301 Responses to Start the Week 3 October 2022

  1. Zephir says:

    I quote:

    “Here is a thought experiment that you can do at home. See if you can find any politician in your country (or any other country come to think of it) in the last 20 years who has proposed an economic policy based upon “trickle down economics”. Go ahead and have I’ll look. I’ll wait.

    Back already? Did you find any?

    I thought not.

    “Trickle down economics” is not, and never has been a thing. It was actually originally created as a joke concept by a humorist Will Rogers in the 1930s. And there it might have remained, but some astute politicians saw the opportunity to use it as a “straw man” argument. Hence, you will never ever hear politicians arguing for trickled down economics. But you will frequently hear them thundering against it. The fact that nobody is seriously suggesting it doesn’t slow them down in the least – arguing against it sounds good, and they hope that people listening will just assume that others are arguing for it, or even imposing it.

    But they really aren’t.”

    Humorist Will Rogers jokingly advised in a 1932 column:

    This election was lost four and six years ago, not this year. They [Republicans] didn’t start thinking of the old common fellow till just as they started out on the election tour. The money was all appropriated for the top in the hopes that it would trickle down to the needy. Mr. Hoover was an engineer. He knew that water trickles down. Put it uphill and let it go and it will reach the driest little spot. But he didn’t know that money trickled up. Give it to the people at the bottom and the people at the top will have it before night, anyhow. But it will at least have passed through the poor fellow’s hands. They saved the big banks, but the little ones went up the flue.

    William J. Bennett wrote:

    Humorist Will Rogers referred to the theory that cutting taxes for higher earners and businesses was a “trickle-down” policy, a term that has stuck over the years.

    Presidential speechwriter Samuel Rosenman wrote:

    The philosophy that had prevailed in Washington since 1921, that the object of government was to provide prosperity for those who lived and worked at the top of the economic pyramid, in the belief that prosperity would trickle down to the bottom of the heap and benefit all”

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    • StewGreen says:

      I used to live on a foreign island full of new shipyards, oil rig fabrication yards and factories etc.
      Then I went to Newcastle
      where most of their old industry is now housing estates.

      That country is growing its economy
      whilst we grow our borrowing
      That new wealth in that country is trickling down to the people there.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Z, Reagan and Thatcher.

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  2. Fedup2 says:

    Up2
    I can’t understand where the drive to drop the 45% rate at all . As I wrote before – the way things have been – why not leave taxes alone until the effect of the energy subsidy had been running a for say 3 months ?

    I’ve written here before that from my exposure to the upper civil servants and politicians these people are often mediocre and not that clever . Truss and the kwasi demonstrate this .

    Their main talent seems to be to speak – but often they are defending indefensible positions .

    As I write I’m watching the BBC news which is full of project fear gas shortages nicely timed to derail the Tory conference even more .

    The morality of BBC types pretending they are above tax avoidance is unseemly but demonstrates their morality too .

    They are detached wealthy people talking down to the plebs mug enough to pay for them . Dump the licence.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Anyone who pays 45% tax is an idiot
      most probably pay an accountant to sort a work around out eg half their salary is paid out in their spouse’s name etc.

      Abolishing the high tax sends a signal
      “we are getting rid of red tape”
      and cuts out the waste of using creative accountant tricks.

      It’s entirely possible that the pretend-conservatives wanted an excuse to keep big socialist policies locked in, so deliberately pretended to want a tax reform knowing that there’d be a backlash.
      Just like their Rwanda policy.

      Mega taxes for the high earners
      is just “the politics of envy” Corbyn stuff.
      I don’t think it’s fair to tax people at different rates.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, this is a reply to your post @2.27 p.m. on 3rd Oct but site software has dumped it here.

      Fed, it was obvious in the media franzy (non-deliberate spelling mistake but I’ll leave it in as it suits so well) over a somewhat artificial ‘the-cost-of-living-crisis’ and in the Labour Party crisis of a big loss of the ‘Red Wall’ to the Tories that doing what Thatcher and Howe did in 1979 would cause LeftMob to erupt in the media.

      It may also be something of a media myth that taxes are at their highest for 70 years. I think they were higher in the Thatcher administration era and Mrs T found it very hard to reduce them below 40% and keep the State Social Spend going.

      It is a very big Tory dogma: ‘high taxes = bad, very bad’ from the Macmillan, Douglas-Home, Heath and Thatcher/Reagan governments era. It is still embedded in the Conservative and Republican Parties to this day as evidenced here by Osborne/Javid and in the USA, Donald Trump. To an extent, it is a correct dogma/doctrine. The mistake many Conservative/Republican Party people make is to cut the high taxes first. The UK economy is now a strongly retail based one and that is driven by the mass of the population, not the 1%. The same is true of SMEs, they come from the 99% not from the 1% which is a generalisation and has exceptions. The US economy is slightly different to the UK but is probably now broadly similar.

      Initially in her bid to win the leadership Truss was just promising to reverse the NI increase, possibly to have a dig at her predecessor, possibly to try and cosy up to the media who had complained bitterly about the NI increase. Liz Truss is, apparently, now shamefully trying to blame her Chancellor for slashing the Top Rate back to 40% despite the fact that she is responsible for all tax matters. It was obviously a bad tactical move to cut the Top Rate. Especially without a big plan to do something about the big State spend that we now have in the UK. I was hoping for a plan.

      Liz Truss is just like a man without a plan, a woman without a plan. Will she be ‘rescued’, like Margaret Thatcher, by Putin playing the part of a Gen. Galtieri?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2
        It’s beyond me . I don’t recall any discussion or drive to cut that 45% upper rate ( I pay basic now ) …. So why put it up front . ?
        I understand that the income from that 5% was 2 billion a year – in the scheme of things not worth the political and economic market damage.

        Cutting the basic rate is welcome – but again due to the global situation the announcement was premature . Surely if I’m just applying common sense truss and co would see the sheer dumbness …

        The subsidising of energy bills is now a ‘nothing ‘ despite the shedload of borrowed money – hiking of market interest rates and huge debt repayments …..

        I see no difference between PM and chancellor – they are jointly responsible ….

        By the way – I am watching the retail £ € and it’s recovering – from €1.09 to the £ to €1.13 this morning – which makes a slight real difference ….

        I just hope she sticks with cutting welfare but the likes of traitor andrew Mitchell will make the usual socialist pleb noises ….

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, the Conservatives are probably missing Cain and Cummings in No.10. They would have confronted the new PM over how things would look to the media and voters.

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  3. Guest Who says:

    The BBC is the problem.

    An actual Shadcab bloater dobbs herself in breaking the law after trashing anyone who is proud of their country, and she is quietly forgiven again.

    But a spotty Herbert offers a snark opportunity… that is essentially accurate….

    The answer is no.

    And never apologise.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Guido published that story 9:30am Sunday so the BBC is late

      The guy is chair of an independent group “The Young Conservatives Network”

      and despite his claim that he only said it was a dump cos someone had just tried to mug him.
      He has formFd_GCtmXkAE6Cy_?format=jpg&name=small

      However it was free speech
      until the Conservative West Midlands Mayor decided to sneer at him on Twitter.
      That was bullying
      Didn’t need to be done in public.
      That just hurt his own side.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      6. “…however, there have been some errm tabloids and some errrm news that has gone out, as we are all aware that has been misinformation. Things such as Birmingham is the Jihadist capital of the England, that’s not helpful unless it’s backed up by evidence..(shrugs head as Douglas injects with …)”
      “It is … it’s not actually the capital but the second capital (39) , London (117) is the capital. (for UK Jihadists)”
      Islamist-Terrorism-preview – henryjacksonsociety.org (pdf)

      * note that some of the videos are blocked on youtube, but you can search and find them on vimeo.

      https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2017/07/05/mid-week-open-thread-117/#comment-849958

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    • tomo says:

      Is there still ca. 100 rough sleepers being fed by charities beside the Moor Street Queensway car park every evening?

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        This is clearly misinformation. If we had homelessness and rough sleepers in this country, we wouldn’t be running a ferry service in the Channel to bring in 1,000 (mainly) young men each day, then put them up in hotels at the taxpayers expense. Any government that allowed such a thing would be guilty of extreme incompetence and/or corruption beyond imagination.

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  4. BRISSLES says:

    I believe I mentioned earlier on this site, how I wasn’t filled with confidence when Kwasimodo was installed as Chancellor. My gaze turned to African states. So this latest cock up, doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. We’ve had a diverse selection of Chancellors and none of them have made a good fist of it. Isn’t it time to ditch the office per se, and install a board of professional money men who know what they’re talking about. The Treasury is too big a department for one person to be responsible and in charge, no matter how many civil servants are involved.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Brissles, my dear old thing: what about Rishi? He did pretty well with a ropey old First Lord of the Treasury who had his mind on other things such as Greeks, Romans, wallpaper, Greco-Roman wallpaper (a.k.a. tiles) and Covid-19. Had I had a vote, I would have voted for Rishi.

      Of course, the BBC would be attacking him over his millionaire wife and billionaire Father-in-Law but you would not have had the chaos of the last ten days.

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      • Scroblene says:

        Timing is everything, the ‘mini budget’ came out in time for Starmer to fart around with his third-formers! They spent the week whingeing about it, and now Liz has just said they’ll forget the 45% rate stoppage, in fact, the timing was ‘wrong’!

        Like Hell!

        Brilliant really, it kept the Guardian and the BBC on their little pointy toes, and they just plonked around as usual, trying to make up a ‘story’!

        Luckily we never listen to or watch the BBC, so I glance at their website for a few seconds every two or three days, just to make sure they’re following their normal useless path!

        C’mon Liz, the world’s your lobster! (Arfur Daley)!

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  5. Guest Who says:

    From the publication run by a gaggle of blonde cougars The BBC can’t get enough of…

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  6. Thoughtful says:

    Here is a link to letter sent by Ofcom on 30th September which will almost certainly hit the news later today:

    https://www.elexon.co.uk/documents/change/modifications/p451-p500/p448-urgency-decision-letter/

    In essence is it confirming the UK is going to suffer blackouts this winter as it cannot provide enough gas to run the power stations, and if the windmills don’t turn the blackouts are going to be potentially widespread and long lasting.

    Due to the war in Ukraine and gas shortages in Europe, there is a significant risk that gas shortages could occur during the winter 2022/23 in Great Britain (‘GB’). As a result, there is a possibility that GB could enter into a Gas Supply Emergency.

    If a Gas Supply Emergency occurs, the Gas System Operator (‘GSO’), in close cooperation with the Network Emergency Coordinator (‘NEC’), will take action in accordance with the Gas Safety Management Regulations4 to address a significant gas safety concern and follow the procedure for a network gas supply emergency. In the event that GB reaches Stage 2
    in this procedure, Firm Load Shedding of gas would be applied to the largest gas users
    connected to the gas system. This will likely be large gas-fired power stations which
    produce electricity to the National Electricity Transmission System (‘NETS’).

    Make of it what you will, but it is yet another confirmation of what is coming this Winter

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    • Up2snuff says:

      T, we have back up generation for balancing the Grid. Not a very large output so you may get those forecast blackouts. In addition, the environmentalists will not like it being used: oil powered diesel generators. Ooops! Start digging that coal.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        Apparantly the BBC have been doing an expose on the ridiculous bio fuel Drax uses raping Canadian forests just for politicians to claim they are doing something ‘Green’.

        Personally I’d like to see Drax move back to coal and leave the forests & wildlife be

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        • Ian Rushlow says:

          Rather curious item by the BBC. Clearly there is nothing green about cutting down trees on the other side of the world, processing them into woolen pellets, transporting them across the ocean on diesel powered container ships, then moving them by train from Liverpool to Drax, where they are burned. In fact, it’s as bogus as constructing windmills, manufacturing solar cells or liquefying gas and transporting that across the ocean. But criticism of green matters is normally verboten at the BBC, so they must have some agenda and motive…

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          • Wild Bill says:

            A few years ago a company were proposing turning a gas power station (right next door to a Morecambe bay gas terminal) into one burning wood pellets from the USA, at a public meeting that I attended they were shot down on the questions of how could it be green?
            They were also going to have trucks daily taking the ash away from the site, it was cancelled.

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          Thoughtful:

          I agree. Burn the trees that died 60 million years ago, not last week.

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        • StewGreen says:

          It’s as if Canadian activists have handed BBC Panorama a dossier
          and BBC have sent a reporter there for 2 days to take a few video shots speaking to the activists
          and now the dossier has “BBC Report” stamped on the front.
          #Churnalism #PR

          In the preview video the land looks close to open grassland.
          and not really like huge trees of actual primary forest.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      How come there’s never any news stores about Asian countries and the energy price rise?
      Say along the lines – Chinese women having to choose between ciggies and having the air-con on 24/7.

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  7. brexiteerkent says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-63115978

    Knife fight involving large group of men outside Coventry Mosque kills one.

    Don`t worry, it was just an “Isolated dispute” no cause for concern apparently. Probably one of those mostly peaceful knife fights.

    Wonder how long this will stay up on the very local Warwickshire news pages before it is buried completely…

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  8. Guest Who says:

    The young lady holding the mic Laura K and Toenails’ love child?

    https://therightscoop.com/gov-desantis-pushes-back-on-cnn-reporter-trying-to-create-controversy-over-hurricane-ian-video/

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  9. s.trubble says:

    King Charles is visiting Dunfermline in Scotland on the occasion of it being granted City status.

    Krankie preceded him at the town hall and arrived to a chorus of booing.

    Folks must have been reading the latest on her ” Ferries Scandal) where the latest cost estimate has risen “330 odd £million…from the original contracted cost of £97 million.

    I suppose this might be described as a trial version of Brigadoonomics .

    I had a quick look through the website of the ill – fated SNP ferries quango ( CMAL) and noted a photograph from 2017 where a faux launch of 1 of the ferries contained the beaming Krankie with her Transport Minister.

    I went back a day later ( Friday 30/9) and noticed the vessel was in the water but unaccompanied by the phote of the 2 SNP operatives.

    Can only imagine that CMAL who are at the centre of the “rigged”
    Procurement process have been told from SNP Comms central
    to,,,” get these photos to **ck. or equivalent.

    The waste bucket of SNP Devolution is fair totting up to an alarming extent to be borne by the Scottish and UK taxpayer.

    Why its not been temporarily suspended or put in special measures is possibly down to the farce the Conservatives
    have created around themselves.

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  10. Fedup2 says:

    Dipping into the coverage ( not bbc )of the Tory conference it looked like the punters are in mourning – and if MPs don’t turn up to their own Conference – they just add another nail to that party’s coffin ….
    But imagine a Labour Cabinet …

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  11. dafydd says:

    No matter what this Government does it will be never be good enough for the BBC.

    We could have the greatest economy in the world, still not good enough for the BBC.

    What angers me most about the BBC and the left they will do there upmost to get there beloved Labour elected, even if it means dragging and constantly talking this country down, even if there’s sod all to moan about…

    Mind you, crapping on your own door step doen’t help.. The Tories will never learn and only have themselves to blame if not elected next time..With the help of the MSM of course

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    • taffman says:

      Why should the people of Great Britain be forced to fund the outfit ?
      Scrap the Telly Tax. It robs from the poor to give to the rich.

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  12. taffman says:

    \\Ancient footprints reveal ‘Irish Sea Serengeti’//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63036911

    Have I missed something ? What’s the story got to do with “Serengeti”?

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      That’s easy. Serengeti is in Africa. People in Africa are black. Cheddar man, the very first Briton ever, was black. Ergo, any land around Britain is really Africa i.e. Serengeti. Because Britain is Africa, it follows that as many black Africans as possible should come and live here. Something like that. Er, Follow the Science (c).

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42939192

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    • StewGreen says:

      Yes strange to evoke the Savannah when it was 9,000 years ago
      Yes millions of years ago sometimes Britain was tropical but 9,000 years ago seems unlikely it was
      ..

      The take away global warming line at the end is
      “those environments are threatened by rapid sea-level rise now, so there are lessons we can learn about how habitats can become degraded and disconnected”

      At the start they said
      9,000 years to 1,000 years old.

      These findings, ..tell the story of a coastal environment that transformed over thousands of years, *as sea levels rapidly rose* ”
      ..So sea levels “rapidly rose” with manmade CO2 then

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  13. Guest Who says:

    The current political estate, of all sides, is woeful.

    I am sure some are ok folk, but most seem thick, venal, or both.

    That said, I could not despise the media estate that has created them more.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Truss should have asked her how many Mars bars she eats a day, it would make as much sense.

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      • Guest Who says:

        She should have told the smug slob it was not a question, or interview, and to try one.

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  14. StewGreen says:

    ITV local newsPR campaigning
    Normally they have no interest in Rotherham
    but now “He we are at Rotherham United for #BlackHistoryMonth”

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  15. StewGreen says:

    It’s White Guilt month
    says Laurence Fox in a brilliant speech as we should stop dividing society into groups and giving them special month

    Interesting that the the show is Farage’s the Reform Party founder,
    but Laurence Fox leader of Reclaim Party is now the covering presenter
    and his guest is Heritage Party leader David Kurten
    and another guest is a mixed race woman

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    • StewGreen says:

      Female guest was Sofia Strachan who does education to stop Teenage Pregnancy etc.

      If you are white heterosexual older male
      basically every month is your GUILT month

      guest Lord X says these months and attitudes build walls, when we should be building bridges

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  16. Guest Who says:

    And a dfs sofa…

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    • StewGreen says:

      Bolton was intimidated into deleting his tweet
      Doh all he was saying is that ethnic Muslims aren’t even 5% of the UK population yet Sky gave their graphic family Muslims names.
      I’m sure some Muslim doctor families earn £90K but hardly the typical family

      FeK30P0WABYLyei?format=jpg&name=small

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  17. StewGreen says:

    Panorama “Drax is set to get £billions more from the taxpayer”

    BBC reporter doesn’t understand the billions do NOT come from taxes
    They mostly apart from a few grants come from forcing electric corps to prioritise buying “green power”
    Thus at the end, energy consumers pay the subsidies.

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  18. StewGreen says:

    GBnews played a video clip of @Mike_Fabricant being hounded by protesters
    eg playing a loud hailer in his ear.

    He says the cops first kettled anti-Tory protesters
    and then directed him into the kettled area
    and the mob assumed he was invading their territory.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Attention seeker femi joking about Terrorist attacks
    against the Tories
    .. He’s not been ratioed yet
    .. https://www.twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1576848901360865280

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  20. Jeff says:

    Well, I can’t say I’m surprised because I didn’t have much faith in Truss to begin with. I think she’s pathetic. She’s fallen at the very first hurdle. Bottled it at the first sign of a problem. Hopeless, gutless and spineless…

    Last week she was eaten alive by a couple of local radio hacks. For the love of God, can you imagine Mrs Thatcher being humiliated in that way? Do me a favour, she’d have eaten them for breakfast.

    The Tories are in total disarray. The Uriah Heep of British politics, creepy Michael Gove, has slithered out from under his rock and dripped poison. That’s what this creature always does. Dopey Nadine Dorris wants an election…FFS, is she mad?

    I feel quite sorry for Kwasi. I think he’s a decent, honourable and highly intelligent bloke, who has been humiliated by his gutless boss.

    The government are in freefall…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Jeff
      Yes I got it wrong . As with those who voted for her .but I could never trust mr green card ….

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  21. Thoughtful says:

    For those people wonder why in economic terms Truss’s Socialist mini budget was so damaging here is a pretty good explanation, plus he also gets a nice dig in at the MSM, who have done a woeful job at explaining why, probably because they can’t sort of small White woman she bad.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful
      He expresses the sheer incompetence of the tories pretty easily . Terrifying ….

      … I guess if those 2 banks fail the Germans will bale them out – may the euro crash ……

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      Looked interesting but I only managed 3 minutes 😃, a pity he had to infantalise the presentation.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Eddy
        Yes I agree – but that seems to be the American style on YouTube – windy – slow – seldom to the point – no idea about the quality of the viewer .

        Anyone watching that would want basic – clever evidence – analysis – explanation – but it was worth it just to affirm that I was right and the treasury was wrong – and still is – those interest rates have to go up really soon and the pain taken .

        Happy Christmas .

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  22. Zephir says:

    Is that a famous Conservative quote ?

    “This spade is not for turning”

    or something ?

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  23. Thoughtful says:

    Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank both rumoured to be on the verge of collapse.

    The consequences of such a Lehman moment with players this size would be unthinkable.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful
      I saw the reference to credit suisse yesterday with more advice to get real physical money before there is ATM panic ….

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  24. Kaiser says:

    pension schemes panicked

    pensions heavily invested in government bonds

    pensions regulator makes sure they are

    you can trace this all back to the one eyed scottish morons r*ping and f**king over pension schemes

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  25. Guest Who says:

    Vile does get them on.

    Next up, the daft XR bint torches herself live?

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    • StewGreen says:

      The deleted Peter Pea tweet said
      this nurse doesn’t deserve to be paid by the @NHSuk #britainonthebrink #channel5 @channel5_tv

      It probably had a video of her
      Here’s a video https://www.twitter.com/DaleMit66677994/status/1577050989592383488

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Huh ! you can just picture it now, alongside the sign above the bed saying Nil By Mouth, Liquids Only, there will be DNR ….. Conservative Voter.

      Tory Councils could retaliate by putting a sign on disabled ramps saying No Entry for Labour Voting Wheelchair users.

      Some of the absurdities that comes out of the mouths of these thickos is beyond parody.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Maybe due to her excess obesity she should have treatment withheld in the event of illness.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Apparently Sundays Frozen Planet 2 featured
    ” little gay albatrosses”

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  27. Zephir says:

    Five years in jail for sending some tweets yet:

    “Twin sisters, 21, who ‘pummelled’ a reveller and punched her repeatedly in the head in horrific attack during a boozy night-out AVOID jail

    Sophie Wood and Katie Wood, then both 21, had been out in Manchester centre
    Their horrific attack left four woman with injuries to their faces, arms and legs

    Sophie Wood and Katie Wood, 21, had been out in Manchester city centre when Sophie barged into a group of girls.

    The girl she had bumped into replied telling her to ‘watch what you are doing’, which spurred a ‘disgraceful’ attack by the sisters who began to push and punch her.

    Four women were left with injuries to their faces, arms and legs during the attack.

    At one stage, Katie Wood took off her high-heeled shoe and repeatedly hit one girl on the head, Manchester Crown Court heard.

    But the sisters have managed to avoid jail, as judge recorder Searle said they had kept out of trouble since the offence, had no previous convictions and the attack seemed ‘wholly out of character’. ”

    Oh that’s all right then judge.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11276427/Twin-sisters-21-pummelled-girl-horrific-attack-night-AVOID-jail.html

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Obviously the injuries their victims suffered were nothing compared to hurting Jeremy Vines’ feelings.

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  28. Zephir says:

    “Norwich council sparks furious backlash from women’s rights group over ‘trans inclusion’ vote and tweet saying ‘transphobic extremists’ are ‘not welcome’

    Norwich City Council was criticised over its new ‘trans inclusion’ measure”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11275877/Norwich-council-sparks-furious-backlash-womens-rights-group-trans-inclusion-vote.html

    So some woke twat council officers are saying who is welcome or not ? were the people of Norwich consulted on this ?

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  29. Zephir says:

    Trump sues CNN for defamation and seeks $475 MILLION in damages for calling him a ‘racist’ and comparing him to Hitler in what he says will be the first of many lawsuits against the ‘fake news media’

    Trump filed lawsuit against CNN in federal court in Florida on Monday
    It accused the news organization of defamation and seeks $475M in damages
    It said CNN had stepped up its campaign against Trump in recent months ‘as CNN fears the plaintiff will run for president in 2024,’ reads the complaint

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Julia HB is there with her academic campaigning against Trump on this issue.

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  30. JohnC says:

    Confidence Man: Key revelations from new book on Donald Trump
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63125238

    Just look at this utter politically-motivated rubbish by the BBC. They have ‘cancelled’ Trump and don’t report anything positive about him at all. Yet this one makes the front page.

    Complete with the worst picture they could find (as usual).

    Among these huge-font headlines ?

    ‘Trump was scared of dying from Covid-19’

    ‘Trump came up with a taxes excuse on the fly’

    ‘Trump thought ethnic minority staffers were waiters’

    And the last line:

    ‘Haberman also documents a history of homophobic remarks allegedly uttered by Mr Trump.’

    And the source ?. Just another nobody trying to make money from a book.

    Absolutely pathetic. Meanwhile they completely ignore Bidens mental state and the fact such an incompetent person is in charge as we approach WW3.

    Heads at OFCOM should have been rolling since the Referendum.

    This is how the Left have ended up murdering so many millions throughout history. They think that their own ideological agenda is more important than truth.

    Any elections coming up by any chance ?.

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  31. Zephir says:

    Watch this video and wonder why blm want to defund the police:

    Woman brutally beaten in horrific subway attack slams woke NYC councilwoman – who backed defunding cops – for declaring ‘subway violence is a one in a million event’ even as attacks rise 43%

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11270337/Woke-NYC-councilwoman-backs-defunding-cops-blasted-constituent-attacked-subway.html?ito=chromelessDM_0

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  32. JohnC says:

    2 weeks later – and with the actual reason for their unhappiness now gone – the BBC are still attacking Truss with the same ferocity they went after Boris.

    And no reports of the Tory party conference. Contrast with the daily good-news articles they ran for for Labour.

    Instead they have not only kept the same ‘Call an election if you want to change course, Nadine Dorries tells Liz Truss’ on the front page for another day, they have also opened it for comments !!.

    And the comments are again a sight to behold. Unpleasant Lefties who don’t even try to conceal how much they hate the Tories.

    I almost laughed when I saw the comment ‘Dianne Abbott was / is pretty bad too.’ got more downvotes than upvotes.

    Our country is at an extreme low point thanks in no small part to the BBC’s campaign to get us back in the EU. But when OFCOM and the civil service all want to be back on that particular gravy train, how do we fight it ?.

    Boris won an election by a landslide – yet they still assasinated him.

    These are the times in history when great events happen. The UK and the USA are fractured right down the middle and all because of Leftist ideology. We are at our weakest and that is what has emboldened Putin to do what he is doing. Where will it end ?.

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  33. Zephir says:

    I agree about depressing news everywhere so:

    A man wakes up in the hospital, bandaged from head to toe.

    The doctor comes in and says, “Ah, I see you’ve regained consciousness. Now, you probably won’t remember, but you were in a pile-up on the motorway. You’re going to be okay, you’ll walk again and everything, but…
    Something happened. I’m trying to break this gently, but the fact is, your willy was chopped off in the wreck and we were unable to find it.”

    The man groans, but the doctor goes on, “You’ve got £9,000 in insurance compensation coming and we have the technology now to build you a new willy that will work as well as your old one did – better in fact! But the thing
    is, it doesn’t come cheap. It’s £1,000 an inch.”

    The man perks up at this. “So,” the doctor says, “It’s for you to decide how many inches you want. But it’s something you’d better discuss with your wife. I mean, if you had a five inch one before, and you decide to go for a nine incher, she might be a bit put out. But if you had a nine inch one before, and you decide only to invest in a five incher this time, she might be disappointed. So it’s important that she plays a role in helping you make the decision.”

    The man agrees to talk with his wife.

    The doctor comes back the next day. “So,” says the doctor, “have you spoken with your wife?”

    “I have,” says the man.

    “And what is the decision?” asks the doctor.

    “We’re having granite worktops”

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    • JohnC says:

      The secret to a marriage is compromise.

      The other day, I wanted to stay in and my wife wanted to go out.

      So we compromised. We went out.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      A funny joke, but not related to the BBC. I suggest altering the punchline to make it more relevant:

      The doctor comes back the next day. “So,” says the doctor, “have you spoken with your wife?”

      “I have,” says the man.

      “And what is the decision?” asks the doctor.

      “We decided that I will begin transitioning to a woman and we will continue living together, but as a lesbian couple. £8,000 will go on initial hormone treatment and dresses, with the remaining £1,000 sent to the Mermaids and Tavistock Clinic Defence Funds. Together we will smash the patriarchy!”

      “Stunning, brave”, replied the doctor, a locum working for the NHS on less than £2,500 a day.

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  34. Guest Who says:

    One aircraft stair away from still being carefully ignored by the BBC.

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  35. Guest Who says:

    Seems Springster and Justin are flying out to join Wendy.

    Sources claim.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Speaking of sources, the bbc gets in those who know.

      Probably.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        The usual lefty ‘Tory ‘ suspects – there will be no political for throwing more money at people who won’t be voting Tory anyway …

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  36. AsISeeIt says:

    Backtracking in a quiet oasis of news edition

    UK must not backtrack on climate goals, warns Cop27 host… The Egyptian government, host of the next UN climate summit, has warned the UK against “backtracking from the global climate agenda” (Guardian) – one always suspected the whole sustainable energy agenda was a bit of a pyramid scheme.

    Joking aside, should Britain really have to take advice from any old Fakhirs?

    Seriously, I do admire our Guardianistas’ absolutist single-minded absolute adherence to their belief in British-man-made climate change as the premier dire priority, necessitating – if necessary – alliance with the dubious Egyptian regime: In 2021, Freedom House ranked Egypt as “Not Free” in its annual Freedom in the World report. It gave Egypt a “Political Rights” score of 6/40 and a “Civil Liberties” score of 12/60, with a total score of 18/100. The same year, Reporters Without Borders ranked Egypt at 166th place in its annual Press Freedom Index (thank you Wiki)

    BBC: COP27: Egypt pressed to make human rights move before climate summit

    Fears that Egypt may use Cop27 to whitewash human rights abuses. Naomi Klein and Caroline Lucas among signatories to letter voicing concerns over country’s hosting of climate summit (This article is more than 2 months old, concedes the Guardian)

    BBC: English Channel migrants: Where they’re from and what they’re escaping – number four on the BBC’s third world basket case list, following on from – in no specified order:- Yemen; Eritea and Chad comes Egypt… With a population approaching 85 million people, Egypt is a major player in the Middle East (an odd turn of phrase there from our BBC – “major player”? Are we playing the board game Risk or trying to ascertain the reasons behind mass clandestine migration here?)

    BBC: The North African country is the gateway to Asia and home of the Suez canal, one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. But authorities have been increasing controls over traditional and social media to levels not seen before…

    Steady on BBC, people who reside in glazed habitations: Online Safety Bill to return as soon as possible… The Online Safety Bill will return to Parliament “quickly”, Culture Secretary Michelle Donelan has said… “the largest, highest-risk platforms” will also have to tackle some legal but harmful material accessed by adults – and make clear in their terms and conditions, which they are expected to enforce, what is and is not acceptable on their site. This gives big tech too much power, according to digital civil liberties campaigners.

    Back to the authoritarian regime that is Egypt… BBC: The economy was already struggling before the 2020 global pandemic – we know all about that hereabouts. Besides, we’re getting dangerously close to that dread term “economic migrants”. But I digress.

    BBC: ...political turmoil in the past ten years has put many Egyptians on the move – oddly enough, the political upheaval locally here in the UK of late, although rather distressing, hasn’t had me donning a life jacket and hiring a seat on a rubber dinghy heading for the shores of France. Not yet anyway. Hey-ho.

    Back to our BBC on the subject of Egypt and there’s another touchy subject broached: Problems with Islamists killing civilians and tourists… – ditto my remarks above re our very own islamist terror attacks here in Blighty.

    The internationalist-minded BBC doesn’t really have it in itself to slag off foreign nations. Well, not many of them. Rick Kelsey, Newsbeat reporter, on the one hand doesn’t want to frighten the children but is caught in a bit of cleft stick. He needs to justify migrants fleeing their homelands and yet not blacken their native countries – à la (if you’ll pardon the phrase, inshallah) Donald Trump: Trump referred to Haiti and African nations as ‘shithole’ countries… and asked why the U.S. can’t have more immigrants from Norway. (NBC News) – jokes about “Norwegians” not withstanding.

    Our BBC chap Rick Kelsey therefore concludes his speculation as to why migrants flee their homes in Egypt with what might have been a quote from the junior altas and encyclopedia: Yet the country has good transport and international buildings and companies in many big cities. It also does well from international tourism

    Admittedly UK transport is a bit iffy these days but otherwise we’ve got the same things going for us, especially in terms of tourism. It’s just that so many of our visitors prefer not to go home.

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    • Zephir says:

      And, when are BLM going to toss the pyramids in the Nile and demand reparations and apologies for Egyptian slavery ?

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  37. andyjsnape says:

    London needs £75bn to meet net zero goal – mayor
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63125904

    Only £75bn, green again, money money money – anyone would think theres a industry behind this lol (but I guess these people really do care) mmmmmm

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    • G says:

      He should take Londonistan into the money markets separately to borrow that sum and then, Council Tax anybody?……………..

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Since the Blair regime, London has increased its population by around 100,000 per year through mass immigration. Many of these people have come from low carbon footprint third world countries, but now have much higher carbon footprints by virtue of living in Britain, thus adding to both the local and global problem. Perhaps the Emir of Londonistan might like to ponder the relationship between population and energy usage (and healthcare, education, transport, water, sewage, congestion, crime…).

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    • Guest Who says:

      This after the national Citizen’s Climate Assembly hosted by Sir Boaty?

      Here in the shires the Greens and Limps are soon getting booted for gunning for Boris++ and ending up with a lot more than egg on their idiot, science bereft sandals.

      They have blown budgets for generations to get their councillors to Egypt to be given a Gold star.

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  38. Charlie Farley says:

    Mark Steyn last night , A good interview with David Starkey who thinks that we still have a Blair Government no matter who we vote for…..and of course the BBC lefty dominated Civil Serpents and all those desperate MP’s who want us back in the EU….Mass Immigration anybody ? , Coming to your local area more and more everyday..thanks Tony !

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Saw it Charlie
      Can there be any other conclusion ? What was the size of the State / welfare bill back then – compared to now ?

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  39. Fedup2 says:

    Today
    Robinson playing a tape of an interview the outgoing PM – Mary – Liz – dummy – in something done 24 hours ago . He asks if the OBR report publication is being bought forward from the planned 50 – fifty – days time –

    Liz didn’t answer . 24 hours later she has said it will be released ASAP …

    In fairness to Robinson – not the usual interview – but a bit like a psychiatrist – patient consultation – she is fried – and it didn’t take the BBC to do it .
    Boris must be laughing his parts off …as with sunak …
    How soon will she dump the superficial chancellor ?

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    • JohnC says:

      The BBC aren’t interested in getting rid of Liz. That’s why the criticisms have shifted from personal (with Boris) to policy and the disarray they are deliberately creating.

      They want nothing less than an election because now is the only chance Labour have to get in. They will keep going full steam until they get it.

      And OFCOM will be silent because they want it too.

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  40. andyjsnape says:

    TikTok designer creates jewellery from bacteria
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-62251818

    Anyone for a yellow blob hanging from the eye brow, where does the bBC find these people

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  41. JohnC says:

    Olivia Pratt-Korbel: Man in court accused of schoolgirl’s murder
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-63115917

    A couple of days ago, I posted pictures of 5 people who had been convicted of murder in Londonistan. The BBC only showed us the poor victims – I had to find those of the savages who did it with google. They were easily available from the police website.

    Strangely, they were all BAME.

    Well at last they are showing a picture of someone accused of murder. This one for Olivia Korbell. Accused mind – not convicted yet.

    And would you believe it ? – he’s white.

    One more instance of racial discrimination for OFCOM to ignore along with hundreds of others.

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  42. andyjsnape says:

    Mr Doodle: Why I covered my entire house with doodles
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-63118482

    “after his videos on social media racked up millions of views, and in 2020” bBC keep finding em, surely some news to report?

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  43. JohnC says:

    Just listening to an old Terry Wogan recording and had this gem thrust upon me by BBC news. It was given with the cheery, ‘good news’ voice that they do to influence how you receive it:

    ‘BBC news has learned that heroin addicts who were given the drug in supervised clinics during a pilot scheme were less likely to commit crimes. Users who took part in the project were also found to be less dependent on street drugs. ‘

    No shit Sherlock !. I wonder why this ‘free-drugs for heroin addicts’ never took off. It was nothing but plus points. Especially if you were a heroin addict.

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  44. Fedup2 says:

    Western propaganda / bbc news saying putin has a nuclear train heading to demonstrate a theatre nuclear weapon ( no idea ) and another heading for the arctic to upset the Finnish …..
    Those pesky ruskies pretty good at sabre rattling – bet it’s getting cold …

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    • JohnC says:

      The ‘protocol’ before they use tactical nuclear weapons is to fire a couple somewhere remote to show everyone they mean it.

      Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. Can’t trust Russia and can’t trust the Western media now. The BBC are the lowest as they are publicly funded and have a mandate to be honest – which means they cynically lie from a position of trust.

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    • Zephir says:

      F2 RE nuclear train:

      Makes sense;
      probably cheaper than diesel or electric at the moment.

      And judging from the smell of Virgin trains arriving at Birmingham as the doors open, after running back and forth to London all day, bio fuel is a definite option. Last time I smelled a smell like that was at the zoo, or was it the cattle market ?

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  45. micknotmike says:

    The bbc have an article about a new book featuring “explosive revelations” about the Donald. It’s worth reading. I’d vote for him.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Mick – I guess it’s the one written by a New York Times ‘Journo’ who has been following Donald trump for years and as a visceral hatred for him .

      I think she was interviewed yesterday on Today – even our Justin ? Commented that President Trump had been interviewed by her even though she showed open hostility – yet he still met her ..
      ….. although thinking about it maybe she was a ‘babe ‘…

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      • micknotmike says:

        Maggie Haberman. I think I’ll pass. She looks the sort who would glue herself to a polar bear to tackle wildlife issues.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The BBC are getting away with cynical, lazy, partial, journalistic murder.

      What if I offered an ‘article’ about ‘someone’ with ‘explosive revelations’ by Champion Ash about how she and Femi got on every show from Vile to Newsnight using nothing more than a Goat and a Polaroid of Timmeh?

      Not far.

      Deservedly so.

      So why does the least trustworthy propaganda broadcaster around?

      This ‘degree of separation’ is bad enough, especially compounded by being almost totally unidirectional.

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  46. Zephir says:

    I am sick to the back teeth already with “black history month” being spewed at me from all angles.

    Maybe we could have “recent black history month” ?

    1) A guide to our first black Chancellor and his one week tax cut.

    2) Profile of the first black in the Royal Family; demanding she get paid for walkabouts, assaults Australian waitress by throwing hot tea at her and on the dole after 6 months and accusing everyone of racism.

    3 )And maybe a cut out and keep guide to the various BLM leaders’ mansions paid for by charity donors .

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Zephir,
      Thank you. I had only heard the phrase on the radio and thought it was ‘black hysteria month’. I didn’t realise it was actually black history month, particularly as that’s something that could be exhaustively covered in about 1/2 hour.

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    • andyjsnape says:

      Hello Zephir, listening to the radio the other day and a comment about Black history month and it will happen every year

      We are stuck with it

      Anyone for starting White history month – but this would be totally racist

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  47. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    One of the most sensible voices around. I’ve been a fan of hers for over 20 years.

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  48. Thoughtful says:

    And in the news you won’t be being told today by the corrupted MSM:

    Saudi and Russia at a meeting of OPEC plus are to reduce oil production by over a million barrels a day in order to force oil prices back up to their peak.

    There is speculation that when Biden visited Saudi on his begging tour it was not for extra production of oil, but extra production up until the Autumn when the mid terms were to assist his ree-election. Perhaps in return he agreed to lay off the condemnation and Socialist attacks on the deeply religious state?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2022-10-03/opec-oil-output-meeting-saudi-arabia-s-new-pm-dubai-s-most-expensive-home

    In other news of the Democrat Mafia crime party the US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken appears to have confirmed the US did indeed destroy the Nordstream pipelines, calling it a “Tremendous opportunity” and also saying that the US ramped up its production and are now a leading LNG supplier to Europe. As well as “whoever blew up the nord stream pipelines likely did Europe a favour”

    https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/blinken-nord-stream-attack–opportunity

    https://tass.com/russia/1516785

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    • JohnC says:

      There is no doubt in my mind that the USA were behind it. Now Russia has no bargaining chip with Europe and are totally isolated.

      The BBC and the rest of the rotten media know it as well. That’s why they quoted others saying ‘Russia did it’ and dropped this huge story very quickly.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Good job Biden sold the strategic reserve to the Chinese during the summer ….
      Is it some loony plot to make the population demand ‘green crap energy ‘?

      Others have said the oil price would be ‘depressed ‘ on purpose until after the mid term elections

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      • MarkyMark says:

        A Drax spokesperson said: “Canada has some of the most highly regulated forests in the world which ensures the forests in British Columbia (BC) are managed properly and provide positive benefits to nature, the climate and people.

        “People living in and around these forests are best placed to determine how they should be looked after, not the BBC. Drax’s own world-leading sustainable sourcing policies are aligned with the rigorous regulatory frameworks and rules set by both the BC and UK governments.

        https://www.drax.com/press_release/drax-response-to-bbc-panorama-programme-on-canadian-forestry/

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  49. Fedup2 says:

    Gbnews exclusives for the chancellor and PM – it seems the OBR report is now back to 23 November – a change from this morning and yesterday … sit still long enough and it will change again…
    Wots go in’ on ?

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  50. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – why do they do it?

    Anne-Marie Trevelyan, Secretary of State for Transport, was being interviewed by Sarah when I belatedly switched on the radio. She said ‘So’ a lot at the beginning of sentences and her replies. It seems to be a very much a female thing, although not exclusively so. Is it down to our education system in schools and universities?

    A-M T was fairly evasive in her replies that were not her brief. That is understandable, especially at present.

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