Midweek Thread 6 January 2021

There is to be a parliamentary ‘debate ‘ about the new variant of Lockdown . Will there be dissenters ? Where will the biased BBC stand ?

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  1. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – exceeding their authority or publicists getting ‘wannabe slebs’ on the BBC?


    I wonder if men, especially ugly ones or less youthful/’less attractive’ women, would get quite the smae coverage on the BBC web-site?

    Meanwhile the Chief Constable of Derbyshire ‘plod’ is going to be attracting Trump-style criticism.



  2. StewGreen says:

    deleted quote
    “doesn’t matter jack
    … the msm has already written and cemented
    the narrative to the normies”

    That was in reply to @JackPosobiec posting a video where the Trump crowd clearly booed rogues trying to smash windows.

    I guess the guy was intimidated into deleting his tweet by a pile on from libmob


    • vlad says:

      Many alternative social media sites are claiming the rowdier elements at the demo were agents provocateurs from the Dems / Antifa / BLM – with photographic proof. They also point out that, for all the media hysteria, a grand total of one or two windows were broken in DC. And they contrast that with the months of real violence and destruction from the left that the same media played down or condoned; and the occupation of civic buildings encouraged by Democrat politicians.

      One theory even claims the left tried to instigate violence in DC to have a pretext to impeach Trump immediately.


      • StewGreen says:

        @Vlad see Salty feeds us a narrative just like the news does
        “Ah it was those anti rogues they planned to have the Capitol in flames, but based Trump supporters stopped that”
        … He has no evidence on that.
        Then he says 3 people died from falling from a parapet, there is no evidence for that.

        His video was released at midnight Friday morning
        but he still should have shown respect for the dead police officer
        Brian D. Sicknick
        Who made it back to his desk and collapsed
        and was taken to hospital where he died “due to injuries sustained”.
        (That covers wide range of scenarios from accident to direct protester cause)
        All victims matter, and that includes the injured police and injured protesters
        Although he might be an incidental victim when you have a large police force health incidents happen everyday .

        The Trump supporters were not out to cause violence to anyone
        Had you had a million antifa , there would have been hundreds of times more trouble.
        Nevertheless proper marshalling would have prevented most injuries.

        “Two sources told the New York Times that the officer had been struck with a fire extinguisher.” hmm maybe yes , maybe no


        • StewGreen says:

          Three people who died of medical emergencies.
          – Kevin Greeson, 55, of Athens, Ala
          had a history of high blood pressure, suffered a fatal heart attack during the protest.

          – Benjamin Phillips, 50, of Ringtown, Pa.
          – Rosanne Boyland, 34, of Kennesaw, Ga.
          Crushed ..media airing her brother blaming Trump.
          Fell down during the initial push toward The Capitol.
          As she tried to get up, another rioter fell on top of her with subsequent rioters walking over them.


  3. G.W.F. says:

    I wonder why Boris Johnson, Netayanu, Melanie Phillips, Julia HB, Douglas Murray, and other conservatives were not shocked when police took the knee for BLM protestors at the Capital Building last year.



  4. Sluff says:

    Here’s my nomination for today’s ‘You couldn’t make it up’ award.

    Headline on BBC London news at lunch time. Yep, I said headline.

    ‘It’s been a tough time for RuPaul and his (her?) drag queen show participants’.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The DT Scot correspondent has gleefully reported how crankie is being pressured to provide the exact numbers vaccinated in Scotland . I think a prize is also being offered for the first time she says “british ‘ Oxford or Astra Zeneca vaccine “ because upto now she only says “Astra Zeneca “

      Indicating her hatred of all things English – or in fact British …..


  5. Guest Who says:

    One for Marianna to ignore?


    FLASHBACK: Kamala Harris Celebrated BLM Antifa Riots


  6. BRISSLES says:

    Squeaky Sadiq currently pontificating about staying at home because he’s lost control of the capital. And yes, he has family members working in the NHS. Well, he should start with getting his own gang together and getting them to stop mixing households then !


    • Deborah says:

      6pm BBC1 news and Hugh Pym tells us that the Mayor has declared London ‘a major incident ‘ re covid and according to Pym, ‘will be asking the government for more money’. It seems the only thing the mayor knows to do is ‘ask the government for more money’. Sorry, I lie, he also knows how to spend money on fripperies like fireworks and enormous salaries for his PR people. Both Mr Kahn and Mr Pym don’t seem to realise other people have to work for the money that is being demanded.


  7. BRISSLES says:

    AND ANOTHER THING ! Due to undue care by British Gas, my carpet needs professional cleaning. The insurance company has instructed a company from ethnic and ultra high risk UXBRIDGE to do the job – and I live in the countryside of Cent. Bedfordshire. The ethnic owner called to say he could do the job tomorrow or next week. So clearly these companies haven’t a problem with ‘rules’ at this time.

    I’m high risk, so they’ll probably only have masks to enter my house. Therefore its not happening, until I have the vaccine.


  8. StewGreen says:

    Video with warning gate as it includes the death of Babbitt

    It’s one of those weird things
    Protesters are already inside the building but their way is blocked by barricaded doors at the top of a staircase
    The front of a wide door is packed with various kinds of people
    – Severely tooled up reporter guys with cameras, helmets flak jackets
    – Heavily armed police to the right with suited officials
    – Mostly ordinary Trump supporters with backpacks kinda observing
    – Then just a handful of nutters at the front who have decided they are going to use violence to smash their way in
    They are using implements to to try to smash the glass.
    Absolutely nutty cos for one thing it could shatter onto the crowd
    Finally on the right hand side of the door a pane is smashed,
    .. Babbitt jumps up to go through, but as soon as her head breaches into the building he was shot dead.
    I needed to slow the video to 0.5 speed


  9. BRISSLES says:

    Barbara Windsor’s funeral – how much air time will it get.


    • JohnC says:

      I’ll bet you 10p that the BBC give it less than George Floyd the criminal who was driving a car high on – and in possession of – drugs, spending counterfeit money and died while resisting arrest got.


  10. digg says:

    If you want to know what’s really going on in the USA, an odd email I don’t know why I got first puzzled me then led me to a very enlightening situation.

    An Austrian based Marxist outfit called the LIbertarian Mises Cuacus

    If you read their aims and objects and examine their mode of operation and tactics and mission they want to take apart the US Democratic System from within at local level and replace it with Full-on Marxist Communism.

    They obviously now feel safe to come out of the woodwork.

    I have a feeling that Biden will be swept aside by these types and the USA will go down the plug-hole.


    This is also worth a read…



  11. Fedup2 says:

    The Emir of Londonistan has declared a “major incident “ – well that’s nice isn’t it ? And going to make such a difference .

    Anecdotally – I’ve been out for 2 or 3 lawful reasons in NE London in the last couple of days and I think there is less of a lockdown this time than the first time – even with winter conditions

    I’m assuming that the excel emergency hospital will start earning its keep on the coming Monday – if not before – and relieve some of the pressure on hospitals in this area which – if the numbers are right- isn’t encouraging ….

    …. seems like the majority ethnic boroughs are worst…


    • richard D says:

      ……as a free service to eminent readers of this blog, I have had this declaration of a ‘major incident’ translated from Khanstani, and it means….. “I want more money from UK taxpayers”.


  12. JohnC says:

    I see we have a ‘Major Incident’ in London over COVID cases.
    Hope it doesn’t break out into England.


  13. Darcy3 says:

    The London variant probably does not speak English


    • JohnC says:

      It’s very clearly racist. I demand we give the victims some extra benefits, money or special privilege in compensation.


    • BRISSLES says:

      “The London variant probably does not speak English”

      LOL !!! best chuckle of the day Darcy !!

      (and why I refused the Uxbridge ethnic an appt !.. see above )


      • Darcy3 says:

        I am not surprised, but they cannot find a carpet cleaner in Central Beds ?

        Uxbridge is miles away, love the countryside in Central Beds often go for walks around Old Warden, Clophill, Woburn, Potton and Ampthill etc


        • BRISSLES says:

          I wondered (and hoped) the same thing, but being ‘out in the sticks’ they are probably hideously white.


  14. Darcy3 says:

    Sound familiar ?

    Gordon Brown’s resignation today brings to an end a tumultuous three-year reign at Number Ten and marks the end of frontline politics for one of the key architects of the New Labour project.

    Mr Brown, who has effectively been a ‘squatter’ at Number Ten since the election delivered Labour’s worst result in decades and ended in a hung parliament, at last gave in to the inevitable.

    Today, standing outside Number Ten, he said: ‘The reason that we have a hung parliament is that no single party and no single leader was able to win the full support of the country.

    ‘As leader of my party I must accept that as a judgment on me. I therefore intend to ask the Labour Party to set in train the processes needed for its own leadership election.’


  15. BRISSLES says:

    Oh for God’s sake. Adam Boulton has been flown – no doubt in Business class – to the U.S for what reason no one knows, – (and what can he say in America that he cant say from behind his Isleworth desk ? ), is asking questions of high placed U.S. luminaries about Trump, and still has the same communication problems, so he may just as well have stayed at home, and saved Sky money.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Bris – busily spreading the virus maybe – ‘is your travel necessary ?’ Doesn’t really apply to bubble journos ….

      And as a frequent international flyer – I find it much of a joke for the idiots to finally bring in testing linked to flights – only 8 months late …..


    • The WestWyvern says:

      No no no, let’s hope the fatso tests positive and can’t return to the UK.

      I’d have thought given his size, shape he’d be keeping a low profile.


  16. Darcy3 says:

    Be in no doubt, what we witnessed yesterday . . . was nothing less than an attempted coup.’ No, not this week’s violent invasion of the Capitol Building in Washington.

    RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Those shocking scenes on Capitol Hill? A very British coup…

    That sentence was the introduction to this column on May 12, 2010, as Gordon Brown clung to office in a last-ditch attempt to stop David Cameron becoming Prime Minister.

    So before we get too self-righteous over the outrageous attempts by Donald Trump and his supporters to overturn democracy in America, let’s not kid ourselves that it could never happen here.

    In May 2010, five days after Britain resoundingly rejected Labour at the ballot box, I wrote: ‘Gordon Brown is trying to steal the outcome of last week’s General Election, which he lost by a margin of two million votes and 60 seats.’

    Brown simply refused to accept the result. In a desperate attempt to stop the Tories forming a government he offered the Lib Dems a deal which would involve him remaining Prime Minister until the Labour conference that autumn. After which, of course, there was nothing to stop him standing again.

    Labour’s very own Proud Boys, Peter Mandelson and Alastair Campbell, were given free rein on the airwaves to claim the Tories had actually lost the election and what the people had really voted for was a ‘progressive alliance’ between parties of the Left. The BBC was only too happy to perpetuate this scandalous perversion of the truth.

    Yes, David Cameron’s party had fallen a whisker short of an overall majority. But the Tories had won 306 seats to Labour’s 258 — and even with Lib Dem support Brown still wouldn’t have been able to command a majority.

    In the event, Brown had to be dragged out of Downing Street, clinging on by what was left of his fingernails, when Nick Clegg’s Lib Dems declined to play ball and opted to go into coalition with the Tories.

    For the previous couple of years, I’d been warning that regardless of the eventual result of the election, Brown would refuse to resign.

    (And don’t forget, in 2017, Jeremy Corbyn claimed victory despite trailing the Tories by 56 seats.)

    So Trump’s recent behaviour, however predictable and anti-democratic, is not exactly without precedent on this side of the pond. There are other similarities, too.

    Even if Brown’s attempt to subvert democracy failed, it was merely the warm-up act for what was to come after the 2016 EU referendum.

    For three-and-a-half unrelenting years, the losing Remain side refused to accept the result and moved heaven and earth to overturn it, even alleging Russian interference. They went to court repeatedly to try to Stop Brexit.

    Pro-EU demonstrators set up permanent camp outside Parliament. If they didn’t actually invade the building itself, it was only because they didn’t have to.

    The Palace of Westminster had already been occupied by MPs and unelected peers determined to prevent the UK leaving the EU, aided and abetted by a partisan Speaker who held the British people in utter contempt. And if that wasn’t another attempted coup, I don’t know what is.

    The Washington Establishment behaved just as badly in refusing to accept the legitimacy of Trump’s presidency. It, too, has tried every means available to remove him, up to and including impeachment.


  17. BRISSLES says:

    I know many are incandescent, horrified and disgusted with rage, at old Trumpy, but when I hear about another of his antics, I just burst out laughing. He’s like one of those bottom-of-the-birdcage rocking toys that wont lie down, he’s got everyone up in arms and clearly in his element in doing it. I cant wait to see what he’ll do next.


    • Darcy3 says:

      He’s good for a laugh, probably thinks impeachment is some kind of posh dessert from Georgia.


      • Wink1 says:

        Interesting Darcy3 you mock Donald Trump and his ‘outrageous attempts to overturn democracy ‘ . Have you bothered to investigate the claims made and read the real affidavits of the people who witnessed the fraud ? Surely election fraud by Joe Biden should invoke the real outrage from yourself.


        • Darcy3 says:

          ‘outrageous attempts to overturn democracy ‘

          it is an article by Richard Littlejohn as I tagged at the start of it


          • Fedup2 says:

            To ALL



            • StewGreen says:

              (i) blah blah(/i)

              gives you italics
              if you use : Greater than >, less than instead of brackets


            • BRISSLES says:

              Agree. If nothing else it will put an end to aspersions being cast. But it also helps to properly read the comment.


            • JimS says:

              The ‘blockquote’ tag makes the distinction between the poster’s comments and something quoted from elsewhere even more obvious.

              Like this:

              Smart quoters use <blockquote> and </blockquote> tags to top and tail their stolen snippets

              It helps if a link is given too, like this:-
              <a href=”the link URL goes here”> and some helpful text here</a>.

              A personal plea: When posting a link please give us an idea about what you are linking to, don’t leave it as a surprise!


  18. BRISSLES says:

    Mixed messaging for xmas is now being blamed for the amount of hospital admissions and numbers contaminated with the virus. Well, isn’t it obvious how thick the public are if that is the case ?

    We all knew if people mixed together at xmas the numbers would sky rocket 2 weeks later, and so it has shown.

    Its not rocket science, if you dont want the virus, don’t go anywhere near anyone else ! Clearly those in hospital haven’t done that, and they’re now laid up regretting they should’ve done.


    • Jeff says:

      Sorry BRISSLES, that’s not quite true…in my opinion…

      Countries that have never implemented lockdowns are doing so much better than we are.
      Some of the very worst figures have been recorded in places like Peru, where you’d be escorted home at the point of a gun if you were out on the street. They were imprisoned in their own homes for months on end.

      This is a virus. It’s nasty. Lockdowns haven’t worked and they’re not going to.

      The strange thing is that it’s apparently rife in care homes again, even though they’ve been kept in isolation.

      It’s going to take its course. We were told by people like Ivor Cummins, months ago, what to expect. It’s a seasonal respiratory virus.


      • The WestWyvern says:

        Jeff. Concur. Masks, lockdowns do not work. That’s quite clear to anyone who looks beyond the Antibeeb and HMG propaganda since the middle of last year.

        Regards Peru, I’ve been lucky enough to visit. It’s third world.

        Dead dogs and burning rubbish in the street. Nothing safe to drink or eat.

        A very dirty, disease ridden country where I suspect washing your hands actually increases contanimation and exposure to all sorts of germs and virus.


        • BRISSLES says:

          Each to their own, but I don’t intend to play Russian roulette with my life – there’s little of it left, and how exactly do you contract a respiratory virus ? – I live alone and have little contact with others, so fortunately I’ve only experienced real flu once, in my 30’s when I was working and lived with a husband. Of course I suppose me and the dog could swap virus’, but so far ……………….


          • Jeff says:

            Yes, I’m certainly not advocating any reckless behaviour. I’m not keen on crowds and fanatical about hand washing, so I should be finding lockdowns easier than some. However, I do think we’re becoming unhealthily obsessed with our health, if that makes any sense.

            I think the masks make people feel safe, rather than achieve anything. But they’re also a constant reminder that we’re living through a plague…which we’re not… And I find them quite alienating. The sooner people feel they can throw them away the better.


            • The WestWyvern says:

              You need a full respirator such as I used to wear in large decommissioned fuel tanks or N95 grade filtration.

              Cloth masks allow smoke, perfume, vape particles to enter. The virus is aerosol and much smaller.

              Worried you may contaminate some one else? Don’t get too close, don’t cough, spit or sneeze without using a handkerchief or tissue and wash you hands. Basis old school hygiene.


      • JimS says:

        Could it be that by ‘flattening the curve’, i.e. not spreading the virus, we have allowed it space to mutate?

        Imagine that there are wolves in the forest. If the villagers all grab a stick and rush into the forest there will be a battle to the death, the weak villagers will be eaten, as will some of the strong and bold. The wolves will be wiped out.

        But if the villagers all hide behind a stockade with just a few venturing forth some will kill a wolf and some will be killed. Meantime the wolves keep breeding and have learned about sticks and guns and develop new hunting techniques.

        Well it might make a good story for Sir Lenny to lead in!


  19. LastChanceSaloon says:

    The airman from Sierra Leone who was shot down over Nazi Germany.
    You have read it before.
    The BBC scours and ransacks the pages of history to find herioc models.
    The BBC then sends as many “reporters” as it dare employ at sinecure levels, throughout the globe, to discover aliens suitable for transmogrifying into black Nelsons, Nightingales etc.

    The BBC cannot find one West Blackfrican who sold Black slaves.
    All white.
    The BBC can find thousands of Black serial criminals in the UK and those to blame are all white.

    The white South African farmers who are being dispossessed, if they are lucky; tortured, raped and murdered otherwise. They are to blame, they should have left the peaceful heaven that is South Africa.

    So that Zanu can emulate the Mugabe “miracle”. Starvation and hyperinflation? That was all the fault of the white Rhodesians.

    “younger generation of black Jews, most were born in Israel or have spent most of their lives there.
    In the past decade only 22% who left high school went on to higher education, half the… [Economist paywall]

    This is not fair, the black Jews must have all the prizes.
    Send in the BBC (The Black Broadcasting Corporation).


  20. StewGreen says:

    BBC local news : furious teachers say their are too many children in schools
    sometimes 50%

    In village the nursery is open normally
    it’s the rules apparently.
    Not that the kids or parents are at risk from Covid mostly.


    • The WestWyvern says:

      Said it before, I’ll say it again.

      I guess the teachers are not visiting supermarkets or relying on anyone to deliver food who has to engage with the great unwashed…


      • Northern Dreamer says:

        bBBC look north pushing the same narrative….nhs staff stressed out…..teachers stressed out…….looks like the teachers only want public sector workers kids to attend school cos they can’t manage half full classrooms. They say Boris at fault for not narrowing the eligible list down enough. We’re all in it together? Public sector good : Private sector evil


  21. StewGreen says:

    Local Covid up a touch
    to 0.23%
    vs 0.47% national average for last 7 days
    No surprise I guess yesterday included New Years Day
    when I guess less people were tested.


  22. Nibor says:

    Finishing off Chapter 8 of the book The War Against The BBC .

    Under a title News-watch’s Founders , Funders and fellow travellers,
    We get ‘ Kathy Gygnell also co founded and co-edits the Conservative Woman website, which regularly attacks the BBC alongside other familiar targets — the Guardian, the EU , climate change activists , political correctness and so on .’

    Further on we get ‘ These include Arron Banks , the Brexit bad boy – whose Leave EU website encouraged visitors to send it donations-‘
    There’s several sentences in the chapter (and have been in previous chapters and probably in future chapters ) mentioning people or organisations as though they are wrong for existing , and thus we get denunciation by association, as though Migration Watch is sinister because there is a tenuous link to ardent EUrosceptic MPs and vice versa .

    We can see how the authors believe any organisation or person that is not a BBC supporter is tarnished- in the author’s eyes- for not supporting the BBC .
    We can see the political sympathies of the authors, and as they are one and the same as the BBCs we can see why they hate criticism of it .

    Under the same heading where they attack this site — note I use the word attack rather than criticise, a trait the book uses — the authors mention the Daily Mail . You can guess their attitude to the Daily Mail = BBC favourite Marcus Brigstoke’s attitude to the Daily Mail. This is the paragraph;

    To judge by the comments on these sites and channels, and those responding to articles attacking [that word again] Britain is full of people who really hate the BBC and are furious about what they claim are its abuses . But these comments are hard to evaluate directly. How representative are they really ? What are they’re origins and real motives ? Are they bots , multiple postings from geeks , or all genuinely from ordinary people simply having their say ? Their style , favourite phrases and talking points certainly often seem oddly similar. But no one seems to know .

    Hard to evaluate? Naturally, unlike a normal commercial concern everyone has to pay whether they like the BBC or not . How representative? Have a referendum on the beloved BBC . What are their origins and real motives ? Well they seem out in the open and accessible to anyone . Are they bots? No . Multiple postings – possibly some are it’s not unusual . Or all genuinely from ordinary people having their say – probably the most truthful thing printed in the book .
    Their style , favourite phrases and talking points seem oddly familiar — take the word oddly out of that sentence and the sentence itself doesn’t seem odd .

    But no one seem to know .
    Shouldn’t journalists writing a book find out ? Or would they rather not and imply something sinister is going on ?

    Next chapter , 9 is titled Bolshevism ‘ , Brexit and Bias .


    • Fedup2 says:

      Nibor – by the sound of it -that book is just an extended press release from the BBC defending itself – so I don’t see a purpose . As for ‘bots ‘- what is a ‘bot’?

      I guess the next chapter will be decisive – if it says brexit was dealt with neutrally you might as well burn the book to keep warm ….


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, a bot is interwebby slang for a ‘robot post’ on a web-site or web forum. There are computer programmes that can be directed to specifically trawl around the internet and either post ‘spam’ or overload a site with posts to clog it up. Then there are the security agencies with their ‘watching bots’, probably reading this reply intended to help you out!


        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2 – ok thank you – I guess bots must be pretty clever not to be recognised then .


          • Up2snuff says:

            Actually they are recognised. One w-s of my acquaintance list the registered members signed in on-line and also provides the numbers of bots. The bots usually outnumber the members.


      • Nibor says:

        Fed ,
        When you say i don’t see a purpose , I hope you mean about the book .
        The books hard going through because I’m doing a line by line critique and it’s nearly every sentence.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Yes that’s right – about the purpose of the book. If I thought there was no purpose in you reading it and putting reports of the content on here I would just ignore your post – wouldn’t I ?

          I m guessing the conclusion of the book is that we are lucky to have the best broadcaster in the world and should be paying double the licence fee… but is that a spoiler alert ?..


          • Nibor says:

            Thanks Fed .

            I don’t know the conclusion of the book yet as I’m tying up reading it as I critique it , but I doubt either of us would take a bet on the conclusion.


    • JimS says:

      If 20,000 fans of Liverpool FC were to post comments about it wouldn’t they tend to use the same phrases too? It’s the same with any subject, the ‘jargon’ if you like.

      One didn’t have to listen to many episodes of Radio 4’s Feedback to note that 90% of the BBC producers on the programme used variants of ‘we think we got it about right’. As to BBC News, where would they be without ‘some say’?

      Damn, I’ve been had, the BBC is all Russian bots!


  23. Northern Voter says:

    Two things I noted today,
    1, Whilst listening to Nicky Campbell on 5 nearly alive, (all right I know I shouldn’t, but it’s the only station I can get in Northern France), he had on somebody who sounded like a scouser but said he was from Bolton, railing about kids being back at school, he was sounding off about essential workers blah,blah. On completion NC said George wasn’t the real name of the caller! FFS why would anyone who is on the left use a fake name?

    2.An advert for BBC iplayer airing at the moment is for all episodes of The Fresh Princeof Bel Air, and Man like Morbeen Should call it BBC ibameplayer


  24. taffman says:

    Despite all the promises and threats the illegals are still invading.
    This Tory Government is nothing but an utter shambles of false promises . How long have we got to endure them ?
    Al Beeb is being allowed to continue, its almost as if its with the Tory support ?
    When and if, and that’s a big ‘IF’ we have another election, remember, this time vote for The Reform Party . Are we fast becoming a police state?……………..


    • Up2snuff says:

      taffman, we probably are becoming a police state. Not just the really bad policing in Derbyshire, example of which I posted earlier, but I gather Cressida Dick and Sadiq Khan have had a little gettogether and decided that in the Metropolitan Police area, being outside without a mask is an offence against Lockdown rules and worthy of a fine.

      My source for this was the BBC! The BBC have now changed the article somewhat. see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55557034
      also see

      Sadly, Nigel Farage is going to be tarred forever by his association with Donald Trump. It will probably cost the Reform Party a lot of votes.


      • taffman says:

        “Sadly, Nigel Farage is going to be tarred forever by his association with Donald Trump.”
        Didn’t Bo Jo do the same ?
        Some voters may look at this association as a positive?
        Farage did a good job against the ‘Meeja’ in the lead up to the Brexit Vote and a jolly good job when in the EU Parliament . Have a look a his performances in the archived videos on YouTube .


  25. Tabs says:

    BBC fake news in full flow on the News channel. John Sopel saying, “Trump was reading a speech obviously written by someone else”.

    No evidence provided but stated as fact.


    • StewGreen says:

      Em modern leaders tend to have teams of speechwriters
      trump seems to have strong input into his speeches
      ..and obviously often goes off the cuff.


  26. taffman says:

    “Salmond accuses Sturgeon of misleading parliament”
    An interesting article from Al Beeb . Are they turning over a new leaf ?


  27. theisland says: