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Anon: The child was selected from the UK NOT London. Unless we’re being lied to about immigration, white kids are still the majority. Just.
I really don’t think picking a Muslim was a good idea, not with all the terrorism they’ve caused in London.
Just found this interesting Media critique site. Beyond Images
Special BBC section, including Jane Corbin’s Panorama TV documentary on Gaza, and how the BBC website misrepresented it.
Martin:
“Anon: The child was selected from the UK NOT London.”
It may have escaped your notice but it is the London Olympics not the UK Olympics.
I won’t be watching the closing ceremony, I have no wish to be humiliated – not after the wonderful performance of our team. I’ll save my ‘viewing’ for when our team return and their parade.
The BBC humiliate us all, but they do so daily, but a Muslim, headscarf wearing foreigner as a representative, in a world full of Muslim terrorism and inhumanity is a true disgrace. No better than Hitler and his Aryans.
But if I am ashamed many others will be too – especially in the face of the pride in our team – it will not do any good. It will increase racial tension, send many more into the arms of the BNP, and be yet another reason for not voting Labour.
So, in the end they’ve scored an own goal for their cultural Marxism. That is the crumb of comfort to take from this.
its like something out of the matrix.
archduke | 24.08.08 – 1:40 am |
Fascinating but they also sell Barbie-like dolls with faces.
I’m intrigued by the T-Shirt slogans:
Heaven is under my mummy’s feet ❓
I change 5 times a day ❓
I’m Islamic feed me organic ❓
Can anyone guess the significance of blond, fair skinned and Western European dressed faceless dolls ?
Anon: The BBC should not have been allowed any say as to who took part. I would point out that even in London Moozlums are a minority. WHY did the BBC feel the need to select a Muslim girl? After all we don’t see many Muslim athletes in Team GB do we?
There are plenty of working class kids who are NOT Muslims.
The BBC humiliate us all, but they do so daily, but a Muslim, headscarf wearing foreigner as a representative, in a world full of Muslim terrorism and inhumanity is a true disgrace. No better than Hitler and his Aryans.
Lady of the Lake | 24.08.08 – 9:51 am |
Nonsense. Would there be an outcry if a West Indian, Sikh or ultra orthodox Jew had won? The one and only question is, was this a random choice and a hijabbed Muslim happened to win or did the BBC rig the competition?
If any ethnic minority should be represented, it is the Caribbeans – at least they take part in athletics in large numbers.
There will be s real shit storm when this girl appears wearing her hijab/burka or whatever today.
Trust me. Most people will not like it.
And yes if the child had been Jewish, black, Chinese or whatever, it wouldn’t have matteresd.
AS soon as people realise the BBC chose her, it will kick off.
Anyone else noticed the short talk slipped into radio 3 every morning. The one on Saturday was a disgrace, a youthful, well fairly, intoned “slavery took africans to America. I went to a Grammar School and three universities and only recently found this out”. Another “educated” idiot, slavery was rife well before America was found. It was originally a tribal thing, then expanded, the Romans, ancient Greece, Egypt et al had slaves, a lot of white men were slaves. And he went to three universities?
From Sunday Telegraph: “Queen to pay tribute to British medal winners”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2609781/Beijing-Olympics-Queen-pays-tribute-to-British-medal-winners.html
From BBC website: “Brown Hails British Mdal Success” complete with smiling PR video of Broon the dour.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/7579487.stm
Two different words.
Deegee
It is your opinion is is nonsense, but not mine or many others. Let me tell you why a Muslim is a humiliating representative.
1. The Muslim religion, through their own doctrine, is not compatible with our values. They believe only God can make laws not man – that is the basis of Sharia. That does not represent us.
2. Muslims have killed 52 people in London in a terrorist outrage. And it was Muslim fundamentalisms (the kind that insists women wear covering) that has no regrets. They have further tried to do the same on a number of occasions. A symbol of Muslim fundermentalism does not represent us, and is, in my eyes, and insult to those who were murdered.
3. Muslims in reasonable numbers according to polls outwardly hate us and our way of life. They do not want to integrate. They do not represent us.
4. Muslims cause acts of terrorism around the world. They behead people they kidnap, they blow people up by using other humans (often women and the unwanted.) And as a way of life they condone honour killing, stoning, etc, etc, etc. They do not represent us.
So, to answer your question. A West Indian is a foreigner so not a good representative. I presume you mean a British person who is black – answer no. If the competition was fair. I don’t see black people refusing to integrate, dealing in hate literature, and marching through London wishing death on us all. The same goes for both Seiks and orthodox Jews. None of these would be humiliating. It is you who are prejudiced towards my views, with the whitewash of racism.
However, if you saw a child with an Aborigini background representing Japan, would you not be a little surprised? Personally, I think it would have been better for a number of children from a variety of backgrounds to represent us – and yes then we could even have included a moderate (ie non headscarf wearing) Muslim.
Does anyone know at what age Muslim girls normally start to wear the hijab?
10 years old seems ridiculously young.
Could this be more a ‘political statement’ on the part of the parents?
If so – what are they trying to say? That they support the terrorists and extremists?
Derek W. Buxton:
‘The one on Saturday was a disgrace, a youthful, well fairly, intoned “slavery took africans to America.” – Another “educated” idiot, slavery was rife well before America was found.’
It is a simple statement of fact. He appears to be talking about how Africans came to be in America, not about slavery generally.
Anon: Islam = terrorism
In most Muslim communities girls don’t start wearing the hijab until they reach puberty.
So if a 10-year-old is wearing it at the Olympic closing ceremony then it is likely to be a political statement.
“in most muslim countries”
But is it ? I mean do the majority of muslim women in those countries always wear the religous garb ? It may even be the most, but not all. I think the trouble is with the ones we have here, and the BBC and government dont help.
Personally, I think it would have been better for a number of children from a variety of backgrounds to represent us – and yes then we could even have included a moderate (ie non headscarf wearing) Muslim.
Lady of the Lake | 24.08.08 – 10:42 am | #
So you are saying that if the BBC conducted a fair competition and a hijab-wearing Muslim had won (presumably the present case – absent proof to the contrary) then the contest should have been rigged to produce a more acceptable candidate?
I’m curious how you would go about this. Did the contest form include a space for a photograph? Is the girl’s name, Tayyiba Dubhwala, sufficient evidence to disqualify her? What operational steps would you take to check out whether a candidate is moderate? Would not all of the above be illegal?
That fag Grayson Perry is on BBC news 24 right now. What an utter wanker dressed up like Bo Peep with rosy cheeks and a dress.
deegee: Why should a Muslim be chosen? We are not talking about the girls race here, (it would have been just as bad if it had been a white Muslim).
The presentation is about theOlympics. Not Islam. Muslims always have to get their fucking religion in somewhere.
This article should say it all. Islam should be wiped out in the UK.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1048634/LIZ-JONES-The-women-Kabul-tell-British-troops-really-heroes.html
I don’t know if the result was fixed or not.(I am here dependent on other contributors I did not know there was a competition let alone the result of it))It is though the result we would get if either the uber liberal BBC or a government desperste to appease the Muslims any way they can had done a fix.
As few outside the government or the BBC would be happy to be represented by somebody who clearly rejects British culture and given the BBC’s previous history we must be suspicious.
From the 2001 census 3% of the population was muslim. Allowing for immigration since then and their high birth rate (usual in cultures that hate women) it is still probably no more than 6% at worse. There will be illegals on top of that I am assuming they would not be entering competitions. So there would be a one in 15 chance of getting a Muslim. A girl though? How many Muslim fathers of the sort that force their daughters to wear traditional dress would allow them to take part in a competition to represent a country they hate? Very few. I would not be supprised to find out that the family had a link with the BBC the government or some organisation that gets government funding.
Martin:
“That fag Grayson Perry is on BBC news 24 right now. What an utter wanker dressed up like Bo Peep with rosy cheeks and a dress.”
You should be thankful that he is not representing us at the Beijing ceremony.
Me again. just looked up the girl on the internet. On the publicity photo she is wearing normal clothes. So if she does turn up in the stadium in ‘traditional’ dress we will know the BBC or the government is making a political statement.
Looks like we are also to be represented by a black dance troupe.
Just watching the BBC’s closing programme. How did they describe Micheal Phelps?
“China left a few scraps on the table. One greedy American came along and gorged himself.”
Nice, BBC. Don’t let anyone ever say that you aren’t bigotry-ridden.
And I’m sure that they think this is perfectly okay.
Why don’t they make unpleasant generalisations about other nationalities? Whole races or religions? Because that, of course, would be wrong.
Why should a Muslim be chosen?
Martin | 24.08.08 – 11:36 am | #
I never said that a Muslim should be chosen. I said that a ‘fair’ contest should allow for that possibility.
The BBC has an obligation to obey the laws of the United Kingdom including Human Rights and Fraud laws. If, as several contributors to this thread, have advised there is active discrimination against hijab-wearing Muslims this would be illegal. Lecturing me about the evils of Islam won’t change this or be a sufficient defence in court.
Given the recent BBC scandals involving contests I, too, am suspicious of the convenient choice but I have no proof. Should evidence come up it will be yet another well-deserved nail in the BBC’s coffin. Until then no amount of teeth gnashing will change who walks with David Beckham. (BTW Did he win some sort of Blue Peter contest? 🙂
Sarah: Yes spot on. Oh and the BBC wankers had to get Iraq and Guantanamo in as well.
These left wing twats just don’t give up do they?
“Sarah:
“The BBC features rather prominently in the handover show, doesn’t it?
How bizarre.”
Prominent? Explain.
Bizarre? Explain.”
Because from the advance information about the ceremony, it appears that it will feature the BBC. Actually feature the BBC. With it’s World Service call sign “This is London”, and with the Shipping Forecast.
I quite like the Shipping Forecast. It’s the best thing the BBC does. But I do find it peculiar that in choosing things to define itself in a short time to the whole world, the BBC is selected as one of those things. Is British national identity really so closely tied to the BBC, that when it has eight minutes to present itself, it should feature?
Perhaps so. But I find it bizarre.
BBC News 24 wanstain going on about how the Tories will be causing trouble if the cost of the London Olympic goes over 9.3 billion.
LISTEN you stupid beeboids. It was Tessa Jowell that said the cost would NOT rise above 9.3 billion.
Just how thick are you?
deegee: I don’t want ANY religious references to the Olympics. In partiuclar a barbaric one called Islam.
If she appears without any external references to her religion, then fair enough. But we just know her local Mosque won’t want to miss the chance to promote the most backwards religion on the planet.
Edward: Don’t worry. The BBC will ensure the “gay” movement gets their anal activities into the London opening ceremony.
Martin:
“LISTEN you stupid beeboids. It was Tessa Jowell that said the cost would NOT rise above 9.3 billion.”
And it was BORIS JOHNSON who said “I’m absolutely determined to make sure that we come in under 9.3 billion”.
I don’t want ANY religious references to the Olympics. In particular a barbaric one called Islam.
Martin | 24.08.08 – 12:27 pm | #
Neither do I. My point was that there is absolutely no legal way of stopping it. Pick battles you can win.
Boris had to say that because Tessa Jowell had just laid down the law and said it’s £9.3 billion and “thats yer lot sonny”.
He is given no option
Sue Barker, with smacked-bitch lemon sucking sneer:
“The Amerrycans only got 36 Golds.”
Only, Sue? Weren’t you just telling us what a fanstastic victory these Olympics were for Britain? How many Golds did Britain get again?
Why are you such a nasty and vindictive nationalist, Sue? Did they teach you that at the BBC?
If anybody is interested the closing ceremony has started and is on Eurosport, the President of China has just been ignored by the BBC who went to London to some useless female presenter, I cant remember which they are all the same…
And now a military band…
i wonder what cgi effects the chinese will come up with…
deegee:
“I never said that a Muslim should be chosen. I said that a ‘fair’ contest should allow for that possibility.”
Do you think we are mad as you appear. So you would agree Mugabe won the election in Zimbabwe.
Muslims women scarcely participate in the Olympics and having one represent London is against almost every non Muslim in the town.
I wonder if the relatives of the people killed on 7/7 think muslims represent london?
She may well be representative if gets close to Boris Johnson and detonates.
It is quite delusional to believe this is anything other than a publicity stunt by the ever-PC BBC.
Looking on the bright side, though, the wave of anger that is likely from those who see this on their screens (I will not be among them – I think the Olympic Games is the biggest bore since the Channel Tunnel), is likely to help wash away the BBC when the time comes.
(Cue some boring BBC fanboy with invented statistics about what percentage of the public thinks the Corporation is wonderful).
Olympics closing ceremony ? Oh dear, I missed it.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23543032-details/Schoolgirl%2C+10%2C+to+help+Beckham+bring+Olympic+flag+back+home/article.do
this will make you laugh.
no – not the article – scroll down to the picture of the “red arrows”…
only its not – thats the french air force on bastille day. (note the arc de triomphe.)
The child left her hijab behind. Good.
now i know there’s been a lot of complaining about too much coverage being given to obama, but since polls indicate that a majority of britains are more interested in him becoming president, shouldn’t the bbc’s amount of coverage reflect the public mood? i mean, you’re the first to complain about certain issues not being given their deserved coverage amount, but if interest in mccain in this country is in the minority, why shouldn’t the bbc focus more on obama?
just throwing that out there
I thought the London part of the closing Olympic ceremony was a perfect representation. A Muslim emerged from a double decker bus – which then broke into pieces…
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00467/snn1109x_467666a.jpg
and then the muslim girl proceeded to walk on the backs of various “londoners”…
how appropriate.
“Our colleagues at NBC, and there are hundreds of them…” Said this morning by Adrian Chiles, one of 437 BBC staff in Beijing.
Statistically the chance of a muslim girl being chosen in a fair contest is nil.
The truth will out.
There are normal people working for Al Beeb even if they have to hide their views until they leave.
They will leak this. We will find out. The shit will hit the fan.
James: thanks for throwing that out, but forget it! We’ve tried that argument a million times. If the BBC were to stick with “reflecting majority opinion”, then they’d be sending out a pro-capital punishment, anti-EU, anti-uncontrolled immigration, anti-muslim terrorism message. Think about it
I loved it when Boris Johnson got a big cheer. Even the BBC had to admit that. They couldn’t resist getting that commie shit red Ken’s name in though.
And no Hijab. Anyone else notice the ‘concert’ in the Mall appears to be nothing more than a tV advert for the BBC?