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mark: The point I’ve raised several times. The BBC keep trying to point the blame at Boris for the 9.3 billion, but the Government has set THAT target, not him.
The BBC of course would like even more money spent, the BBC know no other way.
Newmark: Your point is? Boris wants to keep a lid on spending from his side. Commie Ken had alreadey wasted millions and Boris has a target budget.
He knows that if the games go over budget it will be the London tax payer that funds the costs.
What’s your problem? He still didn’t set the budget.
BBC presenter Lyse Doucet: Media fail to convey ‘humanity of the Taliban’
Asked what was missing in British coverage, she added: “It may sound odd but the humanity of the Taliban, because the Taliban are a wide, very diverse group of people.
Incredible.
And here are Lyce Doucet’s thoughts on Prince Harry’s deployment in Afghanistan:
“Viewing figures went up, Prince Harry got a hero’s welcome and recruitment for the British Army went up so an objective was achieved.”
The BBC – on the side of our enemies.
Lyse Doucet is a piece of scum. She’s perfect for the BBC.
As soon as you hear the word “diverse” on a BBC scummer’s lips, it’s time to reach for the sick-bucket. Other top-BBC words: “Community” (or even “diverse communities”) and “appropriate” (meaning “we tell you how to judge”)
Lyse Doucet is up there in the worst top 5 at the Beeb.
She totally misuses her position to give biased anti-Brit and anti-US views.
How come th BBC World Service gives such a pivotal job to a foreigner?
I don’t normally use the word “scum” – but I confess it is the first word that came to mind in reading that article.
Incredible.DB | 24.08.08 – 4:52 pm
BBC presenter Lyse Doucet says Media fail to convey ‘humanity of the Taliban’
Now have a look at the “humanity of the Taliban” http://www.lccables.com/talibans/2.html
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Has anyone been watching the closing ceremony coverage from the BBC?
They started with a montage of clips of the past few weeks – with the commentator noting the political issues and equating the protests over China and Sudan to the US and Iraq, the human rights in Tibet with Guantanamo and so on…
They then proceeded to marvel at Chinese Olympic triumphs before remarking that a ‘greedy American’ had picked on the few scraps…
Unbelievable.
I’m not sure what’s worse, the BBC in its default anti-British mode or its Olympic British chauvinist mode. As far as the Olympics is concerned, although all credit is due to the athletes, who really gives a toss? I (together with every acquaintance, friend and relation of mine) was totally indifferent to the “bad” results we got in previous Olympics. Now that we have a “success” on our hands the BBC considers that I should be on the streets celebrating while our politicos – egged on by the BBC – prepare to spew £10 billion of taxpayers’ money on another festival for these, frankly, rather weird obsessives.
The 2012 Olympics will simply show the world that we have largely given that end of our capital city away to immigrants, all in the space of a generation. Huge unemployment, lots of no-go areas, poor education – and a general air of mess. Londonistan indeed.
Bob makes a very good point about the BBC’s obsessive use of Leftist/collectivist buzzwords.
I nearly dropped my teapot when, late last night on a report about the one day strike of Coastguards, the BBC Radio 4 reporter spoke of advice having been given to ‘the seafaring community’!
Wouldn’t ‘seafarers’ suffice?
Ron Todd | 24.08.08 – 12:09 pm |
just looked up the girl on the internet. On the publicity photo she is wearing normal clothes. So if she does turn up in the stadium in ‘traditional’ dress we will know the BBC or the government is making a political statement.
I’ve looked around and have found only one picture of her at all. The same low-res head shot is being used by many media outlets, and the girl is wearing a hijab.
Could you please post a link to whatever photo you saw of her in normal clothes? It would be a bit of a scandal if it did turn out that the BBC forced religious garb on her to make a political statement.
She won a Blue Peter phone-in competition, and since the BBC has proven to be untrustworthy with those, suspicion is justified (don’t roll your eyes, Beeboids, it’s not like it was just one incident, and we should have gotten over it by now). But I’d like to see a picture, since I can’t find one.
In all the fawning BBC coverage, it is wrong that our national broadcaster has largely failed to show the ruthlessness of the dictatorship in Beijing.
But still seeks to get in sideswipes against the US.
Sickening.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/08/24/chinas_totalitarian_games/
Just been watching the BBC wank-fest over the closing ceremony of the Olympics.
Commentator was rambling on with Jimmy Page, finished off the interview and was looking off-camera left whilst speaking.
Next thing, he says “…and I think we can have a word with the Prime Minister….”
Next thing, *PING* camera lights go off. Broon interviewed in the dark.
Absolutely hilarious.
Jonah strikes again!!
The 2012 Olympics will simply show the world that we have largely given that end of our capital city away to immigrants, all in the space of a generation.
JohnA | 24.08.08 – 5:39 pm
And yet the audience for today’s event outside Buckingham Palace was hideously white, as is usual whenever the citizens of our diverse capital are called upon to make public declarations of patriotic pride down the Mall (eg the Queen’s golden jubilee and the Falklands 25th anniversary commemoration).
Millsee: And the same beeboid John Sopel then did an interview with Boris Johnson. He did everything but spit in his face.
The difference between Sopel interviewing Beana dn Johnson was just so obvious. Kay Burley on Sky though was very friendly to both.
The BBC just can’t accept that Boris beat their beloved Ken.
Oh and just on the Olympic closing ceremony. Am I the only one who found all those staged Chinese things rather dull?
As soon as Jimmy Page cranked up his guitar the stadium seemed to wake up.
White middle class men are most discriminated against at female-dominated BBC, says Newsnight’s Paxman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1048809/White-middle-class-men-discriminated-female-dominated-BBC-says-Newsnights-Paxman.html
I watched the closing ceremony on Eurosport HD. Better picture and sound quality than BBC HD, incidentally. But the commentator On Eurosport was also a bit of Boris fan it appeared, he said something to the effect that, a lot of people think Boris will turn out to be very good Mayor, although it too early to tell, Imagine a beeboid saying that about a Conservative politician, live on air!!! that would shorten teir career at Al-Beeb.
I had a go at Boris earlier in this thread but his comment “I say to the Chinese people ping pong is coming home” has made my day.
In fact, the whole speech is wonderful:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7580165.stm
You can tell the BBC is dominated by women. Just take a look at daytime TV and you can see the obsession with celebrity, houses, curtains, soaps and other chav crap that now dominates the BBC in the evening as well.
The lack of science and engineering programmes and the use of arts graduates to explain science on BBC news.
Well done ladies.
stopped and searched in waterloo station under s44 of the terrorism act
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2205086061380102681
a MUST see video.. sound quality is a bit poor…
Pacific Abyss on BBC2 provides a good dose of the BBC’s insidious progaganda on climate change.
The right-on keffiyeh wearing crew visit a pacific reef with only one variety of coral ( a particularly hardy type we are told) & little fish life. “Due to global warming” is the unsubstantiated, casually delivered opinion offered for us to absorb. The ship then sails for 9 hours to the next islands where the reef is vibrant. It is an odd global phenonemen that varies so greatly within 100 miles of ocean.
“DB | 24.08.08 – 8:05 pm | #”
bring back the pankration – f**king hilarious!!!
“ping pong was invented on the dining tables of england”….!!!!!!
what a speech.
“ping pong is coming home!”
My experience of South Pacific island snorkelling and some diving is tht coral quality is directly related to how much sewage and muck is spilt locally eg near a particular reef. The more isolated the reef, the less the damage.
Sod-all to do with climate warming.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2613717/BBC-presenter-Lyse-Doucet-Media-fail-to-convey-humanity-of-the-Taliban.html
sorry if old.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2613717/BBC-presenter-Lyse-Doucet-Media-fail-to-convey-humanity-of-the-Taliban.html
Media fail to convey Taliban’s ‘humanity’, says BBC presenter
sorry forgot the headline.
Tell you what, to get a more real sense of what life with the Taliban is like, Lyse Doucet could go live with them for a few months, just to see how long it takes before their sense of ‘humanity’ starts to wear thin.
Though never say anything remotely critical of the Taliban, or about men in particular, unless it’s a bloody good hammering she’s after.
More from Paxman:
[Extract from report on his Edinburgh speech, ‘Telegraph’]:
“The Newsnight presenter pointed to a string of women in senior positions at the BBC and other broadcasters in an attempt to show that the ‘glass ceiling’ holding them back no longer existed.
“‘Do I think it’s a man’s world? That’s the most ridiculous question I’ve been asked all week,’ Paxman said during an interview at the Edinburgh Television Festival.
“‘The worst thing you can be in this industry is a middle-class white male. Any middle-class white male who I come across that wants to enter television I tell them to give up.'”
“He cited Jana Bennett, the director of BBC Vision, Jay Hunt, the controller of BBC One and Dawn Airey, the chairman and chief executive of Five, as proof of his theory.
“‘Is this evidence of some male conspiracy keeping women down?’ Paxman said.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2613556/Jeremy-Paxman-Its-hard-for-white-middle-class-men.html
That video is hilarious. Typical useless fucking plods. They couldn’t catch a cold.
Terrorists!! They wouldn’t recognise one if one farted in his face.
It’s like a scene from Airplane where the old lady gets stopped but all the terrorits walk through with machine guns and rocket launchers.
For all you thick fucking plods out there. Here’s HOW to spot a terrorist.
http://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/01/thecrevice5.gif
Note the beards and the mad stare. It’s dead easy.
But to be serious, if you saw those two plods getting a kicking from some yob , would you step in to help?
I wouldn’t.
the other side of the olympics – as not reported by the bbc
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/08/not-only-coal.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4597006.ece
“Thousands of farmers, he writes, face ruin because their water has been cut off to guarantee supplies to the Olympics in Beijing, and officials are now trying to cover up a grotesque scandal of blunders, lies and repression.
Thus, while in the capital, foreign dignitaries have gushed over the millions of flowers in bloom and lush, well-watered greens around its famous sights, just 90 minutes south by train, peasants are hacking at the dry earth as their crops wilt, their money runs out and the work of generations gives way to despair, debt and, in a few cases, suicide.”
Martin,
The first giveaway in determining character is in the eyes. In the case of these chaps, cold and cruel looking.
Secondly, totally un-PC I know, is that the police should be focussing on specific ethnic groups and racial profiling, not pointless, “random” (read: arbitrary) searches on commuters.
The unpleasant reality is that our Pakistani brothers are much more likely to be involved in these activities, and will be in far more need of re-education than anyone else.
Good to see Boris wearing a England flag badge – first one I’ve seen all day in the handover ‘celebrations’…
Another example of the Beeb giving an unchallenged platform to a stupid leftie despite him spewing such obvious bollocks:
The headline? Wait for it…(drumroll)
Black youths ‘being left to die’
What’s this? Are injured black youths being left in the road to die after being hit by cars? Are sick black youths being denied treatment on the NHS, or being left to die on trolleys in hospital corridors?
No, they’re just not having enough money thrown at them, which of course leads to them being killed. Conclusion – black youths are being “left to die”. Read it to believe it…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7580207.stm
“Dr Campbell told the BBC that funds earmarked for community cohesion were not going to the right organisations.”
And this is why black youth are killing each other? This is such a boneheaded statement that publishing it without any challenge whatsoever is a disgrace to journalism.
“Dr Campbell said: “We have clear evidence of organisations which used to be funded and have delivered on outcomes but have suddenly not been supported.
“And we have to ask the question whether there seems to be an acceptance that if another black youth is killed they are just another one that we don’t have to worry about.”
In other words, “because certain organizations aren’t getting the funding they used to, we have to consider the motive that they simply want black kids to die so that we don’t have to worry about them”.
This guy is a complete and utter loony-left nutjob – and yet he gets a soapbox at the Beeb.
It gets better:
““Black youths within this country have been left to die. And that’s a very strong statement but it’s a statement that seems to be borne out through evidence about black youths who seem to be at the top of the list when it comes to our youngsters being killed,” he said.
Blacks are at the top of the list of “getting killed” because they kill each other more often, not because community organizations aren’t being funded. Yet another example of the ways in which the left view certain groups as nothing more than unsophisticated, savage animals who are not capable of thinking for themselves and making their own choices. Such vulnerable simpletons, of course, need “the left” to come to their rescue. To the left, blacks are simpletons who don’t have a sense of volition.
Note this idiot seeks to absolve all blame from the black youths who are killing each other. No mention made of the thug culture which influences them, nor of the fact that more black kids are born without fathers than any other group. No, it’s all the state’s fault for not throwing enough money at them.
Why does the BBC give unchallenged publicity to leftist airheads such like this? It seems the dumber they are, the more likely the Beeb is to take them seriously.
Martin | 24.08.08 – 8:31 pm |
You can tell the BBC is dominated by women. Just take a look at daytime TV and you can see the obsession with celebrity, houses, curtains, soaps and other chav crap that now dominates the BBC in the evening as well.
Actually, I would say that this is more indicative of the contempt the BBC programming mavens have for women in the UK. They obviously think that the vast majority of people watching TV during the day are vapid, vain, other-directed, uneducated, fat, unemployed-but-supported-by-their-husbands, women. This is entirely un-PC, and a surprising condemnation of the unhealthy attitude towards women on evidence at the BBC.
Since the BBC behaves like a commercial entity, the programmers are concerned about ratings, not quality. Thus, the content of their daytime programming should be a reflection of their opinion of the demographic watching during that time. As you point out, it’s not a pretty picture.
The lack of science and engineering programmes and the use of arts graduates to explain science on BBC news.
That’s because they only hire a very few with actual training in any area pertinent to their patch other than pushing buttons on the mixing board and maybe editing a headline. The rest of them are English or History, or Language (French, Spanish, Chinese) majors, or even worse. David Gregory is (was, in the context of this site) a rare bird in that he had actual training in the general area of his bailiwick.
That’s a problem with journalism in both the UK and the US, as it happens. Being an English major teaches one how to write a complete sentence, and to use language to manipulate the reader’s thoughts. That’s what they teach in editorial classes as well. It’s all about controlling the experience to a certain end. In theory, the idea is to reduce waste and redundancy, to make the language clear and succinct, in order to get the desired point across. Even in those radio production courses at certain schools which are essentially a fast track to Radio 4, the curriculum is designed around creating character studies and topical essays, rather than informing the public or making any sense at all.
Of course, this fails to teach the student anything about true impartiality or critical thinking. Instead, emotionalism rules the day.
Since you’re not an idiot Radio 1 DJ, I think you can work out the math from there to see what I mean.
David Preiser writes: “Being an English major teaches one how to write a complete sentence, and to use language to manipulate the reader’s thoughts.”
I don’t think I’d mind quite so much if it did. The days have long since passed when the majority of English degree courses in this country taught such things. Possibly, it is different in the USA.
Most University English teaching today seems to be a sub-set of sociology.
Such technical skills as the undergraduates recruited to the BBC possess are hammered into them ‘on the job’.
You can hear the lamentable results, daily, where solecisms abound.
“Jason | 24.08.08 – 11:48 pm”
i thought you were taking the piss until i actually clicked through…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7580207.stm
staggering..
who the f**k are these people? they obviously havent got a clue about the idea of “personal responsibility”..
Saul F | 24.08.08 – 10:48 pm
just watching the speech being replayed on sky news…
jeez – i’ve got a chesire cat smile after hearing it again.
the man is a treasure – no doubt about it…
“In most Muslim communities girls don’t start wearing the hijab until they reach puberty.”
In fact,wearing the hijab is an Arab custom not of the Indian sub-continent.It is increasingly worn by Muslims in the West as a statement of identity.
Boris has been getting slagged on the BBC about it (what a shock) but Sky thought it was quite funny.
and what sort of “identity” we that be?
a “we hate you kuffars” kind of identity?
or a “we really want to stand out and we want to rub 7/7 in your face every fucking day” kind of identity?
utter bollocks. i view the hijab as i view the S.S. uniform – both are fascist, and both should be treated with utter contempt.
David Preiser (USA): I don’t know David. ITV and others have a similar crap evening line up.
I tend to stick to the likes of Discovery, National Geographic etc for my entertainment, but still have to pay £140 a year for BBC “Chav” TV.
“Martin | 25.08.08 – 1:03 am | ”
indeed it was. it was meant to be mirthful.
sky treated it very well.
Martin | 25.08.08 – 1:06 am
have you tried zattoo yet?
http://www.zattoo.com
it aint bad – terrestrial and digital tv via your computer. for free.
The reason there are so many women in high positions at the BBC is because so many ‘white middle class’ men ensured their recruitment during the height of feminist media bulldozing in the 80s. The white middle class male Etonians that previously dominated the BBC effectively committed suicide in their desperation to appease the femi-nazis cries of sexism during that decade.
Now we can sit and watch a pack of talentless white middle class Etonian women surrender themselves to the cries of ‘racism’ by Islam so a pack of hate-filled religious zealots can dominate the BBC and openly promote terrorism and their poisonous religion into the facile minds of lazy, telly induced Brits.
That – as we all know – is where the death of political correctness will end, and the ultimate demise of Britain will begin.
Swings and roundabouts, eh?
i see that the leader of the pakistani peoples party is declaring on BBC news 24 that we are losing the war against islamofascism..
oh right. so the surge in iraq is ignored. the fact that the u.s. army beat the crap out of the islamists in iraq is ignored.
no – lets get some pakistani politician on the bbc airwaves telling us that the war is lost.
well done bbc.. nice morale booster there.
koop, Andy (above).
Yes, that Lyse Douset is on the BBC Islamic jihad side in Afghanistan:
“BBC presenter Lyse Douset: Media fail to convey ‘humanity of the Taliban'”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2613717/BBC-presenter-Lyse-Doucet-Media-fail-to-convey-humanity-of-the-Taliban.html
As Martin pointed out earlier today here:
We don’t get patriotic, pro-British reports like this from the BBC on the Taliban:
“Liz Jones:The Women of Kabul would tell us why British troops really are heroes”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1048634/LIZ-JONES-The-women-Kabul-tell-British-troops-really-heroes.html
British troops are putting their lives on the line against the inhuman Islamic jihadist enemy, the Taliban, and all we get from the anti-British Ms. Doucet is her propaganda about the ‘humanity'( unspecified), not the inhumanity of the anti-infidel murderous Taliban. Ms. Doucet grossly under-reports the horrors of her chums, the Taliban.
And Ms. Doucet has the gall to say that WE are not asking the right questions! She is totally unconcerned about her own misunderstanding of global jihad, so politically embedded does she appear to be with the Islamic jihad enemies, such as her ‘human’ Taliban.
Ms. Doucet should be replaced. She cannot be trusted to present anything but the propaganda of the Islamic jihad enemies of Britain. She personifies the worst of BBC reporting. She’d be more at home on Al Jazeera TV Englsh, up the road, I’m sure she has friends there. And John Simpson can go with her.
Kill the Beeb | 25.08.08 – 1:10 am
indeed – i shed no tears for the likes of Jeremy Paxman.
its bit late for that..
their political correctness DIRECTLY resulted in the 7/7 bombings.
i hope their proud of themselves.
Martin:
I really do have to comment on your latest posting without sounding confrontational.
You are very vociferous and unforgiving about the BBC. You have made many suggestionms on what should be done to the BBC.
But here you are yourself, admitting that you pay the telly tax.
Sorry mate, but if you haven’t got the balls yourself to refuse to pay the BBC gestapo without fear of what could happen to yourself, I don’t see why anyone should take your suggestions of what should be done to the BBC remotely seriously.
I have never paid the telly tax in my life, and find it shocking that there are so many people up here that are opposed to the BBC that go ahead and pay it.