Midweek 19th June 2024

Reform has published its ‘ contract . ( previously known as a manifesto ) . The contract includes an end the the BBC licence Tax. As so many respond to it on twitter ‘what’s not to like ‘ . So tell your family – friends – pets … VOTE REFORM

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304 Responses to Midweek 19th June 2024

  1. Loobyloo says:

    Relevance – bet the BBC never discuss how immigrants are vetted for jobs here, especially in sensitive sectors like the care and health industry. So how are Abdul and Ahmed going to be properly checked like we have to be? How many have the same name, and no fixed address to trace records, not to mention any history from abroad. Some industries here require a fingerprint check if you’ve lived abroad…do you think they’re ever asked for that?
    Clearly the NHS don’t have the time or resources to properly check their staff CVs, and of course it would be racist to do so.



    • Fedup2 says:

      Looby – and it’s likely that the people doing the ‘vetting ‘ are of the third world too …bit like the characteristic jobs worths who find themselves in HR because they are no good at anything useful ..


    • StewGreen says:

      Management are the baddies
      They put patients lives at risk
      She herself is a Walter Mitty psycho case
      Her CV was so over the top a child could have spotted it was pile of lies


  2. Fedup2 says:

    Policing ministers’ wife reported to CPS for corporate espionage and data protection offences – in a general election campaign –
    It just keeps getting worse ( I won’t mention the PM police protection officer suspended over dodgy betting on the election date )

    Vote Reform


    • MarkyMark says:

      HA HA HAHA! We have plenty further to go …

      Berlin, Germany 2016
      Arrested German spy was a onetime gay porn actor — and a secret Islamist {washingtonpost nov2016}
      “BERLIN — Two weeks ago, German intelligence agents noticed an unusual user in a chat room known as a digital hideout for Islamic militants. The man claimed to be one of them — and said he was a German spy. He was offering to help Islamists infiltrate his agency’s (In April 2016, the man began working for the BfV, assigned to monitoring potentially violent Islamists in Germany.) defenses to stage a strike.

      Agents lured him into a private chat, and he gave away so many details about the spy agency — and his own directives within it to thwart Islamists — that they quickly identified him, arresting the 51-year-old the next day. Only then would the extent of his double life become clear.



  3. Flotsam says:

    I listened to John Swinney, the SNP leader’s election speech today. What a revolting and divisive person he is. The main thrust of his address throughout was to push Scottish independence. His speech was an election speech but he obviously doesn’t believe in elections because there was a referendum on Scottish independence which the SNP lost. Other than that his speech was the usual socialist clap trap, basically, spend more of our money on all aspects of the Scottish public sector. This included the Scottish NHS which spends more per person than the English NHS for poorer outcomes. A constant theme, mentioned many times, was attacks on “Westminster” which to me is code for the English. Of course he had a go at Brexit which they hadn’t voted for and England did, another election remember. He wants Scotland to rejoin the EU presumably to be under their jackboot rather than the English one.
    Swinney represents the worst of Scottish politics.


  4. Docmarooned says:

    Feel sorry for you Flotsam that you had to endure any utterance from that ignorant halfwit Swinney. He really is a one trick cretin.


  5. MarkyMark says:

    SMall boats! BIG PARTIES! H AH AH AHAH A



    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Hands up anyone who plans to watch that shower of shit.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I thought they’d added Nigel Farage to it – why the Scottish bloke is there – I have no idea ….

        Won’t be watching anyway ….


  6. atlas_shrugged says:

    The A1 twat who was our justice secretary has suddenly decided that the 29,000 people given covid fines and criminal records because of the uniparty lockup rules should now be given an amnesty.

    Maybe he should have thought of that before introducing the cretinous statutory instrument that caused all these problems:



  7. Up2snuff says:

    A rather flat chested looking Emily Maitlis, late of the BBC, writing in the i newspaper today blames Nigel Farage for breaking Britain. Considering that Nigel Farage has never been a MP let alone in Government, I assume Em is refering to the EU and Brexit. Is Emily a Conservative?!!!



    • Scroblene says:

      Ha ha ha!

      The silly bitch is yet another nobody outside the protection from the beeboid trashettes!

      Stupid cow doesn’t realise she’s such a loser, but who is…

      …ex-beeboid sock puppet!


    • StewGreen says:

      Projection is a libmob characteristic
      So who actually is breaking Britain ?

      Are not Maitliss and her gang divisive bullies ?

      Saying “Tories and Reform are unclean, scum, they are second class citizens” etc


    • JohnC says:

      She unwittingly shows us her typical hard-left fascist nature with that statement.

      All Farage did was let the people decide. The Left don’t like that at all. They think they are intellectually superior and should decide for everybody else. Like Hitler did.

      Which makes me laugh because as a rule, these people can’t even check the oil in their car. Their perfect world only exists in their own head. If they get a chance to make it reality, it utterly fails.

      She is a truly nasty and spiteful individual.


  8. JohnC says:

    China changed village names ‘to erase Uyghur culture’

    ‘China has changed the names of hundreds of villages in Xinjiang region in a move aimed at erasing Uyghur Muslim culture, Human Rights Watch (HRW) says.’
    What an utterly ridiculous claim which the BBC see fit to repeat multiple times in this article.
    According to Human Rights Watch – who are as far Left as the UN and are similarly totally selective about who’s ‘rights’ they defend – changing 630 village names out of 25,000 to remove some specific religious Muslim references is attempting to ‘erase Muslim culture’ !!.
    Why ? – is that all their culture is ?.

    Well done China : protect yourselves against Muslim attempts to gradually displace you. All it will lead to is them eventually trying to change those places to Muslim-only and ruled by Islam.

    I’ve come across HRW a few times now they are are ALWAYS pushing the far-Left agenda. They NEVER start shouting about abuses of anyone not on the Left’s ‘approved victims’ list.

    What a truly pathetic, 100% agenda article by the BBC.

    No articles on how the Muslims themselves treat others for us BBC ?. No ‘disgust’ at their mysogyny for us ?. Or their homophobia ?. Or how Hamas are deliberately causing the slaughter of women and children ?.

    No. Thought not.

    Here’s what wrote it. Exactly what we have come to expect.

    What a world. All public organisations are now infested by Leftist activist parasites.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Amazon book …

      ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE Paperback – 24 Sept. 2022
      by Abdur-Rahman Abdul-Kareem Al-Sheha (Author), Abu Salman Deya-ud-Deen Eberle (Translator)
      See all formats and editions
      “Terrorism” is of two kinds: terrorism that is evil based upon wicked tyrannical acts, and terrorism that is good and desired based on necessary and justified acts. The terrorism that is evil is injustice, double standards, tyranny, and aggression, in all the hateful connotations that these words imply. It targets women and children, civilians and noncombatants, trying to force defeat and difficult political decisions by spreading terror. This kind is what most people immediately think about when hearing the word terrorism.

      The terrorism that is desired and based on necessary and justified acts is enforcing the rule of just laws, providing fair punishments commensurate to the crimes committed, and preparing and defending against attacks, aggression, and corruption. It is used against the criminal evildoers themselves, and never targets women, children and noncombatants.


  9. andyjsnape says:

    Good morning all

    When I look at peoples comments on here, and I hit the like button,
    why can I only hit the like button once. In the upcoming election we can do postal votes several times, just saying, its not fair 🙂


  10. AsISeeIt says:

    Are you looking forward to the Paris Olympics – coming hot on the heels of the football Euro 2024s? Do you still avidly follow your native country’s exploits in international sport? Do you say “yah boo sucks” to the likes of that scornful Emily Thornberry and still wave your national flag in support of our boys and girls?

    The cricket test

    The US is the surprise team of the T20 World Cup after beating 2022 finalists Pakistan and narrowly losing to titans India. Its efforts secured a place in the final eight of the tournament, for which the team qualified as co-hosts with the West Indies. Dubbed the ‘H1-B squad’ after the US visa scheme, the team hails largely from India, Pakistan and the Caribbean, places where many had early cricket careers before being lured to economic opportunities in the US (Financial Times)

    Go USA!

    They do say limited over cricket is just souped-up rounders – which is basically baseball.

    Of course you may have noticed how the Scots soccer team isn’t particularly… what’s the word…? Diverse. There’s still many a Mc, a Gordon and a Robertson in the squad. Dare one say it’s still a tad too… “Why-hhhhtttt!” [TM Humza Yousaf]

    Euro 2024… Scots give themselves a fighting chance (‘i’); Scotland the brave… McTominay keeps Scottish Euro hopes alive (Telegraph); Scotland wrestled free from the shackles of injury and self destruction to muster a precious point against Switzerland to keep their Euro 2024 campaign alive (BBC) – perhaps there’s a metaphor in there somewhere

    With reference to the fun we have with flags these days and speaking of Scots football fans – sometimes these segueways write themselves

    Rod Stewart defends support for Ukraine after jeers (BBC) – oh dear, do the crowd perhaps… think it’s all over? To coin a phrase.

    Ukraine could face defeat in 2024. Here’s how that might look (BBC, April 2024, Frank Gardner, security correspondent)

    I Don’t Want to Talk About It

    Sir Rod Stewart has defended his support of Ukraine, after he was apparently booed at a concert in Germany on Friday night… the Ukrainian flag appeared on a video screen, followed by an image of President Volodymyr Zelensky… Both applause and jeers could be heard from fans… “I have supported the Ukrainian people throughout this war,” he told PA news agency (BBC)

    Well at least Rod’s been consistent then. The Rishi lackey loyalist Daily Express proudly raised the old yellow and blue on their masthead with the slogan ‘United with the people of Ukraine’ for a few heady months – then dropped it like a hot brick.

    Are ordinary europeans getting a bit war weary? Or can we blame their apparent desire for a ceasefire on the eastern front on other causes?

    Something rotten in the state of Saxony?

    Sir Rod was performing… in Leipzig, the most populous city in Germany’s central state of Saxony. The state has embraced nationalism, electing a mayor from the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) in December. There has also been neo-Nazi violence and attacks on migrants in Saxony. (Tiffany Wertheimer, BBC News, reporting from London)

    Can we get a Russia conspiracy theory to go with that far-right aspersion and dark reference to the mid-twentieth century Germans – for a full-house, right royal flush, BBC?

    German far-right MP ‘could be absolutely controlled by Russia’ (By Gabriel Gatehouse BBC Newsnight, April 2019)

    Mr AsI contends that the formerly serious Times of London newspaper has gone all limp and lefty.

    He habitually accuses the title of being a Keir Starmer bromancer.

    Let’s compare and contrast how the Times treats the big new Just Stop Oil contrived frontpage photo op.

    Offence archaeology

    Monumental stupidy – huffs the Daily Mail: Two Just Stop Oil climate protesters spray orange paint powder at Stonehenge yesterday… Is nothing sacred to the eco clowns?

    Just lock them up! – exclaims the Express: Pathetic eco-zealots should “face the full force of the law” after Stonehenge was attacked in what Rishi Sunak deplored as “disgraceful act of vandalism” – perhaps Rishi ought to have gotten around to just stopping Just Stop Oil at some point prior to his becoming the lame duck?

    And the Times: Paint misbehaving – just me or is that putting it rather mildly? Not for our liberal Times the righteous conservative outrage of the Mail or the Express.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Ah yes – the bbc and the olympics – lots of coloured folk who can run fast celebrating coming 4th…

      Insane false national pride –


  11. Fedup2 says:

    Comrade Robinson sounding so ‘up’ these days . He knows he and the BBC have contributed to the coming red victory . All down hill after that .

    The reds want ‘ growth ‘ . I think the definition of ‘growth ‘ is about to change .
    If covid has given millions of people the excuse not to work – either having ‘mental issues ‘ , loafing at home or otherwise being on the benefits train where will ‘ growth ‘ come from ? More people being imported ?

    The BBC doesnt talk about the population explosion . It never links failing services on over whelming demand / caused by tory uncontrolled immigration

    The only one to do so is Reform and Nigel Farage

    Vote reform . My vote is in the post . I thought about writing to my blue MP but he doesnt deserve an explanation


  12. Fedup2 says:

    Today 2
    Amol down the road from me in the nam – dagenham . Usual stuff – cost of housing ( no mention of population) but kids not wanting to work and prefering the social – wow – got a mention…

    At least we know that the reds are coming and up go the taxes …

    Apparently the best thing that has improvec is socialising – which sums stuff up really ..

    Vacuous – pee poor tick box stuff


  13. andyjsnape says:

    bbc wants the book thrown at England fans

    England fans’ behaviour under scrutiny over chant

    Apparently singing isn’t a criminal offence bbc!


    • MarkyMark says:

      “So why does it still happen, will it continue to be sung and what can be done?”

      what can be done ….. “Clapping replaced with jazz hands: Where did the action come from and what other alternatives are there?
      It’s the British Sign Language action for applause Rachel Hosie Wednesday 03 October 2018 13:11 BST


  14. MarkyMark says:



  15. MarkyMark says:

    NHS election plans unconvincing – health experts


    About the Health Foundation
    We are an independent charitable organisation working to build a healthier UK

    We are funded by an endowment of over £1bn, underpinning our independence and ability to work for the long term. Investing this endowment enables us to spend around £40m per year on improving health and care and means we can operate as an entirely sustainable and independent foundation.


    Prior to these appointments he had a long and distinguished career in the civil service which included senior roles in the Department of Health and NHS Executive, the Cabinet Office and the Home Office. His most recent appointment before joining Guy’s and St Thomas’, was Permanent Secretary at the Department of Health, from which he retired in July 2010.



    The number of employees whose annual remuneration was £60,000 or more were:
    2022 2021
    £60,001–£70,000 33 30
    £70,001–£80,000 15 6
    £80,001–£90,000 11 10
    £90,001–£100,000 5 3
    £100,001–£110,000 4 3
    £110,001–£120,000 4 1
    £120,001–£130,000 – 2
    £130,001–£140,000 2 1
    £150,001–£160,000 1 1
    £160,001–£170,000 1 1
    £170,001–£180,000 1 1
    £180,001–£190,000 – 1
    £190,001–£200,000 1 –
    £250,001–£260,000 – 1
    £260,001–£270,000 1 –


    • tomo says:

      Looks like The Health Foundation adhere to the first rule of First Aid – make sure you’re safe before helping others….

      A blob – they can’t as far as I can see, give a single example of fulfilling their proclaimed aims.


    • tomo says:

      Matt is correct


      • MarkyMark says:

        Whoever you vote for, the Blob wins

        The Blob is people!

        “Stealthily but steadily, almost all real political power has been stripped from elected councillors, MPs and even ministers over the past two decades by ‘officials’ and handed to ‘experts’ in quangos, nationalised industries, arms-length bodies and courts.”


        “At the age of 66 I feel like a first-time voter. As a member of the House of Lords, I was not allowed to vote in the last three general elections. But I retired from the House in 2021, so democracy here I come. I shall scan the ballot paper with interest: who is standing”


  16. MarkyMark says:

    BBC NEWS “Ugandan designer ‘depressed’ after dreadlocks cut in jail”

    “In 2017 the BBC filmed Madoi making a single dress in four minutes”


  17. Jeff says:

    I’ve just seen the film of those middle-class yobs from Just Stop Oil, vandalising Stonehenge. The most striking thing was the action taken (or lack of) by the security people. Virtually sweet FA…

    A couple of Japanese tourists did get stuck in…all honour to them…and about a minute later some chubby security woman came slowly lumbering over. Far too little and far too late…

    Stonehenge is a genuine national treasure and once upon a time we were all allowed to wander among these ancient monuments.

    My dad took me there during the summer of 1977. I have photos of us actually touching the stones and I remember standing between two of these massive chunks and my dad saying, “Oi, Jeff be careful. I don’t want you getting your ‘ead stuck.”

    Even in those days the daft, self-righteous middle-classes were desecrating these places with sprayed on CND symbols…it’s directly because of them that we ‘re not allowed such access today. These Just Stop Oil oiks are their grandchildren. They’re well fed, well heeled, know all…know nothings…

    Today is the summer solstice. I’m not sure if it’s true, but legend has it that sacrifices were once made by this monument on this very day to appease the sun god.

    Are you thinking what I’m thinking?


    • tomo says:

      Stonehenge is now a tripper trap akin to the London Eye.

      Hmm… JSO could climb the Eye and douse it with paint – It contributing to planet destroying tourism air travel ?


    • atlas_shrugged says:

      I would be willing to bet these mad marxist vandals did not walk to Stonehenge with their paint.

      Did mummy park the Volvo around the corner?


      • tomo says:

        I’d wager the eco revolutionaries paid the fee to park in English Heritage’s car park too.


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Mummy had to go to Waitrose to buy organic quinoa, free range yoghurt and vegan gluten free tofu. And she was using the diesel-powered Rage Rover rather than the Volvo, as Daddy needed that to take Cressida to the African Drumming Lessons Collective back in Hampstead.


        • Guest Who says:

          ‘Rage Rover’ 😉

          There was a great article (Clarkson?) once about them engaging full mountain mode to mount the pavements slightly closer to the school gates. Before hitting the book club morning Soave to discuss Monbiot’s latest genius.

          There was a community hustings last night. It was like a central casting of a politically incorrect 70s comedy.

          Posh nice but dim incumbent. Tory.

          Local history teacher who didn’t know his history. Lab.

          Young firebrand Limp who is already screwing up the county council and deems Gaza* a unidirectional genocide.

          Old posh Green biddie worried about nothing but ‘climate change’. And… Death to Israelis. Only*

          An embarrassment of a Reform ex para who must have been vetted by his dementia care assistant. Surprised he didn’t bring in his Bren.

          Ponytailed young Wolfie Indy, who had not replied to the invitation to return, but turned up to claim he demanded to speak and be given a place, to howls from half the hall who I have never seen locally ever.

          *Questions were, of course, pre-vetted, in or out. Answers ranged from template to insane.

          Matt Ridley is right.

          Stealthily but steadily, almost all real political power has been stripped from elected councillors, MPs and even ministers over the past two decades by ‘officials’ and handed to ‘experts’ in quangos, nationalised industries, arms-length bodies and courts.

          But it may be just as well. Even a Whelk stall would last a week under any of the above. Handing such detritus £85k to pose around ‘representing’ the noisy twats blockading the constituency office until they cave is an insult to democracy and coherent governance.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      ‘The most striking thing was the action taken (or lack of) by the security people.’

      Just Stop Oil = Licensed opposition. Acting on behalf of the State. Two-tier policing.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Confession – I love a nice bit of honest corruption – but I have no time for the sort with a low rate of return but big consequences when getting found out …. Like knowing when the election is and then betting – say £20 or £100 at – say 10/1 –
        I mean – look at that plod who got caught – career maybe gone – bust in rank – going back to some dismal londonistan borough …ugh
        So I’ve put a bet on the number of tories / plod who made an insider information bet on the election date ….

        But seriously – if these people are so casual in their corruption what else are they doing ?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Solstice – all down hill from here ….


  18. Fedup2 says:

    Apparently outgoing Gove has warned that a ‘forever ‘ government could be elected – but surely it’s just a continuation of the last 12 years …… uni party state with a variation on theme ( tax)

    I’m working on my predictions for the reds

    1 recognise Islamic Hamas state of Palestine
    2 end triple lock
    3 make pensioners pay NI
    4 increase pension age
    5 increase community taxes – with added bands
    6 increase taxes of petrol diesel
    7 end 2 child benefit cap
    8 increase stamp duty over £500k
    9 end non dom ( easy )
    10 start process of rejoining EU
    11 spreading ULEZ
    12 subsume BBC tax into general taxation
    13 hold military spending at current level
    14 slow down capital projects ( nuclear )
    15 freeze tax thresholds until 2030
    16 introduce new upper tax band
    17 increase CGT rate
    18 control internet even more
    19 give away Falklands and over overseas territories
    20 reduce voting age to 16 – no identity proof
    21 legalise cannabis

    It’s all dismal stuff


  19. Fedup2 says:

    Looks like Serbia is starting a world war again – this time they want Croatia / Albania punished because their fans called out ‘Kill kill kill the Serbs ‘
    Personally I’ve heard far worse than that at footy matches – maybe the Serbs are just soft these days …

    Serbia is apparently threatening to leave the Euros – and take the ball with them
    Bye Serbia – you won’t be missed …


    • MarkyMark says:

      How Balkan gangsters became Europe’s top cocaine supplier


      “When we talk about large-scale shipments to supply the European continent, the only group that’s hegemonic is the Balkans,” said Ivo Silva, a Brazilian federal police detective who investigated Kostovski in the late 2000s as part of Operation Niva, one of the first major probes into Balkan cocaine traffickers operating out of Brazil.


  20. Sluff says:

    Biased BBC energy update.
    Readers were quite probably asleep when early this morning on Toady a chap from interviewed from something like the Energy Institute. Well, it was early. And he won’t be on again.

    Here’s the thing. He reported that global energy output reached an all time high last year. Fossil fuels INCREASED by 1.5% thanks to coal and oil in India and China.

    Which makes the eco-fanatics and the slavish adherence to the green agenda of all the parties except Reform look as utterly utterly insane as we know it to be.

    I ‘m not expecting Justin Rowlatt to take this line.


    • MarkyMark says:



    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – this site never sleeps – our huge monitoring operation works round the clock …. I’m sure I heard some idiot say 6 out of 10 electrons come from renewables last year .

      So the green electron has been discovered at last – although there is some uncertainty ( I dun A level physics innit )
      Note too 77 brigade although I suspect you girls have all my stick tickets there … good arnt they ? Even botany …


  21. wwfc says:

    This is your new PM same as the old PM


    • MarkyMark says:

      Sir Keir Starmer’s maiden speech in the Commons

      The first time Keir Starmer spoke in the the House of Commons Chamber as the Labour MP for Holborn and St Pancras (London, England). He was elected to Parliament in May 2015 with a 17,048 (31%) vote majority.


  22. MarkyMark says:

    “Well this has aged like milk hasn’t it!”

    Owen Jones meets Keir Starmer | ‘Brexit is an opportunity for sensible immigration rules’


  23. Fedup2 says:

    Not bbc

    The sad people who monitor crime figures ‘get off ‘ on periods like the Euros where a lot of human activity changes . For instance there may be a cease fire between Turks and the balkans over territory in north londonistan – no drive byes – by order –
    Hiomicide figures may also be affected where tribal supporters come into conflict as if it really matters …

    Personally I will be supporting who ever the woke United are playing and putting a 20p bet on a pen and own goal by the woke United …. As well as their manager getting his knighthood soon ….


    • MarkyMark says:

      “It is growing (gang r*pe culture), there’s no doubt about that. A large amount of the growth in my view is about raised awareness.” – Cressida Dick @1:40 {youtube}


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        ‘A large amount of the growth in my view is about raised awareness’

        Translation: We should stop reporting it and talking about it. If you don’t know about it then it isn’t happening.


  24. Doublethinker says:

    I urge everyone who can to watch Winston Marshall’s recent interview of Matt Goodwin on You Tube. It is a brilliant tour d’horizon of the current world of both British and World politics.
    If you can please watch it.


  25. andyjsnape says:

    Muslim millionaire gives major donation to Reform UK

    Thank you for the donation, Reform gets my vote

    How is it in the bbc world, that a Muslim can say “says mass immigration is straining public services” and this is acceptable.

    But if White & British – this would be racist!

    Towards the bottom of the page/link:-

    Are you ready for the general election on 4 July?
    New laws mean voters need to bring photo ID when voting in person. Which of the following are included in the 22 acceptable forms of voter ID?

    Out of the 3 possible answers the bbc gives, the Student Card is wrong – obviously the bbc wouldn’t want any students from being able to vote


    • MarkyMark says:

      “Muslim millionaire gives major donation to Reform UK”

      UK giver money TO china (a dictatorship and oppressive regime) everyday, and they ignore climate change/heating/cooling.


  26. Terminal Moraine says:

    BBC News Climate and Science —

    “Human-induced climate change made recent extreme heat in the US southwest, Mexico and Central America around 35 times more likely, scientists say […] such a heatwave was now four times more likely than it was in 2000, driven by planet-warming emissions.”

    Once again the BBC go to the World Weather Attribution group for their report. Dig into WWA’s methodology and comments on their own modelling:

    “… we would like to check whether the extremes are caused by the same meteorological mechanisms as in reality. This can involve checking a large number of processes, making it difficult in practice […] Quantitative meteorological checks are still under development (Vautard et al. 2018). It is therefore still possible that the climate models we use generate the right extreme statistics for the wrong reasons.”

    When BBC journalists use ‘scientists say’, they often don’t know or don’t care about the difference between observational data and modelling output, and what this means beyond the tabloid headlines.



    • MarkyMark says:

      100% agree that the statistics might be right – 120% disagree “It is therefore still possible that the climate models we use generate the right extreme statistics for the wrong reasons.”


    • tomo says:

      Deluded or mendacious

      = not much of a choice

      “scientists say”


  27. tomo says:



  28. Eddy Booth says:

    Tenerife search for missing Brit Jay Slater refocuses



    What bbc don’t bother mentioning :
    “Eight thugs who split boy’s head open with machete dodge jail


    “Eight teenagers who brutally attacked another teen with a machete, axe and a golf club have been handed community sentences.
    …further offences including witness intimidation, attempted robbery and conspiracy to supply class A drugs.”


    “Jay Slater,18, (centre ) of Fountains Way, Accrington – 18 month community order with 25 days rehabilitation activities and 150 hours unpaid work.”

    Was 3 years ago, trial only last year
    “Throughout a trial at Preston Crown Court, all eight laughed and joked in a way the judge said showed disrespect.”


    • Flotsam says:

      I’ve wondered , from the outset, if the disappearance is a copy cat of Michael Moseley’s. It would be a good way of generating some attention and cash. His criminal history might give that idea some weight.

      I could be wrong of course, young lads get up to all sorts and can be pretty stupid. If this is genuine I do hope he’s found safe and well and apologise for casting doubt,


      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        I’ve got a son the same age, who also went off for a first holiday alone with friends to Tenerife this year. My son had a great time and came back, sunburnt, but alive and well. I hope this lad does too.

        My thought, and I hope it’s not true, is that he went off with some ‘people he met at a festival’ took some drugs and/or drank too much, and then wandered off, lost, into the night in the early hours and slipped off the road and/or got hit by a car, and ended up in either a ravine, or the sea.

        Having visited Tenerife several times, I recall the area they say he was lost in (Teno Parque) is famous for its high cliffs, many of which fall away directly into the sea, and have spectacular views. The roads there are narrow, and twisty, and usually have a steep drop off on one side. They are quite scary to drive along (let alone walk!), partly because the locals drive like maniacs and don’t pay much attention to which side of the road they’re on. It’s not somewhere you’d want to go walking on your own in the dark, and/or under the influence.

        Playa de las Americas is the beach resort where all the chavs go. It’s the kind of place where if you go for a stroll along the beach after dark you’re likely to stumble over naked bodies, passed out in pools of vomit – you need to step carefully to avoid the human faeces and broken glass.

        I’m confused as to why he should have gone to Teno Parque, it doesn’t seem like somewhere a lad like him, or a bunch of teens at a ‘festival’ would want to go, late at night and in the dark? It just doesn’t make any sense.


        • Eddy Booth says:

          Apparently, according to media, he made friends with two lads from Luton, who were renting an apartment in the mountains, in the village of Masca.
          Went back to theirs for drinks.

          I’ve visited southern Tenerife, El Medano, long time ago , no way are out of town roads walkable.
          To call it a 10 hour walk from the mountains is ridiculous.

          As usual the media is only giving us half the story, or just too dumb to ask real questions.


          • Loobyloo says:

            All sounds a bit dodgy..two lads from Luton renting an apartment in the mountains? Maybe they are into hiking..or they had no idea of scale or map reading..


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Must be another Jay Slater of the same age and from the same town. The one the BBC are talking about is a good boy. Why, even the local West End Methodist church have put up blue ribbons, lovingly shown in their article.


  29. andyjsnape says:

    How to watch the BBC Question Time election special

    “Clive Myrie and Laura Kuenssberg will front the election-night TV coverage” definitely a reason not to watch


  30. Doobster78 says:

    There’s some polls out today that put Reform on 13% and the Tories on 21% .

    Don’t know how they get that but out in the REAL WORLD, I think it’s the other way around. A big surprise of Brexit proportions is coming imo


  31. Sluff says:

    Cynical? Moi?

    Post Office accidentally leaks sub-postmaster data.

    Having a bit of trouble with that word accidental, given the Post Office prosecuted subpostmasters on false premises and then hid the evidence for years, blaming each other and pretending not to know.


    • micknotmike says:

      I think spite is the word you’re looking for Sluffie, although malicious comes close.


  32. MarkyMark says:

    “Only Reform UK will leave the ECHR. Only Reform UK will stop the boats.”

    1 sniper 1 bullet 1 deflated 1 boat on a French beach 1 unhappy Macron.


    Dover MP Natalie Elphicke told the Commons that the BBC’s “shocking report” contained the “breath-taking” disclosure of free French public bus services being used to ferry migrants from camps to Dunkirk beaches.



    1 battle ship 1 patrol 0 boats


    “Only Reform UK will leave the ECHR. Only Reform UK will stop the boats.”


    1 illegal migrant in 2 MPS out – repeat




  33. Docmarooned says:

    I inadvertently caught some of the atrocious bBBC coverage of the tennis snoozefest at Queens. God the fawning commentary is dreadful – totally biased nonsense towards their chosen ones with meaningless drivel and endless close ups of non entities in the crowd. They have droned on and on about Murrays failure due to injury – Christ the guy is a multi-millionaire – as if it is the end of the world. Doubt he ever has to worry about the so called “cost of living”crisis. As usual I will give Wimbledon a wide berth as I cannot stand the crap inflicted on us. Pity – I used to love it years ago in the days of Borg etc.


  34. Jeff says:

    It’s halftime in the England game and the bloody Beeb have brought on a couple of women to bless us with their opinions. FFS, am I the only one?

    Look love, stick a sock in it, put the kettle on and I’ll have my dinner in about an hour….Now pipe down.

    Jeez, these bloody women get everywhere…


  35. Fedup2 says:

    I joked earlier on in this thread that I’d put a bet on the number of corrupt friends of green card who had put a bet on him calling an election and the date .

    It turns out that there was a huge spike the day before the announcement . How any one can still vote Tory is beyond me .

    Vote reform – destroy the Conservative Party …


  36. Sluff says:

    How about this for celebrating diversity and embracing multiculturalism.

    We had a knock at the door. Three Sikhs were asking whether we would be voting. They did not specify which party they supported.

    Here the thing. It was 83 minutes into the England v Denmark game, at 1-1.

    They obviously hadn’t a clue.
    Does embracing other cultures only work in one direction?
    Perhaps SirKeer and the BBC could advise.


  37. Up2snuff says:

    I bet (ho ho!) that the PM, Rishi Sunak, now wishes he had gone for an autumn or winter General Election and kept the date to himself.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m sticking with my theory that his missus made him do it – she wants to go home to California ….( I have no evidence for this at all )

      I can’t think of any sane reason for a GE now ….


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, I am not so sure – I seem to recall Sunak as saying his USA days are over. OTOH, Yorkshire can be a bit chilly thanks to Global Warming and Climate Change and stuff & nonsense like that.


  38. Eddy Booth says:

    ‘Obituary: Donald Sutherland”



    I liked that old film,


  39. Fedup2 says:

    Apparently there is a bbc programme called ‘Mrs browns boys ‘ which millions watch be isn’t funny – and even a senior bbc type has said so . I’ve never seen it but it appears to be a mystery why so many watch it ….

    Perhaps it’s as entertaining as an England v Denmark footy game ….
    The euros are tedious ….


  40. MarkyMark says:

    882 in one day…


  41. pugnazious says:

    ‘If someone uses confidential information to gain an unfair advantage when betting, this could be a criminal offence under section 42 of the Gambling Act. ‘

    What if someone with inside knowledge at the Gambling Commission were to leak information bout investigations to Journalists at the BBC in order to influence the outcome of an election…would both they and the BBC, which knowingly broadcast these claims uderstanding their political ‘value’, be guilty of trying to rig that election?…the BBC of course having so any other little tricks up its sleeves to sway voters…such as the programme yesterday that slated maternity care in the NHS…no blatant connection to the Tories by the presenters…but of course we all know and the idea was helped along by a doctor telling us it’s all because of the last 10 years. A highly political programme about a very incendiary issue but all done as if nothing political at all.


    • Fedup2 says:

      It’s right to me to publish details of swamp members benefitting from inside information in such circumstances . Perhaps it might matter more if the blue party stood a chance of power – but they don’t –
      However if the quango leaked that’s not a good thing … but not unusual – the blue regime allowed these outfits to be run by reds – including notably – BBCOFCOM


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, what I don’t understand is that the ‘insiders’ were betting on the date and not the Tories to win!


  42. MarkyMark says:

    Tony Blair responds to an angry activist at a Labour Party Conference


  43. MarkyMark says:

    ‘Shocking situation’: Douglas Murray on the election ‘wipeout’ facing UK Conservatives

    . . . . . . ..

    Fri 13 Dec 2019 17.21 GMT

    Johnson’s Conservatives captured 364 of the 650 seats in the House of Commons with all bar one seat counted, a comfortable majority of 74 and the party’s best showing in a parliamentary election since Margaret Thatcher triumphed in 1987.

    He addressed the nation just after 7am in London, saying Brexit was now the “irrefutable, irresistible, unarguable decision of the British people” and promising those who lent their vote to the Tories in traditional Labour areas: “I will not let you down.”



  44. MarkyMark says:

    Tony had to explain this to our new leader… HA H AH HAHA

    “Starmer says he believes Blair that men have penises and women have vaginas in biology.”

    “Trans question: What do you believe now on gender? Starmer says he believes Blair that men have penises and women have vaginas in biology. He will give respect to everyone. He was worried when he attacked Duffield about the state of the debate. Attacks Sunak for making trans joke in Parliament.”

    order-order on BBC Question time


  45. StewGreen says:

    Jim Dale the Climate Fail has an opinion about Farage
    .. Is it a popular opinion ?

    It’s been up 2 hours and has Zero Likes


  46. StewGreen says:



    • StewGreen says:

      Mind you Caroline Lucas also got 29,000 Likes
      for her response to the Tory election video that says Labour will roll out the red carpet for Dinghy Divers

      his is so disgusting. Imagine the mindset that made this. People are dying.
      Afraid. Exploited and desperate.
      The Tories now chasing Reform to the very hard right and it’s sickening.
      Just when you think they couldn’t sink any lower …

      FFS France is a safe country !


      • tomo says:

        Caroline Lucas is a really ignorant, censorious harridan.

        She’s promoted by Twitter UK


  47. tomo says:


  48. StewGreen says:

    Farage on the XR GreenSupremacist cult factions like Just Stop Oil

    These people should go to prison.

    It is alarming that many Labour MPs support the aims of this dangerous organisation.

    42,000 Like

    Laurence Fox’s reply to Sunak’s tweet pretending to be against JSO
    Stop pandering to them with your net zero nonsense then.6,700 Likes


  49. StewGreen says:

    London University anti-Israel camp guys look very reasonable on video ….NOT



    • tomo says:

      and yet … the reporting of that – comes from America….

      as they say over there- go figure


    • tomo says:

      I wonder how many are legitimately here and who’s funding them – they seem in lockstep with goons elsewhere – organic grass roots – NOT