detect that she may have been humiliated a little by OFCOM as she had to make a statement about Hamas that I detect came through gritted teeth but was only a partial climbdown from Mishal’s hectoring of Grant Shapps yesterday. Time for Mishal Husain to be door-stepped by some journalists asking “When are you going to resign?” and “Have you resigned yet?” and “Will you resign?”

    What did Deborah Turness have to say to her staff, Fed?

    Aah, I see it has been added. Thanks, Fed.

    This is a downright lie and I quote M/s Turness: “All throughout our coverage we have told audiences that Hamas is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by the UK and many other governments. This use of attribution around the word terrorist has been the BBC’s policy for decades.”


  34. tomo says:


  35. Dickie says:

    In 2013, James Corbett, host of The Corbett Report, went through the then-current history of the BBC. Specifically, the lowlights of the BBC as a propaganda, deep-state, quasi-journalistic institution.

    Yesterday, Corbett reshared his exposé of the BBC from 2013. “It’s good to refresh our memory about this,” he said.



  36. Fedup2 says:

    Hey – what about that – thr Australian Wokes have lost their referendum to give the abo s more ‘rights ‘… nice to know the ausssies still have sense

    And it seems NZ has dumped the governing Labour Party — sober in BBC HQ – all it takes is for the poles to vote for nationhood tomorrow ….


    • Dickie says:

      Jacinda Ardern skipped NZ in time then. She’ll have to find a new saddle to fit her back. Then again all these globalist puppets just move on to pastures new.


    • Scroblene says:

      Tomorrow will be a day of shite when the various hordes descend on London, and presumably the new spiritual homes of all the illegals ooop North.

      I dread the news, so will, of course, avoid the BBC and find out what carnage all these enrichers have brought to the UK.


  37. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – (B)BC becomes ABC

    Do I recall it is correct to say that Australia has no indigenous peoples and all in that land are immigrants from elsewhere?


  38. Fedup2 says:

    Front of the BBC HQ hit with red paint – overnight … wonder if it’s a ‘hate crime ‘ – ? Will the BBC release the video ?


  39. vlad says:

    Yesterday, a Russian muslim killed a Frenchman in France.

    Last week, a whole bunch of Palestinian muslims killed a whole lot of Israelis.

    In the last month, Filipino muslims, Afghan muslims, Yemeni muslims, Lebanese muslims, Ugandan muslims, Egyptian muslims, Pakistani muslims, Syrian muslims, Bangladeshi muslims, Sudanese muslims, Nigerian muslims, Turkish muslims, Saudi muslims, Iraqi muslims, Malian muslims, Kenyan muslims, Mozambique muslims, Burkina Faso muslims, Niger muslims, Ghanaian muslims, have all murdered Christians, Jews and assorted infidels.

    In past years, British muslims, French muslims, Belgian muslims, Dutch muslims, German muslims, Swedish muslims, American muslims, Thai muslims, Indonesian muslims, Malaysian muslims, Moroccan muslims, Algerian muslims, Tunisian muslims, Canadian muslims, Italian muslims, Spanish muslims, Australian muslims etc have stabbed, shot, rammed, beheaded, bombed and maimed hundreds of thousands throughout the world.

    If only there was some common denominator that would help us understand what’s behind all those senseless murders.

    We know it’s not religion because the BBC tells us so.

    Perhaps they all have territorial disputes?



    • Zelazek says:

      Vlad, great post.

      This is what the media and our imbecilic political class just cannot or will not acknowledge: Islam’s essential ideology is violent jihad and the subjugation of non-Muslims.

      Its adherents should never have been allowed into Europe. If we allow them to keep on coming here in huge numbers, we are doomed. Europe’s only hope is to expel all Muslims from the continent. It’s been done before. Spain expelled the Muslims from their country in the Middle Ages.

      I hope Hamas is utterly annihilated. But as long as there are Muslims in the world, there will always be jihadis and terror groups. Our politicians always lie about who jihadis are. Jihadis are not misinterpreters of Islam, they are the faithful followers of what the Koran explicitly tells them to do. There is no “true” or “peaceful” Islam which jihadis have twisted for their own nefarious ends.

      There is no way of defeating our enemy without eradicating his religion.

      Islam Must Be Destroyed.


      • vlad says:

        @Zelazek – “Islam’s essential ideology is violent jihad and the subjugation of non-Muslims.”

        The extraordinary thing is how our media / politicians / academics / opinion formers refuse to see it. Muslims don’t even hide it. It’s in the scriptures, black and white: the Quran, the Hadith and Sira are all replete with calls to violence. Our history books and newspapers are full of the consequences of that ideology. It takes a particular sort of wilful ignorance not to see the stark, staring obvious.

        PS. Whenever the slippery BBC or slimy politicians like Obama quote a peaceful verse from the Quran, it must be remembered that the so-called peaceful verses are from the earlier, Meccan period, when the warlord was weak and sought alliances and compromise.
        Once the caravan-robber was strong in Medina, the tone changes to one of conquest and violence.
        Worse still, the principle of abrogation means that the later (violent) surah supersede the earlier ones.
        The ultimate aim and duty of muslims is nothing less than world conquest.


    • Doublethinker says:



  40. tomo says:

    I do not trust the BBC to report honestly.

    Am I being unreasonable in expecting the BBC to report on the identity of the people firing on the civilian peeps evacuating from northern Gaza?


    Not saying the Israelis didn’t do it to hurry along the “convoy” – but also not saying Hamas wouldn’t attempt to dissuade anybody attempting to get out of Dodge?


    • vlad says:

      Hamas and Hezbollah are notorious for using their own populations as human shields, and preventing them moving out of harm’s way.


      • Guest Who says:

        Ah, but, now things are looking iffy after the surprise genocide and kidnapping, BBC are finding sources who say to ‘find ways’.


        When some older Labour folk were shipped off to safety even at the height of the blitz, the Nazis were keeping the kids in uniforms and handing them Panzerfausts.

        Hamas is more a dress casual human meat grinder outfit.


    • tomo says:

      On R4 at 14:45 = “airstrike” – still called a “strike” on a later web update.

      I see that the designated evacuation routes and the location of the airstrike are only now updated on a map – after the Israeli declared deadline had elapsed.


      One might think that the Israelis published a map at the same time as the evacuation zones and humanitarian corridors were declared – but the BBC manages to show us a map *after* the deadline had elapsed. Call me harsh – but I feel that that is irresponsible.

      Now 11 named Beeboids in theatre.


  41. Eddy Booth says:

    “Pro-Palestinian rally under way in central London”



    “A sizeable crowd has built up outside the BBC’s Broadcasting House in central London for a march by pro-Palestinian protesters.
    The demonstration – which will make its way to Whitehall”

    Might as well start from their spiritual home..


    • Fedup2 says:

      What a target …


    • Guest Who says:

      Pro-Palestinian protests take place across UK

      Comments could not be going much worse, especially on subbing.

      The BBC is done.


    • Doublethinker says:

      Telegraph front page this morning had a story about the police bracing for pro Palestinian protests. They were expecting tens of thousands and warned that they would not tolerate and celebration of terrorism and death. So far so good.
      The article goes on ‘ police sources said that they were most concerned about Right wing and nationalist groups seeking to provoke Palestine supporters.’
      There is no further mention of the right wing or nationalists in the article.

      What are we to make of the concerns of the police? Are they worried that these ‘Right wingers and nationalists ‘ are:
      a) Provoking the pro Palestinian demonstrators because they oppose Hamas and the Palestinian cause
      b) Provoking them because the too support Palestine and want more violence on the streets of London
      c) Holding counter demonstrations in support of Israel and its right to respond to terror
      d) just objecting to the Islamic invasion of the UK in general
      e) just using the phrase so that they can blame the violence on the right nationalists

      The rest of the article mentions Islamic terror attacks in France yesterday and that the Jews of London were fearful of such attacks. So it appears that the fear of violence and backlash is from the supporters of Palestine and Islamists, not from the ‘right wingers and nationalists’ but the police don’t seem able to actually say that , instead blaming the mythical battalions of right wing nationalistic storm troopers that exist in large numbers throughout our country.

      In my view this is as pusillanimous as the BBC reusing to call Hamas terrorists.


      • G says:

        Could this be the UK’s duplication of day to day affairs in the middle east? War, rioting, killing etc. It wouldn’t take much to set them off and the police will not be able to handle it. Shame it starts at the BBC not No.10.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Eddy and Fed, the building in left foreground is All Souls, Langham Place. The BBC are up an alley off Riding House Street which exits into Langham Place beyond All Souls. It is time the BBC were up an alley, or dead end road without the Licence Fee, after their and Mishal Husain’s shameful week.


  42. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – ah but, yes but, no but ….

    Cannot remember who it was, think it was Amol, who spent a while on considering the evidence of the past week to the Covid Enquiry. The word Lockdown was used a lot but I seem to recall that we did not have a complete Lockdown in the UK and that air passengers were allowed in and out of the country at will. Someone on this site, sorry cannot now remember who, would periodically monitor inward, outgoing and transit flights and report the number of passengers carried.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I think it was stew …. But I remember watching those long hauls coming in from across the planet- and no screening of arrivals at all ….

      I’ve said here before if you think the government / civil service is full of clever people you are very very wrong … I’ve witnessed various departments at close hand and often wondered where the smart guys were – the hierarchy was also oppressive ….


  43. JohnC says:

    Soldiers or civilians are all enemies – ex-Hamas leader

    Only on the BBC : an interview with an ex-Hamas leader giving him a soapbox to justify terrorist attacks.

    ‘When asked about the Hamas militants’ attacks on civilians, children and the elderly, he said: “We kept telling them not to do that. But in war times, these incidents can happen. Isn’t it what Israel always says, that they didn’t do it [kill civilians] on purpose?”‘

    The difference is that when Israel do it, it is NOT on purpose. Granted they may not care too much if it happens, but it is not deliberate.

    Allowing such comparisons to be made then publishing them on the BBC news front page is absolutely disgusting.

    Then we get:
    ‘Strike on civilian convoy fleeing Gaza: What the video shows’

    ‘Video shows civilian convoy with more than 30 people near to strike’

    This has Hamas written all over it. First they want to stop people fleeing and second I don’t believe for one minute Israel would target that vehicle unless they thought it had terrorists on it.

    Of course neither possibility will be suggested by the BBC. They are far, far more interested in dead children. And when that happens, they are trying to divert you from considering WHY it happened.


  44. JohnC says:

    Israel-Palestine latest news: Hizbollah ‘have their fingers on the trigger to shoot’, says Iran

    For some reason the BBC aren’t reporting this:

    “I want to warn the war criminals and those who support this entity before it’s too late to stop the crimes against civilians in Gaza, because it might be too late in a few hours,” he added.

    He said that he will be contacting UN officials in the Middle East because “there is still an opportunity to work on an initiative (to end the war) but it might be too late tomorrow.”

    “Any step the resistance (Hizbollah) will take will cause a huge earthquake in the Zionist entity.”

    Have Iran given Hezbollah a tactical nuclear device ?.

    Now we understand why the USA have sent their carrier group to the region.

    Joe is doing an excellent job during his watch. Afghanistan turned into a blood-bath when he overruled the generals for the withdrawal, Russia got pushed far enough to invade Ukraine and now the Middle East is going up in flames.

    And he’s being given a free-pass for all of them.

    And don’t forget, the MSM told us Trump would start WW3.


  45. Sluff says:

    Just Stop Oil (orange)
    Black Lives Matter ( errr, black)
    LGBTQXYZ (colours of rainbow, also used by our NHS heroes)
    Pro Palestinian demos (green, red, black, white)

    Have the left nationalised the colour palette?


  46. Sluff says:

    Is it just me, or is the Covid enquiry ( 3 years FFS) the biggest ever wise-after-the-event waste of taxpayers money.

    I’m sorry but testimony from a relative of someone who has died is so often not evidence as such but emoting. Of minimal insight or analysis. And OK Boris and the blob were not up to the task, but who would have unerringly made the ‘right’ decisions 100% of the time when faced with a problem of such rarity and magnitude, and with all the usual politicking, posturing, and positioning. Few opposed the lockdowns at the time of 1000 a day deaths, the impact on schoolchildren had no airtime whatever at the time yet the children’s commissioner is now wailing about it. And let us remember before it is swept under the carpet, that Labour, LibDems and SNP, all wanted to keep the lockdowns going (one life is one too many) when Boris finally decided to re-open society.
    Still, another excellent job creation scheme for the public sector. Does the enquiry budget include the future pension liabilities of the participants? No, I thought not.


    • Dickie says:

      The Covid enquiry is not a wise after the event waste. It is a whitewash to protect the guilty as is every other public enquiry. Lessons of course will be learnt.


      • moggiemoo says:

        Lessons may well be learnt but not by the people who need to learn them. I am sick of learning the same lesson again and again while the people responsible for the lesson being needed in the first place merrily carry on screwing up everything they touch.


        • Scroblene says:

          Perfect description Mogs!

          I thought that paying our politicians to do their jobs was because they should have already learned their ‘craft’, not spend their bloated money and expenses on finding out what to do when they haven’t a clue!

          Mind you, some people still pay the TV tax for the same reason…


  47. tomo says:



    • Doublethinker says:

      Sadly there are far more Muslims from Pakistan resident in this country than there are Palestinians in total. They are all potential flag eaters. We are sat on top of a volcano that could erupt at anytime and there will be much carnage when it does.
      All of this due entirely to our political ‘leadership’ over the past fifty years.


    • JohnC says:

      Just look at them fanatics.

      They are more like animals than human beings. Are we supposed to take them as people we can reason with ?.


  48. tomo says:

    Shamima Begum f’d up: she should have joined Hamas rather than ISIS, she’d be on a Labour shortlist by now.



    • moggiemoo says:

      I’d sooner have her than Starmer, at least you know where you stand with the treacherous enemy of the state. Begum, that is.