419 Responses to Weekend Thread 16 October 2021

  1. Guest Who says:

    Sadly, words soon there will be plenty.

    I doubt many will serve much value.

    Especially from those with keen appreciations of what is news, and what is not.

    Interesting fellow. Not aware of him before.

    Seems to be handling the predictable commenters well in the first few I read.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Project Fear!

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    • Deborah says:

      Lance Forman – was briefly an MEP for the Brexit Party in the short period before the UKs withdrawal.

      He runs Foreman and Field – the very very best smoked salmon and may I also recommend their cheesecake?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to most recent posts on previous thread
      page 3 started 6pm on Thursday

      page 2 started 6pm on Wednesday

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  2. Sick of it all says:

    I wonder what Rayner has to say for herself, since it’s inevitable her persistent hate-filled grandstanding about the Tories would draw some lunatic off the grass.

    She best have some kind words at the ready. After all, silence is violence.

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    • Guest Who says:

      She will be quietly reassigned by both fellow Kneeler and bbc bookers.

      They are none of them too smart, but are usually aware of when the wind is blowing over something rotten even they can’t manage away.

      As yet AFAIK the perp and motivations still at ‘man and knife’ level, so speculation fruitless.

      I will say post other such tragic events the default, or not, to ‘mental issues’ by those invested in terminology over reality is a sorry exercise in futility.

      Taking an innocent life with planned malice aforethought, be it faith or other ideological reasons in nature, is not a sign of sanity.

      What is new is the confidence in reactions from certain predictable quarters, which can reassure anything from legal absolution or at the very least, limited incarceration or post mortem pr and/or glory.

      That can, and has been manipulated by the cynical to push the simple of mind past reason.

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  3. Doublethinker says:

    If the murderer of David Amess turns out to have been influenced by Rayner’s Tory Scum comments shouldn’t she charged with incitement or at the very least hate speech? Of course she won’t be and the globalist / leftist MSM will dutifully avoid reporting such a story let alone keeping it front and centre of the news for days on end. How Will the Tories in Parliament react ? Lot of eulogies for Amess but nothing against the scum cow.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The identity of the killer of Sir David Amess will be known soon . We will be witness to the MSM ritual of labelling . One national newspaper I’d reporting that counter terrorist plod are ‘monitoring ‘ ….
      Dreadful .

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      • Guest Who says:

        Drip drip drip…

        Male….

        25…

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Guest Who – I still think it is early for the MSM to speculate on motive and identity . I’m guessing Sir David Amess devout Catholicism won’t feature much in the BBC world .

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          • Guest Who says:

            Nor should they rush until facts are known.

            However, it has been noted MSM reactions can vary, depending..

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            • NCBBC says:

              The MSM will now double down in showing how successful , intelligent and highly educated Aricans (by implication Somalis are). Too, Islam + mental issues and Islam as RoP will be on once more..

              That’s how multicultism works – the more criminal, workshy, educationally failed, benefit dependent a group or ethnic is, the more it will be portrayed in the MSM as the opposite.

              We see this in continuing adverts in Britain. They show a preponderance of successful Back women and men. Its evidence that reality is contradictory to what is being shown on TV. Too its evidence that the authorities recognise that their Open Borders policy is a dismal failure that will lead to the fall of Europe. Its also patronising to Blacks to show what they know they aren’t.

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      • NCBBC says:

        It seems that the perp is a Somali. Muslim most likely. His family repays Britain by murdering a popular Christian MP.

        East Africans view Somalis with contempt- as thieves, work shy and highway robbers.

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    • Third Duke says:

      To my regular contributors and allies, I applogise for my scant contributions of late. Such dire news as this does lead me to despair and a reluctance to vent my considerable dismay at much MSM output, particularly Al Beeb.
      Rayner absolutely must resign, immediately, and never darken UK politics ever again.
      Nothing she can say or do must ever detach her comments from the horror of today.
      Sir David really comes across as a thoroughly decent human being; polar opposites to the fragrant Ms Rayner.
      My deepest respect to him and his family.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Well it turns out that the murderer of David Amess wasn’t inspired by the Scum Queen Rayner but by someone even more dangerous , our long time adversary Old Mo. Well it had to be one or the other.
      Meantime thousands of like minded medievalists flood into our country every week and the dumbo liberals and the BBC are worried about a backlash from poor old whitey . No need to worry about a backlash from old whitey, the BBC have over the past forty years effectively put their critical faculties into a state of deep sleep. Wake up you fools!!!

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      • NCBBC says:

        There is no doubt that Open Borders and multicultism has failed. It is now causing distress to all and sundry. The lying adverts on TV are testament to that failure. Yet the deliberate policy of Open Borders continues.

        The question has to be asked. Our politicians are not dumb. On the contrary, they are highly intelligent and educated. Mostly they hail from middle or upper middle class backgrounds.

        Assuming therefore that they know what they are doing, What is it and why?

        Our future and the world’s rest on that.

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  4. Guest Who says:

    Seems the bbc did get the Madge press release and ran with it anyway, and ran…

    This move by those who should know better than leaving pr in the hands of ideological kindergarteners is bizarre.

    It’s when things start to unravel.

    Oh, and the BBC… as ever..

    So. Sodding. What?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      At Buckingham Palace, heating and hot water is produced by the Combined Heat and Power plant and boilers, with flat plate heat exchangers increasing the efficiency of heat transfer. … These units convert natural gas into electricity, with the heat produced by this process being used to provide heating and hot water.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Queen wants someone to bring down her £1,100,000 heating bill
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      Saturday 14 Jul 2018 11:25 am

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    • NCBBC says:

      The monarch appears to criticise people who “talk” but “don’t do”, ahead of the COP26 summit.

      I view the HM Queen’s oblique response is similar to what her forbear King Canute said in a similar situation .

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    • NCBBC says:

      Canute set his throne by the sea shore and commanded the incoming tide to halt and not wet his feet and robes. Yet “continuing to rise as usual [the tide] dashed over his feet and legs without respect to his royal person.

      Then the king leapt backwards, saying: ‘Let all men know how empty and worthless is the power of kings, for there is none worthy of the name, but He whom heaven, earth, and sea obey by eternal laws.'” He then hung his gold crown on a crucifix, and never wore it again “to the honour of God the almighty King”.[2]

      So how is it that King Obama, Pelosi etal build their houses at the sea while telling us to pay up for rising seas.

      I think our HM Queen Elizabeth is pulling the legs of her ministers in the same manner King Canute did.

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  5. Guest Who says:

    https://fullfact.org/online/COP26-Tesla-cars/?

    This appeared on a social media timeline.

    #CCBGB

    Not even Springster could be this du…

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    • StewGreen says:

      Fullfact “Any generators required for the charging of the electric vehicles will, as has been reported by the Scotsman, *run on recycled cooking oil* ”

      @MZ asked if Any words missing there FF ?
      Actually the Scotsman article they quote says
      “COULD BE powered up by vegetable oil-fed generators”

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      • Guest Who says:

        Who fact checks the fact checkers’ fact checkers?

        Without the word ‘could’ almost any bbc science, engineering or environment post would not exist.

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    • StewGreen says:

      FullFact claim in the tweet : “We’ve *debunked* a ..rumour ”

      FullFact claim in the actual article : “we’ve rated this claim as *partly* false”

      BTW when people say some cars will be charged by diesel generators
      that is kind of true.
      as most people count bio-diesel as a kind of diesel
      and they will emit CO2, more than pure diesel would.

      It would also be more efficient to cut out the generator stage entirely and put biodiesel into existing normal diesel cars.

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      • StewGreen says:

        I like the way the Fullfact article dated 12th October
        quotes a Reuter’s article dated the 14th
        How’s that work ?

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      • NCBBC says:

        This is a precise take down off the BBC by Dr John Campbell

        Dr Campbell is full of praise of the BBC. No irony whatever. None. Terrific.

        The BBC is totally committed to vaccinations, as that allows control of “the people”

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      • NCBBC says:

        Who are the debunkers? BBC? Facebook?

        Who checks the “debunkers”. Facebook?BBC?

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  6. Guest Who says:

    Bugga; ‘Kish & Nish’ could have saved the BBC for… ‘the young’.

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  7. Guest Who says:

    American asks question.

    Me either.

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    • StewGreen says:

      First meaning of surgery = venue where doctors routinely perform surgery
      So it is also the place where you go to so the doctor can listen to your medical problems.

      Adopted meaning : any venue where an expert is routinely on hand to listen to your problems.
      so that covers a psychiatrist, counsellor, an MP etc.

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      • moggie63 says:

        Ironically, my recent experience is that GP’s are routinely on the phone for appointments, not on hand. Only last week my wife was sent to hospital for an x-ray because her ankle hurts.

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  8. Eddy Booth says:

    Despite all this social media etc, we still have to wait for the MSM to decide to tell us the details..( the Sir David stabbing)
    Guess the google algorithm buries things miles deep

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  9. BRISSLES says:

    Aside from doctor/veterinary/dental ‘surgeries’ – which can also be called clinics, I don’t see what the fuss is in calling the MP’s meeting a surgery. Clearly Matthew Ingram has so much time on his hands he has to find something to Twatter about !

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    • Guest Who says:

      I had a quick look on Google and that is what the bbc bloke did. And copied what I saw first.

      Still elusive and presumably goes back to when MPs first started representation of constituents.

      Given the medical analogy it may refer to one on one in camera exchange on matters of a private nature.

      That said, the last time I was in one it was a free for all in a library with their agent and a gofer present.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Brissles Mathew Ingram replied
      “Ah, clinic is a good comparison — thanks”

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  10. MarkyMark says:

    Have the BBC put this family at risk?

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58830736

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  11. G.W.F. says:

    The media know the age of the man arrested for the killing of Sir David, but do not appear to have any more information.
    Bits will emerge gradually.
    A witness describes a man of African appearance being led away – BBC news 6pm

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  12. Halifax says:

    Apparently it’s a Somalian.

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  13. Halifax says:

    So that’s a Albanian and a Somalian charged with high profile murders in the last 2 weeks. Let’s see how long the BBC try to deny the truth.
    Its funny that a bad white policeman can lead to all white men being a menace to women, but 2 alleged immigrant murderers doesn’t raise any questions.

    Thoughts are with both victims nearest and dearest.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      Good point, Halifax.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Halifax
      Here are the latest MSM news headlines. BONG! Capitalism bad, Socialism good. BONG! White skin bad, Black skin good. BONG! Sir Keir Starmer says “Protect the workers, the disabled and the immigrant “, BONG! Boris Johnson says “Bugger the workers, the disabled and the immigrant” blah blah blah blah —–

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  14. Sluff says:

    St Jo of Cox was murdered, let us not forget that, murdered.
    And it was assigned to a Far Right Extremist, remember?
    Lots of labelling of Far Right Extremism.

    Now David Amess has been murdered. And there is a report that the perpetrator was of African appearance.
    Well it’s early to draw conclusions. But what we do know is that Amess is a Tory, and as on the 6 pm news Laura Doomsberg is going down the ‘being an MP is getting more dangerous’ route and heading towards ‘why are MPs not protected more’

    It’s surely only a matter of time before the BBC gets to the ‘‘Tory government fails to protect MPs’ line.

    And not a Far Left extremist in sight. Only ‘a man’.

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  15. SpinningReith says:

    Murder of Sir David Amess.
    A thoroughly decent chap by all accounts.
    A Somalian national is in custody.
    I wonder he was still wearing his lifejacket?
    Don’t worry, Priti is on the case; as we speak she’s settling his hotel bill!

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    • Sluff says:

      If Amess has been murdered by a Somali refugee/ asylum seeker/ economic chancer/Muslim get ready for the Left and BBC to circle the wagons faster than you can say ‘housing benefit’. I wouldn’t put it past them to put it down to poor housing for ‘refugees’ or some such awful leftist drivel. Get ready for it. ‘We are all to blame’.

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    • tarien says:

      And what will the authorities do to this man’s killer, when found? Of course he/she should be executed as would happen to them in the country of their origin-No they will be imprisoned, with heat and light and three neals a day all at the expense of the British Tax payer-and so it goes on….

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  16. Fedup2 says:

    We can go through the ritual on this site – even if the victim in a decent MP .

    Will the killer be named ?

    Will he be put under the Mental Health act so that we never find out the Truth?

    Was this aterrorist attack ?

    Was the killer an illegal ?

    Is it a campaign to assassinate politicians ?

    We all know the theme – but even the BBC wont be able to shuffle this tragedy off to ‘local news ‘ ….

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed,
      TOADY Watch #1 Saturday – the BBC were quick to answer just one of your questions this morning

      Or not as the case may be. Scumbag BBC will make no reference to Angela Rayner’s speech to the Labour Party Conference. Instead they were at pains to point out repeatedly, both in the news and in the programme that the murderer of Sir David Amess was a Briton …. . . . . . .

      . . . . . . ……. of Somali origin.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2
        Parliament comes back Monday . One of those big “occasions “ politicians and journos love … a series of wholesome eulogies ….
        …….but will anyone – anyone – question how the actual and potential Islamic terrorists are to be dealt with . ?

        I will answer my own question . No . No one will speak out . Instead there will be ‘questions to be asked ‘ about what the police knew and whether this character should have be stopped under the ‘prevent ‘ rubbish ….

        I might watch it on the parliament channel – or maybe not ….

        BBC will be desperate to find another distraction ….

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  17. Sluff says:

    Meanwhile, another fine example of the benefits of multiculturalism presents itself

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-58929107

    ‘Mohammed Khubaib jailed over kidnapped teen ransom demand’

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  18. Demon says:

    I fully expect the BBC, Sky and all the other television companies and newspaper organisations to give Sir David the Jo Cox treatment. I personally think he was a decent human being, from what I’ve seen on television, and I didn’t have that opinion of Cox (although I was as appalled as everyone as to what happened to her) .

    If you haven’t guessed it my first line was an attempt at irony. I know the MSM will, at best, afford his memory an equal treatment of what they perceive as good and bad, unlike with St Jo of Cox who was the most perfect embodiment of womanhood since the Virgin Mary apparently. Lastly on the political side, I do hope the Conservatives do to Labour, over this terrible murder, what Labour did to them over Cox and blame all aggressive and nasty comments directed at the Conservatives, e.g. what Rayner said, and demand them to apologise and/or resign.

    I do want to express my sadness at the pointless and callous murder of a decent man and good MP. My heart goes out to his family and friends at this sad time.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      D, I remember Jo Cox in her one and only Any Questions appearance and she appeared to be a very sound and reasonable MP. Almost too good for the Labour Party.

      Inevitably, an attack like this brings back the memory of the Cox killing and also that of Anthony Berry MP, Airey Neave MP and the maiming of Lady Tebbitt. It is an attack on the British way of life and our democracy. I wonder if certain MPs and broadcasters – namely the BBC – and newspapers will tone down their rhetoric now?

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      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        Remember also Ian Gow, MP for Eastbourne, killed by the IRA in 1990; and Roberta Wakeham (wife of John) killed by the IRA in the Brighton hotel bombing.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Am obliged to my right honourable friend for the reminders. I had forgotten that there were two fatalities in the IRA Brighton Hotel bomb blast and also the killing of Ian Gow. That’s an awful death toll for Members of Parliament in my lifetime.

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  19. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – what are we really short of here in the UK?

    It is not a shortage of scare stories and that’s for sure. The BBC are happy to dish up plenty. I note that comments here were closed after 4,000 + in just four hours!
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58721085

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  20. vlad says:

    It’s starting to emerge that the suspect in the murder of Sir David Amess was a Somali.

    The police are going through his mobile looking for links to terrorism.

    Whether or not they find explicit links, they might want to search his home for a quran. Innumerable passages in the quran (as well as the hadith and sila) enjoin adherents to “slay the idolaters wherever you find them.”

    Who needs a terrorist manual when your good book tells you all you need to know?

    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

    In the last 30 days, there were 138 Islamic attacks in 22 countries, in which 719 people were killed and 482 injured.

    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I wonder if news channels abroad are giving out more info than our own on this murder. If it is a Somalian then that will be the big headline in most other countries.

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      • vlad says:

        I wouldn’t bet on it. Most foreign msm are as PC as ours. In some countries its virtually illegal to mention some details of criminals such as ethnicity and religion.

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  21. Kaiser says:

    with the bbc running interviews with Mp’s

    certain phrases caught my attention

    “a man 25”

    “we mustn’t jump to knee jerk reactions”

    I didnt actually need this from the independant

    “Statement from Essex Police: Counter-terror officers leading investigation
    Counter-terror officers are leading the investigation into Sir David Amess’ death, Ben Julian Harrington, chief constable of Essex Police, has said.

    He said it was not yet certain whether the killing was an act of terror. Detectives are keeping an open mind, he told a press conference.

    However, The Independent understands that the suspect is of Somali origin, and the murder is being treated at this point as a probable Islamist terror attack.

    A 25-year-old man was arrested “immediately” after police arrived at the church where Sir David was stabbed, Mr Harrington added.”

    I also didnt need the platitudes about increasing security for MP’s

    Stabbing expected to spark renewed debate over MPs’ security

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Kaiser – sadly when i hear of such event on a Friday – the first thing I wonder is what mosque did the killer go to ?

      Let’s all be wrong and it’s a ‘local man ‘ upset about a parking ticket …..

      …. But if this character turns out to have arrived via a dinghy from France … maybe that will concentrate a few minds …

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    • theisland says:

      The elite may now get greater security after Priti’s ‘urgent review’, but the assisted influx of savages and terrorists will continue as planned.

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      • Sluff says:

        Will that ‘greater security’ be the same ‘greater security’ as we see every day on the daily young male economic chancer channel crossings?
        If I was an MP I might suddenly get more interested in the government’s track record on ‘greater security’.

        Who knows, a few pennies might even drop.

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  22. vlad says:

    Talking of islamic murderers, anyone remember the Norwegian bow-and-arrow attack a few days ago?

    Well, surprise surprise, our Robin Hood was a convert to… Islam!

    And, surprise surprise, the BBC aren’t very interested in that minor detail. The headline reads: “Kongsberg attack: Norway probes bow and arrow suspect’s sanity”

    The sub-headline reads: The man suspected of killing five people with a bow and arrows in Norway is being kept in a secure psychiatric institution for mental health checks.

    Only later do they casually mention that the killer was a convert to Islam.

    That’s not the important thing, you see, the important thing is that he was bonkers.

    Some would say, anyone who converts to islam must be bonkers.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58924466

    2Q==

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  23. StewGreen says:

    When your mate gets brutally murdered
    do you say he’s just “passed away” ?

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    • vlad says:

      You do when the suspect is a co-religionist.
      Others might say ‘savagely murdered’.

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    • Jeff says:

      “Passed away.” What a pathetically disingenuous and utterly feeble response.

      He didn’t just pass away, he was brutally attacked and stabbed to death.

      Did Jo Cox just “pass away”?

      No, she was brutally murdered by a “right wing extremist”.

      Let’s see how our media and political establishment decide how to cover this one.

      I’m guessing they won’t be much better…

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      • vlad says:

        You don’t understand: when it’s the Religion of Peace killing you, you pass away peacefully. The clue’s in the name.
        Simples.

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    • Garry Lavin says:

      ‘Passed away’?! Dear God.

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    • Banania says:

      “Passed away”! Is he being sarcastic? (He didn’t “lose” his life either.)

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  24. Lefty Wright says:


    Maybe some of you folks on here have seen this video before or even posted it on this website.
    However, I have only just discovered it and as it chimes with my own opinions I thought it might tickle a few fancy’s here. Cheers.

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  25. StewGreen says:

    Tonight’s Question of Sport Panels

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    Quek was born Singaporean father, Albert Quek.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Those names (specially the top one) just conjure up letters in Countdown. I’ll have a Consonant, Vowel, Consonant, Consonant, as I sit here trying to make a word from them.

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    • TrickCyclist says:

      By my reckoning, the panel at the top includes two ‘Strictly’ contestants, the one at the bottom one ‘I’m a Celebrity’ and one ‘Dancing on Ice.’
      Television will eat itself.

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  26. Thoughtful says:

    sickening how the media describes David Amess as ‘RightWing’ and in the same piece describes the killer of Jo Cox as a Far Right Terrorist when there is zero evidence to support that slur other than a National Front member attempting to blame it on rival gang Britain First and excldingthe fact the man was mentally ill.

    Wouldn’t surprise me to find one of the far Left intrinsically full of rage hate and violence did this or an eco loon to co-incide with the conference, or even one of the usual suspects.

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  27. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Just watched a film called ‘Dance with a stranger’ about Ruth Ellis, the last woman to be hanged in England.
    It was made in 1989.
    Something I noticed was that every person in the quite large cast was an indigenous Brit, an Anglo Saxon.
    How far (and quickly) have we fallen with the pc, woke and filled with any others worth virtue signalling about casts that we have to put up with now just over 30 years later.

    The film itself wasn’t anything great but the presentation was at least believable, unlike everything we get now.

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  28. StewGreen says:

    Wonder why the BBC pulled 2 BBC1 progs tonight ?
    “The BBC have pulled tonight’s Have I Got News For You following today’s shocking events.
    The show will be broadcast early next week.

    Instead at 9pm we get : Would I Lie to You? *

    Likewise 9:30pm Greg Davies is cancelled
    and replaced by more Lee Mack Not Going Out

    * Joining regular team captains David Mitchell and *Lee Mack* are snooker veteran Steve Davis, actor Craig Parkinson, comedian Sara Pascoe and Strictly co-host Claudia Winkleman.

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    • vlad says:

      Would I Lie to You? Is that the new name for BBC News?
      In which case the answer is Yes.

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  29. vlad says:

    If the David Amess killer turns out to be a Muslim and an immigrant, expect a huge amount of deflection, diversion, obscuration, obfuscation and excuse making from the BBC, with other channels not much better.
    Only GB News might cover it with some degree of honesty, though they’re also constrained by fear of being labelled racist, islamophobic etc, and have to tread carefully.

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  30. StewGreen says:

    10;30pm BBC1 Graham Norton show
    – Jodie Whittaker discusses embarking on her final series of Doctor Who.
    – Comedian and writer Lenny Henry plugging his book
    – Billy Connolly plugging his book
    – Actor Eileen Atkins plugging her book
    – Coldplay plugging their current single
    BBC love them cos of their Climate pledges

    #BBCdontDoAdverts

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    • Up2snuff says:

      I wonder how writing books and making records helps with a reduction of CO2? Poor old Adele, Paul McCartney and Dave Grohl didn’t get a look in then? Someone could have screamed ‘House’ or whatever the appropriate Bingo call is today.

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  31. theisland says:

    Over 20,000 in dinghies so far this year.

    Meanwhile

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  32. Stuart the Shrimper says:

    Absolutely gutted tonight to hear the news about my local mp being murdered only a mile away from me.
    Quirky figure but immensely likeable and the ultimate constituent member of parliament.
    He was so proud of his town, and I hope his legacy is that Southend fulfils his hopes of gaining city status.
    Also a man of principle, who didn’t tow the party line, particularly on issues like fox-hunting.
    I’m sorry I am rambling, but I feel quite upset tonight.

    His murderer? May he burn in hell.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Stuart I’ve helped out at the Folk Festival a few times
      and remember going into a church like that, when we were delivering the chairs back.

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  33. StewGreen says:

    Channel 5 : the Intel Chips advert with the black father and daughter
    … segues into David Olusoga trailer “the evils African slavery”

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    • StewGreen says:

      His show begins on Tuesday
      I see like Packham he since 2019 has had the title “Professor”
      having been parachuted straight into a top honourary teaching position at Manchester University.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Many societies throughout history have practised slavery, and Muslim societies were no exception.

        It’s thought that as many people were enslaved in the Eastern slave trade as in the Atlantic slave trade.

        It’s ironic that when the Atlantic slave trade was abolished the Eastern trade expanded, suggesting that for some Africans the abolition of the Atlantic trade didn’t lead to freedom, but merely changed their slave destination.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slavery_1.shtml

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  34. Thoughtful says:

    And now we find out it’s a 25 year old Somali man, and I have to say that this man must have come to Britain on the Tories watch and those former ‘leaders’ have Sir David blood on their hands.
    Now one of their own has been affected there might be some reaction, but Saudi oil money will probably limit that massively especially with Boris’s expensive paramour, and philandering.

    One day when a few more are dead maybe they will realise that uncontrolled migration has a price in lives, and although they don’t care when it’s you & I, they do care when it’s them – to a point, and only so long as it doesn’t compromise their money flow.

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  35. StewGreen says:

    FFS now an E.ON electricity* advert claiming they are saving the world going green etc.

    German owned corp

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  36. Doobster78 says:

    Shocking news today .

    Now , let’s just imagine for one minute that for example Prite Patel had shouted “Labour scum” and failed to apologise and indeed doubled down on it .

    Then, today, it was a labour MP who was stabbed to death .

    The bleeting from the bbc about how Priti incited this would be endless, the labour party would dine out on it for years. 24/7 rolling news until she resigned.

    Now, Angela Rayner DID call the Tories SCUM and very shortly after a Tory MP has been brutally murdered .

    Will the bbc mention it ? NO
    Will Angela apologise? NO

    If it was the other way, would the BBC be all over it like a rash and linking the two ???

    YES !!!! DISGUSTING

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    • Thoughtful says:

      and imagine it was you or I who had been killed and the MPs wouldn’t give a stuff.
      This was a Somali who probably didn’t give a stuff about Angela Rayner or even know what the word ‘scum’ even meant. The Tories playing politics over Islamic murder shows how shallow they really are.
      It’s not Rayner it’s Islam and they aren’t going to staunch the flow of the blood money into their pockets, because of their poverty pay.
      It all follows from the publics reluctance to pay politicians a decent amount for the job they do. You think £82K is a lot, well why aren’t you protesting outside the local town hall over the Chief exec on a minimum of £250K pa and the highest paid over £600K or the NHS trust on over £300K pa ? Or perhaps your local GP paid over £100K seeing patients only by internet and working 3 days a week?
      Taking money from others prepared to pay what we won’t is a legitimate way to go, and if that means the results are things people find they don’t like well tough, open your eyes to reality and pay the tiny amount to make things right.

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  37. Doobster78 says:

    “This was a Somali who probably didn’t give a stuff about Angela Rayner or even know what the word ‘scum’ even meant”

    Correct. No doubt.

    However, my point being , the way of the bbc , t’other way round , they WOULD be linking the rhetoric and subsequent events .

    And so would Kier and his cronies .

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  38. brexiteerkent says:

    BBC news at ten .. ” a man ” until 6 minutes in and then they reluctantly say that the man arrested is ” a British citizen …. understood to be of apparently Somali origin”

    British indeed …

    Will they discuss the relevant issues .. For example the hundreds landing on the beaches daily of whom we know nothing .. Hmmm…

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  39. Halifax says:

    So it’s now 4 hours since we knew it was a Somalian that was arrested, the BBC are now saying he was a British National……no word on background though. Just imagine if it was a faux right winger we would have his school reports by now ……

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  40. StewGreen says:

    Head of largest California union arrested on charges of grand theft, tax fraud http://reut.rs/3j7oJ4W

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  41. Fedup2 says:

    BBC slowly leaking bits about the identity of the killer – danny sandford – through gritted teeth said ‘somalian’ but we havent got to ‘islamic terrorist ‘ yet .

    I guess it will be covered by a ‘known to police ‘ ‘lone wolf’ ‘ mental issues ‘ … type job as usual ….

    — twitter has a copy of a statement put out by the muslim council of britain ( no great) with the usual blah blah blah so they must know the motivation here …

    I suppose the BBC will distract with the usual blurb about an ‘increase in anti muslim incidents ‘ ….

    …. None of which detracts from a family without a father … and a funeral to arrange

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  42. Third Duke says:

    Our beloved MSM are already looking to minimise public reaction to forced Diversity and Culture.
    For Heavens sake, how can we trust any Organisation that broadcasts the Taliban as ‘Militant’? They’re a Medieval Cult demanding respect in the 21st century.
    If it looks like a Duck and quacks like Duck, it’s a bloody Duck!

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  43. Jeff says:

    So, earlier this week a black MP was found guilty of threatening to throw acid in a love rivals face.
    You know, try as I might, I just can’t imagine Margaret Thatcher, Shirley Williams or Barbara Castle doing something like this. I could be wrong, but…

    And today we have the tragic and pointless murder of a thoroughly decent English MP by some vile, sub human Somali immigrant. Yet another bloody enricher.

    Mind you…

    It is Black History Month.

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    • JohnC says:

      Next month must be a something-‘Pride’ month then.

      I’m still not quite sure why anyone is ‘proud’ to be gay. I’m not ‘proud’ to be heterosexual. I just am.

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  44. Zelazek says:

    On the home page of the BBC website they describe the murderer simply as a “British national”.

    From other reputable sources I learn he is of Somali origin and the police are treating the incident as a probable Islamic terrorist murder.

    The BBC are lying by omission. They are trying to convince us that this guy is one of us.

    Somalis are not British. Black Africans are not British. Muslims are not British. None of these people belong here. We, the British people, were never consulted about their coming here to transform our high trust, homogeneous society into a low trust, multicultural hellhole. And how much safer we would be if they had never come!

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Dear Marianna Spring (BBC wages paid under threat of prosecution),

      As I’ve had to look at your BBC news and use other sources to determine that your news is not news but selective editorial opinion I’d like to request that I have a refund for the last 4 years plus get the BBC free from now on.

      Please let me know how I can go about this as I am willing to create a full list of articles that I’ve had to investigate plus time taken for me to check your fact checker whilst realising that the BBC intentionally removes news rather than incorrectly report on it, uses images to sway opinion or misleads with the main titles hoping no one reads the full article.

      ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’

      CAS-4987700-SY1FTF : BBC NewsWatch says boredom with pro-Brexit march.

      CAS-4844672-N8FDYY: Update on the MP Expenses 2009 scandal in 2018.

      CAS-4939547-J71Z1V: Here’s hoping Ireland do the right thing G.Lineker.

      CAS-4937378-YKMWBJ: BBC not reporting ‘Day of Freedom’ March 06may2018.

      CAS-4906141-BFJQL0: I take offence that presenters promote their books.

      CAS-4892811-C820SC: I am offended that I have to pay the BBC TV Tax.

      CAS-4824332-633N1P: What happened in Italy was not covered …

      CAS-4933135-ZV3V7F: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

      CAS-6005141-S1V9D1: Not seen a report on the UK Governments Covid19 

      Let me know how to go about resolving the issue of paying for something that wastes my time as I have to check each story rather than rely on its accuracy.

      Cheers,
      Mark
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

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      • JohnC says:

        I would say:

        ‘Omission is the most insidious and deceitful form of lie’.

        It’s a lie without lying. The only kind the BBC are allowed to do. And they do it a lot.

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    • theisland says:

      The bBC needs to give us a definition of what they mean by ‘British National’.
      I seem to remember when they first called the dinghy invaders ‘migrants’ they gave us a definition of that term (i.e. what they wanted it to mean).

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    • Banania says:

      @Zelazek
      A sign of the times that you post a comment with which ALMOST EVERY ONE in this country would agree, but nothing happens and we just continue downhill.

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  45. MarkyMark says:

    Boris Johnson has spoken of his shock and sadness at the loss of “one of the kindest” people in politics.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58930593

    Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has said Libyan city Sirte could be the new Dubai, adding, “all they have to do is clear the dead bodies away”.

    His comments at a Conservative fringe meeting sparked anger, with a number of Tory MPs calling for his sacking and Labour labelling him “crass and cruel”.

    Mr Johnson claimed his critics had “no knowledge nor understanding of Libya”.

    A Downing Street source said it was not an “appropriate choice of words” but the PM regarded the matter as closed.

    ROW SPREADS Two more teachers ‘suspended’ at school where class shown cartoons of Prophet Mohammed as ‘they knew of lesson plan’

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    • JohnC says:

      Sadness maybe, but shock ?.

      On the contrary. Events like this are absolutely to be expected now.

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  46. JohnC says:

    Sir David Amess: Conservative MP stabbed to death

    ‘the man arrested is a British national who, according to initial inquiries, is of Somali heritage.’

    The kind of language people use when they are trying to avoid saying what they have to say.

    Lets see what the reaction to this one is. What a shame for David that he was a white male killed by a black Muslim. No eternal glory like the Left have given to Jo Cox. Who – of course – is dragged up again.

    Far-Left Kuenssberg says: ‘But, increasingly, the job has been accompanied by abuse, intimidation – and risk for MPs and their staff.’

    No Laura. Stop obfuscating by generalising. He was murdered by an Islamic terrorist.

    I will watch how the BBC avoid stating the obvious and sweep the root cause of this under the carpet yet again. We will get lots and lots of description of what he did and what his death means to people. And nothing on why the man did it. Because it will offend all the other Muslim’s here who will be secretly happy about it.

    As predicted, the Norwegian Muslim terrorist story has already disappeared completely.

    My disgust at the BBC and the Left remains the same . It can’t get worse because it is already at the end-stop.

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    • G says:

      John,

      I’m so happy that the principle of, “Cannon Fodder” is still alive and kicking. We are about to hear a chorus of calls to increase MP’s security, naturally. When the public get blown up, shot or stabbed by savages the Government let in, their answer?

      Bring in more savages and keep them here thus increasing the risk.

      Not being disrespectful in this instance but, I’d like to see MP’s completely stripped of security so the other principle of, “We are all in this together” applies. After all, it can be taken that virtually all of the MP’s want, directly or indirectly, more savages.

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    • Banania says:

      “Of Somali heritage.” Why “heritage”? He is a Somali, full stop.

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  47. vlad says:

    The stinking rotten lousy BBC informs us thar the involvement of the anti-terrorist police sugests that there is ‘at least some evidence that the murder was inspired by some extremist ideology’.

    Mmm, given that the suspect is a Somali, I wonder what extremist ideology that might be? Go on beeb, take a wild guess.

    The report then make the story all about Jo Cox, where the beeb are back in their comfort zone.

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    • taffman says:

      vlad Et al.

      When is Nadine Dorries going to start doing her job?

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      • Banania says:

        “When is Nadine Dorries going to start doing her job?”
        I fear she may have been appointed in order not to do it.

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  48. vlad says:

    The BBC news then moves on to Muslims butchering each other in Kandahar. I’m sure that has nothing to do with Islam either.

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  49. vlad says:

    Now The Film Review panel are masturbating each other over some film based on some play that’s all about slavery and racism.
    I fear Mark Kermode is about to ejaculate all over the BBC studio.

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  50. BRISSLES says:

    EEEEEEUGH !

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