276 Responses to Weekend Thread September 11 2021

  1. pugnazious says:

    LOL…..frontpage news in Guardian and on BBC…

    ‘Police investigate arson attack on Didsbury mosque as a hate crime’

    Apparently a very minor fire at the frontdoor…the BBC tells us it was a ‘blaze’….‘No-one was injured in the blaze, late on Friday night, at Didsbury Mosque in Burton Road, officers said.’. Police are checking CCTV.

    Gets loads of publicity as a ‘hate crime’ without any proof…and will be silently shelved if the outcome is inconvenient.

    Remember the fire at the Muslim Darul Uloom school in London which they told us was probably an EDL hate crime [along with ‘EDL’ grafitti elsewhere]? The police arrested 5 people..no names, no nothing about them. Then complete silence.
    Let me guess…the 5 were all Muslim pupils at the school and the police decided this wasn’t a good message to send out that Muslims were faking hate crimes….as if they would…lol.


  2. taffman says:

    “Armed police arrest married Afghan father, 33, in Manchester as a suspected Taliban terrorist after RAF rescued him from Kabul”
    Al Beeb ????


  3. Fedup2 says:

    Another Reason to avoid ‘last night of the Proms ‘- the coup by C4 of negotiating live viewing rights for the tennis from Amazon Prime ….
    ….I wonder if the BBC had any interest in this ?


    • Zelazek says:

      Yes, you might have thought celebrating a female Brit of Romanian-Chinese heritage would have been right up their street. They missed a trick there. Especially as Emma Raducanu is a fantastic player, a deserved winner and a very pleasant person to boot. Her opponent, Leylah Fernandez, with her Ecuador-Filipino parentage, should have excited the Beeb as well. It was a great tennis match. I was pleased that Emma won. Leylah reminded me too much of the Vietcong guy in The Deer Hunter who was conducting the russian roulette torture scenes.


  4. Thoughtful says:

    quick to report the highs slow to report the lows:

    -14.8°C in #Oymyakon (Yakutia) Flag of Russia on Sept. 10.
    This is 13°C below average and exceptionally #cold for this time of year. Except on Sept. 1, 1969 (-15.1°C), it’s colder than any daily records from Sept. 2 to Sept 13!
    Also -14.4°C in Delyankir. #Russia @yakutia


  5. StewGreen says:

    The body of a *man* has been recovered by the Coastguard in the English Channel, after being spotted by another vessel.
    The body, which was lifted from the water this afternoon, has been taken to Eastbourne, Sussex Police have said.
    Officers said the man had been seen in the water in the “mid-English Channel”.
    They have not identified him, or confirmed his nationality.

    Theoretically it could be a suicide from a cliff
    but the SkyNews page is all about channel immigrants.


  6. Deborah says:

    I never thought I would agree with Lembit Opik on anything but I have just listened to him speak on climate change on GB News with Neil Oliver. Lembit is of the opinion that the climate has always changed and very little of it is to do with man. He is also dubious that sufficient electricity can be made from renewables for all the electric cars that the government want to replace petrol/diesel by 2030. On what I heard, I could almost vote for the man if he stood in my constituency. The man he was debating, also a Lib Dem looked as though he was the sort of person who ate only brown rice.

    First Mr C Biggins and now Lembit. I never get these sort of shocks on the BBC.


    • JimS says:

      Could it be that normal people are just, well, normal – and the queer, poly-gendered BAMEs are the rare exception?

      Despite the BBC, (Channel 4 etc.).

      (Normal is one of the many stolen words. We used to be able to say that it was normal for people to have two legs, i.e. for the vast majority. Now we have to ‘celebrate’ all differences so it doesn’t matter how many legs one has, from zero and up, everyone is normal, except, perversely those with two legs).


      • theisland says:

        Western societies have ended up with a vast range of ‘normal’ people sandwiched between the abnormal = i.e. the super-rich globalist mob (Schwab, Gates etc.) on one side and the ‘woke’ and deluded, teamed up with the savages, on the other. The globalists, who now control the ‘woke’ and appease the savages, are using various methods to break up the ‘normal’ sandwich filling. For example, they are presently using covid to divide the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. It is up to all us ‘normals’ to stick together.


  7. vlad says:

    David Wood: “On the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, let’s review the 40,000 terrorist attacks that have occurred since then, and discuss what we should have learned from them.”
    Amidst all the gloom, Wood ends on a note of optimism as he points to the ‘avalanche of apostasy in the muslim world’.
    Muslims are leaving the faith in their millions.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Thank you for putting that up . If you have 29 minutes 54 seconds – it would be of value to watch – I learnt a lot – and it helps with the context of where we are – and how the need for British institutions to be subverted for the progression of Islam -is so important for Muslims ….


    • theisland says:

      Thanks vlad – an excellent video.
      Everyone should watch and then revisit the fork-tongued utterances of the Muslims interviewed by GB News and posted on the previous page of this thread.

      I wonder how long it will stay up on YouTube? All our MPs should be required to watch it and then to make individual statements in the House which are recorded for posterity in Hansard.


  8. Thoughtful says:

    try reading through this and not shedding a tear:



  9. Tabs says:

    Last Night at the Proms has about 50% Union flags and 50% EU flags/hats.

    Interesting all the EU hats are exactly the same as if someone provided them for free. All the shots of other people watching outside of the Albert Hall all have British flags.

    What the chance that all EU flags are only in the Albert Hall and in front of the BBC cameras?


  10. Thoughtful says:

    Despite the obvious denial the fact the question is asked tells you all you need to know about the undercurrent no one wants to talk about.



  11. Seppers says:

    Last night of the proms…
    Some beautiful arrangements, great performers, and a nice conductor with a great message.
    Shame about the politicisation with the EU hats and flags. (Divisive, and not in the spirit, and they kept showing them.)
    Puts me off.
    And it struck me that a different sort of prommers were there as well… shouting over the start of the national anthem.
    Overall very good though. Credit where due.


  12. vlad says:

    This is a few days old, but interesting.
    The Times created a cartoon around the actual recorded speech of Biden after the withdrawal (rout) from Kabul, gently mocking him.
    Personally, I don’t see the point: the cartoon is neither funny nor informative, just silly. (The only mildly satirical bit being when the Imbecile walks right past the lectern and has to be redirected to it.)
    But what I find interesting are the comments -presumably by Times readers – all critical of the Times and Biden, suggesting that Biden wasn’t as universally revered as our intellectual superiors in the upmarket media believed.

    – Does The Times really think we’ve forgot how they were all for Biden? The media asked for this guy and they got him. Don’t mock your dear leader now.

    – It’s amazing how the Times are now throwing old joe under the bus yet they were one of his main supporters 😂pathetic hypocrites.

    – “May God protect our troops (from me)” – Biden

    – He planned so well he forgot to tell his allies he was pulling out.

    – When the left eats its own.

    – The Times, FT, NYT, WP, CNN, MSNBC, BBC and the rest of MSM all have blood on their hands.

    – The Times and Sunday Times were all for Biden during election. Trump wouldn’t have messed it up. Say what you will about the carrot but he woulda handled it



  13. StewGreen says:

    Cartoonist John Nash @CartoonsPan documents 30 of Packham’s porkies in a way that even BBC HR will understand.


  14. StewGreen says:

    Any wokery and tickboxing ?

    Bolsonaro item : words “Far right” “Far right agenda” used
    Merkel item : words “Far right anti islam party” “Far right AFD party” used

    BBC 7:25pm Hit-List Celebrity Specials Episode
    – Chris Packham, his stepdaughter Megan McCubbin,
    comedian Russell Kane,
    – Drag Race UK winner Lawrence Chaney,
    – Nihal Arthanayake and TV personality Scarlett Moffatt
    Thank God no normal white men.


  15. StewGreen says:

    6:15pm Loose ends
    Helen Lewis : they referenced her books “Difficult Women: A History of Feminism in 11 Fights”

    @kazvaremadeit plugged her new book : “Stay Woke, Kids” ..”Black issues”


    Stay Woke, Kids!, an illustrated book for children and adults, covering topics such as white privilege, toxic masculinity and racism.
    It employs humour, rhymes and illustrations “to convey big ideas for young minds”

    : https://bit.ly/3jBfCqt


    • vlad says:

      Stay Woke, Kids! – is that a parody? I can’t tell any more.

      If it’s for real, how utterly depressing that they’re poisoning young minds with toxic wokeness.


  16. StewGreen says:

    The proms on BBC2 and BBC1 had astronomer Maggie Aderin-Pocock commentating
    Diversity ?
    FFS they already made her President of the British Science Association

    “The bit from Blue Peter”. I like it, Maggie Aderin-Pocock.


    • BRISSLES says:

      “Working Together” ???? one of the biggest misnomer’s ever, try telling that to some sh…t bosses who continually want to take credit for the work of their underlings. I experienced it during my years of working, and from what I can gather it’s still rampant in the work place.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Racism in Saudi? No? Racisim in Africa? No?


  17. Fedup2 says:

    So – C4 taken over on Saturday Night by Amazon Prime – and a great game of Tennis …. somehow it is the way forward for this p poor publicly funded lefty poison to be taken over by a proper capitalist company to reform it ….

    .. a first step before the ‘aunty ‘one …


  18. Scroblene says:

    Game for a laugh…

    But the best news is about our Emma of course!


  19. Guest Who says:

    Good for her.

    Sopes steering clear of other matters in that colourful language way the BBC can get distressed by. On occasion.


    • vlad says:

      Call me old fashioned but I prefer my BBC reporters to keep their language clean. And to use words to express emotions, not expletives. It’s what they’re paid their obscene salaries for.

      He then tweets: ’You’ve got me on my knees Leylah’.

      How very drôle. But it sounds like our intrepid reporter has a bit of a crush on dusky young tennis stars. Wouldn’t be the first time a beeboid fancied young girls.


  20. brexiteerkent says:

    I used to watch last night of the proms every year without fail. This year I didn’t even notice it had come and gone. I didn’t bother to check. Upon reading the BBC article below and the comments above, I am glad I missed it. Even reading the article made me reach for the nearest bucket ..


    “The Latvian musician’s performance of Astor Piazzolla’s Libertango… came halfway through a diverse concert …The Prommers, bedecked in crowns, bow ties, bowler hats and a mixture of EU and union flags”

    What has become of my country 🙁 🙁 🙁


  21. AsISeeIt says:

    Geronimo is dead, Raducanu is crowned queen…

    It’s hard to tell whether the nation is supposed to be in mourning: ‘Fury as alpaca refused a funeral’ (Daily Star Sunday); or alternatively we should all be out dancing in the streets: ‘Britain rallies behind Emma‘ (Sunday Mirror); ‘She did it! Britain’s new hero Raducanu‘ (Sunday Telegraph)

    The Sunday Express channels Winston Churchill in response to the international tennis teenager – who just happens to have a British passport – and attended a selective grammar school, mind you, in Bromley (but we won’t dwell on that): ‘Blood, sweat and cheers as Brit Radacunu wins US Open

    The Mail on Sunday would have us believe: ‘Nation grinds to a halt as millions cheer on Emma‘ – really? I’m guessing TV viewing figures might have crept up into the low double digit millions – rivaling, perhaps, a 1970s Wednesday evening edition of the soap opera Crossroads.

    I’m not sure whether to be chuffed about the Mirror pinching my tabloidese putative headline for our Emma, which I coined yesterday: ‘Love all’ – on reflection I think this is less prescience and more a warning sign of brain rot on my part – I’m reading too many lame press headlines for my own good.

    Were I composing a thesis on this form of media phenomenon I might term it a case of rootless residual patriotism. RRP for short.

    Props to the young girl herself – the immdiate celebrity pecuniary effect will do her no harm at all: ‘From Rad to riches‘ (Sunday People) – we’ll see how she handles it, long term.

    The BBC is likewise looking for an outlet for some RRP (rootless residual patriotism): ‘Last Night Of The Proms: Accordion tangos end season on a joyous note… The Prommers, bedecked in crowns, bow ties, bowler hats and a mixture of EU and union flags, were typically enthusiastic, especially after missing out on the 2020 season.

    Good old BBC balance reflected in the flags there – some love Britain, some… not so much.

    But the BBC couldn’t help themselves. As much as they appeared to celebrate the jovial cricket kit-attired Australian tenor Stuart Skelton and his colonial banter… ‘For all his charm, accordion virtuoso Sidorova was the indisputable highlight of the night‘ – and it’s not just the appeal of a performance with apparent shades of a Latvian folk music Eurovision time filler act. While the votes from the international juries are counted here’s fifteen minutes of some bird in folk costume strumming her banjo.

    With the BBC, along with the ideology, there’s always some corporate fish to fry: ‘...it was her second-half performance of Libertango – a staple of Strictly Come Dancing – that really showcased her captivating and witty playing style, as she traded riffs back-and-forth with the BBC Symphony Orchestra. Viewers and prommers alike lapped up the performance

    But what of farmer Helen and her alpaca – what’s the coda there?

    I can’t even have his ashes‘ (Daily Star Sunday) ‘Government officials are refusing to hand over his remains

    I guess an alpaca’s body belongs to the State.

    Covid jabs for 12-15 year olds “set to start in two weeks”‘ (The Observer)

    On the subject of education, the Labour leader (remember him? Yes you do… forensic genius… and a bit of a stuffed shirt… that’s him, Sir Keir) has been doing his homework: ‘Sir Keir Starmer is to publish a 14,000-word mission statement to Labour members on the eve of the party’s annual conference later this month‘ (Sunday Times) – sounds more like a punishment of 14,000 lines he’s been given by his overly teacher representing party. “Mission Statement” – one suspects that bit of corporate-speak will butter few parsnips with the working class old Labour residual.

    Were I composing a thesis on this form of Left-wing phenomenon I might term it a case of rootless residual leftism. RRL for short.


  22. Guest Who says:

    BBC answers an foi. Ish.


    Well, Christmas is coming.

    Mason still pop back to ‘visit’?


  23. Guest Who says:

    Get them young.

    Mostly by Rog, Matt and Justin.

    And BBC ex Newsnight staff posting photos from ferries to keep things feisty.


  24. Peter Grimes says:

    Good balance on The Marr (Replacement) Programme this morning.

    Extreme Leftist Al Beeb chief interrogator Toenails Robinson reviewing the papers with Leftist Grauniad female reporter and Left-leaning head of the IFS.

    Plus ca change…


  25. Guest Who says:

    Phew. What… were the odds?


  26. Guest Who says:

    Used to watch JAG. She seems unrepresentative of those portrayed. Must be a new batch that came after.

    Adopting the Springster technique to garnering information she likes.


  27. Guest Who says:

    Now with added BBC.

    Lord help us.


  28. JimS says:

    Guido quotes Tony Blair:

    “Islamism, both the ideology and the violence, is a first-order security threat; and, unchecked, it will come to us, even if centred far from us, as 9/11 demonstrated… This ideology – whether Shia, promulgated by the Islamic Republic of Iran, or Sunni, promoted by groups on a spectrum from the Muslim Brotherhood through to al-Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram and many others – has been the principal cause of destabilisation across the Middle East and beyond, and today in Africa.

    Like Revolutionary Communism, it operates in many different arenas and dimensions; and like it, its defeat will come ultimately through confronting both the violence and the ideology with a combination of hard and soft power.”

    And yet, knowing this he imported millions who support this cult.

    Why were the IRA able to bomb London in the 1960s? Because there were thousands of peaceful Irish living there, the vast majority providing passive, unwilling cover, a few active cover and very, very few who were prepared to report their concerns. (My kindest of Irish landladies, said after seeing the carnage of horses by IRA bombs, “Perhaps they had their reasons?”).

    “its defeat will come ultimately through confronting both the violence and the ideology with a combination of hard and soft power”

    They could make a start by putting Mo under the same microscope as Churchill etc.


    • vlad says:

      Related to the above post, a survey of youngsters in an American college found their main concern was to avoid stigmatising the perpetrators of 9/11, or placing blame, and above all not mentioning their connection to islam in case it leads to islamophobia.

      The brainwashing is complete. We are at war but we’re not supposed to say who the enemy are, or even admit we’re at war.

      Those kids are emblematic of the West’s loss of the will to live. They are as imbecilic as their ‘leader’.
      Frankly, if the next hijacked plane smashes into their pampered little college, they’ll have deserved it.
      It might be the only thing that wakes people up.
      But I doubt it would, even then.


      • MarkyMark says:

        How do we start to decolonize science? @0:10

        “Through the black magic, witchcraft you are able to send a lightning bolt to strike someone, Can you explain that scientifically … ” @0:50 – one of the speakers
        “It’s not true” – audience member
        “I need to address you directly (audience member who says witchcraft does not work). When we started this we agreed on certain house rules. By you doing that (arguing) you are disrespecting that sacredness of this space. I would like you please first to apologise …” – another speaker


      • Zelazek says:


        I agree with every word you’ve said. (I usually do.)

        One thing I would add is that every strong, powerful people, nation or empire in history has been chauvinistic. That is, they have believed themselves to be superior to others, that the rest of the world would benefit from adopting their superior values, beliefs and political systems. The Romans believed they were superior to barbarians, the British at the height of the empire felt they were civilising the world, the Americans believed they were the shining light of liberty for the world.

        When you begin to doubt your superiority, when you start believing barbarians and their barbarian ways are just as good or even better than your own, you are finished as a civilisation.


        • Banania says:

          “…the British at the height of the empire felt they were civilising the world…”
          And so we were! But you more or less said that in your final sentence.


  29. taffman says:

    “England vaccine passport plans ditched, Sajid Javid says”

    We are living under a “push me pull you” government . Are we going to be stuck with this cabal for another two years ?


    • MarkyMark says:

      China’s social credit system has been compared to Black Mirror, Big Brother and every other dystopian future sci-fi writers can think up. The reality is more complicated — and in some ways, worse.

      The idea for social credit came about back in 2007, with projects announced by the government as an opt-in system in 2014. But there’s a difference between the official government system and private, corporate versions, though the latter’s scoring system that includes shopping habits and friendships is often conflated with the former.



      • G says:


        We all ought to learn more about the Chinese system. It may help to understand how the Governments (both UK & US) will work toward implementation/imposition of a similar system. No doubt soon to be unveiled.


        • MarkyMark says:

          Good book 419fM+ivqWL._SX325_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

          During the Covid-19 pandemic, it took China ten days to build a 1,000-bed hospital. Beijing took action, Western democracies dithered. That’s the story they tell in China, and few would disagree.
          Few would dare. At Tiananmen Square, tanks and bullets put an end to disagreement. A generation later, powerful new technologies watch and control – ‘harmonise’ – the masses. In shiny new ‘Smart Cities’, armies of algorithms and cameras mine data from every human action. Run a red light, and the Party will know. Joke about how President Xi looks like a dumpling, and you might end up in jail. Ask awkward questions about the virus or the ‘re-education camps’ in Xinjiang, and you could simply disappear.
          And the Party’s plans go beyond China. On every continent, governments are snapping up Beijing’s ‘Operating System for Dictators’, while Western writers, publishers, even major brands and sports stars are forced to apologise for speaking out about Hong Kong, Tibet or the Muslim Uighurs.
          In his eye-opening bestseller, Kai Strittmatter asks some long-overdue questions. What does China want? And can we stop China from taking it?


        • Garry Lavin says:

          China is the Beta version…..


    • G says:


      Simply keeping the pressure on the public to keep them unnerved.


  30. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Made my day 🙂


  31. MarkyMark says:

    What happens if you’re blacklisted?
    Liu Hu is a journalist in China, writing about censorship and government corruption. Because of his work, Liu has been arrested and fined — and blacklisted. Liu found he was named on a List of Dishonest Persons Subject to Enforcement by the Supreme People’s Court as “not qualified” to buy a plane ticket, and banned from travelling some train lines, buying property, or taking out a loan.

    “There was no file, no police warrant, no official advance notification. They just cut me off from the things I was once entitled to,” he told The Globe and Mail. “What’s really scary is there’s nothing you can do about it. You can report to no one. You are stuck in the middle of nowhere.”


    In April 2018, the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) sent letters to international airlines demanding they show Taiwan as part of China, saying the government would “make a record of your company’s serious dishonesty and take disciplinary actions” for any that didn’t comply; they all eventually did.


  32. MarkyMark says:

    Our future leaders ….

    How do we start to decolonize science? @0:10

    “Through the black magic, witchcraft you are able to send a lightning bolt to strike someone, Can you explain that scientifically … ” @0:50 – one of the speakers
    “It’s not true” – audience member
    “I need to address you directly (audience member who says witchcraft does not work). When we started this we agreed on certain house rules. By you doing that (arguing) you are disrespecting that sacredness of this space. I would like you please first to apologise …” – another speaker


  33. MarkyMark says:

    So here we are, twenty years later. Afghanistan has reverted to what it was in 2001, except with much better roads, airfields, telecommunications, and surveillance equipment. We just handed the country over to the mujahideen we overthrew back then, lavishing upon them such quantities of state-of-the-art munitions and equipment that they will be the most powerful jihad army ever assembled, courtesy of the United States of America.



  34. StewGreen says:

    Channel body : “no suspicious circumstances and no evidence to suggest a link to migrant crossings.”

    In BBCland #WhiteLivesDontMatter … https://twitter.com/bbcsoutheast/status/1437007848823738369


  35. Docmarooned says:

    This afternoon BBC schedule proclaims Live Tennis! at 13:45. Christ it is last nights highlights of the US Open final. Guess they are still hurting at missing out really showing it live.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I hope the highlights have that ‘ amazon prime ‘ logo in the corner .

      It should be replaced with ‘ BBC subscription ‘ …. Might have made a few BBC types unhappy – which is nice .


  36. MarkyMark says:

    Woah! So not diverse because there are no white people –

    “Chineke – the UK’s only black and ethnically diverse orchestra – celebrated diversity in composers as well as performers, playing pieces by Samuel Coleridge-Taylor, Fela Sowande and Florence Price.”


    • G says:

      I’ve watched The Proms for decades maybe six. Three or four years ago, I lost interest as the Woke element crept in and destroyed any pleasure. Now, without a tv licence for over four years or so I have reduced input from the Black Broadcasting Corp. to the very minimum. I Feel better for it.


  37. MarkyMark says:

    Taxes go up ….

    Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Manager (Patient Service)

    The Newcastle upon Tyne Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
    Newcastle upon Tyne
    Apply on NHS Jobs
    £38,890–£44,503 a year

    Equality, Diversity & Inclusion Lead – Band

    Gloucestershire Health and Care NHS Foundation Trust
    Apply on NHS Jobs
    £47,126–£53,219 a year


  38. MarkyMark says:

    Trudeau (I’m a feminist) hails “ (Muslim) sisters upstairs” at sex-segregated mosque


  39. vlad says:

    Idiot Trudeau could lose the upcoming election. Good.
    In the immortal words of that great philosopher (and the real President): “Everything woke turns to sh*t”

    If you don’t know what i’m referring to, it’s probably because the BBC and other msm suppressed it.

    Note the roar of approval from the huge crowd.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Vlad – don’t forget – he ll be getting help from Biden s people to fix the election count ….

      … I understand that the false president was silent during his 9/11 visits to site – language can be affected by dementia – perhaps it is speeding up ….he got boo d as well – even on such a sacred day ( to the yanks )


  40. StewGreen says:

    2:58pm after this weeks episode of Green Originals “In the next part of our series honouring Green Thinkers : Margaret Thatcher is the subject”
    – Trailer for Peter Curran electric car prog.

    3:22pm In the drama, about Polish prosecutor in 2013, The BBC WordService headlines are a character
    “A rainbow coloured banner has been set blaze among violent clashes in Warsaw (1918 Independence Day)
    authorities have attributed the act to rightwing and nationalist groups
    as they protest at what they see as increasing liberalisation and summission to the EU
    … 60& of Polish families have at least one woman who is a victim of violence”

    .. The drama seems to hint that the Americans are the baddies.

    Green item
    Green item
    Green item
    Anti-right item

    Next item pro-black, anti-white
    Book show – Colson Whitehead black American writer. His new novel Harlem Shuffle.
    Recurring themes emerge racial injustice, corruption of power but this time his protagonist is an active agent.
    The writer talks about his reluctance to be a spokesman for black America”


  41. Thoughtful says:

    I’ve just watched the Rees Mogg interview with Nigel Farage and am astonished at how dangerously out of touch with reality Rees Mogg actually is.

    Despite Pakistan sheltering the Taleban and allegecly assisting them in their retaking of Afghanistan, and given their cordial co-operative military relations with Russia and China, the deluded Mogg honestly believes Pakistan is a country friendly towards the UK.

    How on Earth he has reached this conclusion is beyond me when all the evidence is clearly available and that the only friendly relations Pakistan has with the UK comes with its ex pats bleeding the country dry.

    He is also completely muddled on the US situation in Afghanistan and seems at a loss to explain what went wrong and why, and appears to be under the impression that one day Joe Biden woke up, had a bright idea to withdraw from Afghanistan and gave the order preciptately.

    He appears completly ignorant of US departments being completely out of control with senior people believing themselves no longer answerable to the elected officials who should be the oversight.
    He appears to be completely surprised that no preparations were made by US Army, or British either.

    If this is one of the better Tory MPs then no wonder the party is in the mess it appears to be in.


  42. Sluff says:

    Reported by the BBC.
    Boris has pledged to pour in £billions to reduce the record waiting times for ill people to have treatment with our NHS heroes.

    Not reported by the BBC.
    I am one of those waiting and yet amazingly recently received a letter from the NHS.
    The first thing to note is that they send you a hard copy letter which includes a link to an embedded electronic form! They also give the very complicated web address as a URL. Which you have to type in by hand! Not exactly customer-friendly. Has anyone told the NHS how the internet actually works?
    But I digress.
    I quote from the letter
    ‘Here are a few points to consider and let us know when calling to book your appointment’………………..

    ‘Interpreter’ – ‘If you require an interpreter to help with translation, please let us know so that we can allow enough time for your assessment’.

    I bet the average member of the public didn’t expect that that their hard earned and now hard-taxed income would be being spent on that, or that it was in part a cause for the current delays – and yet there it is in black and white.

    Thus the true nature and cost of the International Health Service is revealed…….but never, ever, mentioned.


    • MarkyMark says:

      The NHS in England spends £59,000 a day on translating documents and providing interpreters, according to a health think tank. A Freedom of Information request by 2020 Health showed the total bill topped £23m last year – an increase of 17% since 2007, it said.6 Feb 2012


      • Sluff says:

        Thanks for that.
        But then there is the opportunity cost of the ‘extra time’ needed during the appointment or consultation –
        ‘What seems to be the trouble’?
        ….converted into a language
        Answered in a language.
        And converted into English, with chinese whispers loss of meaning
        in the process. And so it goes on. And the consultant sits there, and waits for the reply.

        I should think in our more vibrant communities this could be a sizeable part of the clinic hours.


    • Sluff says:

      Post script.
      It gets worse.
      My letter gave me seven days to reply to it from the date on the letter.
      It was sent SECOND class and arrived on a Saturday. The booking office is closed until Monday.
      So the seven days becomes……errr……….24 hours.
      Another fine example of NHS customer service. Not!

      Utterly useless. Can’t even do the simplest of things in a customer-friendly manner. Paid for by us, needless to say.


  43. MarkyMark says:

    BIDEN TO SAVE ALL WOMEN FROM THE TALIBAN .. never mind … gender toilets to open ala Obama …. walls to bring down ….

    Afghan universities will be segregated by gender, and a new Islamic dress code will be introduced, the Taliban said on Sunday.

    Higher Education Minister Abdul Baqi Haqqani indicated women would be allowed to study, but not alongside men.

    He also announced a review of subjects taught.


    He told reporters that the Taliban wanted to “create a reasonable and Islamic curriculum that is in line with our Islamic, national and historical values and, on the other hand, be able to compete with other countries”.

    The announcement comes after a demonstration by women supportive of the Taliban’s gender policies at Shaheed Rabbani Education University in Kabul yesterday.


  44. MarkyMark says:

    Not really chilling as tensions between the countries were on OK terms – no war declared – FAKE BBC NEWS….

    “A fuzzy newspaper image may be a record of the only time a union jack and a Nazi swastika flew together in Britain, experts have said.

    The recently discovered photograph was taken during a German boxing team’s visit to Nottingham in October 1936.

    Despite tension rising between the countries, visits between groups and societies were common.

    Local historian Tom Andrews said: “It’s quite chilling to see the two flags side by side.””



  45. MarkyMark says:

    It just wants equality … HA HA HA HA ….

    SMR has been involved in several controversies. In 2006 Mahmoud Aldebe, one of the Board members of SMR, sent letters to each of the major political parties in Sweden demanding special legislation for Muslims in Sweden, including the right to specific Islamic holidays, special public financing for the building of Mosques, that all divorces between Muslim couples be approved by an Imam, and that Imams should be allowed to teach Islam to children of Muslim parents in public schools. The request was condemned by all political parties and the government and the Swedish Liberal Party requested that an investigation be started by the Office of the Exchequer into the use of public funding of SMR. A spokesperson of the Board of SMR subsequently stated that while it supported some of the contents of the letter it had not discussed other parts, such as special legislation for Muslims and did not think that the letter had been a good idea to communicate them in a list of demands.[3]

    Although the Board of SMR did not condemn Aldebe the letter has caused conflict within the organization.[4]

    SMR has also been accused of being closely allied to the Swedish Social Democrat Party (see Swedish Association of Christian Social Democrats). Which has been criticised both inside and outside the party.[1]

    See also
    Islam in Sweden


  46. MarkyMark says:

    Islamic Virtue Party



    “[It] is a comprehensive project of Western civilizing procedures aimed at changing ways of thinking and the present culture, in Iraq in particular and in the whole Middle East in general.”
    It needs to be unmasked and resisted, but in a planned and scientific manner. Both violent and non-violent resistance are important.


    “[The] terrorism that broke out in Iraqi society was not a product of current confessional or intellectual preconditions in Iraq. It is rather a phenomenon that grew up outside Iraq and crept into Iraq within the range of regional and international interests. […] The Shari’a forbids terrorism.”


  47. BRISSLES says:

    Can we call SKY news BBC Mk 2 ?

    Just watched open mouthed as Alex Crawford (the ‘only’ female Western reporter ) is showing the viewer around the Bagram American base. Almost weeping she takes the camera around the detention centre where the Yanks have just walked out and left it, (stupidly) with photos/fingerprints/orange uniforms/cable ties – for handcuffs, all in evidence. Ms Crawford’s tone indicated how awful it was that the poor prisoners had little daylight, were cramped 30 to a cage, then showed the Taliban seeing it for the first time – and they were almost in ‘tears’ to see how their fellow fighters were treated.

    God on a bike ! these were potential terrorists who were beheading westerners without a thought, not a bloody Sunday school, yet the nasty Americans incarcerated these human beings without trial. If this woman was hoping to garner sympathy, I doubt if she succeeded.


  48. MarkyMark says:

    Party politics has never interested me. What interests me is working together to find sustainable solutions. The long-term effects of a global pandemic will not be resolved with short-term relief packages. So it’s time for us all to unite with the passion we saw during the Euros and make sure every child in this country is given a fair chance, and that child hunger is eradicated. No child should be starting 20 yards behind any other just because of the community they live in. It’s time to level up.


    Marcus Rashford earns £180,000 per week, £9,360,000 per year playing for Manchester United F.C. as a AM (L), ST (C). Marcus Rashford’s net worth is £23,138,960. Marcus Rashford is 22 years old and was born in England. His current contract expires June 30, 2023. LEVEL UP

    Marcus Rashford earns £180,000 per week LEVEL UP

    MARCUS 80K / 1.79 = 100,558 Meals
    68 Familes can be feed on Marcus Rashfords wages for a week for a WHOLE YEAR (4 chicken meals a day for a family of four)


  49. MarkyMark says:

    Afghan 2021 and Biden liberates its women …

    UK 2018 Boris Johnson as Foreign Minister …
    “The UK’s Foreign Office offered staff free head scarves to learn why Muslim women chose to wear them during an event to mark World Hijab Day, according to reports.”



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