289 Responses to Start the week thread 22 March 2021

  1. taffman says:

    “Bristol protest: Police attacked as ‘Kill the Bill’ demo turns violent”
    This great nation is in need of a strong Pro-British leader. Not a Liberal one. The Marxists are sensing the end of lockdown is coming and have started ‘doing their worse’ before it comes to an end.
    Have you noticed that over the last year they have infiltrated nearly every aspect of our daily life such as wokeness, and virtue signalling things like BLM, Extinction Rebellion and attacks on our heritage and culture. They have been attempting to undermine the main moral fabric of our society in every way, re writing our history and even pulling statues down .
    But have heart, as I think there will be a backlash on the way when the country gets back to normal, It has already began with the Telly Tax Strike.
    Are you still paying yours ?


    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to weekend thread
      We only got as far as page 2.

      .. The troll turned up to try and spoil things.
      The normal thing of MISREPRESENTING what people have said, so he/she can attack them etc.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Stew – I was a bit tempted to remove all the comments but decided to leave them up as a reminder of what we are up against ….
        ……..never talks directly about his BBC…


        • StewGreen says:

          @Fed We always tell the students “don’t be afraid to make mistakes. Making mistakes is good that means you learn”
          The same goes for blog like this, people are are on a learning journey. They’re free to post ideas. The first explanation isn’t always the true one and If I put forward something, I am happy if someone else steps forward with new information to correct me.

          Now I’d brought up the topic of BBC disinformation
          The troll steps forward with his “gotcha” to berate me saying I’d misrepresented a public figure

          The irony is that 3 hours later a few posts on the same page he misrepresented a public figure also.
          … Except mine was a mistake.

          and his was sneering and seemed deliberate. As if he puts people in an outgroup & so thinks it’s OK to be deceptive about them.

          Also him saying that the topic of BBC disinformation, is answered by pointing at me
          ‘well what about you’ , is whataboutery.
          It’s false equivalence, posters here are allowed to make mistakes, the BBC publishing machine is something else.

          His gotcha was that I hadn’t corrected the record
          for something 9 weeks ago, back in January
          Well how would I know about that ? I didn’t know what he was on about and he didn’t really explain
          I was able to work out that there had been a plausible photoshop about … and I’d mistakenly fallen it.

          In January he had posted a sneer reply 40 hours after my post, when almost everyone had moved two days into the next thread. so I’d never seen it.
          I’m not the malicious one, I’m happy to be corrected .. I’d shared something that seemed plausible.
          The real baddie is the one that did the photoshopping,


          • Guest Who says:

            That sad weasel simply amplifies BBC hypocritical SOP.

            They constantly berate people and demand apologies or resignations but when the fire is incoming… mistakes made, lessons learned, words were had. Or simply go dark.

            Too much, too often to take anything they attempt as other than two faced opportunism.

            I notice Wendy’s fact checkers are always asking for things to check, but ignore anything that does not suit.

            I note Rory is charing an online ‘conference’ which seldom goes past double figures.


          • StewGreen says:

            typo ..”a few posts *down* on the same page”


  2. Deborah says:

    Channel 4, not exactly known for its right wing views. Instead of Countryfile we watched a Sean Bean narrated programme about Cumbria and Yorkshire. There were lots of farming stories, a health visitor working in a church helped by her assistant who was over 90. There was no mention of climate change or why there were no BAME visitors to the area. In other words it was a joy because it told its story with no agenda. Much better than Countryfile.


    • JohnC says:

      They all start like this until they get popular. Then the Left see a vehicle for their agenda and hijack it.
      The latest trend is to keep the really woke stuff out until a few episodes in when hopefully you are hooked. They are doing it in books as well.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Deborah – I noticed you share my concern for “Halifax” – hope you are ok Halifax ….


  3. taffman says:

    Has anyone noticed that Al Beeb has a sub-heading “BREXIT”? Its where all its subjects are negative, negative and negative. Some are even 10 days old . Nothing positive about Brexit enabling us to get the Covid Vaccine out before the rest of Europe.
    Why does our Tory government and its MPs stand, just watch and do nothing about it ?


    • andyjsnape says:

      Hi Taff

      Was thinking the same thing re Brexit – its a constant reminder of how NEGATIVE things are! Unlike the positives we read offend elsewhere


  4. Deborah says:

    Has Naga issued a proper apology yet? If a sulky teenager issued that tweet as an apology, I would have insisted they did it again, and apologise for the weasel words in the first apology. I am sorry you took offence is no apology. If she had tweeted her apologies for upsetting people, that becomes an apology. And I would have made her phone Mr Jendrick and apologise personally, better still apologise directly to him on air.


  5. Deborah says:

    Halifax, hope you are O.K.


  6. JohnC says:

    Another one of my old favourites bites the dust. ‘Vera’ took me a while to get used to her character, but it was believable, gritty life in the North.
    It’s gradually gone woke and the one I watched last night is the final straw. It’s gone the way of everything else:
    1) Vera has a new research assistant. A young black woman. And she’s brilliant : never makes a mistake.
    2) Vera has a new pathologist. A young black man. Replaces the middle-aged pale-and-stale. He’s brilliant. 100% correct on every diagnosis and always finds the one in a million chance. Plus he’s young and hadsome to the point he wears his pathologist smock with sleeves rolled right to the top (even though those morgues will be chilled) so we can see his muscles. Only problem : can’t act and is entirely unconvincing.
    3) Vera has another new research assistant. A dwarf scooting around the office in an electric wheelchair like Davros. She’s brilliant. She barked out facts like Wikipedia from the very first moment.
    4) Vera still has the white male DS who accompanies her. He’s not brilliant and she often shouts at him.
    5) Vera still has the older white pale-and-stale copper who is the racist bigot. He’s not brilliant either and she shouts at him a lot too.
    6) Every now and then some random and mysterious people appear in the office who never speak. The first I noticed was a muslim woman with her head covered. Last night it was a very black woman. We also had a fat white man IIRC.
    So there is the cast for the one I just watched. Now let’s see how much ‘woke’ they got into one episode where a body was found in a slurry tank:
    1) Polish immigrants working on farm. Shouted at by uncaring agent. Scared of nasty British police. Talked like middle-class Englanders faking an accent.
    2) Farmers boy : deaf and dumb. Luckily Vera knows sign language. We get specificall informed how people just stare and don’t understand his disability in another awkward scene which doesn’t fit.
    3) Trail leads to Gypsy camp. A more honourable set of people you could never meet. Talked like middle class Englanders putting on an Irish accent. We are informed about how racist the farmer is and how hard their life is when they just want to live in peace. And of course the obligitary awkward piece about they they mistrust police.
    4) Gypsy family son (the one found in the slurry tank) was gay. Had to leave Gypsy camp because of the shame before everyone found out. Though it didn’t stop him having an affair with the farmers wife earlier and giving them the said deaf and dumb son.
    5) Murderer turned out to be the extremely pleasant, God fearing Polish man who went to a church where the priest was very black.
    I think they got the lot into that one and I can’t think of another British drama I liked which is still watchable.


    • StewGreen says:

      16 stolen dogs were rescued from a gypsy camp in Suffolk yesterday.


    • Nodding Dog says:

      Shame John that you can no longer enjoy a programme that you once enjoyed.I’m afraid the clever black female is an old favorite though and goes back years even before wokeness was fashionable.

      I used to enjoy watching Lovejoy.Main character a lovable rouge of an antiques dealer and his two white male assistants one old who knew a trick or two and the younger one a bit dim and between them they seemed to mess things up.After a few series they introduce a young black girl to join the gang.Wow she’s brilliant knows all about antiques and always had the best ideas of how to get their hands on the stuff.

      Another example again from the late nighties was Pie in the Sky.A bumbling detective who also ran a restaurant.After a series or two he teamed up with a young PC…a black woman I bet you can guess who solved all the crimes from then on in.

      Both programmes also had the stereotypical dim white male which I think has been remarked on before on this site.Ones similar to Benny from Crossroads or David in Heartbeat.The only female version I can think of is Alice from the Vicar of Dibley but saying that most of the male cast in it were portrayed as thick or weird!


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      “Vera” merely represents the vibrant multi-cultural society of the north-east of England.

      Who are you going to believe, left wing agitprop TV or your lying eyes?


    • BRISSLES says:

      Always late to the party, have just started to watch Grace & Frankie (with Jane Fonda/Lily Tomlin/Martin Sheen/Sam Waterstone), and includes 2 adopted sons – now adults. One is white and a recovering drink/drugs addict, the other is clean cut, black and an intelligent know all – but his over-acting skills rather kills it.


  7. JohnC says:

    I was a bit shocked by the riots in Bristol and even more so by the fact the people in the pictures are white. It looks particularly viscious.
    My search for who is behind it didn’t take long : the picture of the crowd further down has someone waving the Communist Party flag in the top left.
    Seems like the hard-left showing us their true colours again mixed with useful-idiot students by the looks of it. No mention of that of course. If it were far-right, it would be in the headline. Their slogan “Kill the Bill’ is of course a deliberate double meaning straight out of the BLM handbook.
    Usual dirty double standards by the BBC. Nothing to see here.


  8. tomo says:

    I feel it’s likely we’ll see “mostly peaceful” wheeled out again.

    The SWP are all-a-froth ….

    I wonder if there’s any rent-a-mob going on … – I’m pretty cynical about stuff like this.

    Avon & Somerset situation management reputation isn’t the best (galactic understatement) – they could’ve brought this on themselves… That said a bit of disruption before the vote might ginger up some wavering MPs….


  9. Dave S says:

    I disagree . I am not at all surprised by the riot . We are living under an effective police state and ruled by arbitrary decree. We have lost free movement and free assembly., These are basic to any democracy. Then this useless government had the stupid idea to introduce a bill to clamp down on protest . Genius idea and about as idiotic in the current circumstances as it gets .
    The young people of the country have been locked up for a year. They are just about at boiling point and all it is going to take is a spark to ignite real chaos.
    The Clapham police action has been a disaster. It has probably finished for the young any notion that the police are citizens in uniform rather than a para military force of thugs. After that to continue with the bill in the Commons was politically inept.
    Sadly the police have been too keen on enforcing the lockdown rules and have lost the public in many cities and towns. This is new in this country .
    I warned a year ago that lockdowns would have unintended consequences. That it would take a year or two for these to surface. Now they are starting to do so.
    Do not assume the BLM and the left are the only actors in this. They are not. There is real anger out there and it has been subdued up to now. Johnson and his government have shown once again how inept they are. The London marches against lockdown have been underplayed by a compliant media. How long they will do this is o[pen to doubt.
    I have never been optimistic of a good outcome. Lockdowns have never been tried before on this scale. We could face disaster.
    The young have borne the brunt. Jobs gone, Universities have behaved appallingly . Taking money and delivering nothing in return . Careers blighted and so on., It is not BLM and antifa you need to worry about but the up to now majority of young people who have had a really dreadful deal from this awful government.
    With immediate effect Johnson needs to restore the freedoms he took away .Or at least t apologise and tell us how much he regrets his actions and that every day he is working to restore what is ours by right of birth and not his to take.


    • JohnC says:

      I might agree with you except the wide shot of the crowd suggests otherwise. Placards with logans such as ‘Why are you protecting statues of racists instead of women’ and ‘Priti Shit’ – and of course the afore mentioned communist party flag – lead me to believe otherwise. I suspect this is trying to keep the momentum of the BLM riots going.
      This lockdown will end soon and people know it. I haven’t seen this anger you talk about. My opinion is that those who are angry are angry that we have a Tory government and this is a convenient excuse to express it.
      Note I am not supporting the new bill. I’m just saying it’s not the main reason the violent ones in that riot are there.


      • brexiteerkent says:

        The curious thing is that Labour have always wanted harder not softer lockdowns. How does this fit with the lefty protesters wanting less restrictions yesterday ? Are labour showing yet again how out of touch with their potential voters they are ? ( a good thing of course !)


    • JohnC says:

      I might agree with you except the wide shot of the crowd suggests otherwise. Placards with logans such as ‘Why are you protecting statues of racists instead of women’ and ‘Priti Shit’ – and of course the afore mentioned communist party flag – lead me to believe otherwise. I suspect this is trying to keep the momentum of the BLM riots going.
      This lockdown will end soon and people know it. I haven’t seen this anger you talk about. My opinion is that those who are angry are angry that we have a Tory government and this is a convenient excuse to express it.
      Note I am not supporting the new bill. I’m just saying it’s not the main reason the violent ones in that riot are there.


    • Jeff says:

      I attended the anti-lockdown protest in London on Saturday and have to say, as far as I’m concerned, both demonstrators and police behaviour was exemplary.

      Yes, the demo was noisy, but I saw none of the ghastly spectacle that we witnessed last night. Different set of folk altogether…

      Although we were corralled and walked for bloody miles, there were none of the baton charges that I’ve witnessed on previous meetings. Perhaps it’s not easy when you have a moving target.

      It’s really difficult to express just how utterly abysmal Johnson has been as PM. He’s not a leader, he’s a follower. “We’re following the science…” has become his mantra. What he means is, we’re passing the buck and being told what to do by SAGE. There are so many other scientists with vastly differing opinions on how to treat covid, but Johnson doesn’t have to gonads to talk to them.

      Can you imagine the response to this virus if Mrs Thatcher had been PM? Mrs T would never in a million years have done to our liberty, economy and country what this pathetic, bovine coward has inflicted. If Bo-Jo had been in charge of the Falklands campaign the fleet would never have left Portsmouth Harbour and the islands would now be called The Malvinas.

      Johnson and Hancock will be a miniscule footnote in political history, but this appalling and useless lockdown must never be forgotten.

      Or forgiven…


      • StewGreen says:

        @Jeff lefty Twitter (Tom Felton etc.) said that demo was full of Nazi salutes
        .. well they got a photo of one of one guy.

        That is usually someone getting annoyed at cops and accusing them of being Nazis and shouting “Sieg Heil officer” at them.


      • BRISSLES says:

        I’m impressed that you walked ‘bloody miles’ !!!


    • tarien says:

      Yes Dave S, agree with much of what you say-dressed like storm troopers looking closer to something out of Star Wars, the Police are putting up an atttagonistic front which is bound to bring about strong reactions from the public-which inevitably will encourage the other politcal supporters-maybe not those the authorities like but that’s too bad-Lockdowns were not necessary, selected areas such attending to the most vunerable, certain restrictions on certain movements such as passaenger planes, but not an absolute blanket restriction causing disasterous consequenes. However this government and its so called Scientist group sage are taking orders from those that control the WHO the WEF et al. Control, subjugation, enslavement, all the public under Police supervision, that is what appears to be coming. They know, but will not be listening.


    • StewGreen says:

      “The Clapham police action has been a disaster”
      ..surely nothing much happened at The Clapham vigil
      It was a red/green skin event, so not the thug police they use at purple skin events.
      Police arrested a couple if women, and released them minutes later. They hardly went in kicking with batons.


  10. ScottishCalvin says:

    Do remember all that Sturgeon has the seats but more than half of Scotland doesn’t support her. Hell if I was utterly lacking in any morals or ethics, I’d almost be tempted to join the labour party as a careerist: if you have two brain cells then you have a lucrative job for life once the SNP civil war really breaks out in a few months when they lose their majority.


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    • Fedup2 says:

      Do you think one of the biggest problems is that when ever the SNP is mentioned there is a collective ‘eye roll’ with ‘ oh god not them again?’

      Certainly when ever blackford starts his rants in the UK parliament you can hear the stampede for the door ..

      … a couple of PMQs ago there were ‘ technical difficulties’ which meant he couldn’t do his ‘act’. The chamber cheered .

      I think the SNP are in the same class as the US Democrats – just not up for proper challenge or examination.

      If the scots voted to leave the UK the border wall would need to be very high …


      • ScottishCalvin says:

        They keep playing the “we didn’t vote for Brexit so we need another vote, this time on independence” card. Yet at no point to they factor in the idea that if they go ta yes vote, the wealth producing areas would instantly demand yet another referendum, this time to break off from the new state and re-join the UK. Orkney & Shetland have made it clear that if not London then they’d rather have Oslo/Copenhagen running the place. The blue voting north east (with the whisky ad fishing) were pro brexit and are anti-independence, unless you’re reverting to the 11th century and re-establishing the Kingdom of Moray


  11. taffman says:

    “Defence review: Army ‘to be reduced by 10,000 troops’”

    IMHO this is a bad move , a very bad move . What with the global threat coming from China and a possible Trojan Horse of over a million ‘unknowns’ in the country and more landing on our beaches daily . These cuts are very worrying. I would never have predicted this from a Tory government . But then , do we have a Tory government?


    • JohnC says:

      These weak-willed career politicians and police chiefs are taking the easiest way out for everything now. There has to be some serious cost cutting and some serious tax rises very soon and this will create the fewest riots by the BLM/Marxist agitators.
      We badly need the leader we hoped May was, and thought Boris was. Trouble is, our society can no longer produce them. Just look how everyone right of centre has been assasinated by the press and social media. Maybe Cummings was the last we will see for another decade until the worm turns.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Taffman – we certainly dont need a Royal Logistics Corp – i mean – what do they do ? Apart from delivering on PPE and vaccines where the bloated NHS failed ..


      • taffman says:

        “we certainly don’t need a Royal Logistics Corp”
        Don’t give the government ideas or they may replace them with Crapita or Serco ?


    • JimS says:

      When I was in secondary school there was a General Election, we held our own mock one in school, we were able to get the local parliamentary candidates to come in and give an election address to the sixth form.

      Something that struck me at the time was the positivity of the Conservative candidate. There was possibly something of a Jordan Peterson in him, ‘you young people can take on responsibility and achieve great things’. Unfortunately he didn’t win and I never heard his name in politics again.

      He was certainly a contrast to all the other negative candidates. Sadly I don’t think I have ever heard any ‘conservative’ since speak positively with passion since. They all sound just as depressingly negative as all the other parties, but not quite so much – ‘”Don’t worry, we are left-wing too (BBC), please like us”.

      What we need is someone like the guys behind Biden, whoever they are, writing ‘executive orders’ like crazy, one thousand Blair laws, gone! NI Protocol, gone! Harriet Chairperson, gone!

      Clear the decks so that the people can do things! Simple things like volunteering are priced out of the market – Are your staff trained? Are they ‘diverse’? Are they delivering ‘equality’? Are they insured? Etc.

      The alternative is constant negative bleating to the BBC – “The government should do more!”

      The ‘lefty’ American JF Kennedy sounds extreme far-right now:

      “..ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”


      • Fedup2 says:

        The red Tories know that if they play to the BBC tune they’ll get a ( slightly ) easier time – so if they announce any ‘end of funding ‘ you know they’ll back down in a while .

        They are also wedded to the money tree and benefits and ‘vulnerable minorities ‘

        They also know there is not much by way of real choice in the market .

        Fortunately ( but not for some ) when interest rates head up someone is going to have to start picking up the tab and the welfare dependency will come under pressure .

        I have been fortunate enough to work hard to enable myself to never be dependant on State hand outs – one of the many good things my parents taught me .


    • theisland says:

      VfB have been arguing for ?years, certainly months, that we need both technology AND more troops (not less).

      Beware the pro-EU civil servants.


  12. andyjsnape says:

    More favourable “reporting” for Mr Trump

    The bBC just warning everyone, don’t forget to throw in the DEADLY riots


    • G says:

      Now they want to report on President Trump’s positive moves?

      Why now? – Perhaps our, “Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster” actually see’s the writing on the wall. Certainly the Fake President and his entourage cannot go on much longer.


  13. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “Donald Trump plans social media comeback, says adviser”

    “Mr Trump was suspended from Twitter and Facebook after January’s deadly riots at the US Capitol in Washington DC.”

    “The attack on 6 January by Trump supporters saw five people including a police officer killed, and shook the foundations of American democracy.”


    The BBC and the the rest of the hard Left are terrified of the former President of a country over 3,000 miles away having his own social media platform. In this BBC feature, they intentionally fail to mention that a female veteran was shot dead by a police officer. The cause of death of the police officer is disputed as a he died the next day and possibly of natural causes.

    Trump media could gather the support of 70 million or more in the US and far more worldwide. This fact is what terrifies the biased hard left BBC.


    • tomo says:

      Pretty sure that IF DJT does do the social media thing, we’ll see similar antics from the woke left like the antics being deployed against Tucker Carlson and Fox News – as in attack the advertisers, agitate for a ban on specious grounds and a tsunami of howling.

      The left need figures to actively hate who don’t kow-tow to them ….


  14. Deborah says:

    Look North on Sunday evening highlighted young women chalking on the pavement in Lincoln because 97% of women are sexually harassed. I think I live on a different planet. Maybe I am too ugly or old but one of the not very pretty women interviewed had purple and green hair. She said she gets sexually harassed every time she walks down the street. I don’t know what streets she is walking but may I suggest she learns to handle it or choose different routes. I used to live near Clapham and was kerb crawled every time I went out. Dealing with it is part of growing up.

    But of course, it isn’t really about sexual harassment. This is all about bringing down society, and the BBC loves to give these trouble makers the oxygen of publicity.

    Which doesn’t mean there isn’t sexual harassment on the streets that is uncomfortable. Once whilst visiting the Old City of Jerusalem I found myself in the Arab Quarter and all the men from young boys to old men were calling out what they wanted to do. It wasn’t nice but shouting out was all that happened and I don’t think I have been scarred for life.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      It’s more than 20 years ago, but I recall an interview on the radio in which a wimmin’ claimed that “more than 95% of women have been raped”. The reporter was slightly incredulous and asked “As high as 95%?”. “Yes”, continued the wimmin’, “95% of women have been raped… either physically or verbally”. She then gave an example of ‘verbal rape’, which consisted of a man saying something cheeky/unwanted at the photocopier in an office.

      I rest my case, m’lud.


  15. AsISeeIt says:

    Despite an archive of fun

    Someone is in a really good mood this morning: ‘“An archive of fun” lost images of gay and black London‘ (Guardian)

    The Guardian, a newspaper which the BBC will still insist to be mainstream, but which can never quite decide whether it wants to imitate The Voice, Pink News or Spare Rib.

    There was a time when if tv viewers wanted an action-packed cop drama they had the Sweeney. If viewers wanted something more staid and homely there was Dixon of Dock Green or even Z-Cars or latterly The Bill.

    The Worm has Turned (to quote an old Two Ronnies sketch) and militant feminism is here on our screens in a stab vest and with a warrant card: ‘Line of Duty. The AC-12 Crew are back‘ (Guardian)

    Not for these girls playing cops a distant control headquarters, the blue-stocking sapphic-looks, distant remote control of drones on the ground with which to zap innocent Brazilians and other government targets, all combined with the unflinching careless common purpose tick-boxing career progression of our real top lady cop.

    Sales puff‘ (Times) ‘The Line of Duty actress Vicky McClure models the jacket worn in the series by her co-star Martin Compston, which he is auctioning for a hospice in Greenock, Covid restrictions stopped him from showing it himself‘ – and if that isn’t the most toe-curling virtue-signalling right-on pandering PR stunt on record, then I don’t know what is.

    The Express too is pushing this show: ‘Line of Duty is back… with a bang‘ and the Mirror: ‘Good cop? …verdict on Line of Duty

    And the ‘i‘: ‘Where’s H? Our verdict on new Line of Duty

    Talk about blanket coverage, with typical tabloid brevity the Daily Star simply refers to: ‘Vicky Duty Call

    Is watching this BBC show as compulsory as the tv licence?

    In real life police news: ‘Kill the bill riot‘ (Metro) – this is a play on words as the bill here is both the old bill and the Boris Bill to help future governments to ban and to criminalise future protests of which they won’t approve. Corporations inconvenienced by protests will also be able to call on the state police to break up demos on their behalf.

    The freebie giveaway Metro, enjoying commercial and state advertising as its bread and butter, suddenly ditches its former rountine lefty liberal postures and joins the hang ’em and flog ’em brigade: ‘Police seriously injured as mob goes on rampage

    The Telegraph too attempts to garner the angry retired colonel in Sidcup vote: ‘Police left with broken bones at Bristol protests

    What, you’re telling me the protests weren’t mostly peaceful?

    Bristol, was that not where the police chief came out in support of the statue-toppling demo?

    The Express excels itself in righteous Boris-supporting manufactured effrontery: ‘“Mob of animals” attacks police in protest rampage

    The protesters against the Police & Crime Bill may be masked and threatening-looking – but aren’t we all these days? They may have some bewildering skills on the skateboard but I’ve a certain sympathy with them and less so with the police. Be warned as these crusty antifa-like dudes warn us that our cops are morphing with G4S. And not in a fun exciting RoboCop sense.

    The FT, like the Guardian, finds something in the news this Monday morning to keep its pecker up: ‘HK tax haven status given a boost‘ – well, democracy is being crushed drip by drop under the Chinese water torture, but at least there’s still a buck to be made.

    DNA test will show patients’ hidden risk of heart disease‘ (Times) the life insurance companies will love that. Still, good to know the NHS has been working hard on something other than covid these last twelve months.

    And it wouldn’t be a proper press review if we couldn’t find one or two annoying little “despites” in the news: ‘Tories to cut army by 10,000 troops despite election pledge‘ (Times)


    • Fedup2 says:

      I think plod is losing public support because it treats different groups noticably differently – giving ethnics the freedom to do what they want because plod is frightened of a career damaging ‘ racist ‘ accusation .
      So they make up for it by going fo soft targets – whitees – out exercising and the like . Must be so rewarding giving out tickets ….


  16. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – the Beeboids are getting very worried

    BBC presenters are getting edgy. They have helped the MSM create a hostile environment for Government over Covid and now mutations might mash their summer holiday plans. The Beeboids want to to visit their holiday apartments and homes on ‘the ol’ Continong’ (as the late Jimmy Young would have called it) and they may be forced to holiday in the ‘awful UK’ instead.

    Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

    Well, dear BBC you created this mess by constant hostility to what Government were doing, by ramping up the fear, by highlighting the (misleading) death statistics and now you have to live with consequences.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2 – you know – youre right . I think thats why they were so miserable telling us the average number of jabs delivered was 600 000 a day …
      Unless the BBC droids can engineer an overseas ‘trip’ their 3rd homes will remain unused … sad


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, I think most of the Beeboids consider their home in the EU to be their ‘first home’, the UK one is ‘their residence (but not necessarily for tax purposes) where they ‘have to live to do their job’ and all the others are the ‘Buy-to-Let portfolio’.


        • Seppers says:

          Not far-fetched maybe.
          I had a theory at one point that the EU wanted to use England (or to some extent the whole UK) as the ‘workplace’ of the eu, with their workers coming at will and returning to build or buy homes in their homelands facilitated by the uneven playing feild re cost of living. And elite British people with property in the EU and jobs at home going along with this presumption. Perhaps even all subconsciously.
          But that they didn’t bank on people who actually regarded England as their home casting their referendum vote with wages and cost of housing in mind (and an eye to preserving some if its green space).
          This is why I have always regarded the claims of simple racism for Brexit as ridiculous. It was the uneven playing field and an out of touch elite.


  17. Guest Who says:

    Times channeling its inner BBC


    Quite a lot of claims and allegations there from an industry that gets excited about substantiation when it suits.

    Also the person in the headline is not the one in the main picture, perhaps deliberately confusing for effect.

    Works in tv, though. Looks mid twenties. She could get Marianna to investigate. Not the BBC, though. Skeletons, professional courtesies…


    • StewGreen says:

      Farage went to Dulwich
      if there was any dirt about people around him, the media would have dug it up already.


  18. Laughing at Lefties says:

    Not sure if this has already been posted so apologies if this is a duplicate.

    One of the world’s most respected and decorated vaccine developers has sounded the alarm on the COVID vaccines, I believe this is what Dr Coleman was referring to in the video I posted last week.


    The BBC and other corporate media is attempting to destroy anyone who opposes an experimental vaccine for an illness with over 99% recovery as a kook. Good luck labelling this guy with that. It’s not anti-vax, it’s anti-genocide.

    Please share far and wide. Everyone’s affected, not just those stupid and gullible enough to have already had the shot.


  19. Fedup2 says:

    How will the BBC and all those pro EU traitors react when the Helga running brussels bans exports of vaccines contracted by the UK?

    That one is too serious for popcorn

    And we know it will be done out of spite, envy and a desperate attempt to demonstrate that she and her pals are ‘ doing something ‘ ….


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I think we have a head start on this one:
      “The BBC has learned that it was the actions of the British government itself which precipitated what some are falsely claiming to be a ban of vaccine exports from the EU. A source, who does not wish to be named but whose claims have been backed up by experts…”


  20. StewGreen says:

    9am R4 Marr, actually To Sutcliffe presents.
    Two people plugging books
    – novelist Edward St Aubyn
    – Patricia Fara’s book on Isaac Newton’s later life
    – Celebrity twin doctor Chris van Tulleken plugging his radio series “how animal viruses spread to humans, and how far human behaviours are causing pandemics.”


  21. pugnazious says:

    There may be a shortage of Astra-Zeneca vaccine but there’s no shortage of hypocrisy at the BBC….a couple of daily doses keeps reality at bay.

    Zealously hunting down and denouncing the anti-vaxxer chatting to their 3 mates on WhatsApp or some other obscure forum in the darkest reaches of the web the BBC is much more relaxed about the EU Leaders who spread distrust and doubt about vaccines across the continent…thus having ‘blood on their hands’…surely?

    Similarly the BBC takes two starkly different approaches to protests…and the police reaction. After Clapham Common there was outraged indignation that the police dared enforce lockdown rules on the women and shocked horror that some were actually arrested and ‘man-handled’. No such shock, horror and general outrage for subsequent protests…anti-lockdown or anti-anti-protest bill. In fact the opposite….Today was asking why the police hadn’t gone in harder and earlier on the protestors in Bristol….but had the decency to ask if the police reaction was tempered by what happened in Clapham….or rather as a reaction to the outpouring of media and political faux horror…thus the media et al’s specious, self-serving and duplicitous humbug actually makes the police’s job harder as all the fake outrage, designed to control the police in order to favour their own, has unthought of knock-on effects.

    When the BBC, and the Media, takes sides, especially for reasons of grandstanding virtue signalling, there are serious and unintended consequences.

    The BBC is the most dangerous organisation in Britain.

    Oh…and the ‘as a mixed-race’ Labour Mayor of Bristol? Apparently he is shocked by the anti-establishment people invading Bristol….their selfish, self-indulgent violence is just thuggery and not political…and as a mixed-race person he knows they do him no favours in a system that is stacked against people like him….that’ll be the Mayor of Bristol…..quite an elevated position one might think…just how did a person of colour manage to get to such giddy heights in such a racist country? And isn’t he part of that ‘system’? Of course when BLM were trashing his city he loved it.


    • Doublethinker says:

      I think that in Bristol after standing by and even siding with the BLM statue toppers the proverb , ‘ You reap what you sow’ is appropriate. Unfortunately the same is true across the whole of the UK as we have tolerated insiders and invaders trashing our culture, capturing our institutions , rewriting our history and dictating right and wrong to us, for decades.
      I note the army is to be reduced in size but we are spending millions on nuclear weapons , state of the art aircraft etc , to enable us to fight Russia or China . What we will really need is tens of thousands of extra troops to keep order at home but no politician dare prepare for the coming civil race war.


      • Banania says:

        “What we will really need is tens of thousands of extra troops to keep order at home…”
        I believe the police are taking on a lot of new recruits, to be specially trained to deal with possible “civil unrest”. They will not be like Dixon of Dock Green.


  22. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – another ‘Oh dear, how sad, never mind’ moment

    That the BBC loves the EU is in no doubt now since the EU Referendum. But the EU is threatening to ‘break the law’ to impose its will on a commercial company’s contractual obligations without legislation or good reason eg. during a time of war, in order to block vaccine exports. The BBC frequently incorrectly reports the UK as ‘breaking International law’ as far as the EU is concerned with its proposed Single Markets legislation (the legislation was withdrawn and never ‘tested’ in Court) and again with unilaterally extending some provisions of the Withdrawal Agreement as far as Northern Ireland is concerned.

    You can almost hear the TOADY presenters wince as they have to report and conduct interviews on the ‘illegal’ actions of the EU. Schadenfreude dial needle hitting the orange zone.


  23. Dover Sentry says:

    Daily Telegraph:

    “Global capital is leaving Europe and coming to Britain.
    The eye-wateringly large monetary outflows from the eurozone may accelerate into outright flight”


    Not mentioned by the BBC of course. They wouldn’t want to upset their mates in the EU, would they?

    Is it too early for a bottle or two of chilled Schadenfreude? ????????


  24. G.W.F. says:

    have to admire the tactics of the left at Bristol.
    First white women protestor urinates on the pavement in front of the cops. Then call in Black Lives Matter so the cops have to kneel in urine.


    • Vonbedda says:

      Its daft, id kneel to no one! i don’t care what movement your part of, you could be the right hand of god & ill still stand.

      I stand equal with everyone in my eyes.

      These people that run with the slogan Black Lives Matter, are Political Motivators for the Left. its a joke they don’t get called out for what they are more often if at all.


  25. pugnazious says:

    The BBC’s Panorama once again spreading lies and disinformation about how the government handled the pandemic. The BBC’s position has always been that the government locked down too late and didn’t act fast enough…here Panorama makes an interesting claim…

    Covid: The countries that nailed it, and what we can learn from them
    ‘Test, track and trace
    As cases soared ahead of the first lockdown in late March, and with resources stretched, the UK government, which had been conducting contract tracing until this point, stopped testing in the community. It had the capacity to test only in hospitals. The government’s formal test-and-trace programme was launched in May.

    Most countries in east Asia started contact tracing in January.’

    The BBC gives us the idea that the only effective track and trace programme in the UK was launched in May…in fact the only really effective programme had started in January as in the Asian countries…as the NHS tells us…

    ‘Timeline of COVID-19 testing in England

    The first known cases of COVID-19 in England were confirmed on 31 January, with contact tracing and outbreak management led by local and regional Public Health England health protection teams.’

    The system was limited in March to high risk areas when numbers became too great….the Koreans tell us that track and trace can only be successful when numbers of people to be tracked are small….hundreds of thousands are beyond any system to cope with.

    And remember, Germany locked down at the same time as us….and at first had few deaths much to the BBC’s delight as it compared the so efficient Germans with Brexiting Britain…of course it was pure luck not good management that kept deaths low…as you might suspect in Asian countries….Germany’s numbers are now rapidly ramping up even after months of increasing knowledge about the virus and the time to improve the care infrastructure…thus raising questions as to whether anyone can actually control the virus…or is it just that luck?

    Read on with Panorama’s analsysis and you won’t find any criticism of lockdown, the principle of it…nor any analysis of the damage wrought by them and if there might have been a better alternative to lockdowns…..which is odd as two studies have just come out recently that question lockdown’s effectiveness [and of course WHO said we shouldn’t lockdown…it is a last, last, last resort]…..don’t expect the BBC to be giving them much airtime or credence….

    From the Health Advisory & Recovery Team….

    ‘The data is in: lockdowns serve no useful purpose and cause catastrophic societal and economic harms. They must never be repeated in this country.’

    And a Cambridge epidemiologist

    ‘Would an earlier lockdown really have saved tens of thousands of lives?
    It’s likely many of these countries with early lockdowns and small first waves will end up having higher excess mortality than the UK.

    Many politicians and commentators have claimed that if only the Government had ‘followed the science’ last year and locked down a week earlier and closed our borders – as other countries did – we could have saved tens of thousands of lives.

    And of course that is what we would have all wanted – far too many people have suffered and lost their lives – something I witnessed first-hand on the frontline.

    But as an epidemiologist, I have also tried to understand what interventions were most effective and whether an earlier lockdown really would have reduced our eventual death toll over both waves. To do this, I have relied not on the models on which these claims are made, but looked at what has actually happened in Europe.

    Cross-country comparisons have their own limitations, but those in Europe are the closest to the UK in terms of their populations, age structures, climate/seasons and healthcare systems, and these are they key factors in determining the number of deaths from Covid-19.

    It is true that two countries – Norway and Finland – who locked down a week before the UK (and closed their borders) have been remarkably successful in having both small first and second waves and no excess mortality to date.

    But they are the exceptions – what happened in many other countries in Europe who also locked down (and closed their borders) at the same time is that they did have very small first waves in Spring 2020 but this was followed by much larger second waves in autumn/winter 2021 (and now into spring 2021, too).

    And this has happened despite second and third lockdowns in many of these countries as people understandably struggled to maintain compliance with restrictions for months on end.

    Such an outcome was both predictable, and predicted. Lockdowns in the absence of vaccines could only postpone – not prevent – infections, hospital admissions and deaths.

    And by effectively delaying part of the first wave from the spring until the second wave in the winter, this meant that many countries had a higher proportion of the population still susceptible to infection, and so led to even higher death tolls as health systems struggled to cope.

    And this would have been even worse in the UK with one of the lowest numbers of hospital and ICU beds per head in Europe – which would have led to even higher excess deaths – both from Covid-19 and other causes as capacity was overwhelmed.’

    Indeed the BBC’s own health correspondent admitted that Sage predicted lockdowns would only delay deaths…

    ‘If we just lift the lockdown, then another explosive outbreak is inevitable. ‘

    The lefty Nick Hornby in The Guardian claimed…

    ‘BBC should be ‘untouchable’ after coronavirus…the BBC is “one of our crowning achievements as a nation”…. its handling of the coronavirus pandemic should make it “untouchable” once the crisis has passed.’

    I might suggest that is far from the truth…if anything its reporting of the pandemic has been highly partisan, political and extraordinarily one-sided in its promotion of lockdown and its vilification of anyone who criticises lockdown and its utter refusal to challenge the government’s draconian, if not dictatorial, imposition of oppressive measures across the country….the BBC actually not reporting the statement by its once-time heroine of the Remain side Baroness Hale….

    ‘Parliament surrendered control to Government over ‘draconian’ Covid-19 emergency laws, says Lady Hale

    In an essay seen by The Guardian on Monday, Baroness Hale called for the return of a “properly functioning constitution as soon as we possibly can”.
    The retired judge suggested Parliament had allowed the Government to act without proper scrutiny.
    The Coronavirus Act 2020, passed in March, gave the Government “sweeping” powers alongside other “draconian” regulations, and “it is not surprising the police were as confused as the public as to what was law and what was not”, she wrote.’

    You might think such a powerful statement from such a prominent person once feted by the BBC and made a guest editor of the Today programme after her defeat of Boris’ prorogation would merit some attention…but I didn’t read or hear a single report on her comments. Why would that be?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Hale did unmeasurable damage to the image of the judiciary in the Brexit decision . She should just shut up and get gardening …

      Comparing the UK with other EU countries is tricky because of the SE population density – and the chances of controlling the borders ? Forget it .
      People on this site charted incoming uncontrolled passenger aircraft all through 2020 asking WTF ?

      Then too late HMG goes all draconian .

      Common sense should trump the
      Scientific data when it can be interpreted in different ways .

      Simple precautions such as hygiene and ventilation could jave done a lot . Even face masks …

      I think we will have to pretend the vaccine is very effective across all variants and get on with life someday ….


  26. Fedup2 says:

    BBC newsreaders wearing black again and reporting that the oxford jab was tested in the USA and as a result will be approved .
    They just cannot – cant – handle good news or anything positive about what blighty achieves …


  27. BBCNarrativeB says:

    The BBC seem really interested in trying to push an agenda to force us to wear masks and social distance for the distant future.

    Yesterday we had that Public Health England crackpot saying we need masks and social distancing for many years to come to protect us from COVID. I thought the vaccines protected us from COVID? The BBC gave her airtime, and then shoved her prediction prominently on the BBC front page.

    Now they’ve invited another GP (a female Muslim, of course, as per the BBC Woke Law) who says we need masks forever as part of a ‘new normal’ to prevent other viruses from spreading. No handshakes either in this new normal.

    Why are the BBC giving these absolute halfwits airtime?


  28. pugnazious says:

    The BBC acting as mouthpiece and defence counsel for Antifa terrorists…

    Is Antifa the threat it’s made out to be?

    Listen here[scroll down] if no access to ‘Sounds’…


    There are three, four if you include the BBC presenter, out of 4 speakers who are pro-Antifa…only one critic.

    The BBC’s problem with Antifa is not that it uses violence in its, erm, justified defence of America against rising fascism, but that the violence may give a negative perception of the Left and may damage support for the Left’s causes…so no actual problem with the violence itself, that’s OK, that’s acceptable as long as it’s properly controlled and targeted at the extremists of the Far-Right….and gets the proper PR…something the BBC would no doubt be glad to provide.

    The BBC tells us that the violence in any case is much exaggerated and anyway it’s not really Antifa people involved….soooo….who are all those lefty rioters, looters and city burners then? The BBC tries to insists that Antifa doesn’t exist..it’s merely an idea…a number of people with that same idea..erm..acting together but not in an organised way…much as they told us that Al Qaeda didn’t exist in its ‘Power of Nightmares’ programme….‘the illusory threat of a hidden network of terror has come to dominate politics throughout the world. ‘

    Maybe it’s the threat of the ‘Far-Right’ that is illusory and much exaggerated for political effect.

    No….The real threat, says the BBC, is not the tiny amount of Antifa violence [which is purely a counter reaction to Fascist violence] but the extreme violence which is, apparently, far more commonly coming from the Fascist Far-Right….and of course Antifa violence had nothing to do with the mostly peaceful BLM riots….erm…protests…never mind you had BLM founders on the BBC stating clearly that violence and rioting was an ‘unfortunate’ necessity.

    After months of left-wing rioting and terrorism across the country how can the BBC claim the Far-Right is the more violent of the two? You had one, by comparison, mostly peaceful and bovine invasion of the Capitol and???? Not much else really….and as for the ‘5 people killed’ during the invasion of the Capitol….one, unarmed, woman was shot by police, others died of health issues and the police officer was not ‘beaten to death’ by protestors as the BBC et al claimed but had his own health issue.

    We hear that Fascism must be stopped because it led to millions of deaths….so by that logic Communism must be stopped, in fact made more of a priority as it is far more endemic across societies than Fascism….the Leader of the Labour Party was a hard-core commie who supported Islamic terrorism….and yet the BBC supported him.

    Would the BBC be so relaxed about an anti-communist group that used violence verging on terrorism to stop the commies..or the islamists? We know the answer to that…Just look at what happened to Tommy Robinson…and all he did was march and make a few speeches….no violence, no riots, no looting, no burning cities or police stations.


  29. Fedup2 says:

    Wow the BBC is spending taxpayers ‘ money on wimmins ‘ footy – ( it cant afford the real thing ) ….


  30. andyjsnape says:

    The bBC has done a survey

    Its about childrens feelings, same no more


  31. Philip_2 says:

    Working for the BBC is a lot like selling your sole to the devil. Lazy, Greedy, perverted and privileged; only need apply. A life of luxury if you never question the Agenda and everything paid for..

    BBC Private Ferry service organised as ‘STAFF TAXIS’:
    ‘Both the Express and The Times reported that the BBC has agreed a contract worth £15 million for the provision of hire cars. This is separate to another tender for staff taxis worth in the region of £74 million and comes at a time when the Beeb is hounding over-75s to pay the license fee’.

    Note: the ‘£74 million’ for ‘other’ staff taxis. Commuting to work costs that nobody else in broadcasting media benefits from (outside top headline TV and radio presenters perks in commercial sector). The BBC Pension scheme: is probably still the most generous in the country)…

    BBC staff claim free Mobiles and laptops because they forget where they are.
    Staff at the BBC have lost almost £550,000 worth of mobile phones and laptops in the past five years – enough to fund more than 3,500 licence fees.

    BBC Private Healthcare benefits private (BUPA) for top bosses.
    BBC spends MILLIONS on free health insurance for top bosses
    No surprise there!

    BBC claim to be uniquely ‘transitioned’ to higher pay (and benefits)

    BBC denies any ‘humiliation’ for woman who don’t exist. (non transits presumed)
    The BBC has been accused of “intimidating” female staff by forcing them to prove they should be paid the same as their male colleagues….

    BBC likes to foster ‘talent’. Only the BBC pay ‘celebs’ worth half a million.
    This is because the BBC’s commercial arm BBC Studios, which makes many popular shows, doesn’t have to disclose its fees so presenter’s of some of the BBC’s biggest programmes such as Tothat this is those whop Gear and Doctor Who are missing from the list.
    Note: These are only the BBC ‘staffers’. All ‘other’ private payments (well above this amount) go via BBC Studios (A private BBC limited company outside FOI enquiry). So (very) private contracts apply.

    BBC is a political ‘monoculture’. And yet they all sign up for it. What a surprise!
    Released from Corporation Purdah Humphrys gives his unvarnished opinion of the BBC’s failings in a book about his life and times at the BBC. With his trademark acuity he gets straight to the crucial point; the BBC is a ‘Kremlin-like’; organisation, he says, ruled by thought police who enforce rigid adherence to a set of liberal principles.

    BBC ‘jobs-for-life’ experiences:
    The BBC’s job-for-life culture keeps ‘work-shy’ plodders in their place
    We’ve had Jeremy Paxman and John Humphrys admitting that the Corporation’s internal political culture “dresses left” and now Jed Mercurio – the creator of Line of Duty and a screenwriter of distinction – has accused some BBC executives of being work-shy and generally useless. What’s more, he says, the BBC is inefficient compared with other broadcasters he’s worked for.

    At least Tim Davie is distributing the pain of the BBC (exclusive talent) across the country. We’ll see how well that works to keep the license fee intact.

    The BBC can’t survive sneering at the people who pay its bills
    The BBC is like a corrupt diplomat, seeking the protection of the national flag – it’s your patriotic duty to support the British Broadcasting Corporation, peasants – while at the same time defacing it. Munchetty and Stayt are just the tip of the idiotic iceberg who take the taxpayer’s coin under the guise of uniting the nation while slagging it off, as do the vast majority of alleged comedians on Radio 4. And they’re every bit as much a parasitical class as aristocrats; they’re the Mewling Class, whimpering all the way to the bank with our money.

    Sneering BBC is tip of the iceberg. That these people exist in the BBC is the most problamatic ‘problem’ – that of one of a total lack of ‘diversity’ of any ‘other’ thought or opinion. This is a common trait in employing staff from only Guardian readers.


  32. Sluff says:

    It’s Quiz Time !!!!!!
    What links The Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine and the NHS?
    Well there may be several answers but here’s one to think about.

    As previously written, my blood boils at the ludicrous virtue-signalling by which yet again the UK has thrown away a world-leading commercial opportunity. In this case by giving away the OAZ vaccine at cost price.
    But consider this. If a product is cheap but good, demand will sky rocket. And the EU and others can place giant orders on AZ with no financial downside and can then whinge, politically or otherwise, when orders are not met. With AZ prevented from controlling demand by the price mechanism, the result is a long waiting list for the product/ service and in the present case much EU self-righteous sanctimony. And with minimal profits there is no money for AZ to re-invest in more Rand D and better production.

    Ring any bells? The NHS has been in exactly the same position for years. Everything is ‘free’ ( ha ha) so demand is insatiable. Hence the long waiting times long before covid rendered them astronomic. In the NHS case resources are provided by the money tree, aka the Taxpayer and there are no incentives for re-investment in improved processes. The result is not exactly ‘world- leading’ though the NHS has proved to be excellent at sending covid patients back to care homes, often having arrived in hospital covid free in the first place.

    In both cases the inevitable result of virtue-signalling is pisspoor performance.
    Where’s the virtue in that?
    Except that it makes the wokes and Guardianistas feel good.
    And the BBC.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – as a shareholder in one of the leading companies makinc oxford AZ it wont be doing much for my dividend…


  33. Fedup2 says:

    Another Quiz for you

    What colour do you think the new Mastermind Quiz Master is going to be ?

    And guess which coloured anti british news reader it is going to be ????

    And i will give you a clue

    His first name is clive ….


  34. StewGreen says:

    Ah sorry I spoiled your quiz
    I was already preparing this post as you pressed post.

    #Mastermind new host confirmed as BBC News presenter Clive Myrie

    John Humphrys has been the face of the long-running quiz show for an esteemed 18-year run, but announced plans to part ways with the production back in February.

    His final appearance on the show will air next month, while Myrie will get to work filming brand new episodes in July for broadcast later in the year.

    He said: “What a privilege it is to take on this new role. Mastermind with Magnus Magnusson formed the backdrop to my youth, and now to be at the helm is a dream come true. I’m excited and can’t wait to get stuck in.”


    • Fedup2 says:

      Confession – i sometimes watch it to test my memory – a ‘celebrity ‘ at the weekend was asked – what island is called ‘ the rock ‘ answer ‘pass ‘ ….he came last – although he got the ‘rapper’ question right …
      i guess its an ethnic culture thing..


    • BRISSLES says:

      I suppose we have to be grateful it isn’t June Sarpong.


    • Tabs says:

      Will it be racist to comment that I won’t be able to see the new host as the Mastermind set is so dark and dreary?


      • Beltane says:

        They originally wanted Lammy with his brightness turned up, but it didn’t seem to make any difference.


        • Beltane says:

          And how long before Myrie complains of the inherent racism surrounding that chair?


      • Sluff says:

        Steady on Tabs.
        You haven’t lived.
        Back in the 1970s great fun was to be had when Donny Osmond was on the TV.
        You turned down the ‘Brightness’ control on the old Black and White TV.
        Then you watched his teeth dance around the screen.


    • DYKEVISIONS says:

      I can’t wait to have this intellectual colossus / ‘personality’ getting ‘stuck in’


    • Rich says:

      “Mastermind with Magnus Magnusson formed the backdrop to my youth”.

      Old Magnus was popular amongst the Bolton Massive was he?

      Not Top of The Pops, The Old Grey Whistle Test, MotD, Citizen Smith, Starsky and Hutch, or Only Fools, even Yes Minister if he wants to appear more intelligent than he probably is? Programmes that most young men would actually have watched in the late 70s and early 80s.

      No. Mastermind. Aye right. That would be really sad if it was true. The teenage Clive must have oozed charisma.


  35. taffman says:

    “Cardiff: ‘Serious disturbance’ leads to 12 arrests”
    Guess who ?


    • StewGreen says:

      \\ Officers are using stop and search powers on Wentloog Avenue,
      which includes Shirenewton travellers’ site, to “avoid further violence”. //

      The local paper had warning back on Thursday


  36. andyjsnape says:

    Covid inequality: ‘I struggled with the bills and my health’, reports the bbc


    Dieting tips brought to you from the beeb


    • Sluff says:

      This little post shows one of the most scandalous, s***-stirring Politics of Envy stories I’ve seen from the BBC in a while.
      Apparently the entire UK post school age population have been adversely affected financially !!!!!! Deliberate fomenting of discord or what?

      Of course many have been affected. Mainly private sector workers who have lost jobs or put on short time working or the higher paid put on furlough.

      But…..no mention of
      8 million public sector heroes on full pay, pensions, and benefits but nothing to spend money on.
      Pensioners ditto with guaranteed inflation protection.
      Self employed. Getting support but will recoup much of the backlog when lockdown ends (try booking a hairdressers, or pub or restaurant – i don’t begrudge them all butbthey are part of the BBC’s ‘disadvantaged’)
      Meanwhile we are collectively so impoverished that..errrr………we’ve paid back hundreds of billions of personal debt, an all time record.

      The BBC. Guaranteed to tell you only that part of any story that fits their narrative.


  37. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    17 deaths today (within 28 days of some kind of connection to covid)

    Boris is warning us of the 3rd wave coming in from Europe.
    So, if the vaccines work what’s the problem, 99% of the vulnerable have been jabbed.
    Or does the vaccine not work and the 3rd wave is coming to get us.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      ‘Boris Johnson has warned the effects of a third wave of coronavirus will “wash up on our shores” from Europe.’

      Maybe literally. Via rubber dinghies heading across the Channel from France.


  38. StewGreen says:

    4pm R4 is back with another Black issue prog again
    Presenter playwright Kwame Kwei-Armah a frequent visitor to BBC broadcasts
    talks with theatreland people
    – Daniel Bailey reveals the impact of the summer of racial reckoning on his work
    – Canadian playwright Jordan Tannahill in Germany with his play on the climate crisis, ‘Is my microphone on?
    – Kirsty Sedgman, Lecturer in theatre at the University of Bristo


  39. G.W.F. says:

    Government advisor says that we should wear masks for years.
    Career opportunities for Mask Enforcers


  40. digg says:

    BBC Repair Shop just switched on. “A nostalgic look back as as people bring objects of family history and the memories they hold back to life”….

    Jay Blades introducing a turbaned expert gent tasked with repairing a Zitar with superglue….

    Another reasonably interesting program sacrificing it reason for existence to virtue signalling, I can almost hear the sound of switches being thrown right down my terraced and yes largely British white populated street…


    • BRISSLES says:

      I used to like that programme. But its been done to death now, and Jay Blades was just the bloke who painted chair legs a different colour until he got this gig. Now its him that garners all the publicity for the show rather than the really skilled workforce.


  41. Fedup2 says:

    It seems nut nuts ‘ husband is to give some of our vaccine to the EU for them not to use ….
    I think i can imagine nut nut whispering the scheme in bojo s ear ….

    Destroys our contractual arrangement and makes us look weak – giving into the helga running the ReichEU…

    I hope this one is wrong


    • Sluff says:

      Easy peasy.
      AFAIK, The UK can make the OAZ vaccine entirely within the Uk, though other supplies speed the process up.
      Meanwhile…..is the same true for the EU?
      Does the AZ plant in NL need UK made precursors?

      You know what they say. When you have them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow.


  42. Sluff says:

    Brilliant news about the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine from the latest USA phase 3 clinical trial.

    But can anyone – anyone explain to me why we should sell it to them at cost price?

    The wokes have truly taken over the asylum.


  43. Guest Who says:

    Frankly hilarious.

    He’s about the only one listening.


  44. Fedup2 says:

    BBC reports that the new plan for the Army will be for the best trained best equiped soldier in the world . She will also be cheaper than having an army .

    There will be 20 field marshalls to tell the soldier what to do .


    • taffman says:

      As long as there is no wolf whistles .


      • StewGreen says:

        @Taffman the Chinese army is being trained to thrash the British army by shouting the wrong woke pronouns at them.


        • Banania says:

          “…by shouting the wrong woke pronouns at them.” Shades of Monty Python.


    • Northern Voter says:

      Fed, whilst serving in the RN in the 60’s and 70’s, we had a class of frigate called the Leander class, there were 29 of this class and many many more vessels that made up the fleet. We don’t have that many ships on active duty now. Coming back to the UK through Portsmouth on the ferry, it is possible to see the class of vessel known as the Darings. All of them in dry Dock getting repaired. We have more Admirals than ships.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I do believe I made an air fix model of a ‘Leander class’ RN ship – ….. happier days … I think a class of nuclear submarine isn’t well either ….
        …. I seem to recall that Mr Cummings tried to get the MOD to stop wasting tax money on kit which didn’t work … but failed … corruption I guess …


        • Northern Voter says:

          My second draft was to a Loch class frigate, built at John Brown’s yard, Glasgow in 1942, I was privileged to serve on her in 1966-67. 25 years old when we brought it home from the Far East Station to be scrapped. Most of todays builds wouldn’t last half of that.


        • StewGreen says:

          @Fed You misread my reply to you in the weekend thread
          It was not a reply to your words
          but rather I was pointing out the post “below” yours
          where someone who screamed about fake news had just written fakenews in that post


      • JimS says:

        In dry dock or alongside?

        Porstmouth doesn’t have the capacity to dry dock that number of ships at one time.

        The MOD say that HMS Diamond is carrying out sea trials, if that is the case ‘alongside’ would be an accurate statement.


      • Banania says:

        Do the Admirals still live in Bath?


  45. StewGreen says:

    Tonight’s TV
    8pm BBC1 Panorama hour special about Covid
    The Jay Blases Show
    The Stacey Doolan & celebrity chums

    9pm Black Cab rapist doco


    • StewGreen says:

      oops Stacey Dooley has been postponed
      instead 9pm BBC1 Football child abuse doco *
      and 10:45pm Drag Queens for 70 mins

      * Three-part documentary exploring historic child abuse that took place in youth football in England from the 1970s to the 1990s and the code of silence surrounding it.
      Ep1 focuses on former footballer Andy Woodward’s 2016 revelation of abuse
      Continues tomorrow.

      Oh Channel4 change
      8pm “the collapse of high-street
      Debenhams, Cath Kidston, Jack Wills and Poundworld,
      all were owned by private equity firms, whose partners earned millions while tens of thousands of shopworkers lost their jobs.

      OK I know it sounds weird
      but an easy business can employ a bog standard manager
      but a failing business often needs to pay a big salary to a rescue specialist to stand any chance
      Yeh sure he might still not succeed
      but investors are wise to take the chance with him.


      • StewGreen says:

        OK my error I flipped a page to Wednesday
        These 3 are actually Wednesday shows
        8 The Jay Blades Show
        9 The Stacey Doolan & celebrity chums
        Channel5 9pm Black Cab rapist doc


  46. Up2snuff says:

    I forgot to mention that I scored my century of discarded facemasks the other day. The second fifty came in dribs and drabs, the wicket was taking lots of spin from various scientists.

    I’m currently unbeaten on 104. 🙂 Perhaps I should have been in India? 😉


  47. Up2snuff says:

    More on statistics. I’m expecting to see Covid infections ‘being climbed’ over the next couple of weeks. So far today, I have not been disappointed.


  48. BRISSLES says:

    I see that the tv ‘chef’ Nadya Hussein has branched out into a new career. Designing shoes for Next.

    You couldn’t make it up, as my friend Littlejohn says.


  49. taffman says:

    It look like Crankie is off the hook ?


  50. digg says:

    Channel 4 News tonight determined to help get Sturgeon off the hook and to defund the police. I can’t imagine who they think swallows this garbage….Skunks….