MID WEEK OPEN THREAD….

Time for a new one of these. As Alan points out, why the BBC are virtually breathless with excitment about a possible “Neo Nazi cell” in the British Army. (Even as they ignore the 30,000 suspected Jihadi amongst us). Detail the bias here!

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  1. Venutius says:

    Bias personified!

    Following the arrests of a “Neo Nazi cell” in the British Army, yesterday radio 5 offered an afternoon scare fest on the dangers of far right extremism. The bile was punctuated with echo chamber, academic bubble experts offering re-programming and re-education to anyone with illiberal views. Essentially The 52%!

    To save you the full hour and self-harm risk, I’ve listed 2 fascinating exchanges below:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b093lbxt

    1. Listen from 32 minutes to Nihal Arthanayake’s response a text. A truly astonishing reply!

    2. Listen from 55mins 45 seconds to the exchange between Arthanayake and a ‘caller from the East of England’.

    There is only one mention of the ‘far Left’, throughout the whole hour, dismissed as posing no national threat. Incredible, given communism in the 20th century alone is responsible for more than 100 million deaths.

    Enjoy the raw Bias at it’s best!

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    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Listening to the lady calling from ‘the East of England’ and the bullying response of Mr Arthanayake tells you all you need to know about:

      1. The attitude of the BBC to the indigenous population of this island
      2. The attitude of the BBC to anyone from outside the ‘multicultural paradise’ of London

      … and that attitude is totally, utterly sadistic and merciless.

      I was intrigued by Mr Arthanayake’s sarcastic and unfeeling comments earlier in response to people fearing their country was being overwhelmed by foreigners, his response being along the lines of “people in ‘vast swathes’ of the world didn’t want to be invaded either – so now it’s payback time”. Assuming he is referring to British Colonialism I’d like to point out that was all a long time ago, and no one in my family was involved in actually invading any where (at least as far as I know), they certainly didn’t benefit from our so called ‘plundering of other nations’ in any way. In fact the only ancestors of mine I know about who went overseas went to work as medical volunteers, entirely for the benefit of the ‘invaded’, as I’m sure many others did in various fields.

      The main thing that raised my bile though was his clear lack of sympathy or understanding for anyone else’s point of view on this, you don’t have to agree with someone necessarily to be able to empathise with their concerns, do you? That is the main thing I’ve come to hate about the vocal and ‘elite’ (entirely self appointed) left in recent years, their complete and utter lack of empathy for anyone who doesn’t share their narrowly defined views on life. In many cases I get the impression they’d happily have anyone who dissents silenced in some kind of permanent fashion.

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  2. Up2snuff says:

    Back to work Week at the Beeb #1

    They are obviously missing their hols at W1A. The BBC appear to have something of an alcohol obsession at present, if their web-site and radio output is anything to go by.

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Twitter : #BBCwomen issue a statement calling for transparency on pay
    OK that contradicts the way the BBC salary report actually hid most salaries. is commercial divisions and shell companies etc.
    More info on twitter under the #bbcWomen hashtag
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    • Kaiser says:

      so they will be cutting all the males wages , no?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Full Transparency will reveal extent in beeboid income from external sources due to platform the licence payer provided.
      Income such as newspaper/mag columns, TV commercials , public speaking etc
      But sure BBCwomen earn more from photoshoots than men
      Magazines feature much more photos of women than men.

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  4. Dave666 says:

    I posted this in the wrong thread, Doooh! Here we go again. Breakfast back on fatty food yet again. This time it’s upselling or going large. No one on there to tell them adults can make decisions for themselves and to shut up.Weather drone mentions rising sea levels and climate change blah blah blah. Someone even mentioned the good old buy one get one free again. I don’t know what others do but if I get a buy one get one free or multiple purchase deal I tend to use a thing called a freezer rather than put the item(s) straight in the bin. Meanwhile http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41129960 We had a pub lunch on Tuesday they asked if we wanted large cokes we said no, I at no pont felt the staff were trying to trick me.

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  5. Lord Wreath says:

    I’m sure it’s been pointed out many times here that the BBC’s obsession with right-on minority issues is part of a much wider problem which virtually every organisation to the left of the BNP has been infected with:

    Meet the steering coordinator of the Trust’s LGBTQ+ network

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    Further comment is superfluous.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Lord W, “a much wider problem which virtually every organisation to the left of the BNP has been infected with”

      LOL!

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Meet the steering coordinator of the Trust’s LGBTQ+ networkan alternative is “Meet the steering coordinator of the Trust’s H- (everyone except Heterosexuals) network”.

      As an out gay man, have you personally ever had to deal with any prejudice? How do you react to that?

      Yes, although I think it’s sometimes not meant but felt. The staff team on site have been great and are allies in their own right. However, I have had a couple of incidents on site with people assuming the sex of my partner. It’s about being open, tolerant and educating people but, if people step over the line, which has happened, I call it out.

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      • Kaiser says:

        if most men asked whether my partner was man or woman or if i asked most men, a punch in the mouth would most likely ensue

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        • BigBrotherCorporation says:

          A few years ago I was talking to a sales rep. about ‘my partner’, I’d assumed it was quite obvious that I was referring to my business partner seeing as we were in our office and talking about our work, but apparently not as she suddenly blurted out “I didn’t realise you were… um… you know, gay”. To be honest it was more ludicrous than anything else, but it does show how the meaning of certain terms is changed by constant, repeated use in a certain way.

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  6. Guest Who says:

    BBC Today on Facebook:

    “We are supposed to have a relationship, we are overseas territories.”

    The British government is coming under fire over its lack of assistance during Hurricane Irma to its overseas territories like Anguilla. Island resident Josephine Gumbs-Conner isn’t happy about it.”

    Well, there’s a thing. Someone somewhere is not happy and the British government is under fire.

    And yet somehow grumpy Jo and the BBC have found each other in whinge force 10 before the last corrugated roofing panel floats back down to earth.

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    • Lord Wreath says:

      I’m sure they’ll have several people on the ground as soon as the hotels have been cleaned up and the sun has re-emerged.

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    • chrisH says:

      “A citizen of the world alone: loves every country but his own”
      A great George Canning line that sums up the idiot left at the BBC.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Don’t interfere with us we want to decide our own fate and make our own decisions.
      Oh, wait a storm is coming – why are you not helping us during our hour of need.

      BBC keep using ‘British Territories’ all the time now – Britain is responsible, in the hour of need.

      BBC News at 10PM – “Hurricane victims asking if Climate Change is responsible” – but no actual people to ask. BBC failure.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Victoria Derbyshire is adding to salary
    Her memoir is being serialised in the Times from Saturday
    Not a BBC salary but money she wouldn’t be getting if the licence payers hadn’t provided the platform.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Does the UK fee payers get shares back from the sales of Victoria Derbyshire memoir being dividend holders with a say in the BBC corporation, whose wages of the staff we have to pay under threat of prison?

      Happy Days! Can’t wait for the Victoria Derbyshire film and BBC TV series which will be sold to the corporate arm of the BBC Company which generates income but does not share the profits with the TV License Fee payers. (BBC Facts : £147 / £3.5bn / 180,000 Undocument TV License prosecutions in 2016)

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      • Grant says:

        What on earth can she have ever done in her life which is worth writing about ? Anyway, she does not need the money so I am sure she will donate any royalties to charity. Who would buy the book anyway ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      From Sept 21st : Book, audiobook, live ticketed tour
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      • MarkyMark says:

        StewGreen – the subject is Cancer, just like Islamophobia I’m not allowed to belittle or hate what is said. I agree with everything in the book and with everything she says, even though I’ve not read ‘Dear Cancer Love Victoria’ or the Koran.

        We are all immigrants. And sufferers. One God.

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  8. gaxvil says:

    The bbc is like some bloke, lives down the road, does nothing and completely non achieving and unproductive, but keeps turning up to tell you what you should be doing, thinking and saying.
    Very, very annoying added to which you pay him money or else!

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    • chrisH says:

      Until last year, the BBC and their goons in the Guardian thought themselves to be The Beak at some nanny school, hogwarts kind of private dump or club. Where only they get to mark the homeworks, set up the common room kangaroo courts and control what mail goes in and out to the saps beneath.
      But how it`s postal correspondence and passed post it notes direct to the new school board. The former regime refuse to go or to learn though-just squat in as usual and continue to fantasise about their homework marking or court decisions. None of us are listening or giving a damn about their rulings and musings…it`s all droolings now, and we know it.
      As their pay rates reveal-the BBC can only crap on their own shagpile, put up plaques to underage bird baiters like John Peel-and continue to run on into the sands and then over their cliff.
      Stop paying, subvert and get under their skin and into their studios…more people need to know we`ve won.

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  9. Doublethinker says:

    Suu Kyi, the Burmese leader , once the darling of the BBC and the liberal left, has suddenly become very unpopular in those self same circles due the Buddhist government which she leads forcing Muslims out of the country. No doubt yesterday’s heroin will soon be labelled a far right facist by the BBC. Now in my view if the Bhuddists are in conflict with the Muslims it confirms the view that Muslims find it difficult to live in harmony with just about anyone. Perhaps rather than immediately turn on their former pin up girl the BBC and the rest of the liberal left ought to consider why the Bhuddists are in this conflict in the first place and why Christians are being persecuted in Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Egypt . Is there a common denominator ?

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    • Kaiser says:

      is there anywhere? anywhere in the world where they are a large minority where there is not trouble?

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    • Grant says:

      DT,

      If anyone can’t get on with Buddhists, there is something severely wrong with them.

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      • Beeb Brother says:

        I was just about to post the same sentiment.

        Their entire philosophy is about accepting bad things will happen and being at one with the universe. If you turn such peaceful people to violence you are doing something very wrong.

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  10. Up2snuff says:

    Back to work Week at the Beeb #2
    Have the Beeboids in News & Current Affairs been spoofed again? I listened to the news headlines on TODAY (R4, 7.30am) and the full news at 8am today (7th September) and an item in both had mysteriously disappeared from the 8.30am and 9am headlines.

    It was about the snack & food extras that people are offered in shops, cafes and restaurants. It was quite hilarious and appeared to me, as presented at 7.30 and 8am, to clearly be Fake or FalseNews. That could be down to some serious script deficiencies on the part of the Newsreader & their Editor or it could be somebody presenting a spoof ‘University or Public Body research item’

    I wonder if it was covered during the Today Programme. It was not listed in the running order but not everything is and items get switched or cancelled, sometimes in the last few seconds before scheduled broadcast. The News bulletins, however, are rather different.

    Apparently it is now up on the web-site with a chance to comment:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41129960

    Do join in the fun.

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    • charmbrights says:

      It is not a fake; The Royal Society for Public Health really did make such a pronouncement. Of course it is not in any meaningful sense an authoritative body. It is a charity run by Phil Hunt, sorry Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, a former minor labour party division loobby fodder now moved to the comfort of the Lords.

      Their web site says We are recognised by Ofqual to award regulated qualifications in a range of subjects including pest control, health improvement and food safety. It was formed in October 2008. Why it has a Royal Charter is a mystery.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        charm, yes. It’s on the web-site as an HYS as I mentioned but not only is it a ‘rubbish’ announcement of finding from the RSPH it also appears that the BBC have been a bit naughty with their choice of headline for the w/s article. The BBC & the RSPH are rightly attracting some opprobrium for this one.

        I wonder how much taxpayer money the RSPH receive? And why do we need a fully taxpayer funded (I assume) Public Health England in addition to an existing Royal Society for Public Health (England)?

        Who was it in late summer 2010, in David Cameron’s new Government, who was responsible for the Bonfire of the Quangoes? Francis Maude? No longer an MP I think. Didn’t he do well?

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  11. MarkyMark says:

    Mr. Islam meets Mr. Reality. Australian Senate considers new rules after burka stunt {bbc.co.uk sep2017}
    (Could not find this story on main BBC pages)

    Australian politicians could be held to stricter dress codes in the Senate after one wore a burka as a stunt.
    Pauline Hanson, leader of the far-right One Nation party, donned a burka in Australia’s upper house last month to publicise her bid to ban the garment.
    ….
    Attorney-General George Brandis received a standing ovation in the Senate after saying Ms Hanson’s stunt was “appalling” and risked alienating Australian Muslims.
    Australia would not ban the burka, he added.

    – A quick question – did male Imam’s around the world wear a hijab on international hijab day (Stand For Her Right To Cover, 1stFeb) to show their commitment to women’s and hijab wearing rights?
    “ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – A powerful Pakistani religious body that advises the government on the compatibility of laws with Islam on Thursday declared a new law that criminalizes violence against women to be “un-Islamic.”” {reuters.com mar2016}

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  12. Kaiser says:

    school uniform

    does any one wonder as to the real meaning of the word “DECENCY” in this article

    anyway just how many transgender pupils does this school have pray tell, and surely transgenders wish to pick their attire

    imagine going to the length of chopping off your knob, but not being allowed to wear a skirt

    jeez you can pick a penis (or not) but cant make a choice between skirt and trousers

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  13. chrisH says:

    Reading extracts from AN Wilsons critique of Darwin. He`s had a lot of criticism-Darwin is Dawkins God, so there`s a lot of muck to rake up. But if we see our “social evolution” in simple terms-then I happen to think that “We the People” need Brexit and Trump if we are to have any chance of getting better off or choking off islam.
    The elite clearly would rather we get neither Brexit or Trump succeeding-just let them cream off our money and shut us up until islam comes along, once the pink komonsol have leeched all possible good out of what our grandparents fought for.
    This is a civil war in the offing, we cant afford to lose it.

    Yesterday the BBC led with a Guardian leaked draft report-and today the BBC lead with some EU gossip “as seen by the BBC” in regard of Ireland.
    Two days running-gossip, illegal nicks and fake news to put Brexit on the skids if they can do it. Not news-this is treachery and fake news. Where are the bloody Tories or UKIP in all this?
    This cannot stand. Evolution has weeded out the likes of Farron and Clegg-I need to see the likes of Soubry and Heseltine, Sturmer and Cable removed, one way or another.
    “Necessity now forces us to head off the progressives, if we lose their heads then that`s a price we need to buy at”…to rewrite Hitler as quoted in Wilsons book.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Times : david aaronovitch
      “Attempts to denigrate Darwin and doubt man-made climate change are part of a worrying trend to ignore the evidence”

      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-can-t-allow-superstition-to-trump-science-zs2hhb9q3

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      • Grant says:

        How can he link the two ? He is an idiot. And he has no background in science so can be ignored.

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    • Cranmer says:

      What amuses me about how lefties idolise Darwin is that his theories were used to justify quite a lot of things that give the left an attack of the vapours, like eugenics programmes and the ‘strong man’ theories that led from Nietszche to the Nazis. All that of course is forgotten, because any criticism of Darwin is seen as the preserve of wild eyed redneck Christian fundamentalists from the USA. (Certain other fundamentalists of another religion which is not enamoured of Darwin’s theories are, of course, also neatly forgotten about).

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  14. Up2snuff says:

    Back to work Week at the Beeb #3

    Laura Part-Time Kuenssberg is back at the BBC. She had not appeared in my hearing for several weeks. Her last Blog (before her summer break?) was on the 19th July. She is back and has Blogged on Tuesday and again yesterday but neither are open to comments from BBC web-site registered users.

    More on Laura P-T another time.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC TV License Payers request the hours worked by each employee over £80K. Plus the BBC expenses/gifts to made available online to the public.

      How can Gary ‘£1.75m + Crisps + BT Sports + Charity Work’ Lineker possibly work a 40 hour week at the BBC? Just wondering how he fills his time.

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  15. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Anyone finding it distasteful (and predictable) that they are going after JRM with the same tactics that stopped Farron.
    They keep wanting him to say something they can they twist and use against him.

    JRM is far too clever for them but he should be aware that they can see he is a danger to them and they are taking the threat of him becoming pm seriously because they know he is more representative of the ordinary people than most of the rest of them in that den of thieves.

    Will they wear him down or somehow ruin him?
    They fear him so he needs to be careful.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Jacob Rees-Mogg just needs to say he’s talked to Ali G the comedian and it’s all OK.


      “Ali G Show – Lords {youtube jun2012}”

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    • Grant says:

      Emmanuel,

      They will try and destroy the Mogginator but he is a tough cookie.

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    • StewGreen says:

      LBC last night pointed out
      Farron case was different
      ..he was hounded cos he wouldn’t come out and declare his positions

      So does firmly declaring your positions stop the hounding ?
      Not for JRM , they hound him anyway.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Of course the Catholic Church will come out and back JRM plus all the Muslim Imams? Would be an interesting debate.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      EG, you have a point although yesterday, when JR-M’s opposition to abortion was considered by the BBC to be highly newsworthy, I did wonder whether he had been a little bit clever.

      If he genuinely does not want high office, he can keep putting out a strong line on a variety of issues that upset Libbies, Lefties and Alt-Lefties. (I nearly added ‘and Altes-UnMentsh’ but thought better of it in this day and age.) Most likely he will have people so enraged he can have a fruitful and happy career just winding people up while looking after his constituents.

      On the other hand, he may then find he has 60%-75% of the country, who are stuck in the middle between the so-called ‘Left’ and ‘Right’, screaming for him to be PM and to rescue them from the unholy squeeze.

      In the event of the latter occurring, JR-M will have all his beliefs firmly and clearly out there and can then point to his massive public support as their being no hindrance his appointment to one of the senior Cabinet posts.

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  16. ScottishCalvin says:

    My cartoon for the week:

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    • Grant says:

      “Hurricane Vince “. LOL !

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      • chrisH says:

        An asthmatic wheeze that smells of mothballs and old eggs…that blows hard enough to blow the football to the edge of the cardboard pitches penalty box; but ends in heaviy breathing, then a death rattle.
        From Penhaligon to Cable-via Norman Scott, Cyril Smith, Mark Oaten.
        Yeek-liberals are truly shits aren`t they?

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  17. MarkyMark says:

    Why? Why? Why? Canada has quietly granted asylum to LGBT Chechens {bbc.co.uk sep2017}.

    Word Search: Gay x 18; LGBT x 15; Government x 9 ; Chechens x 10; Christian x 0; Muslim x 0

    Why? Why? Why? In other news the BBC might be interested in …

    Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov (Chechnya
    Russian Muslim Leader) says he condones (accepts) honour killings of gay people {independent.co.uk jul2017}

    ‘If we have [gay] people here, I’m telling you officially their relatives won’t let them be because of our faith (Muslim), our mentality, customs, traditions’
    – they connected pliers to my genitals (Chechen gay man being interviewed about his treatment in Chechnya)

    The ruling created a controversy, with both Islamic theologians and secular commentators condemning it, with some seeing it as a bid by Kadyrov to divide Russian Muslims into those who accept the importance he places on teachings of the Sufi brotherhoods as well as probably also what he considers as “traditional Islam” without question, and those who don’t with “erroneous” views. {wiki}

    – BBC ‘£3.5bn’ News Service please help me understand the World views of the Muslim Chechen Government and what is happening, why are their views so anti-gay? Do I still have to pay you £147 under threat of prison for such news reports?

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  18. BRISSLES says:

    Wry smile at the thought of Lineker’s holiday home in Barbados crumbling like a bag of Walkers in the hurricane. Will he be tweeting that the Government are to blame, and claiming compensayshun ?

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    • Grant says:

      Brissles,

      If a thick footballer like Lineker believes in climate change, why did he buy a house in Barbados, given the history of hurricanes ? Ah, I answered the question . Thick footballer.

      Meanwhile , in little Gambia, during the rainy season so far, the Government estimate that 8000 people have been made homeless and at least 5 have died by drowning. But , it is normal, it happens every year. I am going back next week to see for myself and , thank God I shall not bump into Lineker.

      By the way, all kudos to Joss Stone for being there this week, giving a concert and visiting a kids charity run by a British friend of mine. His comment ” She is genuine, not fake like Bob Geldof ” !

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Can I stop paying the BBC license as I’m not interested in these people Lineker and Evans … oh, wait seems that I have to pay Gary Lineker’s wages under threat of prison.

        But luckily he’s a Labour socialist so money is not relevant and he’s given it all back to society, just as Jeremy Corbyn and Keith Vaz would want him to do …. once he’s rebuilt his holiday home.

        Many Thanks Comrade Lineker!

        Gary ‘£1.75m from wages paid under threat of prison’ Lineker nets Barbados villa (£2.2m) {dailymail.co.uk jan2005}
        It’s not a bad holiday pad for the son of a Leicester market trader.
        With five bedrooms, magnificent ocean views, a 50ft heated swimming pool and luxurious marble bathrooms, the colonialstyle mansion has pretty much everything Gary Lineker could want.
        … appropriately situated on Flamboyant Drive {link to an example house}, one of the most exclusive addresses in Barbados

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        • Grant says:

          Marky,

          Wouldn’t it be funny if it was uninsured. I don’t suppose premiums are cheap there . And as a socialist, Lineker will be very mean with money. Maybe saved a few bob on the insurance.

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          • MarkyMark says:

            Gary ‘£1.75m from wages paid under threat of prison’ Lineker will just cash in his BBC TV pension early and the public and future payers get to foot the bill.

            For the Many (who pay Gary Lineker’s wages), Not the Few (who can lose a Barbados Luxury Villa)

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Grant
        Hope your family keep safe.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    11am R4 Crossing Contingents
    – Bulgaria built a string fence all the way across the border with Turkey
    – It’s only admitted 50 Mediterranean crossing refugees.

    Funny the BBC never told us this before

    The prog was mainly about how many Bulgarian villages are depopulating.
    But instead of accepting other culture migrants they are trying to increase birthrate. Arguing accommodating different culture people is problematic.

    UK used to have a policy of seeking migrants from similar cultures

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    • ObiWan says:

      “…accommodating different culture people is problematic…”

      Sure is, and Bulgaria is far from alone in admitting it. When was the last time any of these regressive flakes called-out Japan on its vehemently nationalistic, anti-foreigner immigration policies? Take some time to look up Japan’s muslim minority (it’s tiny for a reason!).

      In fact, look across most of SE Asia and you’ll find – Shock! Horror! – countries actually believe in enforcing their immigration policies and international border controls. Try getting a long-stay, work or retirement Visa in Thailand, for instance. You’ll need plenty (and I mean PLENTY) of cash (a large chunk of which has to be lodged permanently in a Thai Bank in Thailand and be shown to exist every time you renew your Visa); as a ‘farang’ (foreigner) you won’t ever be permitted to own a majority share in any property (even if you paid for the whole thing); you’ll have to report to Thai Immigration every 90 days with all your documents and proof of your address, finances and even supporting statements from Thai neighbours that you do live where you claim; and you won’t be able to work in Thailand unless you specifically have a Thai Work Visa (very hard to get and many jobs are restricted to Thais-only)…and the list of proscriptions and legal hurdles goes on and on.

      How very anti-immigration of the Thai authorities! Where are the lefties jumping up and down about this clear abuse of us poor immigrants?

      *tumbleweed.jpg*

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      • Up2snuff says:

        ObiWan: “In fact, look across most of SE Asia and you’ll find – Shock! Horror! – countries actually believe in enforcing their immigration policies and international border controls.”

        Not just in SE Asia but in so-called southern Asia.

        Maybe that’s why the BBC hates India so much at present. It is largely Hindu, seeks to keep the Muslim population under control and most of the States seek to restrict or limit permanent immigration from around the world, including from Britain.

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  20. G says:

    The ‘Think Tank’ CIVITAS – ‘The implications of the UK’s rapidly increasing population’ –

    Click to access britainsdemographicchallengeweb.pdf

    Lord Hodgson writes: ‘The people of this country are entitled to have laid out before them the range of challenges and opportunities that demographic change will cause. Given the apparent scale of that demographic change and the long-term impact of any policy decisions such a debate should begin sooner rather than later.’
    “….a debate…” – No doubt any criticism of islam will be discouraged under threat of imprisonment and total banning of coming within 10 yards of a bacon sandwich.
    Bit late for to have “…..laid out before them the range of challenges…” Challenges = war.

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  21. MarkyMark says:

    From the BBC World View to the real world …

    Forget the Berlin Wall — This is the Vienna Wall {gatesofvienna 02sep17}
    “Yes, a wall is being constructed in Vienna” (02Sep17), the Interior Ministry announces. It will be 80 centimetres high, one meter wide (what happened to building bridges rather than walls), and surround the historical Ballhausplatz. The concrete wall is meant to protect the Chancellery and the office of the president from possible terror attacks.

    “The wall is a security measure for the protection of the government district,” the spokesman for the ministry, Alexander Marakovits, explains. Until now, basically everyone could drive towards it. The one-meter-wide concrete wall will make sure that no vehicle can get through in a worst-case scenario.

    image.jpg

    It seems history is not without a sense of irony …

    nintchdbpict000329157320.jpg?strip=all&w=960
    – no campaigning to remove the walls on the bridge?

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  22. Beeb Brother says:

    That even the uber liberal Beeb has ended up having many white men as its highest earners shows how hard it is in reality to have complete parity amongst all religions, races and genders. I imagine an aspiring taxi driver from Bradford whose parents do not value education is less likely to become a good radio presenter than someone with pushy parents who studied English at Cambridge.

    It is almost as if all cultures are not equal.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I imagine an aspiring taxi driver from Bradford whose parents do not value education is less likely to become a good radio presenter
      No, but he could become a bad radio presenter or TV presenter at the BBC.

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      • Beeb Brother says:

        It must be great to know that no matter how badly you do your job you will probably never be held accountable as people are so terrified of being accused of racism.

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  23. Lord Wreath says:

    This is about the DT, not the BBC, but is loosely related to a series of comments here a short while ago about colour blind casting. However, it’s sad how the BBC’s way of looking at these issues seems to have spread to parts of the MSM which used to know better:

    ‘You can’t have black people being racist about each other’: did the National Theatre’s first ‘colourblind casting’ experiment work?

    Whole article is paywalled and I’m not prepared to put money into the DT (I’m also working on persuading ‘er indoors to agree to cancelling the TV Licence). However, the bits you can read for free are bad enough:

    “The year 1981 stands out as a low point in black British history. In January, 13 young black people burned to death in a house fire in New Cross, south London, following what was widely believed to be a racially motivated arson attack. The Metropolitan Police were heavily criticised for not investigating this possibility and, two months later, a number of black activists including Darcus Howe, organised a march known as the “Black People’s Day of Action”.”

    I remember the “Deptford fire”, as it used to be known, quite clearly. Local troublemakers insisted, in the total absence of evidence, that the fire was started by white racists, or the police, or both. It is extremely dishonest of the DT to imply that these accusations had some foundation by stating “what was widely believed to be a racially motivated arson attack”, without any qualification (unless it appears later in the article, which I doubt). Disgraceful lying by omission – well known tactic used by the BBC.

    – There was never any evidence of a racially motivated arson attack.
    – Some witnesses lied in their statements.
    – Forensic investigation revealed that the fire started inside the house.

    I’ve heard it suggested that the murder of Stephen Lawrence was the “Deptford fire” the “community” never had.

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    • chrisH says:

      I wonder what time it was when Darcus Howe chose to put out his spliff dimp that fateful night.
      And has he any proof that he himself didn`t want the career boost of this fire, and so drew attention to himslef by causing it?
      Just saying-the old coot is wormfood now, but I believe we need an enquiry.
      No more daft that Ted Heath being a satanist…and Darcus was a wrong `un as we all know.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      It is so annoying how SJWs wallow in past injustices as there is clearly such a dearth of issues these days. I wish they could just celebrate all the victories they have won and forget about the past. Japan had the second biggest economy forty years after the atomic bombs were dropped. Victim culture gets you nowhere.

      As Douglas Murray says, one of the unspoken inconveniences of mass immigration is constantly having to talk about race. Most people are sick and tired of it.

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      • Lord Wreath says:

        Yes, and how it seems to be acceptable to risk “stirring up racial hatred” amongst blacks, but not anyone else.

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        • Beeb Brother says:

          That transgender model had clearly been taught racial hatred, no doubt under the rubric of ‘equality.’

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  24. charmbrights says:

    Something different. BBC4 last evening had a programme about the weather, and how to forecast it. And they went for 55 minutes without mentioning climate change!

    It was informative and mostly accurate, though I winced at the “demonstration” of chaotic behaviour.

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  25. MarkyMark says:

    Operation Sanctuary: More jailed for roles in grooming ring {bbc.co.uk 06sep17}
    Four more men have been jailed for their part in a drugs and grooming ring that forced young women to have sex.

    The court heard from a young female victim who still suffers from regular night terrors and now sleeps with a knife by her bedside.

    She also repeated her statement from a previous sentencing that there was no evidence for the offences being racially aggravated and the gang had picked out their victims because they were young and vulnerable.

    During the investigation Northumbria Police paid a child rapist more than £10,000 to act as an informant.

    Word Search: racial x 1; muslim x 0; rape x 3;

    – Why not end with the news that a girl cannot sleep safely for the rest of her life instead of the police had to pay for information to a rapist rather than information on the rapists given freely from the community?
    – Not ‘racially aggravated’ but another site says: One Muslim rapist said: “All white women are good for one thing, for men like me to f*** and use as trash, that is all women like you are worth.” {jihadwatch.org sep17}
    – If the BBC are unwilling to report these cases adequately can they just provide some links to the court case and the reporters notes.
    – BBC £3.5bn News Service more accurate reporting on ‘poo after Tinder date’.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      A girl used to tell me a similar story. It is an urban myth and not even original.

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  26. MarkyMark says:

    School sends ‘wrong trousers’ pupils home {bbc.co.uk sep2017 – top story on news site}

    … this story is lead story on BBC website, will be interesting to know what really happened. Such as you can’t send kids home immediately because parents will need to leave work and pick them up. I imagine a letter would be sent out to remind parents. … but let’s not follow other cultures and traditions too closely ….

    Saudi police ‘stopped’ fire rescue (stopped 15 schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress) {bbc.co.uk mar 2002}

    “Saudi Arabia’s religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.
    In a rare criticism of the kingdom’s powerful “mutaween” police, the Saudi media has accused them ofhindering attempts to save 15 girls who died in the fire on Monday .
    About 800 pupils were inside the school in the holy city of Mecca when the tragedy occurred.

    The religious police are widely feared in Saudi Arabia. They roam the streets enforcing dress codes and sex segregation, and ensuring prayers are performed on time.

    Those who refuse to obey their orders are often beaten and sometimes put in jail.”

    – Is this a snapshot of a future, where enforcing dress codes or practices stops the mind and normal morals from working. This was only 15 years ago in Saudi Arabia!

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  27. StewGreen says:

    Pope/Catholic
    4:30pm Radio 4 Adam Rutherford is back from his hols
    I wonder if he’ll run a Greenblob story ?
    Duh ! ” How will marine life respond to warming of the seas around Antarctica this century?
    Dramatically, according to the results of the most realistic attempt so far to warm the sea bed to temperatures predicted for the coming decades … ” simulation of a 2C rise “above today’s chilly waters” caused some species to diminish

    BTW Many don’t expect even a 1C rise in the coming decades. 2 extra degrees by 2100 is high by IPCC estimates
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b092jw89

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    • StewGreen says:

      Scientist on prog appeared to use a different baseline from “today’s”
      He must mean from the industrial era.

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  28. Synchronised says:

    Beeb website.
    MUSLIM village burns but TERROR SUSPECTS arrested. I’m sick of this cherry picking.

       7 likes

    • Beeb Brother says:

      The best was when someone almost refused entry to the US was a Muslim but when he was arrested for sexual assault he was just Indian. That one went round the world to the Beeb’s eternal shame.

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  29. Foscari says:

    I expect the whole Arab and Islamic world , and I wouldn’t rule out condemnation from the BBC as well. BUT
    then the Egyptians, Jordanians , The Saudis and others will go home and say in the privacy of their own homes
    say ” praise be to Allah for Israel destroying a chemical weapons plant in Syria.”

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  30. StewGreen says:

    7:30pm ITV prog Breaking into Britain

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  31. Synchronised says:

    In Italy at the moment and RAI1 the state broadcaster at news times generally just reports the news. They of course have a plethora of discussion programmes but it’s very refreshing that the news programme is just that, the news. Makes a change from subliminal opinions oozing from the sofa from third rate “experts”. They also picked up heavily on Hungarys disgruntled reaction to the EUs ruling on migrants, giving it a fair bit of coverage.

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  32. gaxvil says:

    Not sure how much is deliberate and how much is unconscious but we do copy America.
    Hopefully America will regain some sense and order over the next few years. Little things are happening already like dropping ANTIFA and students asserting themselves to display US flags. Parents and donors voting with their wallets and not supporting Left mob colleges.

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  33. StewGreen says:

    BBC1 11:35pm First TV showing of the July BBC3 prog
    Should I marry my Cousin


    Long article here
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/6af25e7b-0545-42ba-a6fa-82ac1023b4ed

       8 likes

    • touchjudge says:

      Why not, if you love her and you want to be murdered by your brother

         11 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

        In the Born in Bradford study, 63% of Pakistani mothers are married to cousins, and within that group there was a doubling of the risk of a baby’s being born with a congenital anomaly. The report also found that “a larger number” of children born to cousins

        “will have health problems that may lead to death, or long term illness for the baby.”

        How much do health issues related to first-cousin marriages cost the NHS, and, given those findings, is it not time that such marriages were outlawed?

        We do not have any financial information, but it is important to point out that the Born in Bradford study showed that there was an increase in the risk of birth defects from 3% to 6% in consanguineous marriages. However, that clearly highlights that not all babies born to couples who are related have a genetic problem, and the key issue is to help women to make an informed choice before they get pregnant and to direct them to genetic counselling where that may be required.

        Born in Bradford Research Study {theyworkforyou}
        Genetic Problems (Children) {theyworkforyou}

        “Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs.”
        – Charles James Napier

        – of course the community can agree that they ran remove this risk of unhealthy babies (3%-6%) entirely without a great cost to the community by removing the tradition.

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  34. DownBoy says:

    Earlier on the thread, Conan was talking about the slot given to leftie elitist remoaner John Le Carre on the Today prog this morning. Le Carre really did whinge almightily about brexit during the interview, which was ostensibly about his novels and the character of George Smiley.
    Still, at least in the interests of balance the Today programme have arranged an upcoming interview with Frederick Forsyth, wherein Freddie gets to diss the remaniacs and tell us how brilliant the vote for Brexit is……… oh wait no….. I made that up. There will be no interview with Freddie. Just remoaner cr*p posing as ‘the arts’ as per usual.

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  35. Some_People_are_Saying... says:

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  36. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Parliament ‘Overcrowding in Prisons’ – House of Lords – lesser sentences seems to be the answer.

    HM Chief Inspector of Prisons for England and Wales Annual Report 2016–17 {pdf}

    Baroness Stern – Crossbencher says if Woolf/1991 report would have changed prison population {pdf}

    – Sorry to bring Islam into this post, I wish I didn’t have to, but the report 2016-2017 does mention immigration but not hate preachers which are new features of prison systems.

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  37. MartinW says:

    In a way, I wish I had not read the article on the Gatestone Institute blog entitled ‘The Islamic Future of Europe’ https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10940/europe-islamic-future It is profoundly depressing – a future hell brought to us by criminally negligent and treasonous politicians aided and abetted, inter alia, by the BBC. I can’t see Western Christian democracy surving, since there is no solution in this country or any other is Western Europe other than forcing most muslims out following an insurrection and military coup.

       26 likes

    • Kaiser says:

      the names of the quisling will go down thru the annuals of history

         4 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Mock them with your last breathe …

      “Islam claims to be a mature and complete vision for life but has been shown to be unable to tolerate books of fiction[1], cartoons[2], women’s beauty[3], women’s opinions[4], alcohol[5], science[6], pigs[7] and a difference of opinion. Can the words inclusive and diverse be used for Islam when it hides behind the word Islamophobia [8]?”

      [1] Fiction – Salman Rushdie, Satanic Verses 1988
      [2] Cartoons – Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy
      [3] Women’s beauty – Islamic Face Veils
      [4] Women’s opinion – Islamic Sharia Councils
      [5] Alcohol – Islamic Halal/Haram
      [6] Science – Koran has all the answers
      [7] Pigs – Islamic Halal
      [8] Islamophobia – Dislike of or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force.

      // {old biasedbbc post}

         17 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Martin,
      There are more commentators willing to say much the same as the Gatehouse Institute these days. Of course it is still a tiny minority of commentators but larger than it was a few years ago. I suspect that these days many of the previous middle class liberal believers in multiculturalism and mass migration now see that it is a cataclysmic error but at present can’t bring themselves to admit it in public. I suppose that ‘coming out ‘ and declaring that migration is not a good thing in today’s climate is similar to admitting to homosexuality twenty or thirty years ago. If the steady trickle of ex believers who go public can be turned into a vigorous stream then things will begin to turn quickly. The biggest and easiest group to convert to common sense are the millions of silly snowflakes who are only pro migration because it is fashionable.
      The key to their conversion is to get a few of their fashion icons to ‘come out , the biggest block to that is the BBC and MSM who excoriate them. Break the BBC and the whole foul edifice of multi culty one worldism will fall quickly . But how do you break the hated corporation?

         7 likes

      • MartinW says:

        For decades, I have long considered the BBC as a force for evil, and that it’s imperative it’s back is broken, limbs cut off and its blood drained away. It has become a monster engaged constantly in subtle and not-so-subtle manipulation of thought and opinion. Apart from a government stepping in (not this one, obviously), I don’t know what can be done. You should be right in thinking ‘big names’ might help, but such is the power of the BBC that they would deny them air-space.

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  38. MarkyMark says:

    EuroNews – Putin and Abe On North Korea “leaders are struggling to an approach to a bellicose Kim Jong-un.

    Bellicose? Bellicose! I had to look the word up rather than let it slip between my ears ….

    Bellicose – demonstrating aggression and willingness to fight.

    I don’t think the word ‘Bellicose’ is a common one used to describe an aggressive state actor unless you want to hide that fact and not call him out for what he is.

    According to Dae-Sook Suh, the cult of personality surrounding the Kim family requires total loyalty and subjugation to the Kim family and establishes the country as a one-man dictatorship through successive generations.[7] The 1972 constitution of North Korea incorporates the ideas of Kim Il-sung as the only guiding principle of the state and his activities as the only cultural heritage of the people.[8] {wiki}

    Check out North Korea’s constitution – seems they want peace not war.
    “Independence, peace, and solidarity are the basic ideals of the foreign policy and the
    principles of external activities of the DPRK.” {pdf}

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  39. gaxvil says:

    The Labour Party, remember them?
    Anyway, they are, somewhat belatedly, setting about copying the US Democrats in terms of blocking, delaying and destroying.

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  40. Beeb Brother says:

    It’s so pathetic all their GOTCHA crap over Rees Mogg and abortion. This is how they have operated for decades: force someone into a corner where they have to say something uncomfortable then wag their finger like spoiled children. When they bully their victim into a humiliating apology then they have that person forever at their mercy and will use it to beat them if they ever commit thought crime again.

    Why not a broad discussion of principles, policies and aspirations – something substantive, maybe even some analysis? Instead we get this same old lazy, reductive approach. No wonder people are watching more Youtubers than the MSM. The alternative media is incredibly head and shoulders above the lame stream.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      BB, I don’t think JR-M will be forced into a corner or an apology. I will be very surprised if he is not very robust in supporting his already expressed view.

         28 likes

      • Dave S says:

        He cannot apologise or retract as all he is doing is expressing orthodox Catholic doctrine. What are the snow flake bodysnatched going to do? March on Westminster Cathedral and organise a hate march on the Vatican?
        They need to grow up.
        It is his own personal belief and view and he is entitled in a free society to it without qualification

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      • Beeb Brother says:

        I don’t think he will either. He has principles. Plus these days you gain more respect for standing up to the liberal bullies.

        Even if I disagree with someone’s opinion I admire principles and honesty. Too many politicians will say or do anything to gain power.

           18 likes

        • Grant says:

          I think abortion is a personal matter of conscience and belief and should not be politicised.

             4 likes

          • Kaiser says:

            They’ve run this line with the DUP, and now with the Mogg , so do they now go after every muslim MP for their deeply held belief’s

               6 likes

            • Grant says:

              Kaiser,

              Is the Pope a catholic ? Don’t tell the BBC, but I think that abortion is legal in most , if not all, muslim countries. Just shows how liberal they are.

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  41. Up2snuff says:

    It was about ten years ago, maybe to the day, that the run on Northern Rock really got started in Newcastle. Rumours had been reaching the media for about a week or so. Then in the week before NR formally sought help, more NR customers elsewhere started to withdraw their money until on the 13th September, the calls to the Bank of England and No.11 & The Treasury were made for assistance.

    The BBC appear to have overlooked the first part of this particular 10 year Anniversary. I wonder why?

    There is no doubt in my mind that if the Chancellor, Alastair Darling, had been pro-active in concert with Mervyn King, the then Governor of the Bank of England, in late August or in the first week of September, they could have dampened the speculation and seen Northern Rock through to safety. The contagion might not then have later involved both Bradford & Bingley Bank and some major retailers as it did. Woolworth’s Pick’n’Mix might have still been common currency for UK shoppers today.

    Alastair Darling not long afterwards made dark references to ‘scars on my back’ and ‘taking a battering’ and I have always wondered (and assumed!) they were a reference to the state of denial and their slow response to the unfolding crisis in which lived the permanent and daytime working inhabitants of No. 10 Downing Street. Apart from Gordon Brown, they included among others, Sue Nye, Michael Ellam, Damian McBride and Beth Russell. The boom and bust that they thought they had abolished had returned.

    Then, of course, as far as the BBC were concerned a certain son of a Labour Peer was working at the BBC as Business Editor at the time.

    Too close to home, eh BBC, to remember?

       15 likes

    • JimS says:

      Don’t forget Vince Cable! He wanted to show everyone how clever he was by highlighting the rolling short-term debt model that Northern Rock was employing. If he had kept his big mouth shut, or acted responsibly by having a quiet word with the treasury, there wouldn’t have been a crisis.

      No bank has sufficient liquid reserves to pay off its creditors in short order. Cable’s action was the classic shouting “Fire!” in a crowded theatre, instead of putting the dropped cigarette in the bin.

      A lot of people lost their jobs and their savings because of this man’s vanity.

         12 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Jim, you are right but I was concentrating my attention on those at the helm and also in the ‘satellite’ Labour Party, why it might not wish to ‘celebrate’ this anniversary.

        I could write screeds on the Sub-prime Crisis and Banking Crash. I even woke up thinking about it this morning.

        Aaugggghhh!

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      About a year before Northern Rock collapsed I had shares worth around £6,000 with them.

      I was serving with HM Forces abroad at the time of the collapse and couldn’t get back to try and get something from them.

      When the dust had settled I was told the shared were worthless. I lost the complete £6,000
      Some shareholders had hundreds of thousands of pounds worth, their pension funds.
      All lost the lot.

      I wonder if any of the bigger fish lost anything, any of the directors and the likes.
      I’m willing to bet that they all somehow managed to get their share.

         4 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        EG, I thought the Northern Rock shareholders & customers were compensated. You ought to check up on that. Did you make any specific claim? Bradford & Bingley shareholders were not but I seem to recall the customers got their money back but think it was only up to the old Deposit Protection limit or the new level introduced later by Alastair Darling.

        I heard the other day, via the BBC I think, that the B&B shareholders have not given up and may yet take HMG back to Court.

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        • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

          U2, I haven’t made any claim but I had seen many on the tv, very distraught at losing their life savings and then hearing that there would be no payment at all, not even a penny in the pound.

          I don’t know where the money had gone but I think some of Northern rock was sold off, the profitable part, and the rest is recovering nicely.
          It’s owned by virgin now.
          It appears that monies have been put in by the government initially and then the government recouped by selling off.

          I think plenty of (rich) people have ended up making a tidy sum out of all this buying and selling. The money had to go somewhere. But my invested sum has gone and I’m good I will not get any of it back.

          It’s a bit like my Army pension.
          I left the Army in March 1975 after paying for 8 years into whatever fund the pension comes from. I am not entitled to any pension.
          If I had left in April 1975 I would be entitled to a pension.
          Apparently that’s the date chosen for pension entitlement.

          I suppose it’s a bit like the new pension of about £155 per week.
          I’m on the old pension of £120 per week after 50 years non stop NI payments.

          I’m not having much luck with my finances am I. At least not the ones other people have some control over.

          Any lawyers out there want to look at this?
          I’ve not much hope as I’m white, straight, British born and bred.

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  42. G.W.F. says:

    Don’t hear much from Pat Condell these days
    This vid is hard to play, and I suspect tampering, but who knows these days.

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  43. david01 says:

    Yasmin watsername- I am a little Englander(1,57m) and I was brought up in England . I speak English, French, Russian,Swahili, Dutch and can hold my own in Flemish and Twi. I do not want to be as smart as Yasmin because I am a Chartered engineer by training and I know lots of people who are smarter than me. I have heard her on occasion when I have been in England and find her comments to be of pea-brain dimensions, lacking in intellectual rigour and typical of the type of people who the MSM consider worthy of public exposure.

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  44. BRISSLES says:

    How many knew this ??? that the BBC has a Diversity Creative Talent Fund. Which is possibly why we are seeing so many ethnic side-kicks in presenting roles.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1283646/ex-footie-ace-dion-dublin-had-training-worth-50k-from-bbc-fund/

    The above link makes for astounding reading. Dion Dublin, hardly on the breadline from his footballing days, but warrants media training, that we pay for, just so he can have a change of career.

    How many names below are recognisable, and are they too recipients of this ‘fund’ ? me neither, but what’s betting they’ll be lined up for future editions of Strictly !!!!

    Danny Clarke – Gardener
    Danny Sebastian – Antiques
    Jay Blade – slaps paint on old furniture and asks on air what hospices do ! Unbelievable.

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  45. Number 7 says:

    I see, in the MSM, that the government are getting a shoeing for not responding to the problems in the British Virgin Islands with sufficient alacrity.
    One question.
    How quickly did the British Virgin Islands respond to the floods in Gloucester/Tewkesbury in 2007? Or the flooding of the Somerset Levels?

       20 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      The ‘social media’ in question is provoked and facilitated mainly by the BBC.

      Their Facebook pages are alive with ‘critics who say’, who the BBC seem to have located as a matter of priority.

      Refreshing to see that, where comment is being enabled, said ‘critics’ and their all too predictable PR pulpit are being called out.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Number 7, you have a point but I think the British Virgin Islands would point out that in the west of England we ought to know about rain and excessive rain and also how to manage our waterways and wetlands after so many centuries of habitation.

      I have been struck how most of the spokespeople for these areas affected by the hurricanes have said “We knew this was coming, we have made our preparations and everyone has been warned. We are now trusting in God.”

      Contrast that with the British & European approach. “WE are God. We have created Climate Change and we have created tax to control and minimise it. We have created acrylic screens along rivers in our town centres and decreed the rivers may not be dredged and the flood defences cannot be overtopped. We are in control.”

      God bless and save the Carib, Central American states and Gulf of Mexico and their inhabitants. They deserve rescue and aid.

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      • G says:

        Up2snuff,
        “………and everyone has been warned. We are now trusting in God.”” Probability is that is the ‘God’ we know and understand. Imagine, elsewhere that statement? It would be a case of competing Gods to save the people utterly dependant upon your particular predeliction. Whichever, whatever, He (or perhaps ‘she’ or even ‘it’ in common-day parlance) will not, on my reckoning, help anyone out.

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  46. gaxvil says:

    I have a terrible confession but I don’t think I’m alone.
    I don’t love Muslims. I don’t love foreigners any more than my neighbours, heck, I’m really not that keen on the neighbours. I don’t love gays just because they are gay. I think people who swap sex for non medical reasons are just deranged and I think abortion is murder.
    Enough to be going on with for now.

       26 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Gas,
      You will never be invited to an Islington dinner party now and if Corbyn is elected you, along with most other posters on this site, will be subject to compulsory state correction . Unlike modern degree and GCSE exams it is very possible to fail the state correction course and again unlike modern education the penalty for failure will be a long visit to the newly founded penal colony on St Kilda.

         9 likes

    • Lord Wreath says:

      gaxvil – a word in your shell-like:

      Unless you have concealed your ip address, pack up and leave.

      GET OUT – NOW!

      I hope it’s not too late.

         4 likes

  47. taffman says:

    “Brexit: EU migration keeps Welsh workers in jobs, Jones says”
    Its about time that Jones accepted the fact that we in Wales voted out of the EU.
    Its time to get rid of the Welsh Assembly. What a waste of public money that we can ill afford.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wales-politics-41188119/brexit-eu-migration-keeps-welsh-workers-in-jobs-jones-says
    And while we are at it , here is another waste of Welsh money………………………
    “Insulting’ Flint Castle iron ring plans scrapped”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-41187853

       11 likes

    • Number 7 says:

      Shwmae taffman.

      How do all the Poles in Llanelli keep Welsh workers in jobs, or stop wage deflation?

         10 likes

      • taffman says:

        Number 7
        Pass ?
        Ask Carwyn Jones or ‘the Turks’.
        😉

           2 likes

        • Up2snuff says:

          Speaking of passing, taffman & No.7, well done Wales in the international footie this week. It would be great to get all four UK sides through to the Finals.

          Good luck for the next match.

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      • G says:

        No.7,
        I have a suspicion that the DWP turn a blind eye to benefit fraud by our, ‘European colleagues’. Probably an unwritten instruction handed down from No. 10

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        • Dave666 says:

          I can assure you when I worked for DHSS / DSS / DWP from 1983 to 2001 that was certainly not the case.

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  48. taffman says:

    As I have posted on this site before, Al Beeb and MSM will attempt to undermine Rees -Mogg as they did with Farage and Trump or anyone who offends the ‘Liblabrodite’ media by supporting Brexit……………………….
    “Rees-Mogg ignites fresh row over abortion”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41176953

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    • Up2snuff says:

      taffman, I like that LibLabrodite word. (We need a side bar link to a permanent B-BBC Dictionary started off, IIRC, by ‘Quislingtonian’.) Think I might suggest a slight change: how about LibLabradoodle or LibLabrapoodle?

      What do others think?

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