511 Responses to Midweek Thread 8 September 2021

  1. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Just seen Vicki Michelle on GB News (Dan Wootton, big question guest)

    Isn’t she just lovely.
    As well as agreeing with everything she said (she could be one of us ((Brissles or Deborah?))) she still looks fabulous. Maybe even better now than in ‘allo ‘allo.

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  2. StewGreen says:

    ITV 10:45pm ..oh good Naz Shah is on
    against a Yorkshire Tory MP

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  3. taffman says:

    “Bomb squad called as man held by terror officers in Basingstoke”

    And so it begins. Let’s all hope the security services have their ‘fingers on the pulse’.

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  4. pugnazious says:

    LOL…just been reading this in Spiked….
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/09/09/how-9-11-exposed-the-depths-of-western-self-loathing/

    ‘How 9/11 exposed the depths of Western self-loathing.

    As the 20th anniversary of 9/11 approaches, we are being confronted once again, on news broadcasts, in documentaries and online, with that footage. With the images of those planes striking the Twin Towers, of survivors covered in blood and dust, of heroic first responders saving the lives they could amid unimaginable carnage. It still shakes us to this day. But amid all the acts of commemoration and remembrance one thing risks getting lost. That in the wake of that act of barbarism, an attack not just on New York and DC but on the West and what it stands for, there were many members of the British intelligentsia who, after the dust settled, were struck with more or less the same thought: maybe America brought this on itself.

    Just two days after an attack that claimed almost 3,000 innocent lives, it fell to the Guardian’s Seumas Milne to say the quiet part out loud. ‘They can’t see why they are hated’, ran the headline. He laid blame for the carnage on the ills of American foreign policy, on its ‘unabashed national egotism and arrogance’. ‘

    And….nothing’s changed 20 years on as the Guardian publishes this today….
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/09/blacklisting-terrorist-groups-911-wars

    ‘‘Blacklisting’ terrorist groups: the post-9/11 strategy that only serves to prolong wars
    The blunt-edged, security-oriented approach allows little space to tackle the root causes of violence and find resolution’

    Note this special take on things….something the BBC could go along with…

    ‘ In the absence of a UN definition of what actually constitutes “terrorism”, the resolution led to states identifying suspects in light of their own national interests. …..armed groups as diverse as the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam in Sri Lanka, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc), the Communist Party of Nepal, the Kurdistan Workers’ Party in Turkey, the Communist Party of the Philippines and Hamas in Palestine were listed as terrorists. ‘

    Sooo…none of those groups were terrorists? Farc? Weren’t they narco-terrorists? I suppose the head-chopping mass murderers of the Mexican cartels are not terrorists either….and the Tamil Tigers? Pretty sure they were. Oh…and of course Hamas! Hamas that daily terrorises Israel?

    Oh boy….

    ‘By rejecting the go-to solution of dehumanising all groups and their supporters as “terrorists”, change – and thus peace – is put within closer reach.’

    This of course from a paper that instantly demonises absolutely everyone on ‘The Right’ [No UN definition of that yet!] when some herbert attacks Muslims…then it’s OK to dehumanise and to label….all those ‘Right-wing’ people, the commentators, writers, journalists and politicians who argue to control immigration or to question Islam…suddenly it is their direct fault…they have ‘blood on their hands’…witness the BBC claiming Farage had ‘blood on his hands’ when a Pole died in Harlow…in a fight that the Pole started after he made racist remarks to a group of English youths.

    And then there’s this…from the Guardian of course….

    ‘The Guardian featured a cartoon by Martin Rowson which mocked up a picture of the van and superimposed on its side: “Read the Sun & the Daily Mail” using the easily recognisable logos of both newspapers.

    It was a brilliantly simple and satirical means of delivering exactly the same message as Oborne: that the right-wing press – and particularly the two daily papers with the highest circulations in Britain – must take responsibility for the barrage of anti-Muslim propaganda which both papers have been peddling through their news and editorial columns for years.’……

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  5. JohnC says:

    Afghanistan: Journalists tell of beatings by Taliban
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58500579

    After what I’ve seen since Brexit, I’m having a lot of trouble having any sympathy about this.

    Perhaps the world would be a better place if these people had a few more ethics about right and wrong and a few less about their own extremist left-wing ideology.

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  6. pugnazious says:

    Huh! Who knew….I’m not alone in my contempt for the smugly self-important gotcha point scoring Nick Robinson…..seems not only having tried to shut down Savid Javid with a curtly ridiculous claim that ‘no-one is interested in how much money the government is spending’ [The BBC of course is intensely interested in that] the day before he tried a similar trick with Nadhim Zahawi as Michael Howard tells us…

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/09/used-defend-bbc-now-switching/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

    ‘The final straw, for me, was Nick Robinson’s interview with Nadhim Zahawi, the vaccine minister, on Tuesday of this week. Tuesday was, of course, the day when the Government announced its proposals for the reform of social care.

    But as Mr Robinson well knew, the details had to be announced to Parliament before they could be broadcast. Indeed, had this convention been broken and caused a reprimand from the Speaker, the BBC’s journalists would have been the first, gleefully, to point to the Government’s discomfort.

    Yet when Mr Zahawi attempted to explain this and said that he had come on to the programme to discuss the £5.4 billion which had just been announced for the NHS, Mr Robinson said that this was a complete waste of time and threatened to end the interview there and then.’

    Michael Howard suggest we should cancel the BBC until it starts to perform as intended….

    ‘So what can a disillusioned and frustrated listener do? It is no use complaining as I have found from experience.

    But perhaps there is something which I, and those who think like me, could do. We could stop listening.

    Perhaps I am naive but I assume that the powers that be in the BBC do pay some attention to programme ratings. There are a number of alternative channels and I have decided to switch. I urge those of you who think like me to do the same.

    I should make clear that my objective is not to boost the ratings of these other channels. I want the BBC to recover its role as an authoritative, respected and objective national voice, making the most of its potential to be a unifying influence in the face of all those forces that are driving us apart.

    And even if I fail to achieve my objective, at least I shall be spared the daily irritation of listening to the insufferably self important presenter Mr Robinson has now become.’

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I stopped listening to the Today programme after being a loyal listener for about 30 years, and it feels great!

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  7. pugnazious says:

    No surpise here….

    ‘Paul Gambaccini warns he is ‘coming for BBC next’ saying corporation was ‘complicit’ in child sex abuse ‘witch hunt’

    Interviewed by Victoria Derbyshire about the future of Dame Cressida Dick as Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Mr Gambaccini said he and other campaigners who had been victims of false accusations and misconduct were determined to expose the BBC’s role.

    He said the Corporation had given “free rein” on the Six O’Clock news to Carl Beech, the fantasist who falsely accused a string of VIPs of paedophilia. ‘

    The BBC always gives free rein to those who voice its own prejudices and world-view…such as the odious lawyer and charlattan Phil Shiner as he tried to drag British troops through the courts with fake claims of abuse….the BBC was there cheering him on at every turn….as they were supporting the EU/IRA in their anti-Brexit sabre-rattling, and the Democrats/Putin as they tried to destroy the integrity, trust and stability of the US political system with a massive ‘Russian’ Hoax undermining Democracy in a sordid attempt to corrupt the system and steal the Presidency.

    Now of course it’s XR and BLM…the BBC being the propaganda mouthpiece for both extremist groups.

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  8. pugnazious says:

    Sounds familiar…sounds very much like an institution we all know and abhor….

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9973427/PIERS-MORGAN-woke-destruction-great-educator-terrify-one-us.html

    ‘‘Brick by brick, he wrote, ‘the university has made this kind of intellectual exploration impossible. It has transformed a bastion of free inquiry into a Social Justice factory whose only inputs were race, gender, and victimhood and whose only outputs were grievance and division. Students at Portland State are not being taught to think. Rather, they are being trained to mimic the moral certainty of ideologues. Faculty and administrators have abdicated the university’s truth-seeking mission and instead drive intolerance of divergent beliefs and opinions. This has created a culture of offense where students are now afraid to speak openly and honestly.’

    The more I read of the letter, the worse it got.

    ‘I noticed signs of the illiberalism that has now fully swallowed the academy quite early during my time at Portland State,’ Boghossian wrote. ‘I witnessed students refusing to engage with different points of view. Questions from faculty at diversity trainings that challenged approved narratives were instantly dismissed. Those who asked for evidence to justify new institutional policies were accused of microaggressions. And professors were accused of bigotry for assigning canonical texts written by philosophers who happened to have been European and male.’

    But all this inevitably took its toll, and he eventually threw in the towel.

    The final three paragraphs of his resignation letter are worth repeating in full:

    ‘This isn’t about me. This is about the kind of institutions we want and the values we choose. Every idea that has advanced human freedom has always, and without fail, been initially condemned. As individuals, we often seem incapable of remembering this lesson, but that is exactly what our institutions are for: to remind us that the freedom to question is our fundamental right. Educational institutions should remind us that that right is also our duty. Portland State University has failed in fulfilling this duty. In doing so it has failed not only its students but the public that supports it. While I am grateful for the opportunity to have taught at Portland State for over a decade, it has become clear to me that this institution is no place for people who intend to think freely and explore ideas.’

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    • G says:

      Pug,

      “A candle in the wind”

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    • MarkyMark says:

      From John Gatto, it’s not just children that don’t want to know about the real working world anymore. Swap child for adults in the following article …

      The children I teach are indifferent to the adult world. This defies the experience of thousands of years. A close study of what big people were up to was always the most exciting occupation of youth, but nobody wants to grow up these days and who can blame them? Toys are us. … Time for a return to democracy, individuality, and family. I’ve said my piece. Thank you. {naturalchild.org – john gatto – jan1990}

      relates to Westerners: Guilty of Reading the News {atestoneinstitute.org 27sep2017}

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  9. JohnC says:

    ‘I’ll be at front of queue to change my slave name’
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58492848

    Not even UK. Complete woke rubbish. Gets 1,150 words.

    Just to put this in perspective, compare it to the singular article the BBC wrote about:
    ‘Sadistic’ abuser Abdul Elahi targeted 2,000 victims online
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-57386159

    That headline is very misleading about the extent of the crimes by Abdul:
    ‘They included multiple counts of blackmail, disclosing private sexual films and photographs to cause distress, making and distributing indecent images of children, encouraging the sexual assault of children, sexually assaulting a boy, causing or inciting children to engage in sexual activity, fraud and possessing more than 65,000 indecent images of children.’
    Note that description is from elsewhere. The BBC cut it down to:
    ‘His offences include possessing more than 65,000 indecent images of children as well as some of sexual assault, blackmail and disclosing private, sexual photographs.’

    And how many words did this outrageous activity by ‘Abdul’ warrant from the BBC ?.
    450. Just over a third as many as black people in Holland getting to change their slave names from 150 years ago for free.

    Is there any wonder we are sick to the back teeth of the BBC and the Left ?. I’m sure their ideology has a good reason why they warp the truth so much. So did Hitler.

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    • G says:

      John,

      “Is there any wonder we are sick to the back teeth of the BBC and the Left”

      Victor Davis Hanson. I have a good deal of respect for this mans views and thoughts.

      Bit long but well worth a watch on his most recent lecture.

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  10. Guest Who says:

    Surprised the BBC has not made him Head of ‘News’.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2021/09/10/chris-packham-serial-liar/

    Springster still on feet?

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    • Guest Who says:

      Nope. But on another bbc narrow track.

      Not even mostly.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Meanwhile…. from not long ago…

        https://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2021/09/september-continuing-open-thread.html#

        Charlie

        https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-58020985.amp

        What’s annoying about this minor story where someone claimed to be cut by a razor blade is that it was a unsubstantiated Twitter thread which the BBC converted it into one of their main stories.

        It turns out that the complainant has form and also said that she had been disembowelled two weeks ago.

        It looks like a case of fake news and no fact checking or research was undertaken by the BBC journalist who wrote it.

        h/t to ‘nice hat’ who researched the facts. (Unlike the BBC). It should never have been published.

        ***
        Four misleading Covid claims fact-checked

        Next on the BBC… five?

        Or… not news?

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      • JohnC says:

        He was falsely accused.
        Unlike the actual BLM protestor who has been falsely not accused.

        The story is that a BLM protestor burnt the Union Jack. Doesn;t matter who did it. The BBC are just trying to obfuscate that fact.

        I find his placard of ‘The UK Invented Racism’ to be offensive and racist. Clearly the BBC do not.

        ‘The 23-year-old Londoner is a recent graduate, working as a tutor and looking to set up a sustainable fashion brand.’

        Another Lefty no use in the real world whatsoever then. I bet he eventually applies for a job at the BBC.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        BBC in discrimination row after opening trainee role only to ethnic minorities
        https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbc-discrimination-row-advertising-job-ethnic-monorities-b941600.html

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  11. Guest Who says:

    BBC do like its anniversaries. The Moaning Emole…. From Frank…

    ***
    Lessons learned (or not) since 9/11

    As Afghanistan is once more ruled by the movement that sheltered al-Qaeda, are we any wiser than we were on the morning of 11 September 2001? The so-called “War on Terror” led to the invasion of Afghanistan, then Iraq, to the rise of Isis and the proliferation of Iranian-backed militias across the Middle East, and the deaths of thousands of servicemen and women and many more civilians.

    Terrorism has not been eliminated – every major European country has suffered attacks in recent years – but there have been successes too. To date, there has never been an attack approaching the scale of 9/11. Al-Qaeda’s bases in Afghanistan were destroyed, its leaders hunted down in Pakistan. The self-declared Isis caliphate that terrorised much of Syria and Iraq has been dismantled.

    ***
    Soon to be ‘debated’ as only BBC can?

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/sep/16/terrorismandthemedia.bbc

    Or now Sleepy is in, selection of panel and questions tuned accordingly?

    Lucky no well armed nut jobs around now, eh, Frank?

    Read full analysis >

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  12. Guest Who says:

    BBC knows how to please an audience.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Ash know?

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  14. Guest Who says:

    New BBC TV Licence letter writes itself.

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    • tomo says:

      From what I read, see + hear – the population’s patience is doing likewise wrt to Biden and his crew….

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  15. Guest Who says:

    Somewhere in an obscure bbc outpost, a chastened intern is reminded to try a bit harder.

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  16. Guest Who says:

    The estate agents are impressively on the ball though.

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  17. Foscari says:

    I wonder if BIG BROTHER at the diversity department at the BBC is a little uneasy at the sight of Emma Raducanu with a cross
    around her neck ,at the USA Open?

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    • Foscari says:

      Of course it will be terrific if she wins at Flushing Meadows.
      THEN Big Brother would be in terrible dilemma , when
      Emma wins Sports Personality of the year. can he, she, or it tell Emma not to wear the cross because it may offend some.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    Huge amounts of people unable to house themselves in certain areas… it’s a mystery.

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    • JimS says:

      Not so surprised now, in our once immigrant free neighbourhood, to see a brown female with head covered. More surprised to hear her speaking German to her companion.

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  19. Guest Who says:

    Keep it vague, Lou… keep it vague…

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    • MarkyMark says:

      He had evidence and ignored it just like the BBC and is now making money from it! HA HA HA HA!

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  20. Guest Who says:

    OT, but…

    The unintelligible in pursuit of the unconscionable.

    And despite this, Boris is actually making Labour look a better option.

    Strange days.

    If the MSM went on strike and Slick vanished from the airwaves, they’d walk it.

    Frankly we need more BBC bottle blondes and baldy Knobs screaming ASAP.

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  21. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Descendants of African slaves have said they will change their surnames, after a Dutch city decided to scrap fees for the procedure.

    ***
    Jeremy Kinte Hunt at the front of the queue after all the male BBC studio ‘mis speaks’ that oddly did not affect Labour HoP colleagues?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Many societies throughout history have practised slavery, and Muslim societies were no exception.

      It’s thought that as many people were enslaved in the Eastern slave trade as in the Atlantic slave trade.

      It’s ironic that when the Atlantic slave trade was abolished the Eastern trade expanded, suggesting that for some Africans the abolition of the Atlantic trade didn’t lead to freedom, but merely changed their slave destination.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slavery_1.shtml

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  22. AsISeeIt says:

    …on 18 April 1930, the BBC’s news announcer had nothing to communicate. “There is no news,” was the script of the 20:45 news bulletin, before piano music was played for the rest of the 15-minute segment

    This was the BBC’s nostalgic reflection on simpler times expressed recently in the wake of Theresa May’s annoucement of a snap General Election in April 2017 – OK, that was news and I’m sure if Ramsay MacDonald’s failing second Labour government had collapsed some fifteen months earlier than it did, in August 1931, then that would certainly have made the BBC’s contemporary definition of news.

    In 2017 the BBC were fairly candid about how things had moved on news-wise: ‘These days, the BBC has more staff and more capacity than it did in 1930. But it also has a different definition of what the news is‘ – you can say that again. Which is a major factor in why Mr AsI junked his TV licence and sadly now never tunes into Radio 5 and especially not Radio 4.

    The rest of the corporate media are not much better. But since I can’t tell you there’s no news today and return you to the Wagner opera Parsifal being performed at the Queen’s Hall in Langham Place, London – although, come to think of it, in these days of internet links I probably could – let’s not strain the moderator’s patience and instead delve in to see what purports to be news in our print press.

    It’s ANT and DECades‘ chuckles the Daily Mailas duo scoop top TV award for 20th year running’ – providing almost the very definition of our complaint “Not News!”

    Awards, eh? In the much contested category of “someone said something” we have the formerly patriotic Times with: ‘Queen and her family are BLM supporters, royal insider claims‘ – and there was me thinking where the Royals are concerned the taking the knee went quite the other way around?

    To the subcategory of “someone said something rude” where the Daily Mirror takes a hopeful punt (or should that be a duff penalty kick?) on retired footballer: ‘Rio Ferdinand heartbreak. My family’s racism torment. Star says those closest to him broken by online abuse‘ – now how did I guess this wasn’t some nasty name calling encountered at his local supermarket, some discrimination on a plane or train, or being shunned by neighbours over his garden wall? Of course it was online.

    Nearly half of NHS staff not medically trained‘ (Telegraph) – no surprise revelation there.

    Deadly toll of “remote” GPs. Coroner links deaths to lack of face-to-face appointments ++ But doctors vow: Phone and video calls are here to stay‘ (Mail) – this we already know. Having encountered those signs at the local NHS clinic warning “If you feel unwell please do not enter surgery

    The Guardian features actress and film director Karen Gillan who has gone from some typical female celeb angst in 2018 :”I’m living with a consistent, subtle homesickness” to ‘Hollywood action hero… female-led, John Wick-inspired franchise starter might be more of the same but it’s done with just about enough flair to pass the time‘ – how could the Gruan give it a thumbs down, it was female-led?

    Admittedly I don’t understand feminist politics. I saw a sign the other day reading “free period products” and I thought it was an antiques sale.

    Perhaps I should watch: ‘The return of Sex Education. TV’s funniest, smartest show about initimacy. Its stars and creator talk to ‘i’”- yes, but that’s not news, is it?

    Commuters clash over mask rules‘ shouts the freebie Metro. But then rows back faster than an out of service bus past a stop at the end of a driver’s shift on a rainy day: ‘Traveller in mask as officer, perhaps exempt, stays mask-free on a London train‘ and ‘Passengers with and without face coverings share Tube carriage yesterday. Some may have medical reasons not to wear one‘ – please tell me this frontpage splash was a joke.

    Huge rise in protection from Covid booster jabs‘ (Times)

    Oxford jab professor: we don’t need mass boosters‘ (Telegraph)

    You pays your money for your news and frankly… you wastes your money.

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  23. MarkyMark says:

    On Saturday America will be marking the twentieth anniversary of 9/11. The observances will be muted, because the world’s superpower managed to lose the war on terror so totally preposterously that it has made itself a global laughingstock. So instead I thought we’d revisit the summer of 2001 with a few columns of mine from the days before “the day the world changed”.
    https://www.steynonline.com/11681/what-we-were-talking-about

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  24. MarkyMark says:

    Ah, the White Man’s Burden, Millennium Edition: no matter how long ago the stiff-upper-lipped Brit scrammed out of Africa, it’s still his fault. Anti-racism, like the abolitionist movement, is a Western concept, always tinged with a bit of progressive self-loathing. But in Durban it became clear that anti-racism has shrivelled into the modern world’s most acceptable form of racism – anti-white. Its international evolution thus mirrors its development in the pace-setting Western jurisdictions that invented it.

    https://www.steynonline.com/11681/what-we-were-talking-about

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  25. MarkyMark says:

    As seen from AslSeeIt ….

    The proportion of clinical staff who are professionally trained has declined from 55.5 per cent in 2013 to just 52.5 per cent now, meaning 47.5 per cent of staff have no medical qualifications.13 hours ago

    Nearly half of all NHS staff have no medical qualifications

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    • JimS says:

      Recent visits to hospital prompts me to ask two questions:

      a) Where are the men?
      b) Where are the grey-haired?

      Certainly not among the staff. The NHS has become young and female, meaning that we now have to train two to four times as many as in Doctor In The House days just to keep existing posts filled.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    9am Yet another BBC prog that says #WhiteManBad #BlackPeopleAreVictims

    Certainly old injustices like the Mangrove 9 should be remembered
    equally with all the other injustices the BBC chooses to ignore

    Prog opens by framing that UK was racist
    Then first of the black guys, says he got to Britain by being a stowaway … and that is treated as some mind of laugh.
    Another admits he made money on the ship by gambling against people who were naive.
    .. that hints he was cheating them

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    • StewGreen says:

      The prog is often word for word the same as the Wikipedia page
      … that is strange

      So far neither mention the charges that the men were found guilty of, just that were found NotGuilty of the main charges.

      The prog does mention about a severed pigs head being used as a main part of the demo
      to signify police.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Prog ends ..announcement that Hillary Clinton really recommends the book that the following prog is based on
      The book about Kurdish all female fighting units beating iSIS

      After that prog we had a trailer for the new season’s BBC football coverage .. it only featured a female commentator.

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  27. G says:

    “230 refugees from Afghanistan have arrived in Wales and are being resettled here. The majority of those arriving have supported the Welsh armed forces over the last two decades”

    Welsh armed forces?

    “Wales is now now accommodating 50 families, comprising approximately 230 individuals” That’s an average of 4.6 members of a family – so far.
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/230-refugees-afghanistan-arrived-wales-21530633?

    Those who died. All white:
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-soldiers-who-died-afghanistan-21331179

    That’s ‘White Privilege’ for you.

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  28. MarkyMark says:

    Cheeky BBC …. (or not) ….

    Afghanistan crisis: Five lessons learned (or not) since 9/11

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58502199

    What lessons, if any, … ISLAM IS RIGHT ABOUT WOMEN!

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  29. MarkyMark says:

    Racism in Saudi Arabia extends to allegations of imprisonment, physical abuse, rape, murder, [1] overwork, and wage theft, especially of foreign workers who are given little protections under the law.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Saudi_Arabia

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    • tomo says:

      allegations?

      pffff…..

      KSA isn’t that different in reality to other peninsula states … some just have more paid-for shills in the media.

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    • G says:

      MM,

      With the Saudi elite joining in. Bless. They even agreed with Marcos in the 80’s to redirect remittances to him rather than to the families of the Philippine ex-pats. Strikes ensued no matter that strikes were banned.

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  30. G.W.F. says:

    Remember the BBC’s response to 9/11.

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    • tomo says:

      what was the first vid?

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      • StewGreen says:

        I looked at the html and it looks the 2 YouTube vids are the same
        but the first one has a suffix telling me that the link was picked up from the page when it was in PLAYLIST mode.
        Normally for the link to work here, you have pick up a clean link
        by right clicking over the video as it it playing

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      • G.W.F. says:

        tomo

        Both vids are the same. They are frequently removed from you tube, but people keep putting them up. Eventually I found one that I could share.

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  31. MarkyMark says:

    British Intelligence Services ….

    “The fall of Afghanistan to the Taliban is likely to have “emboldened” so-called UK terrorists, the director general of MI5 has warned.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58512901

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  32. MarkyMark says:

    Shhh …. HSBC Hong Kong Bank is good ….

    A museum commemorating the deadly 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown has been raided by Hong Kong police.

    Officers were later seen carrying exhibits out of the June 4 Museum.

    Four members of the group that ran the museum, the Hong Kong Alliance, were detained on Wednesday – including prominent pro-democracy activist and barrister Chow Hang Tung.

    The arrests were made under the national security law, which has a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

    Police have accused Ms Chow of inciting subversion, her lawyers said.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-58506598

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  33. pugnazious says:

    The world was shocked and outraged by the Taliban’s methods of dealing with those they saw as collaborators….and yet the BBC et al hero worship someone who employed similar methods….

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    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC urged to remove sculpture of naked boy from outside Broadcasting House because creator raped his daughters
      Eric Gill’s statue Prospero And Ariel stands in front of Broadcasting House
      Sculptor’s diary revealed he molested two of his daughters and family dog
      He also had an incestuous relationship with his younger sister Gladys
      Sexual abuse charity says it is ‘an insult’ to keep the statue on display
      By OLIVIA WILLIAMS

      PUBLISHED: 20:59, 22 April 2013 | UPDATED: 23:14, 22 April 2013

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      • tomo says:

        Do as we say and not as we do then?

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      • pugnazious says:

        Not even of Gill….so in essence all his work must be removed…..kind of a slippery slope that one….and it’s a bit of a cheek for a Churchill charity to keep using his name to benefit from that whilst at the same time denouncing him and trying to disassociate themselves.

        Some say the problem with Britain is too many white people…and their history and culture….all of which must be erased, rewritten or forgotten.

        I might suggest the problem is the new colonists…and if we want to ‘decolonise Britain’ then perhaps they should go rather than the natives, their culture and history.

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        • MarkyMark says:

          According to racial equality activist Richard Lapchick, the NBA in 2020 was composed of 74.2 percent black players, 16.9 percent white players, 2.2 percent Latino players of any race, and 0.4 percent Asian players. There were 6.3 percent of the players classified as “other” races.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        BBC urged to remove sculpture of naked boy from outside Broadcasting House because creator raped his daughters

        Perhaps the BBC got the idea for this show from the artist

        9k=

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        • JohnC says:

          If the BBC can turn a blind eye to peodophilia across Islam and it’s prophet, one little statue won’t bother them.
          Besides : isn’t the BBC where the peodo’s fit in best ?. Like the Nazi party leadership, they cover up for their own deviants. Just ask Jimmy.

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    • StewGreen says:

      “On Plymouth Hoe, site of one of England’s greatest victories, the statue of Francis Drake is to have a plaque added telling of his involvement in slavery.
      So why not ?
      Nelson Mandela – Terrorist Bomber.
      Martin Luther King – Adulterer.
      Gandhi – Racist.”

      Emily Pankhurst & the Suffragettes – violent terrorists that put back women’s rights
      JFK – serial womaniser
      Churchill – drunk

      Surely there are principles
      like “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”

      To me it’s not that Mandela statue needs a warning
      It’s that the Drake one didn’t
      Everyone knows that the statue is commemorating POSITIVE SPIRITS of some occasions .. eg standing up to the Armada

      Yet the same applies to Mandela : that at the time of handover to majority rule, he went for reconciliation not vengeance ..and it was other people that later did things against that spirit.

      In another setting you could talk about the bad things that Drake and Mandela did at earlier points in their lives.

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  34. StewGreen says:

    10am local news : First 3 stories were all sport
    #1 Female British* tennis player reaches US final
    #2 Yorkshire Cricket Club report has said that there was “no question” Azeem Rafiq was the victim of racial harassment and bullying during his first spell at the county.

    #3 Test match suddenly abandoned
    .. Last night all the Indian players tested negative
    It was known backroom staff had Covid , but play was expected to continue.
    First reports said India had forfeited the match.. this has now been changed.
    (Coincidentally if the Indian players now isolate for 10 days, they will all be considered safe for the opening of the million dollar Indian cricket league in 11 days time)

    #4 “Covid will get worse, here’s a local voice that we fished around for ”
    #5 ‘Vaccine expert says a booster is not necessary for all, only limited groups’

    * “Raducanu was born on 13 November 2002 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, to Ion Răducanu and Renée, who originate from Bucharest, Romania and Shenyang, China “

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  35. pugnazious says:

    The BBC is keen to glorify the ‘Black Panthers’ and ‘Black Power’, Black Nationalsim, Black identity and Black Pride……the Brixton riots are now ‘The Uprising’ and all Black violence is ‘The Resistance’.

    Naturally it’s a very one-sided view of history and an acceptance of Black violence and racism that would never be allowed were the person to be white, and especially working class, ala Tommy Robinson.

    Look at today’s hero worship of the ‘Mangrove Nine’…people who organised and lead a riot in the 1970’s. The BBC’s ‘Reunion’ was told from one angle only…..we only got the Blacktivists’ own decidedly biased viewpoint.

    And the BBC told a whopper….apparently the Judge found that the police were racist…..er….except that’s not quite what he said….this is what he said…

    ‘Summing up, the judge concluded that the trial had “regrettably shown evidence of racial hatred on both sides”.’

    The case is being used to portray Britain and ‘The System’ as racist….but hold on…..the magistrate who first heard the case threw it out defending the right of Blacks to agitate…and then the case was dismissed….soooooo….’The[racist] System’ found them not guilty…..even though the defendants had tried but failed to rig the jury by making it all black …the jury was in fact 10 [racist] whites and two blacks….no irony in that eh?

    The BBC has a long, and very distorted, narrative on the trial…

    https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/mediapacks/mangrove

    Its opening line sets up the scene…

    ‘Set from the late 1960s to the mid-1980s, the films each tell a different story involving London’s West Indian community, whose lives have been shaped by their own force of will, despite rampant racism and discrimination.’

    What’s always missing from the BBC’s narrative is the White people and their rights…ie the indigenous population…oh yes…they’re there but only as racist stereotypes, always portrayed as unthinking, irrational bigoted racists…but there’s never any empathy, no sympathy for their position…no rational and balanced look at what was happening as thousands of completely alien people suddenly turned up in their community and changed their way of life, their cities…their history. Their land and culture was being ‘stolen’ in effect.

    Did they not have reason to object…was not the very natural reaction to kick back against the colonists and settlers who came here unasked?… the indigenous population had no say at all in this….and still don’t as they are told to shut up and go away.

    Why would they not react against this invasion? It has little to do with skin colour just difference…culture, way of life and attitudes….if it had been white Americans the reaction would have been the same [or Irish]….remember ‘Over paid, over sexed and over here’? There were endless ‘battles’ between Brits and Yanks and Canadians and other troops stationed here in WW2.

    The white population were fully justified to react against the new colonists as their way of life was being eroded and their cities changed totally….and note how the Blacks clustered togetehr not wanting to live with Whitey…so who’s racist?

    The BBC just refuses to accept or even recognise that…was it racism?…or maybe we should call it ‘The Uprising’ or ‘The Resistance’ of the white indigenous population defending their land, way of life and identity.

    Weren’t they just standing up for White Pride, White Power and White Nationalism.

    Can’t imagine the BBC celebrating that…lol.

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  36. pugnazious says:

    The BBC’s Sarah Baxter in the US has an interesting spin on history….apparently the belief that America ‘had it coming’ on 9/11 was a Far-Right narrative that she has traced back to the steps of the Capitol Building on January 6…the belief that wars are there only to maintain the ‘military industrial complex’ is a Far-Right narrative.

    From Spiked…..How 9/11 exposed the depths of Western self-loathing

    Hmmm…the anti ‘military industrial complex’ movement has long been a left-wing one combined with its anti-war beliefs. Are we actually saying Trump and his supporters are actually lefties as Trump himself long railed against the war in Afghanistan?

    https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1227500527686021120/photo/1

    ‘Keir Starmer
    No more illegal wars. Introduce a Prevention of Military Intervention Act and put human rights at the heart of foreign policy. Review all UK arms sales and make us a force for international peace and justice.
    7:51 AM · Feb 12, 2020′

    Just another BBC attempt to join the dots and make a damning picture from a spider-web of spurious and unrelated events, people and beliefs as it tries to spin yet aother narrative about Trump, his supporters and events on Jan 6…events which even the FBI could not find any evidence to support the theory that Jan 6 was somehow a coordinated coup attempt rather than a motley rabble who found themselves with a literally open door…and so took th eopportunity to make some noise and cause a stink.

    ‘FBI has found ‘SCANT’ evidence the Capitol riot was an organized plot by Trump supporters to overturn the election, says new report despite Democrats'[and BBC’s] insistence it was a COUP’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9911593/FBI-finds-scant-evidence-U-S-Capitol-attack-coordinated-sources.html

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    • MarkyMark says:

      I used to defend the BBC. Now I’m switching off
      The Today programme in particular has given up all pretence to presenting an objective point of view

      MICHAEL HOWARD
      9 September 2021 • 8:00pm

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    • StewGreen says:

      Lord Michael Howard:
      The Today programme has crossed the boundary from which it could have been regarded as a plausibly authoritative, if biased, guide to the national discourse to a place where it seems to have given up all pretence to an objective point of view.

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  37. MarkyMark says:

    YOUR TAX. PAYING FOR TERRORISM IN THE UK.

    A Camden theatre that receives tens of thousands of taxpayer funding has been slammed for hosting a three-day event with a group that Boris previously described as “apologists for terror”. In April 2021 they were given a £33,671 grant by DCMS…
    (order-order)

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  38. StewGreen says:

    Local news “Almost 1 million people had Covid in the last week
    .. most under 24”

    em, that’s great news, that’s another 1 million kids naturally immune
    and that’s better than vaccine
    Can’t be many weeks until almost all have immunity.

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  39. micknotmike says:

    Well it’s a sombre anniversary tomorrow, so i thought I’d see how the BBC were handling it. There is a short video of “How did the world respond?” On comes the inevitable talking hijab. “I notice open hostility to muslims now, i don’t feel welcome in this country”. Good. How I remember it is the BBC showing Palestinians firing into the air and dancing for joy. You don’t have to go to Gaza now, any UK inner city will be a fair replica.

    I bought an internet radio a while back, as LBC is woker than a woke thing on wokeday. I’ve taken to listening to cheesy Southern country stations, particularly WQSB in Boaz, Ala. They play the stars and stripes in full at noon every day (6pm our time). They had an advert earlier, something like “Hanks Steakhouse, best ribeye in the state VETERAN OWNED”. Obviously the station didn’t add this subtext, but they aired the advertisment without comment, proudly probably.

    See media, you can do it. What would james O’Brien say?

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Hopefully his head would explode.

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    • JimS says:

      “I bought an internet radio a while back..”

      When I bought my first one you could dial up those old comedy programmes that the BBC now puts up language and attitude warnings about.

      Then they ‘improved’ the service, so now I can only listen ‘live’.

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    • taffman says:

      micknotmike
      I stopped listening to LBC some time ago and tuned in to Talk Radio. Although there are one or two wokies there also.

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  40. vlad says:

    Two more years of useless box-ticker Caress-a Dick.

    Here’s what GB News think of her.

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    • JimS says:

      I remember them telling us that Jean Charles de Menezes had been shot whilst vaulting a ticket barrier.

      Later it was revealed that he was shot inside a tube train.

      How can anyone believe anything that Dick says?

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  41. StewGreen says:

    R4 Trailer “Electric ride UK with me Peter Curran as I drive from John o’ Groats to Land’s End”
    … it sounded 100% electric Car PR

    In 2010 he did a similar show
    “Peter Curran Electric Car Odyssey Around Europe” .. that was repeated every year until 2016

    (BTW his las tweet praises a Remainer for getting his Irish passport
    BBC/Guardian bubbleworld)

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    • StewGreen says:

      Aug 10 tweet
      did U see GUY MARTIN last night on C4 – he drove an electric car from lands end to J O groats & back
      – the journey was a nightmare – took twice as long & cost 40% more than a diesel car !

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  42. MarkyMark says:

    Police …

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  43. StewGreen says:

    Checking that BBC story about Ivermectin cases blocking a hospital already blocked with gunshot wound cases.
    The cheeky BBC didn’t put a correction note at the top.
    No they buried it at the bottom
    and the main claim at the bottom of paragraph 1, was completely substituted and then extra paragraphs added to make the original conclusion seem sound.
    Screenshots etc https://twitter.com/No2BS/status/1436326914789105680

    BTW NewsSniffer seems to have let their https security certificate expire, so their pages are blocked by Chrome
    but I can get through on the Microsoft browser.

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  44. MarkyMark says:

    MI5: 31 late-stage terror plots foiled in four years in UK
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58512901

    Terrorism in the UK: number of suspects tops 40,000 after MI5 rechecks its list
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/terrorism-in-the-uk-number-of-suspects-tops-40-000-after-mi5-rechecks-its-list-pqm6k62ph

    Home Office loses track of more than 600,000 people who should have left country, finds immigration watchdog
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-immigration-visa-out-stay-lose-track-uk-people-customs-control-a8278966.html

    The British Army is the principal land warfare force of the United Kingdom, a part of the British Armed Forces along with the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force. As of 2021, the British Army comprises 82,230 regular full-time personnel and 30,030 reserve personnel.[4]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army

    Army imam says British Muslims can be good soldiers
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25680656

    Manchester Arena bomber was rescued from Libya by Royal Navy
    This article is more than 3 years old
    Salman Abedi, who killed 22 people in a suicide attack last year, was saved from civil war in 2014
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/31/manchester-arena-bomber-was-rescued-from-libya-by-royal-navy

    China promotes education drive to make boys more ‘manly’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55926248

    Army chiefs are setting up a £500,000 ‘woke force’ to develop politically correct policies as ex-officers brand MoD’s move as ‘liberal madness’
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8701809/Army-chiefs-setting-500-000-woke-force.html

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  45. MarkyMark says:

    A notice from China’s education ministry has caused a stir after it suggested young Chinese men had become too “feminine”. The message has been criticised as sexist by many online users – but some say China’s male celebrities are partly to blame.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55926248

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  46. MarkyMark says:

    More than 14,000 migrants have made it across the English Channel this year, crossing from France to the UK.

    Home Secretary Priti Patel wants to allow the UK Border Force to be able to turn back boats carrying migrants across the English Channel in certain circumstances.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46758600

    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Home Office loses track of more than 600,000 people who should have left country, finds immigration watchdog
    UK border checks branded ‘shambolic’
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-immigration-visa-out-stay-lose-track-uk-people-customs-control-a8278966.html

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  47. Guest Who says:

    That ‘independent’ (c) BBc EdGuds lady The BBC pays to come on and say ‘independent’ things to Amol that serves BBc interests has issued this:

    *****
    Enders Analysis released this research on 10 September 2021.

    The rumoured BBC licence fee settlement (with rises below inflation) may result in a real term annual shortfall of c. £481 million by 2027

    The worst* mooted scenarios of decriminalisation or absolute cuts to the licence fee have been avoided (for now)

    A smaller BBC will have knock-on effects in the wider TV ecology, with fewer economic benefits flowing to the creative economy and a dilution of local content**

    ____

    *Careful dear, your slip is showing.

    **Given it is a sorry joke, no loss.

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  48. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 from yesterday – the page is about to be updated

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

    The three giveaways to something being wrong about the ‘reflection’ in the photograph are:
    1. The mask under the chin of the girl is slightly different to reality
    2. Her companion has her hand to her forehead in the virtual image, the reflection
    3. The man in the blue shirt and dark trousers reflected in the shop window is in a completely different position to the real image.

    How many did you spot? No doubt the BBC paid Getty their usual fee out of the bounteous pot that the Licence Fee payer gives the BBC and that includes poor young people on minimum wage and those on average wage. Licence Fee-payers paid for a ‘doctored’ fake photo!

    Dishonest BBC.

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  49. MarkyMark says:

    Jeremy Corbyn
    Independent MP for Islington North

    Loyalty to the Party failed … Hamas are still his friends!
    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10133/jeremy_corbyn/islington_north

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