560 Responses to Midweek Thread 24 November 2021

  1. Thoughtful says:


    Ha Ha Ha! This time XR has gone for the non taxpaying far left supporting Amazon on Black Friday and they have my full support!

    Bezos whose company pays minimal amounts of corporation tax in Britain, and who himself paid no income tax in America last year, but gave $100 Million to the Democrat parties Obama fund can be blockaded for as long as the loons from XR can stand being outdoors in storm Arwen. It wouldn’t bother me if they froze solid whilst glued to the road and kept Amazons deliveries frozen even longer to be honest.


    • Guest Who says:

      Even if the pols and media who are driving this are staying quiet until it is a done deal, folk are starting to notice this Climate Citizen’s Assembly is a a newer, better version of democracy with some very odd methodology.

      To start with it ‘selects’, supposedly randomly, less than 10% of the population to be further filtered.

      Once selected, and hearing about it, presumably if interested and motivated to look further, you are faced with a massive commitment of time sweetened by a bribe.


      And with too much experience of BBC and BBC approved ‘research’, polls, etc, I’d say that final question on top of a bit of demographic pre juggling will see the magic 48 as representative as a QT audience.


    • StewGreen says:

      XR tactics like blocking roads and companies are a form of violence
      cos they prevent bodies going about their lawful daily business.

      #1 In the case of roads that includes journeys which have medical consequences
      eg getting to hospital to visit your mother before she dies.

      #2 In the case of Amazon that includes delivering medical equipment
      eg stuff to help disabled people.


  2. MarkyMark says:



    • G says:



    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      I am reminded of a French expression that I came across many years ago as a student.

      “Sortir de la cuisse de Jupiter” means something like “to have a very high opinion of oneself” (literally = “to come out of Jupiter’s thigh”).

      Dis donc!


  3. Thoughtful says:

    Wow the crazies in the media are getting worse! We are being asked to believe that these two are 12 and 17 years old stated as a fact by the media:


    Riaz Mohammed, 12, his relative Share Mohammed, 17, pictured wearing life jackets on the beach prior to the crossing which resulted in the deaths of 27 people


  4. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Botswana Variant.

    Cast you mind back to March 2020, and the videos of Chinese people dying in the streets.

    Bat soup & Pangolins.

    We are witnessing the end of our civilisation.


    • Thoughtful says:

      Whitty needs to sacked as does the rest of Sage for burying their own feet in concrete and being completely unable to change direction to face the threat.

      They are still following the same plan they had when they knew little about Covid, and if it hadn’t been for the government closing the Nightingale hospitals SAGE would still be wanting them left open – just in case.

      Covid disproportionately kills of affects the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions, so they should be targetted to keep them safe and the rest of the populace who are much less affected should be allowed to go about their lives without any restrictions.


  5. MarkyMark says:

    “We just want to live like you” is the Metro’s main headline as it reports reaction to Wednesday’s Channel tragedy, in which 27 people died. The paper says desperate migrants say they are still prepared to risk their lives for a better life in the UK. It quotes one man from Iraq as saying: “You only have one life.”


  6. MarkyMark says:

    Javid – £150,000 for 96 hours … £1562.5 per hour …. NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

    From 17 August 2020 until 26 June 2021, Adviser and Member of J.P. Morgan EMEA Advisory Council, J.P. Morgan Securities plc, 25 Bank Street, Canary Wharf, London E14 5JP. For providing advice on the global economy, major industries and geo-politics, I received £150,000 a year, paid biannually. Hours: 80-96 hrs a year. I consulted ACoBA about this appointment. (Registered 01 September 2020; updated 21 July 2021)



  7. Guest Who says:


    Clearly only a matter of time before Naga joins the Cowboys at BBC North America. Plus the two blondes.


    • theisland says:

      I trust someone has already alerted Kye R’s lawyers to the lies still being told about him and the case by Americast.
      Because the bBC has a worldwide reputation, reach and following (according to them), they deserve extra special attention when it comes to taking out lawsuits.


  8. MarkyMark says:

    Free Koran when Javid becomes UK PM!

    . . . .

    All public office holders should swear an oath of allegiance to British values, according to Communities Secretary Sajid Javid. He claims that public officials must accept basic values like democracy, equality and the rule of law. The new oath will also apply to all new migrants in plans expected to be unveiled this spring.



    • Banania says:

      An oath of allegiance to British values?
      Why not just to the Queen and her successors, and be done with it?


  9. Guest Who says:

    No idea who he is, but Liz is screwed.


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  10. MarkyMark says:

    “lawfully sacked for writing tweets which criticised government policies.” {bbc.co.uk aug2019} – the death of freedom of speech.

    1765 …. **In a republic worthy of name, freedom to publish one ’s thoughts is a citizen’s natural right.** They may use a pen or their voice, and should not be prevented from writing any more than speaking …That is the law in England, a monarchical country, where people are freer than elsewhere because they are more enlightened. – Voltaire, Republican Ideas, 1765

    2019 …Australia’s highest court has made a landmark ruling that a public servant was lawfully sacked for writing tweets which criticised government policies. The court rejected her claim that she had been denied a right to free speech. – Australia, 2019

    1765 … **In a republic worthy of name, freedom to publish one’s thoughts is a citizen’s natural right.**

    2019 … ** a public servant was lawfully sacked for writing tweets which criticised government policies.**



  11. Guest Who says:

    I raised serious XR questions with the bbc, National and Local in 2018, when I read the manifesto and The Leadership Alinsky disruption videos to achieve a better kind of democracy.

    The bbc is again ignoring the rigged Climate Citizens Assemblies being oozed in this weekend.

    Currently they are asking listeners if they are worried about their sons being steered by a Dr. Who with tits and whether Marcus Rashford needs to reidentify.



    • MarkyMark says:

      EXTRA RICH Firm funding Extinction Rebellion given £3.1m last year but blew over £3.5m on stunts
      Tom Wells
      2:40, 11 Jul 2021Updated: 2:42, 11 Jul 2021
      A FIRM funding eco-group Extinction Rebellion was given £3.1million last year — but blew more than £3.5million on stunts.

      Compassionate Revolution Ltd, which has XR founder Gail Bradbrook as a director, landed the cash in mystery grants and donations.


  12. MarkyMark says:

    The UK’s Health Security Agency says its analysis of English data shows Covid vaccines are safe in pregnancy, reinforcing international evidence.

    The agency found similar rates of stillbirths and preterm births for vaccinated and unvaccinated mothers.



  13. Guest Who says:

    “There’s a storm coming, Ned…”

    Too much is not adding up too often as the media obsess about trivia.


  14. Guest Who says:

    Lest there be any doubt the bbc #SurKeerSez bot simply copies and pastes….


    • MarkyMark says:

      Hamas are our friends (c) Corbyn
      Men have a cervix (c) Starmer
      Mao did more good than harm (c) Diane Abbott


  15. MarkyMark says:

    Cosmetic surgery ads to be banned for under-18s

    Drag Race UK winner: ‘I’m going to take on the world’
    Before Krystal lip synced for the crown in the final episode, host RuPaul said: “She is only 19. She’s still trying to find her footing and this competition has really put her to the test.


  16. MarkyMark says:

    Impartial speaker …

    Commons Speaker ruffles Boris’ feathers on Newscast

    Commons Speaker ruffles Boris’ feathers on Newscast
    The Speaker of the House of Commons took his pet parrot Boris with him to a BBC Newscast interview and the bird caused some mischief in the studio.

    Sir Lindsay Hoyle is regularly accompanied by Boris (the bird) in Westminster.

    The Speaker keeps politically named pets at home – with Boris the parrot, Maggie the tortoise and Gordon the dog just a few examples.



  17. digg says:

    I wonder when the penny will drop for Boris. It is clear that Macron has a visceral hate for him stemming from the Brexit vote so discussion with Macron is totally pointless. Macron is nothing but a drama queen.

    Macron will do everything in his power to throw turds at Boris so Boris needs to be his own man again.

    The French have nothing to lose and all to gain by blocking Boris’s plans for dealing with illegal immigration.

    It’s time for him to accept this and start making other plans, the most obvious of which is to despatch lllegals back home immediately. This would take away the ‘draw’ factor overnight.

    Boris would of course need to ignore the howls coming from the bleeding heart Liberals and just get on with it. The vast majority of the sane UK population would be with him on this.


    • MarkyMark says:

      All under a conservative party ….
      Home Office loses track of more than 600,000 people who should have left country, finds immigration watchdog
      UK border checks branded ‘shambolic’

      May Bulman
      Social Affairs Correspondent
      Thursday 29 March 2018


    • Guest Who says:

      The Mirror, so…. caution advised.


      If confirmed, maybe Dutch based Springster and Calais roaming Lewis could ask their mates in the EU, France and French plod, and bbc studio based Labour gobs on whose beaches these activities were taking place as Manny got snitty over a letter?


  18. Guest Who says:

    There could of course be a down side to being an awarded specialist in fact checking.

    Big hugs from the girls tonight. Maybe the women too.


    • Guest Who says:

      She is busy, mind. Going Dutch still.


      • MarkyMark says:

        Dear Marianna Spring (BBC wages paid under threat of prosecution),

        As I’ve had to look at your BBC news and use other sources to determine that your news is not news but selective editorial opinion I’d like to request that I have a refund for the last 4 years plus get the BBC free from now on.

        Please let me know how I can go about this as I am willing to create a full list of articles that I’ve had to investigate plus time taken for me to check your fact checker whilst realising that the BBC intentionally removes news rather than incorrectly report on it, uses images to sway opinion or misleads with the main titles hoping no one reads the full article.

        ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’

        CAS-4987700-SY1FTF : BBC NewsWatch says boredom with pro-Brexit march.

        CAS-4844672-N8FDYY: Update on the MP Expenses 2009 scandal in 2018.

        CAS-4939547-J71Z1V: Here’s hoping Ireland do the right thing G.Lineker.

        CAS-4937378-YKMWBJ: BBC not reporting ‘Day of Freedom’ March 06may2018.

        CAS-4906141-BFJQL0: I take offence that presenters promote their books.

        CAS-4892811-C820SC: I am offended that I have to pay the BBC TV Tax.

        CAS-4824332-633N1P: What happened in Italy was not covered …

        CAS-4933135-ZV3V7F: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

        CAS-6005141-S1V9D1: Not seen a report on the UK Governments Covid19 

        Let me know how to go about resolving the issue of paying for something that wastes my time as I have to check each story rather than rely on its accuracy.



      • Guest Who says:

        BBC News

        What do we know about the new Covid variant, and what does it mean for all of us?

        BBC Health and Science Correspondent James Gallagher, and Business Correspondent Caroline Davies answer your questions on the variant.


        Caroline is also super specialised. And blonde.


        • MarkyMark says:

          So for now we are left with a variant that raises significant concerns despite huge holes in our knowledge, and is one that needs to be watched closely and asks deep questions about what to do and when. The lesson of the pandemic is you can’t always wait until you have all the answers.


  19. Guest Who says:

    Have the bbc rehired Ben Hunte yet?


  20. theisland says:


  21. MarkyMark says:

    This BBC article yesterday added to the litany of terrible things that are happening because of global warming.

    Man-made climate change is killing off the birds, right?


  22. Guest Who says:

    Sky has imposed restrictions on this post.


  23. theisland says:

    I blame HR (again).


  24. StewGreen says:

    BBC local news Thursday
    Item #3 was Lincolnshire Conservative done for fraud
    seems busted fair and square.

    Item #4 East Yorkshire Tory councillor and his anti -Covid tweet
    Big item with political correspondent
    no actual new big news
    Rather he is caving in to Labour legal threats
    instead of going to court.
    I don’t think people should defame Corbyn
    bit IMHO the defamation was very small.
    No one would take it as that Corbyn applauded the attack


  25. taffman says:

    “Chris Whitty: I worry people won’t accept more Covid curbs”
    Erm he could be right . Will they bring in the behavioural phycologists again?


    • MarkyMark says:

      Nudge Nudge ….

      Why ‘nudge’?
      It is called ‘nudge’ after the book by Richard Thaler (who went on to win the Nobel prize in economics) and Cass Sunstein which set out how people are not the rational economic actors beloved of conventional economic theory – but can be influenced by “choice architecture” into making better choices in their own interests.


    • MarkyMark says:

      What is the Nudge Unit doing on coronavirus?
      The Nudge Unit is working closely with the Department of Health and Social Care in crafting the government response. The most visible manifestation of its influence to date is in the communication around hand-washing and face touching – in particular the use of “disgust” as an incentive to wash hands and the suggestion of singing Happy Birthday to ensure hands are washed for the requisite 20 seconds.


  26. StewGreen says:

    Hull local news somehow not made onto Local TV news
    : Turkish man denies raping woman in Hull’s Drypool Bridge area

    A Turkish man accused of raping a woman in the Drypool Bridge area of Hull has denied the offence.
    .. in the early hours of September 19.
    He appeared in the dock before Hull Crown Court and spoke with the help of an interpreter.
    The case was adjourned until March 14 for trial


    • StewGreen says:

      Jun 26 @DaveAtherton20 tweeted
      In Hull girls, some going to primary school were raped & abused by 34 men of *Turkish*, Kurdish & Bangladeshi heritage.
      All were under 16.


  27. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Many tv commentators point out that the French appear to just stand and watch as each inflatable is run out to the sea by dozens of doctors and nuclear physicists.
    They will say they cannot stop them.

    How long does it take to assemble and fully inflate one of these boats. They probably need some kind of compressor engine which will be noisy and they must assemble it near to the shoreline, probably in the dunes.
    It will need some kind of roadway to drive the boat and compressor to the starting area plus the crowds of surgeons and engineers who will be the passengers.

    Is the coastline so deserted that nobody notices all this activity going on for several hours before the launch.
    I live on the NE coast and that sort of activity would be immediately seen and reported even without a £54 million police presence looking for them.

    If they wanted to stop them they could.
    They don’t want to stop them.


  28. StewGreen says:

    GBnews “coming up is the BBC impartial ?”


  29. StewGreen says:

    Another Hull rape case seemed under reported, cos I have never heard of it
    Hong Kong newspaper October 4th
    “cop gets 33 years for UK rapes”
    former Royal Hong Kong Police inspector, Ken Chik Ki-wai, 63, migrated to Hull in Yorkshire, England, (in 1997 before HK was handed back to China)

    That contrasts with absolute saturation of the Libby Squires case
    where eventually a Polish guy was convicted of her rape and murder.

    An accomplice, Tracy Choi, 37, was a victim of Chik and proceeded to help him commit crimes. She was jailed for eight years. Choi had went to the UK for her education when she was 18 but stayed there illegally since, the court was told.

    Hull Crown Court heard that Chik and Choi had orchestrated a seven-year “campaign of rape” involving three female victims in Hull.


    • StewGreen says:

      It’s as if 1,000 real news events happen each day
      and the media select bout 300 to even mention
      and then select 20 for different levels of obsessive coverage.


  30. MarkyMark says:

    Boris to return French Property ( dinghies ) to Macron followed by the owners ….


  31. StewGreen says:

    9pm BBC2 #Womanhood
    “Six female celebrities
    spanning different age ranges, backgrounds and experiences
    come together in Leeds
    to tackle some of the most hotly contested issues facing women today.”

    @KirstyWark is joined by @ShirleyBallas ,
    Chidera Eggerue ( the weirdly dressed author),



    • StewGreen says:

      No surprise one is a Trump hating lesbian

      Do straight white women represent only half of UK females
      In a country which is 85% white ?


    • MarkyMark says:

      Sexist program – not equal – ofcom?!


    • StewGreen says:

      Trans star India Willoughby, a woman who was once a man
      Also, I was lined up to be on this when it was originally planned to be filmed, pre-pandemic.
      But clearly something changed at the @BBC.

      Trans is 100% one of the topics they’re discussing.
      Was on the brief.
      Again, talked about – never seen


  32. Kaiser says:


  33. Zephir says:

    Flashback: Biden suggested Trump’s coronavirus travel ban was ‘xenophobic’
    The Biden administration restricted travel from several African countries on Friday


    “We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus,” Biden tweeted as a presidential candidate last year the day after Trump imposed travel restrictions from several countries including China into the United States. “We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.”

    Biden also referred to Trump’s temporary immigration ban from certain African countries as a “disgrace.”

    Vice-President Kamala Harris also criticized Trump on that issue calling the move “Un-American.”


  34. JimS says:

    Dame Rachel de Souza, children’s commissioner for England, said: “This kind of violence involving a child and with such tragic consequences is shocking at any time, but when the victim is 12 it’s particularly so.”

    Getting to be pretty normal that those wielding the knives are of comparable age, something that no longer ‘shocks’.


  35. Zephir says:

    ‘Secular atheist’ train conductor who celebrated pubs reopening by declaring he didn’t want to live in an ‘alcohol-free caliphate’ wins unfair dismissal claim

    A tribunal ruled this week that West Midlands Trains did not follow proper procedure when it decided to fire him for gross misconduct after a complaint of racism



  36. Zephir says:

    Thanks Cop26! Fury as plans for 190 acre solar solar farm on countryside that inspired author Thomas Hardy are given the green light after pressure from climate summit swung council vote

    Proposals for industrial-scale farm in near Sherborne in Dorset were slammed
    Councillors ignored advice from experts and agreed to back the scheme
    Campaign to Protect Rural England among those who said it would cause harm
    Ray Hartley, from the CPRE, said he was ‘astonished’ by green light decision
    He said the only explanation was that pressure from Cop26 swung the vote

    Historic England, the Campaign to Protect Rural England (CPRE) and even officials from the local planning authority involved agreed it would cause unacceptable harm to the rural landscape. The planning application was submitted by renewable energy giant Voltalia UK to Dorset Council, which declared a ‘climate emergency’ in 2019, pledging to act on climate change.

    It attracted 369 letters of objection from members of the public, three parish councils, Historic England, the CPRE and Dorset Council’s own planning officer, conservation officer and landscape architect.

    CPRE said: ‘The planning officer recommended refusal, there were 369 objections and the council’s senior landscape architect said it would have a significant impact on the landscape.


    • StewGreen says:

      Is it about, what they say it’s about ?

      They say it’s about saving CO2
      but if those solar panels were located in sunny Africa they’d generate 3 times as much electricity as in the UK.

      They are placing the panels in a place where CO2 saving will 1/3 of that in a sunny place
      They don’t care about CO2.


  37. tomo says:

    BBC “News” – as imagined by Michael Morpurgo


    Barber’s Adagio (with some rapping) as the soundtrack anybody?


    • MarkyMark says:

      Must See…


    • Bulldog says:


      Agree this is so excruciating it stands posting twice – – see mine at 8.22 p.m – makes you feel so fortunate to live in the U.K. when millions are desperate to migrate here – and probably will


      • tomo says:

        Bulldog 👍

        I’ve no problem with people emoting – but having worked (legally) in a lot of the countries that many of these people are coming from originally and feeling that we already have enough Uber / Deliveroo drivers I feel that the likes of Mr Morpurgo should go and visit….

        One problem with the BBC is that they emote on simply everything and then proceed to build myths and magical tales. If the BBC’s “News” were actually doing “News” one might actually see reportage of who these people are and where they’ve come from.


  38. tomo says:

    A prominent migrant piece now on the BBC web.

    Wholly aimed at legitimising the migrants and excusing the smugglers.

    Yet more painfully woke activism dressed up as “News”


  39. Guest Who says:

    Lewis Goodhall likely on his Xmas card list.


    • MarkyMark says:

      NCA officers located Albanian Hazir Lala, 39, in Walthamstow, North London, on Friday night.

      In April 2016 he was convicted of drunk driving, driving without insurance and possession and control of false ID documents – the offences were committed a few months earlier in February.

      He was disqualified from driving for 15 months and jailed for six months.

      He was arrested again in the UK on 4 September 2019 for organised immigration crime offences committed in Belgium.

      His extradition was ordered and he was returned to Belgium in 2020 where he was convicted of human trafficking and participating in a criminal organisation.

      He was given a five-year prison sentence but it was partially suspended. He was also ordered to pay a fine of 102,000 Euros but 51,000 was suspended.


  40. Guest Who says:

    Bet he has.

    And will.


  41. Guest Who says:

    Dan and Ian should get a room.

    Probably have a BBC green one already.


  42. Ian Rushlow says:

    Number of Omicron cases in UK soars by 50% in just one day!

    by Junior BBC Staff Reporter

    Experts are warning that the steps announced yesterday by the government to contain the ‘most terrifying virus yet’ are hopelessly inadequate, and that only a full blown lockdown, preferably backdated to November 1st, can help prevent the Worst Ever Winter ™ for the NHS. The stark warning was made after the BBC revealed that the number of Omicron cases had soared by an unprecedented 50% in a single day i.e. it was 2 yesterday and is now 3 today.

    Meanwhile, in what can only be described as a provocative and blatant attempt at false news, the UK government has published figures showing that hospital admissions are down 11.2% in a week and the number of deaths that might be something to do with Covid (possibly) have fallen by 17.6% during the same period.