The SNP’s Jim Sillars made some astonishing threats to companies that didn’t promote the SNP pro-independence line:

The BBC is biased…in favour of the United Kingdom……

Nationalists brand BBC’s Nick Robinson ‘a liar’ as thousands protest at corporation’s ‘biased’ coverage on referendum

Why?  Because the BBC’s Nick Robinson actually did his job and asked an awkward question…one that Alex Salmond avoided answering…….the spineless Robinson then fell into line and meekly stated that Salmond had answered the question about tax…and note, Robinson has not since gone on to investigate the claims made by Salmond…which is a shame as they bear only a passing resemblance to the truth..but Salmond has Robinson on the run it seems…..

Nick Robinson @bbcnickrobinson  ·  Sep 11

To all tweeting about me saying that @AlexSalmond did not answer me : He DID answer re RBS but did NOT re why trust him not company bosses

In fact Salmond’s ‘answer’ was a masterclass in evasion, bluster and bluff redirecting attention away from the issue and onto Salmond’s favourite subject…the persecution of the poor wee SNP by the bullying English in Westminster….playing the victim card to perfection.

If you watch the video near the end Robinson has to demand the answer again to the question about tax revenues and RBS…so clearly at that time he felt Salmond had not answered the question…..

And Robert Peston wonders why Salmond is making such a fuss:

And, to be clear, for all the outrage of Alex Salmond at what he sees as the politically motivated leaking by the Treasury of this migration south, he has known these were the banks’ respective intentions for months (because RBS, for one, told him).

The BBC has responded in its usual way…nothing to see here…in this case there isn’t…except for Robinson’s craven surrender to the SNP bullying…..

We received complaints from viewers who felt Nick Robinson’s report on the Scottish First Minister’s press conference implied that Alex Salmond had not answered a question put to him

The BBC’s Political Editor Nick Robinson asked Scotland’s First Minister Alex Salmond two questions at his press conference on Thursday 11th September. The first question centred on the tax implications of RBS moving its legal headquarters to London; the second on why voters should trust a politician rather than businessmen.

Nick Robinson’s report showed the second question on trust, with a script line noting that Mr Salmond had not answered that point.

The BBC considers that the questions were valid and the overall report balanced and impartial, in line with our editorial guidelines.

Robinson asked if Salmond still believed there were no consequences resulting from businesses such as RBS moving to London, or did Salmond accept that tax revenues would go to London?

Salmond replied that corporation tax depends on economic activity not where your registered office is claiming that RBS’s and Lloyd’s registered office’s were merely brass plaques with no significance.

But that’s not true.  The brass plaques represent the legal entity of the company.

The Banks are moving their legal entities from Scotland to England…..and as such would likely be under English tax jurisdiction….and Lloyds does have its head office in London but it is a Scottish company legally…and its subsidairy, The Bank of Scotland, has its HQ in Edinburgh…so that will move also…disengenuous of Salmond to dodge that….

The move will end more than 100 years of heritage for the Edinburgh based Bank of Scotland, which has its head office in St Andrew Square.

From City AM:

Lloyds Banking Group will move its official headquarters out of Scotland if the country votes for independence in next week’s referendum.

The banking group which owns Lloyds Bank, Halifax and Bank of Scotland largely operate from its London headquarters, however the bank’s registered offices are in Edinburgh.

RBS statement:

As part of such contingency planning, RBS believes that it would be necessary to re-domicile the Bank’s holding company and its primary rated operating entity (The Royal Bank of Scotland plc) to England.

The Guardian looks at businesses moving their head offices…although RBS and Lloyds aren’t moving for tax purposes such effects could happen by default…..

Corporate inversion – moving the head office for tax purposes

A corporate inversion occurs when a multinational group moves its notional head office, often for tax purposes, from its home jurisdiction to an overseas territory. The impact on operations is often minimal, with manufacturing activities and the markets in which it operates remaining unchanged.

However, combined with a web of crossborder transactions between companies owned by the same group, such inversions can play an important role in shifting profits within an international business to low-tax jurisdictions, boosting returns for shareholders.

Peston says he doesn’t know exactly what will happen tax wise and he is still trying to find out…so Salmond must have been blustering….

Does the Anglicisation of banks matter?

From the BBC’s Peston….

In a globalised world of multinationals, working out where tax is paid – if it is paid – is ferociously complicated.

Here the BBC delves deeper telling us the banks want to move their ‘tax homes’ to England:

Scotland: Why would banks shift tax headquarters south?

Banks and financial services firms have said they will move their tax headquarters, and in some cases part of their operations, to England in the event of a vote for Scottish independence.

Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds Banking Group said they would “re-domicile” their main groups south of the border if there were a Yes vote.

Tesco Bank would also “re-domicile” in England, Clydesdale Bank would re-register as English, and TSB would also “re-domicile” parts of its business.

But what does that actually mean?

According to Patrick Stevens, tax policy director at the Chartered Institute of Taxation, large companies typically “re-domicile” to take advantage of perks offered by a particular country’s tax regime.

It’s helpful to think of a company having to have a “home” for tax purposes. To move that “home”, multinationals make a holding company tax resident in a particular country.

Like the outcome of the referendum itself, it’s very difficult to see what the eventual tax outcome will be.

However, one thing is certain: banks want to move their tax “homes” south as a backstop in the event of Scottish independence.

Salmond tried to mock Robinson by saying someone from the BBC should know that Lloyds has their head office in London…..but that’s semantics….the registered office is the one that pays the taxes.

Peston the day before the little spat made clear what was what:

Lloyds would relocate its registered office to where it currently has its head office – which is also London (naturally).

Salmond smirked and laughed off any suggestion that he couldn’t be sure about how much oil was in the Clair Field, and the SNP has been insistent in BBC interviews that it was enormous and would guarantee a massive windfall without the BBC challenging that assertion……

The SNP’s business mouthpiece, Business for Scotland, tells us:

Off the West coast of Shetland is the Clair Ridge field. It contains an estimated 8 billion barrels of oil, with an estimated 120,000 barrels per day production at peak levels.

 

However whilst there are estimates of 8 billion barrels of oil in the field BP says that in reality only 640 million are recoverable:

The development will produce about 640m barrels of oil over 40 years.

What does Salmond say one day later after the Robinson interview?

Is there a massive unreported oil field off Shetland under the Clair Ridge?

“There is a lot of suggestion.”

Is it credible suggestion?

“Oh yes, it’s credible. But can I confirm it? No. What I can tell you is many of my constituents believe this to be true.”

Are they misguided?

“Well, I don’t know. I can’t say for definite.”

Salmond claimed there must be a conspiracy between No10 and the businesses as they’d all had a chat with Cameron recently….unfortunately Salmond then went on to admit the company announcements weren’t news at all to the Scots, they’d known all along…indeed these businesses had announced these plans and commented on the consequences of Independence months earlier.

Finally Salmond refused to answer the question about the trustworthiness of politicians….he himself has his doubts….

This argument’s been won,” he carries on, “for the following reason: that the overwhelming majority of people want to keep the pound, and secondly they don’t believe the Westminster politicians.”

So all in all, Salmond gave an ‘answer’ but he didn’t say anything that could be relied upon.  Many taxes will go to England as a result of the registered offices moving, The BBC did know that Lloyds had its head office in London.  The oil field is big but nowhere near as productive as the Yes campaign claim….and Salmond now admits he can’t be sure at all.  And of course politicians aren’t trusted anywhere…..all of which are the opposite of what Salmond claimed.

So no, Salmond didn’t answer either question and if Robinson had a bit more backbone he’d have tackled Salmond again, and again.

Much of this is revealed in an interview Salmond did with the Herald newspaper the day after the Robinson session:

Is the BBC’s referendum coverage biased?

“Yes, absolutely,” he says. “Of course it is. The problem with Nick … I mean, don’t get me wrong, I like these folk, but they don’t realise they’re biased. It’s the unconscious bias which is the most ­extraordinary thing of all. If the BBC were covering, in my estimation, any referendum, in any democracy, anywhere in the world, they would cover it impeccably, in a balanced fashion.

“What they don’t understand is they’re players in this.”

He says BBC journalists from London are reporting old news as fresh out of ignorance.

This argument’s been won [of the currency debate],” he carries on, “for the following reason: that the overwhelming majority of people want to keep the pound, and secondly they don’t believe the Westminster politicians.”

Is there a massive unreported oil field off Shetland under the Clair Ridge?

“There is a lot of suggestion.”

Is it credible suggestion?

“Oh yes, it’s credible. But can I confirm it? No. What I can tell you is many of my constituents believe this to be true.”

Are they misguided?

“Well, I don’t know. I can’t say for definite

He’s always said the result would be a Yes. What about the scale of the victory?

“I’d be absolutely delighted with 50.1%. I do have something [greater] in mind but I’m going to leave it to the people.”

I  wonder if he will be so accepting of a 50.1% No vote?  Keep that statement in mind.

I’m just catching up on some emails and I thought this was one you may wish to engage with and help out on please.

“This petition to the BBC and BBC Trust could really be quite significant if gains momentum.  I’m hoping for 10,000 signatures which will really make an impact even if the BBC doesn’t make the relatively small changes demanded/requested.

‘Change BBC boilerplate on Gaza casualties to reflect disputed figures’ http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/change-bbc-boilerplate-on-gaza-casualties-to

A big thanks to  “Five Minutes for Israel” about reasoning for the petition.
‘… and the majority were not civilian’ 

http://5mfi.com/and-the-majority-were-not-civilian/

Did you see that BBC stalwart Nick Robinson has been at the receiving end of Chairman Salmond’s tongue? I feel a bit sorry for Robinson but then again the BBC pander too much to demagogues like Salmond little realising that he will devour them just as easily as anyone else who dares question his ways,

Alex Salmond has backed yes campaigners who staged an angry protest outside the BBC’s Scottish headquarters over perceived bias shown by the corporation’s political editor, Nick Robinson. The National Union of Journalists condemned attempts to intimidate journalists after Sunday’s protesters, objecting to what they regard as the BBC’s pro-union bias, said Robinson was a liar and called for him to be fired.

Salmond, Scotland’s first minister, said he did not want Robinson to be sacked and did not believe he was a liar. But he said the BBC had been unfair and unreasonable in the way it edited a tense exchange between Salmond and Robinson at a press conference on Thursday. Robinson was accused by the first minister of “heckling” after he pressed Salmond to answer further questions about the threat of Scotland-based banks to move their registered offices to London.”

In Alex Salmond’s brave new world, anyone asking any questions he deems unacceptable will be harassed and bullied and intimidated so on this occasion, I stand WITH the BBC. Forgive me!

Here you go – this is an Alex Salmond approved Open Thread! The floor is yours…

The Telegraph reports curbs will be imposed on the Muslim Brotherhood due to its ties with armed groups and extremists…one of which of course is Hamas….

Britain to curb Muslim Brotherhood operations in London

Britain set to curtail Muslim Brotherhood activities and block activists coming to London after report finds ties with armed groups and extremists in Middle East and elsewhere

Has Katz & Co ever been in a pub?  Maybe he was thinking wine bar….

From the Telegraph:

Evan Davis has now been appointed to the newsnight role, to assemble what Katz has called the “smartest, most interesting (and entertaining) group of people”.

He hinted Russell Brand could play a future role in the programme, though not as a presenter, after Paxman’s interview with him became one of the most talked-about moments in Newsnight history.

When asked what he had planned for Newsnight, as Davis joins a new era of presenters, Katz added: “In a complicated, messy world where we are all bombarded with news, I think Newsnight should be the group of clever friends you want to sit down with in the pub at the end of a long day and make sense of what is going on in the world.”

Jeremy Paxman did not wish to comment.

Jeremy Paxman did not wish to comment.  Says it all really.

And at least we know what to expect from the highbrow party animals….more hyping immigration……

Here you go, a new open thread to see us off into the weekend! Detail the bias here please.

Former DUP leader Ian Paisley has died aged 88

Listening to 5Live, Dominic Laurie I think, the most pressing issue was to ask, and keep asking, if the ‘intransigent’ Ian Paisley prevented the peace process from being successfully implemented much earlier….was it his fault the conflict kept going?

Might of course have had something to do with the IRA….I don’t know, but it’s possible.

Women are born and raised to hate men.  It’s basic misandry and there has to be a zero tolerance of it says Lord Ahmed speaking to Victoria Derbyshire….we ignore this problem at our peril!  It stems from the Christian religion and the Genesis story which enshrines the myth of masculine evil as a justification for male oppression.

Actually, no.  The BBC never broadcast any such thing.  Except it did.  Sort of.

All men hate women.

In May there was a great deal of attention being paid to women being abused, attacked and otherwise oppressed around the world.  The BBC investigated this issue using several high profile cases as proof of their contention that men just hate women.

Yes, all these cases have a common theme…’Male hatred of women’…not just individual instances of disturbed or criminal men but all men, all men hate women, it’s innate, bred into them, their brains are hardwired that way, they learn it in church or on their mother’s knee….so look out….

‘The whole process of becoming masculine is at risk in the little boy from the date of his birth on; his still-to-be-created masculinity is endangered by the primary, profound, primeval oneness with the mother.’

It is only by setting woman apart as Other, by resisting intimacy with her, by treating her with contempt and aggression, that men assert their own independent and fragile masculinity.

Contrast that sweeping accusation, that men hate women,  with the BBC’s concerted effort to separate the Muslim community from the actions of fundamentalist Muslims done in the name of Islam….the BBC makes huge efforts to put a firewall between them and the ‘Religion of Peace’. These fundamentalists are mad, bad and certainly not Muslim we are assured.

The BBC doesn’t just make the claim that all men hate women but exploit it as an entry point to weave an amazing web of intrigue,  tying together many different strands and narratives that reflect and highlight the BBC’s own ‘bête noire’ and concerns.

The issues that keep the BBC awake at night?

Firstly of course, the knowledge that ‘all men hate women’. The world must awake to this intractable and ever-present problem.

Then there is British aid money….so often the target of ’Daily Mail’ types who want the money spent on the poor and needy at home…the BBC’s contention is that such aid is vital in helping various communities around the world, educating them about an array of issues…in this case of course it is educating men about women’s rights…and we know Cameron chatted to the BBC’s James Harding about the BBC’s presentation of European issues…what else did they discuss?  Perhaps Cameron’s own pet project of maintaining foreign aid…and perhaps the BBC would like to help out by highlighting just how brilliant and worthy and successful it all is.

Then we have Islam, at the time of writing the issue was Boko Haram and it‘s kidnapping of Nigerian school girls….again this was presented by the BBC as an issue of men hating women rather than having a political motivation or just being plain old desire for women…and the BBC uses this to also declare that Boko Haram is most certainly not really an ‘Islamic jihadist group’ as such but merely a reaction against Western colonisation…er…in 1903.

Of course Boko Haram is not the only example of women being abused in Islamic lands.  Large numbers of women are being killed or abused in such countries…but the BBC is keen to promote the idea that such treatment of women has nothing to do with the teachings of the Koran……the BBC presenting it as merely ‘misogyny’….again…merely as a hatred of women.

Many of the reports come from those Islamic countries and the BBC is concerned of the image that that creates about Islam…that it oppresses women and generates hate towards them.

The BBC has a natural inclination to try and downplay anything that might be construed as ‘evil’ about Islam and to find another way to explain the events…such as they maybe merely cultural or pure Misogyny, or a result of some external pressures on the society….therefore it has settled on an overarching explanation of all such events as one of men hating women.

The BBC illustrates it’s theory that men hate women with various examples.

• First we have Boko Haram kidnapping hundreds of girls…and converting them to Islam.

• Then the rape and murder of two girls in India.

• Then the death sentence pronounced on a Christian woman in Somalia for ‘apostasy’.

• Then they latch onto the teenager in America who apparently went on a hate filled rampage against all women.

The problem is…not one of those events is actually based upon a hatred of women….not even the Elliot Rodgers’ killing spree in the US.

Boko Haram’s motives must be manifold….all derived from their intent to impose an Islamic state upon Nigeria…..other than the actual Islamic teachings that make women second class citizens, which the BBC doesn’t refer to, there is nothing in this that indicates Boko Haram hates women….they are after all happily slaughtering hundreds of men as well…the girls are political pawns and sex slaves.  They don’t hate them, they just use them.

The rape of two girls in India?…is that hate or just sexual gratification and a covering up of the crime by killing the ‘witnesses’…is it a class issue?

The woman sentenced to death in Somalia?  That was based upon her being a Christian not on her gender…if she had been male the sentence would have been the same…

He reminded the world that Meriam was not abused because she was a woman or from a minority. She suffered persecution because of her faith.

The BBC even admits it elsewhere: Sudan woman faces death for apostasy

Elliot Rodgers in America?   What the BBC doesn’t admit is that he actually killed more men than women…and that he was mentally ill.  Rodgers problem was that he loved women but they didn’t love him, he thought they hated him….“All of those beautiful girls I’ve desired so much in my life, but can never have because they despise and loathe me, I will destroy.”   So not really an inborn hatred of women on his part….and he killed more men than women…

Authorities now know Elliot Rodger’s killing spree across Isla Vista began before he even left home.
The 22-year-old former Santa Barbara City College student fatally stabbed three young men in his own apartment — George Chen, 19, Cheng Yuan Hong, 20, and Weihan Wang, 20.
Chen and Hong were the attacker’s roommates.

And consider this: Elliot Rodger was mentally ill. That conversation needs to take place.

Not on the BBC it doesn’t…he’s a man, therefore he hates women.

And of course then there is Rochdale…..another case of ‘men hating women’ apparently…and nothing to do with Islam or race or criminal abuse and exploitation.

It is highly dishonest of the BBC to conflate all these cases and to present them as examples of how women are treated terribly because men ‘hate’ them.

None of them illustrate that at all.

The BBC dragged in the ‘Defender of the Faith‘, Baroness Warsi to comment.  She of course did all she could to deflect any blame for her religion, Islam….it’s that usual suspect Misogyny…..

Baroness Warsi: ‘We have to name and shame’ misogyny

The recent brutality against women in Pakistan, India and Sudan is due to “basic misogyny”, said Baroness Warsi, Foreign Office Minister and Conservative Peer.

Lady Warsi said a “zero tolerance approach to everyday sexism” is needed.

Here is some of the interview, paraphrased for brevity….

Victoria Derbyshire asks Warsi…..

VD:  Why are some women being treated like this in some parts of the world?  Why are women still 2nd class citizens in many parts of the world?

Warsi deliberates…..‘It comes down to basic misogyny…..There is a view that women do not have the right to make choices or have the same opportunities as men…economic, financial and social decision making……‘

Derbyshire feeds her a line, making th claim that it is about misogyny and to allow Warsi to claim there is no particular religion or place that is particularly prone to it…..

VD:  The cases are not unique to Pakistan or Somlia or India….the killings in the US were done by a student who hated women…so it would appear to be basic misogyny right across the world.

Warsi…Yes….this is not restricted to a particular culture or part of world  religion to which this behaviour is unique.   We’re using aid in these places to make sure women have rights, championing them…focus on education of girls international development….fight only successful when women have tools to raise their own voices and make their own choices.

Derbyshire pushing the aid theme….

VD:   How much impact does British aid have?

Warsi:  Huge impact….real changes happen because of it.

VD:   In end it is men in power however much women are educated.

Warsi:  There must be a zero tolerance approach to everyday sexism to reduce misogyny.  We have to make sure women play a full role and have their voices heard…..raise our sons to respect women, bring them up right…we must call out when you see something wrong.
Child exploitation trials in Rochdale…that was misogyny…not Islam.

The BBC Doesn’t miss a trick and promotes this book about Misogyny….

Joan Smith’s Misogynies
Duration: 45 minutes First broadcast: Thursday 05 June 2014
It’s been 25 years since the first publication of Joan Smith’s book Misogynies. In 1989, this collection of essays created shock waves with its analyses of everything from Page 3, violence in films, women in the clergy and the bungled Yorkshire Ripper murder investigation. But how much have things really moved on in the past quarter century? Jenni talks to crime writer Val McDermid about the culture Misogynies sprang from and to Alex Clark about current feminist literature. Martin Daubney and Dr Claire Hardaker discuss the impact that online pornography and trolling have on society and we talk to a group of men about joining the fight against misogyny.

Even the BBC’s Paul Mason (Gone but not forgotten) is draughted in to make the case:

Is there a tech solution for hatred of women?

If it’s a social problem and not a technological one, what is the root of it? Ms Norton, believes it is stark:
“The social problem is that men are raised to hate women and technology is not going to fix that.”
You can already feel cyberspace divided into a world that hates women and one that does not. Fortunately the former is small, but incredibly powerful – and underestimated at its peril.

Some extra reading on the subject…..
New details emerge about California killer and his victims
The rampage started with his roommates
Authorities now know Elliot Rodger’s killing spree across Isla Vista began before he even left home.
The 22-year-old former Santa Barbara City College student fatally stabbed three young men in his own apartment — George Chen, 19, Cheng Yuan Hong, 20, and Weihan Wang, 20.
Chen and Hong were the attacker’s roommates.
A friend of Rodger’s family said Rodger recently had a feud with his roommates, complaining to his landlord that his roommates were too noisy and played lots of video games.
The assailant himself outlined his plan to kill two roommates in a 137-page manifesto he left behind.
“I’d even enjoy stabbing them both to death while they slept,” Rodger wrote.

Rodger’s history of mental health issues was no secret to his family, and the young man was seeing at least two therapists prior to his death.
He had been seeing therapists on and off since he was 8, family friend Simon Astaire said. When he went to high school in Van Nuys, California, he met with a therapist “pretty much every day,” Astaire said.

In “My Twisted World: The Story of Elliot Rodger,” the writer said he bought his first handgun in 2012 in preparation for a possible “Day of Retribution.”

On Friday, minutes before he shot three young women in front of a sorority house and killed a young man at a nearby deli, Rodger e-mailed his writings to two dozen people, including his parents and at least one of his therapists.
“My orchestration of the Day of Retribution is my attempt to do everything, in my power, to destroy everything I cannot have,” Rodger wrote.
“All of those beautiful girls I’ve desired so much in my life, but can never have because they despise and loathe me, I will destroy. All of those popular people who live hedonistic lives of pleasure, I will destroy, because they never accepted me as one of them. I will kill them all and make them suffer, just as they have made me suffer. It is only fair.”

Elliot Rodger was mentally ill. That conversation needs to take place.

Rodger wrote that the “first phase” of his massacre plan would be to stab his two male roommates to death.
“These were the biggest nerds I had ever seen, and they were both very ugly with annoying voices,” he wrote. “If they were pleasant to live with, I would regret having to kill them, but due to their behavior I now had no regrets about such a prospect. In fact, I’d even enjoy stabbing them both to death while they slept.”
“After that, I will start luring people into my apartment, knock them out with a hammer, and slit their throats. I will torture some of the good looking people before I kill them, assuming that the good looking ones had the best sex lives. All of that pleasure they had in life, I will punish by bringing them pain and suffering. I have lived a life of pain and suffering, and it was time to bring that pain to people who actually deserve it.”

Somalis grow fearful of Islamists

Public anger at the recent stoning of a 13-year-old girl in Somalia shows the growing resentment towards radical Islamists who have gained control of much of the south and centre of the country.
Her 62-year-old aunt told the BBC that the teenager had in fact been raped by three armed men – and she took Asha to the police station to report it.
Several days later, after two suspects had been arrested, she was asked to return to the station with her niece.
To her surprise the girl was taken into custody too.
“I tried to speak to the police but they said they were not talking,” she said.
Three days later, after Asha had been tried in an Islamist court, she was stoned to death.
“They said that the girl had chatted up these men and had confessed to adultery,” she said.
But the aunt said the authorities clearly failed to notice her age, how mentally disturbed she was by her experience, or her history of mental illness.
“She was only 13 years old. I have got her card from Hagarder refugee camp which has her age on it.

Not Islamic

The rather desperate counter argument in light of the fact that Rodgers killed more men….

Elliot Rodger hated men because he hated women.

Misogyny kills men, too.
Rodger hated women, that much was clear.
But men who loved women also incurred Rodger’s wrath. “I will destroy all women,” Rodger wrote. “I will make them all suffer for rejecting me. I will arm myself with deadly weapons and wage a war against all women and the men they are attracted to.” Rodger viewed women as objects, and he resented other men for hoarding what he viewed as his property. “If I can’t have them,” he wrote, “no one will.”
Elliot Rodger targeted women out of entitlement, their male partners out of jealousy, and unrelated male bystanders out of expedience.

Why Men Hate Women

It is only by setting woman apart as Other, by resisting intimacy with her, by treating her with contempt and aggression, that men assert their own independent and fragile masculinity.
Germaine Greer once commented that ‘women have very little idea of how much men hate them’. For it is painful to confront the extent of men’s hatred.