301 Responses to Start the Week 3 October 2022

  1. smoogie7 says:

    Well the Tory conference has started and so have the protesters outside. Some nasty scenes from today but the BBC reporting is of a peaceful protest with people hurt over whatever it is they are hurt over. All the nastiness is ignored by the BBC but there are some real animals out there. Think I saw a crossdresser or two amongst them as well.

    Am I the only one who thinks that the Labour Party and their supporters have the same level of protection put onto them as the EU and Muslims?


    • Wild Bill says:

      Wouldnt it be great if loads protested at the Labour conference?


      • smoogie7 says:

        I heard that there was a feminist group protesting who are Labour members that got shut out of the conference as they have concerns over Starmer’s stance on the who trans gender thing. Starmer seems to have shut out all of his critics and the BBC made no mention of these in house disputes. The closest was speaking to a couple of dockyard workers on strike who are also not happy with Starmer. A very strange and worrying trend where Starmer does not allow any criticism whatsoever with the media happy to sing his praises.

        There is something very unnerving about the direction of the Labour Party under Starmer and it seems worse than the Corbyn years


  2. Nibor says:

    I see Michael Gove is now a BBC favourite. Is this the same MG that the BBC have traduced in their so called comedies?
    So some ex gruntled Tory leadership contenders ( eg Rory Stewart , Ken Clarke ) are wheeled in to condemn the new leader .

    BBC , why not talk about lowering the taxation levied on this country instead of about redistribution- if it really is that that bothers you .? Why not talk about the waste of our money on expanding the population ( thus needing more infrastructure , thus more government spending, thus more taxes) by the illegal bogus asylum seekers? Who are put up in hotels .

    And don’t get me started about the buzz word put about by Labour , yourselves and the idiot party = productivity.
    More later .


    • Up2snuff says:

      Nibor, Beeboids cannot talk favourably about the tax cuts because they all benefit up to salaries of £50K and those on salaries of over £150K (most of the presenters) will be benefitting big-time from the scrapping of the Top Rate of Income Tax.


      • Nibor says:

        Sorry Up2 , I put the word ; yourselves ; there , which I mean BBC , not the good folk here .
        I write like Edgar Wallace .


        • Up2snuff says:

          Yes, Nibor, I undestood that ‘yourselves’ as meaning the Beeboids. If Liz Truss was hoping to put Labour, the BBC and others of the LeftMob in an awkward place re-tax cuts it hasn’t worked. Why?

          The Labour Party, the BBC and LeftMob are the biggest hypocrites of all.


  3. Thoughtful says:

    Because we all need a laugh at the loons:



    • Scroblene says:

      There’s a running joke around here, as to why these nutters can’t make up their own names for their disgusting rubbish.

      As yet, we haven’t thought up a name for vegan sausages, but after this hilarious pic, we will!


    • tomo says:

      Reflects the latest share price?


  4. JohnC says:

    Tory conference: Labour favourites to win power at next election, says John Curtice

    Goodness me. What an article.

    The BBC finally reach the journalistic standards of The Sun.


  5. JohnC says:

    Lets compare and contrast the tone of the BBC coverage of this conference to the Labour one.

    I didn’t see a single negative word about Labour.

    Will OFCOM pipe up when it’s all negative and filled with ‘but ..’ and ‘however …’ for the Tories ?.

    Of course they won’t.

    How do you resolve a problem like this when the whole establishment is against the people ?.


  6. Nibor says:

    The nasty party ?! Torys ?

    Who is the nicer

    Kemi Badenoch or Angela Rayner?

    Perhaps, if the way they go about things ; the Stupid Party , as exemplified by choosing Theresa May once who coined the phrase the Nasty Party .
    Placating the BBC and chasing votes from “ intellectuals “ who would never vote for them , what do they deserve?


  7. StewGreen says:

    The media are a continual distorting mirror of reality
    Michael Shellenberger starts a long thread, like this
    “Over the last week, the mainstream news media claimed that hurricanes are becoming more frequent & intense, but they’re not, as the data clearly show.
    What’s more, it’s clear that the media are engaging in *deliberate* misinformation.
    These aren’t innocent mistakes.”



  8. StewGreen says:

    Those people that shout “diversity”
    seem to the ones that go around excluding
    They are so quick to classify people as a “type” they don’t like
    and therefore it is OK to exclude that person for life

    I am talking about the way that many libmob say that UKIP , the Brexit Party, Global Warming skeptics are all bad types who should be excluded from all platforms.


  9. taffman says:

    “Tory conference: Liz Truss will lose 45p tax rate vote, says Shapps
    By Chris Mason”

    More importantly, the Tories will lose the next election if they don’t defend our borders and stop the mass invasion of our country by criminals . They have made so many promises to do that for the last ten years or so ……….
    “Channel migrants: Nearly 500 people cross in single day”


    • Rob in Cheshire says:


      The Conservatives will lose the nest election. Truss folds at the first sign of trouble. If she believed in the 45% tax cut, then fight for it. This is just pathetic. The idea that she will stand up to the dinghy divers and the human rights lobby is for the birds.

      Why vote Conservative? There is nothing there.


  10. StewGreen says:

    Radio Times “As we head into Black History Month, the annual recognition of the contribution and achievements of those with African or Caribbean heritage, there is a host of programming airing this week to mark the occasion”

    Flipping heck there seemed to be a lot of black programming on Sunday night .
    10:15pm Ranganathan
    10:45pm, Queen & Slim
    “This 2019 film stars Daniel Kaluuya and Jodie Turner-Smith, and tells the story of a young couple who experience a bad Tinder date. On their way back from the date they are pulled over by police in a racially-motivated traffic stop, and in the heat of the moment Slim shoots the officer dead in self-defence”

    12:50am Black Hollywood: `They’ve Gotta Have Us” ep1/3

    11:20pm – 11:50pm Black Quiz : Jimmy Akingbola returns with the panel show in which guests answer questions about black history, with regular Chizzy Akudolu joined by Eddie Kadi, White Yardie, Athena Kugblenu, Verona Rose and Babatunde Aleshé

    10:50pm Everyone Can Rap
    Three ordinary people learn how to express themselves through rap, guided by rapper Youngs Teflon. Part of the Fresh Cuts strand featuring new directors for Black History Month

    8pm Black ballet #1
    8:30pm Black ballet #2
    11:10 Stephen: The Murder That Changed a Nation ep1
    12:10 Stephen: ep2
    Strangely 7pm bbc4 BBC Young Musician
    ep1/5 Strings doesn’t feature a black kid
    but only one conventional surname Walton
    Others : Blendis, Kasprzak, Wernig, Ziegler

    9pm BBC Dave Channel
    “New. A host of Black comedians and performers tell their stories about Black history and their experiences in comedy”



    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Stephen Lawrence. The name rings a bell. Wasn’t he a black teenager who got stabbed to death by whites? Has a single black youth been stabbed to death since then? Not by whites, perhaps.


      • atlas_shrugged says:


        Stephen Lawrence was the headmaster who tried to protect one of his pupils outside his school and got stabbed to death for his trouble.

        The magot who killed him was jailed at our taxpayer expense and when he got out, because he was ‘Italian’, the UK tried unsuccessfully to deport him. The EU judge said that that would infringe the ‘uman rights of the murdering magot. No consideration for the dignified wife of the murdered headmaster who had to put up with said magot wandering the UK streets free as a bird.

        We need to deport these judges. This most easily done by refusing them re-entry to the UK after their 8 week holiday in the Seychelles. Use enemy of the realm or some such.

        The other Stephen Lawrence? Never heard of him.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Albino Lives Matter.


  11. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    This is a follow-up to my previous “asking for help” comment regarding the BBC website – when I first go to the website a webpage loads and then it automatically and rapidly redirects to another webpage.

    What I now realise is happening is that I first go to www bbc.com (the international webpage) and then I am automatically redirected to www bbc.co.uk. I want to prevent that switch. So I need to block the bbc website accessing my IP address.

    I don’t know how to do that apart from using a VPN. I have used two online VPNS https: //hide.me/en/proxy and https: //hidester.com/proxy/ however although it seems to capture and stay on the www bbc.com webpage it loses the formatting (I just get a list). I wonder if anyone could comment and perhaps advise?


    • Pat..original says:

      @Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate. Just tried that out of curiosity and it does take you to the UK page instantly. It seems to open on the World page but this is for the world not us ! Often I have followed links on American sites and it says ‘not available in your country’. Never found out why. No doubt plan somewhere we haven’t figured out yet. Good Luck.


      • StewGreen says:

        American news sites often say ‘not available in your country’
        cos they have to take extra steps to comply to EU data law,
        re cookie tracking etc.
        So rather than bother they just block themselves
        but of course the UK is not in the EU
        The corps are just assuming the UK is keeping to EU law on this, probably true.

        The internet archive servers are in the US
        so capture the BBC pages which the US seems
        sometimes they still redirect to bbc.co.uk anyway
        However https://www.bbc.com/news does not, so you can see the US version captured 100 times per day


        • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

          Thanks – the internet archive seems to be a useful resource. I didn’t really know what it was or what it does but have seen it mentioned and have clicked on links that took me there. So when I search bbc.com it takes me to a lot of useful information that I had been trying to collect ad hoc daily. Although much better it doesn’t seem to save the majority of images (on bbc.com frontpage capture). So maybe I need to spend a little time checking to see if there are other similar archives – including those based in the UK – but in the mean time I’ll explore the internet archive.


    • uffPuff2210 says:

      Try the Tor browser – works for me


  12. Zephir says:

    The New Nazis in action:

    “Tory conference attendees face angry mob of left wing protestors: Hecklers shout ‘Tory scum’ at Jacob Rees-Mogg while Michael Fabricant is booed and jeered at as both are given a police escort

    Jacob Rees-Mogg was chased and heckled by protesters in Birmingham today
    Business Secretary required a police escort as protesters screamed at him
    Tory MP Michael Fabricant also faced vicious verbal abuse from demonstrators ”

    Fellow Tory MP Michael Fabricant was also violently intimidated and had vile abuse screamed at him by protesters outside the conference – with some even calling him a ‘Tory c***’.

    There are reports that delegates were too scared to leave the conference building, with members and journalists concealing their lanyards to try to evade the verbal abuse being aimed at them by the crowds of protestors outside.

    Many frustrated Britons could be heard calling him a w****r and a b*****d as he maintained a smile on his face at all times. ”



  13. Zephir says:

    Pledge to combat ‘cancel culture’ in human rights shake-up: Justice Secretary pledges law reform for protect free speech

    A Bill of Rights to replace the Human Rights Act was published this year
    Mr Lewis said the Government is determined to tackle illegal immigration

    Brandon Lewis made the pledge amid concern that unelected judges were developing European-style privacy laws by the back door.

    He said: ‘We need to ensure we have a system of human rights that doesn’t create or give cover for cancel culture. We need to do everything we can to protect freedom of speech, even when it can be really, really annoying.

    He added that allowing free speech and debate to be restricted would leave society ‘trapped in one person’s world view, which is very, very dangerous’.

    A Bill of Rights to replace Labour’s Human Rights Act was published by Boris Johnson’s government this year – but it has gone back to the drawing board to ensure it combats the issue of Channel migrants being trafficked from France in small boats. Mr Lewis told a fringe event set up by the Policy Exchange think-tank at the Conservative Party conference yesterday that he and Home Secretary Suella Braverman were working on reforming human rights laws to boost deportations.

    Mr Lewis indicated that the previous Bill of Rights plans were likely to be broken down into smaller packages to get them through Parliament, adding: ‘We’ll probably do it in different pieces of legislation.’

    It is understood a separate package will set out how decisions by UK courts supersede rulings by the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, and that Parliament has supreme authority in law-making.

    ‘We do need to be clear that Parliament is sovereign and if Parliament has expressed a view through legislation then the courts have always kept to that view when implementing the law that has been passed,’ he said. His remarks came after Mrs Braverman said she would reform the Modern Slavery Act, which has allowed Channel migrants to delay deportation by claiming they had been exploited.

    ‘A majority of people coming here from Albania – some 80 per cent – who are coming across on small boats are claiming to be victims of modern slavery… regardless of the fact that they may have paid tens of thousands of pounds for the privilege of being a so-called modern slave.



    • atlas_shrugged says:

      Hopefully the Nu-BillOfRights will get knocked on the head. We already have a most excellent Bill of Rights and as confirmed by ex speaker Betty Boothroyd this is still in force.

      Everything is backwards these days so if you see something called a Bill of Rights then this will be something to remove your rights.


  14. Fedup2 says:

    Today watch

    Almost a record . I lasted 3 minutes . Robinson in fully smug anti blue labour crow ‘u turn ‘ ‘revolt ‘ and the like . I’m back on streamed music ….
    There’s a bit which drives me to listen to Today to evidence the bias but I cannot bare Robinson now – at least the football team he purports to support got taken apart yesterday
    And shares its’ decline with the BBC – both past their Best – both too expensive – both arrogant …. Both losing ‘talent ‘ and living on a long past ‘greatness’


  15. andyjsnape says:

    Iran protests: Reports of students trapped amid clashes in Tehran

    “Reports” say a large number of students at Sharif university in Tehran have been trapped in the campus car park

    I’m wondering of the large number? 12 or 13 maybe, depends of the story the bBC is trying to create


  16. Fedup2 says:

    Back to radio 4

    – easy example of bias – Brazilian election – “far right” candidate up against “ socialist “ .

    So why not “right wing “ candidate versus “left wing “ candidate if they want to report fairly .?

    And when does “right wing “ become “far right “ .. with a prejudice by the state broadcaster that “far right “ is “wrong “?


  17. Fedup2 says:

    The fool PM is doing a U turn on the ridiculous 45% tax cut . So will the idiot chancellor resign by the end of the day ? He can spend more time with his hedge fund mates ….

    Obviously the BBC will throw petrol on the fire – but the dumb Blue Labour types started it . Looks like Rishi doesn’t need to get his green card yet …

    Pound is up …might be a busy bloody day ..


    • StewGreen says:

      Free speech is free speech
      but the BBC and media
      spend a lot of time “throwing petrol on the fire

      That HARMS Britain
      yet these people think they are healing it


  18. StewGreen says:

    BBCnews is so often BBC campaigning
    7am Radio Lincolnshire news was a carefully crafted and honed and long first campaign item against the 45% tax change
    Then the presenter said “its such a depressing time all our energy bills went up on Saturday”
    … em that’s not entirely true
    Many of our neighbors seem to be on fixed price contracts, it just that now in some months when they finish the new contracts that they will be offered will be higher.

    The presenter then went into a long spiel about how the U-turn is coming.


    • moggie63 says:

      It’s a shock. Our fixed contract finishes mid November and the projection for the following year is triple the cost. Have told the wife that street corners beckon, she’s fine with it and says she’ll see me when I get home.


  19. Zephir says:

    So, there we have it, as quoted above, how bloody stupid, dishonest and incompetent our civil service / Home Office are, to allow the lying, criminal scum illegally entering our country, (and their bent lawyers) to pursue claim of “being a slave” when they have paid many thousands of pounds to be trafficked here ?

    Why is this not, without any delay, IMMEDIATELY thrown out of court as ridiculous and their lawyers disbarred for blatant dishonesty ?

    ‘A majority of people coming here from Albania – some 80 per cent – who are coming across on small boats are claiming to be victims of modern slavery… regardless of the fact that they may have paid tens of thousands of pounds for the privilege of being a so-called modern slave.”



  20. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    I see Steve Baker (blm kneebender) is busy apologising toEu and Ireland. What the hell is going on? I hope it’s all some sort of cunning plan.
    Now I hear there are plans to bring Boris back and the Remoaners are using the anti-Liz Truss pile-on hysteria to do so. The current mess would seem to me to be mainly useless Boris’s fault but the organisers of the weird and not wonderful long drawn out Conservative leadership contest should share the rest of the blame.
    Well if there has to be another one then I suggest Suella Braverman be the sole candidate for the Brexit side. She seems to be the only one who is still committed to carrying out what she promised.
    Suella for PM.


  21. Fedup2 says:


    The 45% rate has gone . The outgoing superficially coloured chancellor is being shouted out – bullied – interrogated – at 0810.
    My prize goes to how far in will the word ‘apology ‘ – ‘consider position ‘ be used – ? I reckon first minute …

    Apparently if the outgoing chancellor is still in his job by lunchtime he has to do his party piece to his Party this afternoon .
    Get the popcorn out …

    Meanwhile Rishi sits and waits – touch of the Shakespeare’s …


    • Zephir says:

      “Why did UK Prime Minister Liz Truss cut taxes on the highest earners when income inequality is such a big thing?
      There was a lot of pretty fuzzy maths being thrown around when the tax cuts were announced. The Guardian breathlessly informed us that someone earning £200,000 was now over £5,000 better off per year, but someone earning £10,000 a year was just £124 better off.

      It sounds impressive, but it does rather gloss over the fact that the person earning £10,000 a year paid hardly any tax anyhow (in fact, they only pay National Insurance) whereas the person earning £200,000 would be paying nearly six figures worth of tax each year. After the cuts the person on £10,000 a year is even closer to paying nothing (their already tiny tax burden has been halved), but the person on a high income is still paying nearly six figures (their extremely large tax burden has had a chip taken out of it).

      Indeed, it is hard to imagine how a person earning £10,000 could conceivably had much more tax cut – if you don’t pay tax (the tax free allowance is £12,500) then you don’t benefit from tax cuts.

      Income inequality is undoubtedly a bad thing, but the reason tax cuts disproportionately benefitted the highest earners was because low earners already pay only a tiny fraction of the taxes of higher earners. People should be a little bit more honest with the way they express their calculations”


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, I intended to switch on for that 8.10 a.m. Interview, having listened to the first hour of TOADY. Unfortunately I forgot. Did I miss anything?

      Old age can have its compensations ….. 🙂


      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2 no.

        I’m still waiting for a Tory PM – or any MP to fully take on aggressive self important journos like Robinson but that day has never come . …

        … there was a lot left out of the so called ‘interview ‘ such as the outgoing chancellors ‘ unhealthy association with hedge fund squash and champagne buddies which stinks to high heaven …

        But listening to the vibe – the chancellor was just there to take a kicking – which is what happened £ € is at 1.12 from 1.09 last week – which I think is a big move ….

        I wonder if Redwood would be a good chancellor ….?


  22. Zephir says:

    Says it all really:

    “Why in millennial and Gen Z guitar culture, are they more obsessed with learning how to play like legendary guitarist (Hendrix, Page, Clapton) instead of developing their own style?

    I was talking to a friend of mine who aspired to be a professional guitarist and he’s good enough that he definitely could have been, but he wasn’t at the right place at the right time. He told me that he was starting to make videos of his guitar playing for Instagram and they had to be one minute or less.

    I asked him why the videos have to be short. He said that none of the people using Instagram had the attention span for a video longer than a minute! I didn’t believe him, but them I found TikTok and their videos are mostly all less than a minute as well!

    I knew this technological change in our culture had decimated attention spans. I only had to look at the the most popular answers here to see that most people only want the simplest of things. I just didn’t realize that the problem was quite so catastrophic. It’s really getting to where it’s like: Watch a culture rot.

    They did it to themselves. They took something that was designed to be a tool people could use to improve their lives and “bring the world together.” Instead of doing that, they used the internet as a replacement for having a life. It’s pretty obvious now to people that that doesn’t work.

    That trend is just not sustainable. Either people are gonna go back to the tried and true, where you actually develop things like an attention span and self-discipline and thick enough skin so you’re not going through life feeling perpetually offended (that must be a delight)…or things will come to an end sooner than later.

    I think people are resilient enough that they can recognize the harm that’s been done and get back to doing what works – living in a way that produced a better quality of life for people. Physical and mental health problems were less prevalent back in the second half of the 20th century.

    We just have a very soft culture now. Look at the opiate epidemic of the 90s. That was a warning shot that our culture was getting soft. Opiate based painkillers has been around since WWII but there was no epidemic in the 40s. There was no opiate epidemic in the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s either.

    People had some will and some discipline and if the doctor said take one every four hours, that didn’t mean take four, crush them up and snort them!

    Of course, these people often didn’t have the benefit of having a full time parent. When people started devaluing the stay at home parent, things went downhill quick. We saw the rise of moral relativism, where anything is justified as long as it gets you what you want as quickly and as easily as possible.

    I believe you’ll see the next generation go back to the tried and true. I think you’ll see them go back to developing attention spans and discipline and being more active and relying on the internet less. When that happens, people will go out more, we’ll finally get a decent club scene again and you’ll see the return of guitarists who have the dedication and the discipline to put in the time and effort to develop their own style.”


    • Up2snuff says:

      Zephir, the attention span was said to be reducing to between three and twenty minutes when I was a youngster and it was blamed on television and commercials and pop music. Thanks for the info that it is getting worse. Maybe I can get diagnosed as an OAP ADHD ‘sufferer’ and get extra State Benefits or some compo?


      • Zephir says:

        Easier just to eat yourself to morbid obesity like the ones down my road and you get a brand new SUV car on the motability scam.
        Even then with the car sitting there, they get Tesco to do free deliveries to their door


  23. AsISeeIt says:

    One finds oneself drawn to those little contradictions in the headlines – some might term then “glitches in the matrix” – small inconsistancies the appearance of which served to reinforce the notion that we can’t take media messaging as gospel. Mr AsISeeIt jumps on them like they were his catnip.

    The corporate advertising freebie sheet Metro screams: Gove: This isn’t Tory – referring of course to the proposed cut in the 45p top rate of income tax.

    Representative of the present socio-political conventional settlement amoung most politicians of all stripes that over a certain level of salary the State ought to take roughly half of one’s earnings to do with as the State sees fit.

    There’s also National Insurance to consider which is Income Tax in all but name since sadly that tax is not hypothicated: NI is used as successive governments’ tax increase of choice because of a widespread and mistaken belief that it is a direct payment to the NHS (Public Matters) – in fact since NHS care and attention is (theoretically at least) available on a non contributory basis to all and sundry who happen to rock up in this country and manage to grab the attention of a quack, it really is a moot point whether the tax we all pay is ring fenced for our health care or not. The word insurance is an absolute canard. I diverge from the job in hand…

    The Guardian deploys some quote marks in their headline today – perhaps implying their wording is the more precise: Tories threaten rebellion as Gove says tax plan is ‘not Conservative’

    At least we seem to be agreed Toryism and conservatism are two different things – mind you, the Guardian took care to use Conservative with a big ‘C’. So whether the mercurial Michael said Tory or Conservative it could be argued both terms properly implied the political party in the blue rosettes.

    There’s a further twist. If we assume the Guardian felt the partizan need to put the rather loaded epithet ‘Tories’ at the start of their attention grabbing headline, then to quote Gove as saying such and such isn’t Tory in the same line would sound tired and repetitous.

    By similar logic the giveaway Metro in their four four-letter word tabloidese screamer (the word ‘isn’t’ technically being a four letter contraction of two words) would likely prefer to use the term Tory for style aesthetic reasons over the ponderous political party moniker Conservative.


  24. Doublethinker says:

    What is happening to Truss is yet another example of the power of the liberal internationalists to defenestrate any leader who displeases them or threatens their complete hegemony of the West. It will be interesting to see if Meloni starts to govern on the policies she campaigned on how long she will last.

    In the US the Republican candidate , whoever that turns out to be, is going to win the 2024 Presidential race , will be subjected to concerted efforts to take them out by the coordinated assault of the MSM, FBI and the rest of the deep state.

    How many more democratically elected anti globalist governments are going to be forced to abandon the policies that they were elected on , or be deposed, before the electorate wake up and refuse to support anything which smells of globalism?

    The Canadian truckers, the Dutch farmers , the Sri Lankans and even the energy protesters in Germany , are all showing politicians that there are a lot of votes to be had by standing up to globalists and sticking to your guns when they try to shut you up.

    Any politician who is going to take on the globalists and win needs to advise the voters that it will a rough ride , the MSM, social media , even law enforcement will be playing dirty tricks and spewing a never ending stream of lies .

    Politics is now a battle between the people and the globalists and their minions and dupes. They have the power ,we have the numbers.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Double – it’s a bit of that – but it is also plain financial incompetence – self inflicted dumbness – eg – no OBR report …

      .. why not just do the fuel subsidy and leave it at that and do taxes later –
      Be ‘strong and stable ‘ for ‘hard working families ‘ and ‘fixing the roof while there’s a storm ‘….


      • Doublethinker says:

        Truss is just the current UK example of a leader is just a little out of step being deposed. Trump was at war with the globalists and unfortunately lost , at least lost round one, a rematch might be on the cards.
        Meloni is the next challenger to the globalist hegemony. Let us hope that she wins a few rounds before they knock her out.
        As to Truss , anyone who wants more immigrants unless they genuinely have skills and abilities which we are short of , has lost my vote. Truss would probably be not too objectionable to the globalists but they believe that they can soon get her replaced by Starmer , a fully paid up Globalist , who will be totally compliant with their agenda.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Double – one reason they wanted to get rid of the useless nut nut ( Alexander boris johnsonski) was because of the affection some people had for him – that precious ‘benefit of the doubt ‘.

          Truss will never have either of those features …. A kind of miserable Gordon brown type …


  25. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC has been telling us how – in the Brazilian election – the polls have consistently said the lefty will win .

    Now after the election – which I understand was a draw – an ‘expert ‘ pops up and says that this shows –

    1 – people don’t trust pollsters
    2 – poles don’t have authority any more
    3- people voting ‘right ‘ think the pollsters are lefty biased …
    4- people decline to tell the pollsters the ‘truth ‘ that they are going to vote ‘right ‘…

    … repeat ….


  26. Charlie Farley says:

    I do hope all those at the BBC on more than £150k are pleased they will be paying more Tax …..personally I think it should be 60% and that would make them even happier !


    • Up2snuff says:

      CF, in the present circumstances – and with some millionaires calling for higher taxes on income (according to the BBC and other sources) – I would have introduced ‘a Denis Healey band’ of 60% or even 70% on incomes over £240,000.


      • Northern Dreamer says:

        I would introduce a voluntary scheme for anyone who wishes to pay more tax to the treasury, and the names of the donors and amount donated be available to public inspection.
        I will be looking for Nick Robinson and other usual suspects to be on it……


        • Up2snuff says:

          ND, good idea! It doesn’t exist at the moment because HMRC operate under a strict code of ‘we only collect the tax that is legally due’; there used to be a ‘firewall’ too, between the Inspector of Taxes and the Collector of Taxes. There exists an alternative option: you can make a voluntary gift to the Exchequer for the reduction of the public debt. No bad thing in itself.


        • StewGreen says:

          You dimwits, Of course you can choose to voluntarily pay more tax than the normal rate.
          It doesn’t need any new laws.


          • StewGreen says:

            only a few people do apparently
            £200K total 5years ago


          • Up2snuff says:

            Not so, Stew. You need to talk to the Inland Revenue, an Inspector of Taxes will put you right. Think you are the dimwit. BTW, take a like off your post, I put it there by mistake. Oh, maybe I am a dimwit after all 🙁 …. .

            Fed to the rescue?


    • Doublethinker says:

      How about anyone working for the state pays 75% on every pound they ‘earn’ over 50 k and their pensions cease to be inflation proof.


  27. Fedup2 says:

    Robinson v superficially coloured

    Post match report –
    An underwhelming outgoing chancellor failed to stand up to the bullying onslaught of the Robinson attacks – even though Robinson played his usual ‘apologise ‘ or ‘consider your position ‘ tactics .

    The outgoing chancellor may fear a post match drugs test because he sounded like he was on Valium or similar anti anxiety medication ….

    I had toast for breakfast – the outgoing chancellor is toast .

    One day someone will deck Robinson –


  28. StewGreen says:

    9am Radio4 The advertise your new book show
    Since it’s the Tory party conference they have two people with anti-Tory books to sell
    Strangely the other two guests are not selling books.

    – Isabel Hardman is a Tory brought on for balance

    – An Italian film director is on so they can say this
    “As the *far-right* leader Giorgia Meloni is set to become the country’s first female prime minister”

    blurb “Adam Wagner, Isabel Hardman, Tim Bale and Annalisa Piras discuss whether Britain’s parliamentary democracy is under threat and how it compares to Italy, with Kirsty Wark”


    • StewGreen says:

      Annalisa Piras is probably antifa type
      She was on a 2018 panel
      “Is there a way to fight the resurgence of nationalism?”

      And said this in the BBC News Channel
      « Britain has lost sight of what sort of country it is or what it wants to be.
      Italy is no better but the EU does know what it wants to achieve and is a stabilising factor. »


    • StewGreen says:

      The blurb didn’t say Isabel Hardman does have a book to plug
      her (2018), Why We Get the Wrong Politicians
      has just come out in paperback.


    • Doublethinker says:

      Isabel is a best a very pale blue Tory but shows plenty of signs of moving leftwards at increasing pace. Not to be trusted. She works for the Spectator which is similarly tacking leftwards as per the Telegraph.


  29. StewGreen says:

    News : the first voice after Kwasi they brought on was Ed Davy ..to say Kwasi must resign

    Offwatt says SOME water companies have not made targets so next will have to reduce customer bills by £150m


    • Up2snuff says:

      The Prime Minister is First Lord of the Treasury and is totally responsible for matters fiscal. There’s not a lot of people that knows that …. . . .


  30. Fedup2 says:

    Today has finished

    Now wash your hands .

    When you listen to ex politicians and journos – you really get that this politics thing is just a ‘gotcha game ‘. It’s not about beliefs or anything deep or real – it’s a vacuous game ….

    But at least the £ is up for a bit …


  31. Guest Who says:

    XR has a division embedded in every bbc local new form of reporting news desk.

    They are utterly complicit in all these stunts.


    • taffman says:

      Not as bad as it looks. She is using methylated spirits for the stunt , it burns at a low temp .


    • MarkyMark says:

      Dear Winston Smith from the Memory Hole Department,

      Legal definition of genocide
      Genocide is defined in Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948) as “any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part1

      ; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and]

      forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”

      **imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group**

      They (Anti-natalists) believe humans shouldn’t have children. Who are the anti-natalists – and how far are they willing to push their ideas? {bbc.co.uk 13aug2019}

      UN on Genocide: imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

      BBC On Anti-natalists:They (Anti-natalists) believe humans shouldn’t have children.

      Terrorism: “Wouldn’t it just be better to blow a hole in the side of the earth and just have done with everything?”

      Seems your article might want to mention the UN definition of genocide and also mention it to the Anti-natalists.

      Mr H



  32. Fedup2 says:

    Interesting thread on twitter of south asian uber / bolt drivers offering water to lone female passesngers late at night .

    Can yoypu guess what happens next …?


    • Guest Who says:

      Labour MPs of diversity privately calling them Hoehipnols and publicly demanding they keep schtum so their cousins stay off the perp screens?


    • StewGreen says:

      “Drivers” what I found was a a Dominic Frisby thread about ONE driver
      and in the thread people point out facts
      #1 When you book a trip the driver is not secret
      Uber know which phone they are sending the booking to
      (Frisby now says some unknown third party booked the Uber for her
      Well how did she pay ? Handed money to a stranger ?)

      #2 Frisby’s example is both vague and old

      A girl was offered water, and luckily managed to get home before becoming unconscious.
      However they chose not to report the incident
      even after a second time .. the same driver opened by saying “hello sexy ladies” before doing the same trick of offering a bottle of water.

      Indeed why does Frisby not know if it was Uber or Bolt ?
      And why has he only just found they have a photo of the driver ?
      .. https://www.twitter.com/DominicFrisby/status/1576516499920994304

      The driver would just claim that girl was off her head on drink/drugs when he picked her up
      and he got unconscious through that.


  33. StewGreen says:

    R4 guest just said that there were OVER 200K Covid deaths in the UK

    I googled, it served up 207K citing Johns Hopkins

    whereas ONS actually have a tally of 178K
    which is within 28 days of test and some may have died later
    but AFAIK that includes WITH deaths. not just FROM deaths


  34. Zephir says:

    RE F2, this was shown clearly to the country when, in the middle of an international pandemic which could potentially have killed millions, the BBC used its favoured position during daily Govt briefings to play gotcha with those answering questions.

    Like a demented cross between a parrot and a dalek, that Keunsberg thing kept asking the same questions over and over without listening to the answers, asked, quite frankly, gormless, idiotic questions about things that had already been addressed and used any tactic she could to attack the Govt, over and over, day after day.

    It was embarrassing to watch a so called journalist display her, apparent, lack of understanding, who preferred the sound of her own voice over listening and digesting answers.

    She sounded like a thick kid in a maths lesson that just does not get it.


    • Guest Who says:

      At a time when the BBC should be emulating Joe Rogan, it is aping James O’Brien.

      Laura K, VD, Toenails, Husain, all competing the the lowest common denominator to see who can score a stupid hit for the cheap seats.

      The irony is Joe builds an appreciative audience, as these broadcast pygmies award each other fluffer trifles and try to acquire respect by constantly saying they are what they are not.


      • Terminal Moraine says:

        “when the BBC should be emulating Joe Rogan, it is aping James O’Brien”

        Well put GW. YouTube has some good Brian Walden interviews, it’s sad to see how far the art of the interview has regressed.


  35. andyjsnape says:

    Gabriels: From ‘harrowing’ American Idol to 2022’s most talked-about band

    Most talked about, apparently


  36. G says:

    Money theft.

    From the Bank of England: Bank Bailins and their execution. A ‘user-friendly’ guide to theft.




  37. StewGreen says:

    GabbyCabby UK : SIX Energy SCAMS To Watch Out For And How To Protect Yourself 😎


  38. StewGreen says:

    “BBC colleagues another great day for our campaigning.
    The last thing we wanted is a smooth Tory Party conference
    and now we have succeeded in putting a dark cloud over it
    drip drip drip we are on our road to making the UK reverse Brexit and rejoin the EU”


  39. Tabs says:

    BBC moderators in full biased mode again

    Make cannabis Class A drug, say Conservative police commissioners

    I cannot down vote any comments but I can upvote comments. All the top comments are in total disagreement with the police.


  40. Sluff says:

    Ahhhhh, Isn’t that nice?
    On Toady a nice juxtaposition.
    Sandwiched between negative coverage of the government and its national conference.

    A heartwarming story about a little boy diagnosed with cancer while in the womb.
    Our NHS heroes confirmed this. But then, thanks to whole genome sequencing it was shown the tumour was in fact benign.
    How convenient. The wonderful NHS set against the evil Tories.

    Not mentioned was the cost of whole genome sequencing and just how much of the annual public sector budget as a % we are going to allow the NHS to become.

    Our roads meanwhile shame many third world countries with our potholes and traffic jams, often deliberately created by the public transport zealots who run the asylum.


  41. Nibor says:

    “ the markets “ and ‘investors’

    BBC would you like inform us what these markets are , what they do and who runs them ?
    Why are they so good/ bad for the UK ?
    For how long have they had this affect on the UK and why ?

    Why should a government base all its economy on what the markets want ? Has the BBC asked the Labour Party if it’s happy that wealthy market traders dictate government policy rather than the electorate?
    When will this pernicious influence end ?

    As for investors, the country could give them a better return if it acted like a business . A business does not take in strangers it has no moral obligation to , house and feed them without checking them out , and would not have them on the premises if they turned out to be criminals.


    • MarkyMark says:

      In the lecture, Rand admonishes American businessmen for apologizing for capitalism and for, in some cases, directly funding detractors of the free market. Notably, she says that “It is a moral crime to give money to support your own destroyers.” She also answers audience questions after the lecture.


  42. Terminal Moraine says:

    Did anyone see Putin’s anti-west speech on Friday? Strong stuff (worth reading) but strange how little coverage it’s picked up in the MSM.

    The nationalist/facist/strongman/madman is such a cosy, reliable target I fully expected the BBC and the Guardian to have all their ‘experts’ and cappucino columnists talking up the dangerous rhetoric. But silence.

    “… total de-sovereignisation is in their interest” … “aggression towards independent states, traditional values and authentic cultures” … “destructive policies, wars and plunder that have unleashed today’s massive wave of migrants…”

    Rather than give Putin’s comments airtime, looks like it’s being glossed over. I suspect our internationalist media have decided to give it coverage would potentially open too many cans of worms. Focus on strategic/political lines, and brush the broader ideological and cultural clashes we see on a daily basis under the carpet.



    • Fedup2 says:

      Bloody hell – started reading it – but don’t bother – it’s just hitler style rant . If he’s gonna go nuclear can he please do it sooner than than later because it’s boring . Or someone drop him out of a Kremlin window in that peace loving Russian Way .

      Shame we can’t deal with Russia militarily – Patton was right in 1945 …


    • Sluff says:

      It could be argued that Putin is fiercely patriotic.
      He might be a muddle-headed madman as you describe, wanting to blow us all up. But he could be defined as patriotic.

      And being patriotic is the very last thing the BBC want anyone to be. This could explain the silence.


      • StewGreen says:

        What has Patriot Putin done for Russians ?
        – his soldier to die in thousands
        – loss of freedom to Russians
        – Caused Russias oil/gas income to increase in the short term
        – Accelerated EU’s move away from Russian imports


  43. Sluff says:

    BBC narrative this morning.
    Government reverses 45% tax cut. Pound goes up against dollar. Inference – the market supports the cancellation.

    Pound is now exactly where it was last Friday.
    Inference – biased BBC narrative this morning.


  44. MarkyMark says:

    Nationalise Football – every ticket £1.
    All sports cars to be turned into public transport.

    Gary Neville to back campaign.


    • Sluff says:

      Compare and contrast.

      FTSE 100 CEOs, senior finance on £3 m pa. ‘Greedy bankers bordering on the immoral who are vastly overpaid’

      Premier League footballers on £3m pa. A choice of ‘the boy done well’, near silence, or ‘he serves a big pay rise’.


  45. andyjsnape says:

    Chris Mason: Government’s U-turn won’t be forgotten


    Next, bBC overturns latest government


  46. JohnC says:

    From the BBC’s ‘live feed’ running at fever pitch as they sense they might be able to topple a duly elected government as well as remove PM’s they hate.

    Here we get a glimpse of why the whole leadership election was rigged to put Truss in No 10. Now the BBC sense they can go evern further and actually get Labour back in:

    Former cabinet minister Nadine Dorries has suggested the prime minister should call an election.

    Dorries said there was “widespread dismay” at Truss for failing to act on plans laid out by Boris Johnson’s government.

    “Widespread dismay at the fact that three years of work has effectively been put on hold.

    “No one asked for this. C4 (Channel 4) sale, online safety, BBC licence fee review, all signed off by Cabinet all ready to go, all stopped.

    “If Liz wants a whole new mandate, she must take to the country.”

    That whole column is quite amazing : the BBC have given up any pretence at all of impartiality. They are going for the juggular.

    One might wonder why they are still running it as the main headline even though the original ‘objective’ about the higher rate tax has now gone.

    Exactly what they did to Boris. When on story goes cold, they just invent another. And another. Then it becomes obvious it wasn’t about the tax at all.


    • Fedup2 says:

      From my limited exposure to Dorries – she doesn’t seem to have clarity of thought .

      Truss had a week to call an election but the country was in mourning so could not .

      Now the mistake – picked an idiot and / or corrupt? Chancellor and should go just on that ….

      The economy is about to head south as energy bills and interest rates go up – inflation is out of control – the bank is too slow pushing up rates – the 3rd of November has to be 1% although banks and building societies are already doing it .

      They might as well wait as long as they can and hope something changes in the energy supply and Russia …I understand constituency borders are changing which could give the blue labour types 10 seats .who cares ?

      I can’t see a reason for voting for anyone


      • JohnC says:

        Looks to me like Liz has been done up like a kipper.

        Replace Boris with someone way out of their depth then destroy the whole party.

        The problem is : how can any PM fight back when the whole weight of the mammoth BBC and it’s budget of billions is doing their absolute best to destroy them ?. Where is OFCOM ?.

        These are dark times for democracy. The Left have infested all these organisations and are now making their move.


    • andyjsnape says:

      Hello JohnC, maybe something to do with the sponsorship the bBC receive previously from the eu (not sure if they still get millions from them these days) – although still favourable reporting the beeb gives them

      Overturn the government and let labour in


  47. andyjsnape says:

    UK at significant risk of gas shortages this winter, warns energy regulator

    Maybe this is the actual reason that prices have gone up, to put people off using energy


  48. moggie63 says:

    Why are they just blaming Liz? Every person in government over the last 30 years is responsible, to some degree, for flushing this country down the toilet.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Moggie, despite their (BBC) protesting over the summer and complaints about the lengthy (but more democratic than Labour) Conservative leadership election, the BBC now want to get rid of Liz Truss as PM. Expect more anti-Truss measures from the BBC in future.

      PS. Liz Truss is responsible as PM for all tax matters. Please see my post above.


      • Kaiser says:

        and now they know how weak she is , they will try and make her U-turn on anything they dont like


  49. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – You would think the Montcutie might have winced a bit and pointed out the fallacy

    Fed, “From my limited exposure to Dorries – she doesn’t seem to have clarity of thought.” She is not the only one, Fed. The Montacutie could not get to interview the person she hoped for so the Conservatives put forward a junior Minister in the Cabinet Office. Typical Tory thick plank. Believes that if you cut the top rate of tax you get more money in.

    No, you do not. There’s evidence for that following the Osborne/Javid Budget of twothousand and twiddlyho. Treasury receipts actually fell; there was no increase. If nothing changes when you cut tax rates, especially at the top, you get less money coming in to the Exchequer.

    What this thick Tory plank did not understand is that if you cut taxes, as a Government you become a hostage to fortune. You have to hope that suddenly people will become more honest and stop fiddling their taxes or that they stop off-shoring their earnings and wealth or that they look at their accountant’s bill and think ‘It’s not worth it’ and they just declare all the income that they might have otherwise ‘exported’.

    Sarah Montague famously came unstuck, along with some other Beeboids, when the HMRC were leaned on by HMT to ‘get more in’ because she had been trying to claim that she wasn’t employed by the BBC and used a service company to avoid NI. Quite legal if you get it approved by HMRC up front and can demonstrate that you are employed by others but if not, you lose the Court case and pay a lawyer & accountant and all the back tax.


  50. StewGreen says:

    Re History Debunked’s new video about Nigerian student Aisha Akinola
    who came to study in Edinburgh and has written an article saying it’s a crisis cos the course had no black teacher
    and no other students on it were black female Muslims.

    There are a lot of crazy white British people in UK, but they are discussed freely
    it’s just that media tend to look away from criticising black loons, so people send material to HD

    I note last year she took a year off studying

    by”Aisha Akinola becomes the first African to become a Sabbatical Officer at the University of Edinburgh, Scotland.
    She currently serves as the Vice President, Welfare in the Scottish University’s Student Association.”
    In June she was described as “undergraduate scholar”

    bio : “Akinola Aisha Janki @AishaJanki
    Black Muslim Woman in Architecture.
    The next Le Corbusier of Africa.
    *Climate Change activist*, content creator, poet, writer
    | Director/Founder of The Black Ed Movement
    | Associate Consultant at Advance HE
    | Strategic Advisor & Speaker on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion
    | Entrepreneur
    “She started her journey towards becoming a global citizen after securing a scholarship to study at the African Science Academy in Ghana.
    Hungry for more knowledge, she was awarded the prestigeous Mastercard Foundation scholarship to study architecture at the University of Edinburgh”


    Growing up, I simply wanted to be an architect. However, moving to Edinburgh to officially start my architecture education, I soon realised I was no longer simply Aisha the aspiring architect, I was now Aisha, the ‘Black Muslim Woman’ architect because there wasn’t any other student there with a similar background to mine.

    To make matters worse, there wasn’t a single black tutor, let alone a Muslim one. And each time I explained my design concepts during a critique, I had to work harder to make the tutors understand where I was coming from.

    I soon became curious about the reason for this lack of diversity, and the more I looked, the more I discovered the hidden flaws in the field of architecture.