Midweek 8 February 2023

Let’s hear it for Lucy Fraser . Lucy is the new ‘culture secretary ‘ – the last one lasted about 4 months . Good for your pension Lucy – let’s be sure you’ll be a good / bad as previous ‘culture secretaries ‘ …. It may be a sign that the current socialist government doesn’t care too much about stuff like the BBC or OFCOM or the end of free speech . Just imagine – they still have a great big majority …

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  1. MarkyMark says:

    Government data about the UK’s different ethnic groups. 82% of people in England and Wales are white, and 18% belong to a black, Asian, mixed or other ethnic group (2021 Census data). Find information about the experiences and outcomes of people from a variety of ethnic backgrounds.

    https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/#:~:text=Government%20data%20about%20the%20UK's,a%20variety%20of%20ethnic%20backgrounds.

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    “By 2020, the BBC wants its employees to comprise 50% women, 8% disabled people, 8% lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender people and 15% people from black, Asian and ethnic minority backgrounds.{bbc.co.uk 14sep2017}”

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  2. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I think I know why there’s so many ‘far right’ and why they are so much more dangerous than the usual lot.

    The ‘far right’ stare and sometimes have long quiet (not speaking) periods as demonstrated by Raab.

    No wonder the police have their hands full trying to cope with these crimes against humanity.
    These horrors really put the bbc favourites right at the back of the queue when it comes to identifying the threats we are now facing.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      1765 …. In a republic worthy of name, freedom to publish one’s thoughts is a citizen’s natural right.They may use a pen or their voice, and should not be prevented from writing any more than speaking …That is the law in England, a monarchical country, where people are freer than elsewhere because they are more enlightened. – Voltaire, Republican Ideas, 1765

      2018 … In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non-crime hate incidents, which can include things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing. Hate will not be tolerated in South Yorkshire. Report it and put a stop to it #HateHurtsSY – UK South Yorkshire Police, 2018

      https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2018/09/09/start-the-week-open-thread-10-september-2018/#comment-941331

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  4. AsISeeIt says:

    Fill your philanthropic boots edition

    In which cynical Mr AsI gossips and tends toward being a know-all and an armchair sleuth in his daily ghoulish carvival survey of the press…

    If you were still in doubt that covid was So Last Year…

    Number three in importance of news subject tab over there at the online BBC announces: Covid: Last chance for adults under 50 to get booster

    I’m oddly reminded of that old phrase of mine host the pub landlord calling last orders: “Ain’t you got no homes to go to?” Ain’t you got no homes to be locked in?

    One of the fews times – outside of an alarmist news broadcast or performative ritualised supermarket situation – where the great pandemic actually touched this skeptical observer was in a pub where bubbles of six were enforced and a member of our (assumed) household party was repremanded by staff for having strayed from our table and conversed with a member of a neighbouring table – I kid you not.

    From extremis to workaday… in the blink of an eye…

    Adults under 50 in England have just over a week left to take up the NHS offer of a Covid booster jab. It is the last opportunity for healthy 16-49-year-olds to get a top-up dose – if they have not yet had three jabs. (BBC) – last chance… for this invaluable, vital, life-saving, pandemic-preventing, new-found wonder discovery of medical science?

    We note my nostalgic hyperbole for the vax there glaringly contrasts with the now rather measured BBC/official statement of efficacy – which a well-known brand of fence varnish might tend to blandly reassure consumers with: ‘Does exactly what it says on the tin’

    The vaccine can help protect against severe illness, even if you have caught Covid before. NHS England has stressed that this fourth jab is not being rolled out to healthy under-50s… Prof Whitty said it would not be available indefinitely. “[It] is coming to an end on 12 February… (BBC)

    Blimey, while stocks last, remember when all that was THE big thing?

    And if you don’t know what the NEW big thing is… well, you must have been living under the rubble of an earthquake-hit collapsed Turkish building for the last few days.

    ‘Give us wings for freedom’ Zelensky… [other spellings are available in our press – although policies other than the prosecution of the proxy war are not] ...addresses MPs and meets the King in historic British visit (The Times)

    Touching on that natural disaster that’s ended lives and turned a region thousands of miles to the east of our shores to rubble…

    The left-leaning ‘i’ newspaper can’t resist the political opportunity: UK’s effort to help Turkey quake victims ‘damaged by budget cuts’ Aid response is ‘slow and minimal’, insider claims

    Sometime out of the mouths of leftists come great truths – although they may not notice it themselves – to wit: if our nation is bankrupted and our cupboard bare then how are we going to afford to save the world?

    I’m no fan of enforced overseas charity extracted through taxation. The Sun has the right philanthropic idea: In just 48 hours, Sun quake fund hits £500,000 – that’s the way to do it, as Mr Punch likes to say. Voluntary donation. Fill your philanthropic boots – if you wish to do so.

    UK warns Putin: We may send fighter jets to protect Ukraine (‘i’) – do we detect the very slightest note of queasiness there in the more left-leaning, less warmongering, of our press?

    The Daily Express has no qualms, consistently having flown the blue and yellow flag on its masthead; only dipping that foreign banner for a few of our own native high days and holidays: ‘Send Zelensky all our jets’ – may as well, we’ve no pilots of our own to fly them.

    One doubts there will be the sort of ethnic and gender quotas which delight our top RAF flyboys for the putative Ukrainian pilot training.

    From discordant cultural messaging and priorities to discordant noise…

    There’s a veritable cacophony scream of shrill shreiky female complaint expressed on the cover of the ‘i’ newspaper today: Interview My Prospero is a powerful woman; Life As a mature model, I’m back in fashion; People A warning to Leonardo DiCaprio’s girfriends I dated an older man. Just don’t do it; New prize for best non-fiction by women

    Self awareness and self reflection is not a strong suit in the average journalist these days. In the Daily Mail Bel Mooney complains: It’s appalling that Nicola’s family nightmare is being turned into a ghoulish carvival of cynics, gossips know-alls and armchair sleuths

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit
      The Chinese virus was a godsend to those who are paid to ‘social control ‘ – it showed that full on fear based propaganda – every day – graphs – men at podiums – peer pressure – a United msm – can make us do anything . …..

      … they wonder sometimes how ordinary Germans looked away as groups were putting on cattle trains to ‘go east ‘
      – people knew what ‘going east ‘really meant ….

      So now we know how easily that mindset can be ‘conditioned ‘ .look away now ….

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      • MarkyMark says:

        “A remarkable—and singularly chilling—glimpse of human behavior. . .This meticulously researched book…represents a major contribution to the literature of the Holocaust.”—Newsweek

        Christopher R. Browning’s shocking account of how a unit of average middle-aged Germans became the cold-blooded murderers of tens of thousands of Jews—now with a new afterword and additional photographs.

        Ordinary Men is the true story of Reserve Police Battalion 101 of the German Order Police, which was responsible for mass shootings as well as round-ups of Jewish people for deportation to Nazi death camps in Poland in 1942. Browning argues that most of the men of RPB 101 were not fanatical Nazis but, rather, ordinary middle-aged, working-class men who committed these atrocities out of a mixture of motives, including the group dynamics of conformity, deference to authority, role adaptation, and the altering of moral norms to justify their actions. Very quickly three groups emerged within the battalion: a core of eager killers, a plurality who carried out their duties reliably but without initiative, and a small minority who evaded participation in the acts of killing without diminishing the murderous efficiency of the battalion whatsoever.

        While this book discusses a specific Reserve Unit during WWII, the general argument Browning makes is that most people succumb to the pressures of a group setting and commit actions they would never do of their own volition.

        Ordinary Men is a powerful, chilling, and important work with themes and arguments that continue to resonate today.

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        • Flotsam says:

          What was notable about the holocaust was that the earliest mass killings were in the Baltic States of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. The native hate for Jews was easily unleashed. It’s notable that to this day that there seems to be a number of ultra violent incidents in this country committed by Latvians and Lithuanians.

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          • Chevalnoir says:

            … that was the Nazi trial/pilot phase. They found out just shooting people was not the solution …

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          • MarkyMark says:

            Inside the terrifying estate controlled by Albanian drug gang where locals are ‘targets’
            The Hellbanianz is an infamous street gang based in the Gascoigne Estate in Barking, East London.
            By JOHN VARGA, ZAK GARNER-PURKIS
            00:00, Sun, Jan 29, 2023 | UPDATED: 00:02, Sun, Jan 29, 2023

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      • Chevalnoir says:

        … does anyone remember the day David Cameron sat on a rock at the foot of a glacier and (shortened version) told us that the world will end if we don’t all comply and stop harmful/co2 emissions. It was then the start of WEF control in practice was visited upon us. A pre-run of Covid control; and so it goes on …

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  5. MarkyMark says:

    The pair immediately clashed over Anderson’s comments on food banks, with Cowley repeatedly hammering away at his claim that anyone earning over £30,000 shouldn’t need to use one. Quite rightly, Lee stood his ground. The discussion then turned to “dishonesty”, with Cowley then saying some would call Lee himself dishonest over his 2019 door knocking incident with Michael Crick. Anderson bit back by asking (ten times over) “have you ever told a lie?” To which Cowley eventually replied “we sometimes tell false truths to protect people”…

    order-order.com

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    “I am not kidding. @BBCNews website leaves the impression the Syrian suicide bomber as a victim in a ‘German blast’.” – Tarek Fatah 24jul2016

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Is this real ? Good evidence of infiltration of the BBC editorial stand -support ?- for Islamic terrorist killing if so … thx

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      • MarkyMark says:

        There are lots of examples – original story lost now.

        …………

        MY BBC COMPLAINT

        YOUR COMPLAINT:

        Complaint Summary: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

        Full Complaint: “Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed (May and Corbyn’s old speeches): everything else is public relations.” – Orwell

        Theresa May … being put forward as Prime Minister and issuing a general election on implementing Brexit which was about immigration and sovereignty. … these speeches were never mentioned on the BBC £3.5bn news or other media outlets …
        1978 … “The moment the minority threatens to become a big one, people get frightened.” – Margaret Thatcher 1978

        2012 … “Two and a half years ago, the coalition government was formed, and we made a clear promise to the British public. After thirteen years of uncontrolled mass immigration, this government would reduce and control immigration.” – Theresa May 2012

        2015 … “Because when immigration is too high (no figure given), when the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society.” – Theresa May 2015

        Jeremy Corbyn … with all the news on BBC £3.5bn Service regarding the Iran Nuclear Deal, Jeremy Corbyn has not been asked why he backs Al Quds protests and has spoken at them or why his is not vocal on Iran’s ‘death to’ position with Israel.

        2012 … Jeremy Corbyn speaks at Al Quds march, Al Quds is the protest for all the oppressed but was initiated by an oppressor Ayatollah Khomeini. Jeremy Corbyn does not chastise the Iranian regime.

        2018 … Iran release a ‘Death to Israel’ and ‘Death to America’ Government approved emoji. But this is not mentioned when talking about Iran by the BBC or other outlets.

        MPs expenses …. it was in 2008 that MPs used expenses to fill their own pockets or shredded. UK MPs on both sides have talked about reducing expenses and recession and austerity. Yet, since 2010 MPs have enjoyed a pay increased of 18%. How come the BBC news has not reported on this when talking to MPs?

        “The omission is the most powerful form of lie, and it is the duty of the historian to ensure that those lies do not creep into the history books.” – George Orwell

        BBC NONE RESPONSE …

        Thank you for getting in touch regarding BBC News.

        I understand you have concerns about the integrity of BBC News reporting over the last few years.

        BBC News aims to show the political reality and provide a forum for discussion on issues, giving full opportunity for all sides of the debate to be heard and explored. Senior editorial staff within BBC News and the BBC’s Executive Board ensure that editorial guidelines are adhered to.

        Our News editors ensure that over a reasonable period of time we reflect the range of significant views, opinions and trends on particular issues, but it’s important to add here that our published Editorial Guidelines explain that not every issue or viewpoint necessarily has to be included in each individual report.

        The key point is that the BBC as an organisation has no view or position itself on anything we may report upon – our aim is to identify all significant views, and to test them rigorously and fairly on behalf of our audiences.

        In dealing with any controversial issue, we are required to give a fair and balanced report, but balance cannot be judged simply on the basis of the amount of time allocated to the representatives of either side of an argument. One spokesperson may make their points concisely, while another needs rather longer to explain a point of view or a complex issue, plus a change to the existing position or status quo may take longer to clarify.

        Account also needs to be taken of the way a subject is covered over a period of time; perfect balance is difficult to achieve on every single individual occasion, while overall it is a more achievable goal taking into account our coverage as a whole over a period of time.

        That said, we do value your feedback about this issue. All complaints are sent to senior management every morning and I included your points in this overnight report.

        These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the BBC and ensures that your complaint has been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future programmes.

        Once again, thank you for contacting us.

        Kind regards

        Gareth Murray

        BBC Complaints Team

        https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2018/05/20/start-the-week-open-thread-21-may-2018/comment-page-3/#comment-917788

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  6. Eddy Booth says:

    “UK warns Putin: We may send fighter jets to protect Ukraine”
    How do they protect?
    Modern anti aircraft missiles seem to totally negate air power be it jets, carpet bombers even helicopters with a machine gunner dangling his legs out of the door, and strafing the enemy.

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    • Chevalnoir says:

      … oh dear … do we learn nothing …air power = control = destroy ground forces. This is 1937, in case you havn’t noticed …

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    • JohnC says:

      I think it’s not so easy for missiles when fast jets are travelling at 650mph at treetop height. Particularly if the pilots know where the missiles are.

      Ground radar doesn’t get them and by the time you know they are coming, they’ve gone. I used to do some drone work before all the rules and regulations. You can easily spot all the civilian aircraft but when the RAF Tornados came over at 150 feet, you got about 3 seconds warning from the noise.

      Apparently the Russians are using them with good effect now and Ukraine are losing the war through sheer weight of numbers. Hence the sudden demands for the best weapons we’ve got. It’s not to ‘liberate more territory from Russia’ as the BBC keep telling us, it’s to try and stop Russia taking more.

      All I can think of is ‘what happens next’. Are we just ‘donating’ all this equipment or is it ‘lend lease’ ?. If they get shot down, do we just send them some more ?. Who pays for our replacements and what state does giving them away leave us in?. And what happens when Ukraine run out of men to operate all this equipment we are sending ?.

      I expect the ‘protection’ is for these jets to engage the Russian jets under the guidance of USA AWACS aircraft from outside Ukranian airspace. Which the Russians will certainly see as legitimate targets if it becomes effective.

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  7. MarkyMark says:

    2016

    His remarks were deemed likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress.

    ‘Gay’ police horse case dropped
    A student who called a mounted policeman’s horse “gay” will not be prosecuted, it has been revealed.
    But police have stood by their decision to take Sam Brown to court for making “homophobic comments” despite the Crown Prosecution Service dropping the case.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/4606022.stm

    Mr Brown, 21, a student at Oxford University, had said to an officer: “Excuse me, do you realise your horse is gay?”

    Police took the case to court after Mr Brown refused to pay a £80 fine.
    Mr Brown, who made the comment during a night out with friends in Oxford after his final exams, was arrested under section 5 of the Public Order Act for making homophobic remarks.

    “He made homophobic comments that were deemed offensive to people passing by.”

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  8. MarkyMark says:

    “However, Thursday’s EU leaders’ summit is not a forum for weapons pledges but a chance for Ukraine’s president to be in the room with all 27 EU leaders.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64577375

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  9. andyjsnape says:

    Disney says Toy Story and Frozen sequels on the way as streaming numbers fall
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64576228

    bBC approves of Disney, maybe because of it being leftist crap

    Hopefully Disney doesn’t make another Star Wars film and ruins if further

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “And Mr Iger said he would cut 7,000 jobs in a major shake-up of the entertainment giant.”

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  10. MarkyMark says:

    Kemi Badenoch showed a deft grasp of her brief amid a grilling from Sky News’ Ed Conway last night, during which she fended off Brexit criticisms by criticising the “fake conversation” Remainers try to have about it.

    order-order.com

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    Minister Ng speaks with United Kingdom’s Secretary of State for International Trade Kemi Badenoch
    https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2023/01/minister-ng-speaks-with-united-kingdoms-secretary-of-state-for-international-trade-kemi-badenoch.html

    January 19, 2023 – Davos, Switzerland – Global Affairs Canada

    Minister Ng and Secretary Badenoch discussed the importance of continuing collaboration between Canada and the United Kingdom at multilateral forums and building on shared initiatives relating to trade and the environment, inclusive trade, digital trade, and trade and health.

    trade
    inclusive trade
    trade and health

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  11. Thoughtful says:

    You know things are bad when even CNN fact checks Bidens State of the Union address and finds it wanting in several areas:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/07/politics/fact-check-president-biden-state-of-the-union/index.html

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    • Guest Who says:

      And BS and Larry The Twat tag team over a ‘source who says’ like a couple of juvenile mean girlz.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Mmm interesting … looks like someone might notice a certain ‘lap top’ . …maybe Obama has instructed the way for someone else to be next false president – I still think his lady wife is a good bet …. As for the GOP – I think Nikki Haley is far too qualified for the job ….

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  12. Fedup2 says:

    From our biased correspondent

    I’m out of touch – I live in an alt world . Apparently there are kidults called ‘ influencers ‘…. Who make money telling other lesser kidults what to say and do .

    There is some English bloke in Romania who tells boys how to treat girls . He is , it seems ‘a misogynist’ …. And is on trial for various alleged sex offences ….

    I listened but I did not choose to hear much . Yet I noticed that a bbc type called Paul Kenyon sung the same tune his type use when describing Tommy Robinson – the full approved biased language – without any attempt at objectivity or balance .
    But maybe this character is a ‘monster ‘ in the BBC approved version of the world – I don’t care – but he seems to be the full ‘baddie ‘ now ….

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  13. MarkyMark says:

    Alex Morgan: USA forward calls potential Saudi sponsorship deal for 2023 Women’s World Cup ‘bizarre’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64579257
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    The Saudis may own Newcastle United, but it will always be an odd relationship
    This article is more than 1 year oldIan Jack
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/23/saudis-newcastle-united-odd-relationship-football-club-fans
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    Wolverhampton Wanderers – Fosun International
    Chinese holding company Fosun International bought Wolves in July 2016 from previous owner Steve Morgan for around £45m. Headquartered in Shanghai and Hong Kong, they have a presence in 16 countries and are estimated to be worth around $9.14bn (£6.72bn).5 Jan 2022
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    bizarre?????

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  14. MarkyMark says:

    Since Fosun acquired Wolverhampton Wanderers Football Club in 2016, Fosun Sports has relied on the group’s global resources and built a professional team to operate the club consistently and steadily, which has greatly enhanced Wolves’ brand value.
    https://en.fosun.com/content/details74_6717.html
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    China owns vast network of UK real estate, offshore records reveal
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/27/china-owns-vast-offshore-network-uk-real-estate-records-reveal

    Presence of key distribution centres on list of more than 250 properties raises questions about grip on supply chain links

    UK for sale: how the rich hold British property via offshore firms
    Rob Davies
    @ByRobDavies
    Fri 27 Jan 2023 14.45 GMT
    The Chinese government owns a vast network of UK real estate via offshore secrecy jurisdictions such as Luxembourg and the Isle of Man, the Guardian can reveal, raising questions about Beijing’s grip on links in the UK supply chain.

    Disclosures made as part of a new government register of property owned via offshore entities show that China’s investment division owns more than 250 properties across Britain via dozens of companies. They include distribution centres that are key to the flow of food and goods in multiple regions of the UK including the south-west and south-east of England and the Midlands.

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  15. theisland says:

    Perhaps people will wake up when our military is under the direct command of Germans.

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  16. MarkyMark says:

    “That, he said, is because “they are defending our front line” – the continent’s front line, and the front line of our values.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64577672

    front line of our values
    ……….
    According to Transparency International’s 2021 Corruption Perceptions Index, (a scale of least to most corrupt nations), Ukraine ranked 122nd out of 180 countries in 2021, the second most corrupt in Europe, with Russia the most at 136.
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    Pandora Papers Reveal Offshore Holdings of Ukrainian President and his Inner Circle
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    Ukrainian protesters flood Kiev after president pulls out of EU deal
    This article is more than 9 years old
    Biggest demonstrations since Orange revolution after Viktor Yanukovych allegedly aborts trade deal under Russian pressure
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/24/ukraine-protesters-yanukovych-aborts-eu-deal-russia
    ………….
    KIEV/SEVASTOPOL, Crimea (Reuters) – The career of Sergei Yeliseyev helps to explain why Ukraine’s armed forces gave up Crimea almost without a fight – and why NATO now says it is alert to Russian attempts to undermine military loyalty in its eastern European members.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-crimea-annexation-idUSKBN1A90G0

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  17. G.W.F. says:

    The Westminster clapothon for the leader of the democratic free world

    Failure to clap is treachery. The media love him, especially GB News

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Tricky one – it seems the president of the world says that Ukraine is stopping Russia from destroying the western way of life .
      Clearly he has not been to newham , tower hamlets , Luton , Rotherham …. De de de ……where other forces are already doing it …

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      • MarkyMark says:

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Is that the constituency that elected the convicted coke fiend ? Actually care less – that bloke is a ++++

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          • Thoughtful says:

            The electorate there were so hacked off with so sorry Clegg of the fib Dems they thought a coke fiend would be a better bet.

            Voters by and large a pretty stupid and do what the media tell them to do. Years ago the Left were constantly moaning about the Press deciding the outcome of elections for the Tories, now the fact they don’t should tell you how they have changed, and it’s the Right moaning, but not theh Tories because they are of the Left.

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        • vlad says:

          LIzzard talks about chaos.
          From a person who doesn’t know if it’s a he, she or it.
          Sounds mentally chaotic to me.

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  18. MarkyMark says:

    Cross-party MPs shocked by Foreign Office talks with Xinjiang governor
    Exclusive: Erkin Tuniyaz ‘played central role’ in persecution of Uyghurs, says inter-parliamentary alliance on China
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/08/cross-party-mps-shocked-by-foreign-office-talks-with-xinjiang-governor
    ………………..

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  19. Flotsam says:

    New Fawlty Towers

    Basil’s new waiter is Mohamed who he regularly slaps and insults………

    …….or perhaps not

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  20. Flotsam says:

    Looks like endemic inflation in Britain is alive and well as public sector offers are 7% backdated to July and 5% this year.

    Taxes will have to increase as Councils and Government run out of money.

    The Government should have called the Unions bluff and let them get on with their strikes. You can tell Thatcher isn’t in charge.

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  21. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    On talk tv now they are discussing the death penalty and whether it should be brought back.
    This is because Lee Anderson says it could be brought back if there was 100% proof of guilt.

    Some are saying about there being total proof and it might be acceptable.

    What if you wanted to set somebody up or frame somebody and do things like leave their dna at the scene, use a gun or knife belonging to them or placing damning evidence at the scene.
    There are many ways to make it look like a person committed the murder.

    My main opposition is that I don’t trust the government one little bit (or the police and others who would be involved)
    They could easily rig the case, withhold evidence, put in bent judges and lawyers or do so many other things to get the result they want.
    Then there’s the slippery slope part where more and more offences could be put into the death penalty category. All governments would use this to their advantage.
    Look at it now, all lefty marches, protests, road blocking and suchlike get very favourable treatment from our police yet anything slightly to the right and they are onto it like a ton of bricks. Our ‘elite’ are very much left wing.

    Don’t get me wrong, if anyone hurt any of my family I would volunteer to execute them, pull the lever or whatever but I don’t trust our government one little bit and don’t want them to have the power to have people killed because as sure as day follows night they will abuse this power.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      EG
      I think locking people up for decades is more inhumane treatment than killing them. I take the point on ‘fit ups’ – but where there are multiple killings – multiple rapes – achieving ‘beyond reasonable doubt ‘ is tricky . Perhaps the biggest danger is the fixed jury ….
      But maybe an appeal process could check test the decision in capital cases ….

      It’s an academic exercise anyway but the one Tory does get his moment of public attention ….. before being reshuffled in a year ….. green card won’t want people with conservative values anywhere near …

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      • Thoughtful says:

        I usually quote JRR Tolkeins opinion on the death penalty

        “Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

        No Socialist government should ever ever ever be given the power to end peoples lives, these bas****ds are quick enough to murder people indiscriminately whenever they come to power, there is absolutely zero sense in handing them the means to do that with targetted ends.

        We are hearing from todays Nazi’s that anyone who offends them regardless of their mental health needs to die, already they are saying anyone who they regard as a ‘racist’ deserves to die.

        Why give them this power? None of those who puport to represent us are decent honest or even respectable ( or very few might be) they are not to be trusted with the power of life and death over us.

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    • Flotsam says:

      As an example from the past the famous pathologist Bernard Spilsbury has had doubt cast on his work. He was Crown witness a a number of very notable murder trials. His evidence has been reviewed by criminologists in recent years and it has become apparent that some of his work was defective and biased. There was a TV program which conducted a review of one of his trials in which a Judge found the defendant who was found guilty and hanged, innocent.
      The problem is that power, conceit and fame corrupts. What about the hundreds of bent Met officers that the authorities acknowledge? DNA is great but so easy to plant.

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  22. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Farage last night had Charlie Peters on.
    This man has made a documentary about the tens of thousands of gang rape by the enrichers all over the Country and it will be shown on Saturday.

    I wonder if these two will be the next to get the Steyn treatment from GBN and find themselves thrown to the dogs as Steyn was by regularly featuring these ‘grooming’ gangs and having little girls on who were abused, to tell their stories.

    I think Steyn was forced out because of his bringing the truths out about the ‘vaccines’ and how they were killing people or disabling them but as GBN gets more mainstream on its journey to the left they will use any excuse to get rid of those who tell it as it is. GBN and Ofcom joining together (ruining what could have been a great news/comment channel)

       19 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Eg
      I think paki racist Paedo Rape gangs are more acceptable as subjects than threatening the profits of big pharma and their paid lackeys .
      I’d wonder if mr steyn’s heart attack was a ‘natural ‘ occurrence ….

      The word ‘grooming ‘ is too – sanitised ….and in my view – best avoided – and maybe abbreviated to organised child rape

         12 likes

  23. andyjsnape says:

    Quote from bBC website:-

    “Zelensky says the dialogue has been opened about their future in the EU. He says “we need unity in this case” and that Ukraine wants it this year, to motivate themselves and especially their army.”

    How the hell would joining the eu, motive Ukraines army???

    UK wants to train Ukraine’s pilots ‘as quickly as humanly possible’

    Who writes this crap, humanly possible???

    bBC its NATO, not Nato

       11 likes

  24. andyjsnape says:

    https://www.wionews.com/world/woke-diversity-drive-uks-royal-air-force-admits-skewed-hiring-in-favour-of-women-ethnic-minorities-520161
    Woke diversity drive? UK’s Royal Air Force admits skewed hiring in favour of women, ethnic minorities

    The RAF as a new recruiting IT system, to improve the diversity of its workforce. I work in IT but have never heard of a system to improve diversity!

    Who comes up with these ideas, probably another woke/diversity officer earning a small fortune, which seem to creep into most organisations including the bBC, NHS etc

       8 likes

  25. MarkyMark says:

    The House of Commons bulletin claims that booze prices will now be more aligned with “external establishments“, although as Guido’s already pointed out, when a pint costs £6.45 in the Red Lion, and £3.45 over the road in Parliament, a 10% increase doesn’t quite align things. Bottoms up…

    order-order.com/

    ………………………

    Dear Darren Henry,

    Can you tell me what these actual items are? Seems you have a lot of items under a generic name.

    14/04/2020 Office Costs Banner March 2020 Stationery & printing £423.70

    11/03/2020 Office Costs Banner February 2020 Stationery & printing £423.70

    https://www.mpsexpenses.info/?#!/mp/993 https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/darren-henry/4794

    Also, what are you buying from Amazon – no details of the actual item paid for … May 2020 AMAZON.CO.UK [***] £97.98 view details

       2 likes

  26. theisland says:

    https://www.steynonline.com/13238/the-mark-steyn-show-is-back

    Mark’s show from last night on his website – with guests Leilani, Alexandra and Eva.

       6 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Keir Starmer Says He Prefers WEF Davos To British Democracy

      choose now between Davos or Westminster
      1:26
      Davos why because Westminster is too
      constrained
      and you know it’s closed and we’re not
      having meaning once you get out of
      Westminster whether it’s Davos or
      anywhere else you actually engage with
      people that you can see working with in
      the future Westminster is just a tribal
      shouting place of course it’s a close
      place of course it’s a tribal place it’s
      supposed to be for prison it’s a British
      Parliament it’s not supposed to be for
      the world he literally said it because
      he prefers to deal with people on a more
      Global level and he he prefers to you
      know also he the fact that he said is
      shouty and it’s it’s closed he also
      means that I can’t get things done we
      have to debate you know people shout at
      me people disagree with me I don’t like
      it I just want to be in an echo chamber
      that if I come with an idea they just
      agree with me and they just get it done
      this is a classic classic and an
      authoritarian globalist mentality the
      people at Cloud shop are promoting as
      the head of wuf they just want to come
      up with ideas they don’t want to b

         3 likes

    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      theisland

      Thanks for that, a good watch.
      Is it on every night or week? How do we find out.
      I like the 3 girls on his show as well.

         1 likes

      • theisland says:

        EG
        I found it via the link on his twitter feed https://twitter.com/MarkSteynOnline
        I don’t have a twitter account but can still look at the posts.
        On his website https://www.steynonline.com things also pop up on the Home page as and when.
        I don’t know when he will be doing the shows (he didn’t say) or whether we will need to be members of The Mark Steyn Club to watch them in future – hopefully they will be free? (I’m not a member – although it may come to that).
        His site is a bit complicated but every Sunday he posts Mark’s Week in Review which gives a summary of activity over the past week. This often includes links to his Friday night Clubland Q&A audios, which one can also listen to free if not a member.
        Hope that helps. I’ll try to keep posting the links as I see them!

           8 likes

  27. MarkyMark says:

    “The annual adjustment to MPs’ basic pay for 2023-24 will therefore be the same as the average increase in pay for public sector employees last year, an increase of 2.9%, bringing the overall salary from £84,144 to £86,584 from 1 April 2023.”

    They should unionise…

    order-order.com
    …………

    Tory MP Nadhim Zahawi admits taxpayers paid power bill for his stables
    This article is more than 9 years old
    MP promises to repay the part of £5,822.27 expenses claim for second home energy bills that relates to electricity for stables

    Nadhim-Zahawi-MP-with-Dav-009.jpg?width=620&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none

       3 likes

  28. JohnC says:

    Project Genetrix
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Genetrix

    ‘Project Genetrix, also known as WS-119L, was a United States Air Force program designed to launch General Mills manufactured surveillance balloons[1][2] over China, Eastern Europe, and the Soviet Union to take aerial photographs and collect intelligence.

    Between 10 January and 6 February 1956, a total of 516 high-altitude vehicles were launched from the five different launch sites Gardermoen, Norway; Evanton, Scotland; Oberpfaffenhofen and Giebelstadt, West Germany; and Incirlik, Turkey’

    The point for my post is not that the USA used balloons on a huge scale – but how difficult it was to get google to point me to that page.

    It’s almost like their algorithm was trying to hide it from me …

    I don’t care much about the meal the Western media is making about it in the prep for us going to war with them after Russia – it’s how on Earth such an object can so easily float over all the Western countries and nobody knows.

       7 likes

  29. JohnC says:

    Turkey and Syria earthquake: Bodies found in search for volleyball team
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64579269

    ‘Three bodies have been found as rescuers in Turkey search a collapsed hotel for a group of school volleyball players following Monday’s earthquakes.

    The bodies of two teachers and a student were recovered from the Isias Hotel in Adiyaman, said officials in Turkish-controlled northern Cyprus.’

    Now it’s tragic I know. Building collapses are a particularly nasty thing to happen to anyone.

    But the total number of deaths is now past 17,500.

    Are the BBC going to spend the next 6 months writing empathy pieces for every victim they can find who they have a cute photograph to show alongside the news they are dead ?.

    The BBC seem to have forgotten they are there to provide news. Not satisfy their own desire to virtue-signal and demonstrate how morally superior and compassionate they are.

    Plus their interviewing of people whose daughters are missing or trapped to get quotes to overload us with empathy is quite disgusting. I can just imagine the BBC roaming around looking for those in most distress then asking them for an interview. Then excitedly writing it up back at the hotel and pontificating about what award they might get for it next time the BBC tells itself how excellent it is.

    No picture of who wrote this one. But I can guess what they look like.

       11 likes

  30. Zephir says:

    Racebaiting black thugs dressed in paramilitary stuff outside school on the rampage, threatening teachers over a school fight ffs.

    Pity they have nothing to say when they are stabbing and mugging each other:

    “Angry protesters gather outside school in fury at vicious ‘racist attack’ on 15-year-old black girl as rapper Dave leads calls to sack teachers for ‘not stepping in’ – and police arrest five including two girls, 11, and woman, 39”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11731975/Angry-protestors-gather-outside-school-fury-vicious-racist-attack-15-year-old-black-girl.html

       10 likes

  31. Zephir says:

    This is being actively enabled and stoked up by the likes of the bbc and other MSM, and will not end well:

    Forever Family: The British protest group with uniforms, body armour, walkie-talkies and military-style drills who resemble the Black Panther movement in ‘battle against racism”

    Black violence largely ignored…anyone remember the BLM woman shot in the head ? where’s the outrage there ?

    Numerous black stabbers and stabbees week after week year after year where’s the outrage there ?

       11 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Who are Forever Family? The secretive British protest group with uniforms, body armour, walkie-talkies and military-style drills who resemble the Black Panther movement in ‘battle against racism’
      Organisation Forever Family aims to support and centralise community groups
      Members resembled the Black Panther revolutionary activists of 1960s America
      Videos showed group stood in rows and following orders in military-style drill
      March marked 186th anniversary of day Abolition of Slavery Act came into force
      By JONATHAN BUCKS FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY and JEMMA CARR FOR MAILONLINE

      PUBLISHED: 11:19, 2 August 2020 | UPDATED: 16:34, 2 August 2020

         4 likes

  32. Zephir says:

    Where is our paramilitary protest here ?

    Video shows 9-year-old Florida girl savagely beaten by two boys in school bus attack

    https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/florida-girl-9-beaten-by-two-boys-in-school-bus-attack/

       6 likes

  33. Zephir says:

    Or here ????

    3 Black Students Face Charges After Alleged Racial Bus

    Fighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqo9jUvRroY

       7 likes

  34. Zephir says:

    BRUTAL: Tucker Carlson Reacts To WILD Video Of Black Student Attacking White Kid In School Bathroom

       8 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      How the Albanian Mafia Controls Cocaine Supply in London
      In our new All 4 show “Criminal Planet”, we investigate the deadly alliance between Albania and Colombia’s biggest coke clan.
      Simon Doherty
      By Simon Doherty
      LONDON, GB
      10 March 2022, 9:00am

         4 likes

  35. MarkyMark says:

    Traces of cocaine found in the UK Parliament, including near Boris Johnson’s office: report
    https://www.businessinsider.com/cocaine-traces-found-uk-parliament-including-near-pms-office-report-2021-12?r=US&IR=T

    The paper reported that there’s a “cocaine culture” in Parliament that includes household names and young MPs.
    Top editors give you the stories you want — delivered ri

    ….

    “The annual adjustment to MPs’ basic pay for 2023-24 will therefore be the same as the average increase in pay for public sector employees last year, an increase of 2.9%, bringing the overall salary from £84,144 to £86,584 from 1 April 2023.”

       3 likes

  36. MarkyMark says:

    “Give your vagina the sweet treat it deserves (and turn it into a sweet treat),” Kourtney continues.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-64546757
    …………

    Snake-Oil-Cures-All.jpeg

       2 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      BBC 27 Sept 2022 Are hurricanes getting more violent?

      Their new reply to Homewood’s complaint
      ‘ We’ll ignore your actual concerns, and address some things you didn’t actually say
      and use that as an excuse to dismiss your complaint
      .. So long suckers !”

         2 likes

  37. Guest Who says:

    Vile struggling to get even cyclists onside.

    https://twitter.com/thejeremyvine/status/162371845838181581

    Seemed like he swerved from a position between two lanes into the inside.

       3 likes

  38. Guest Who says:

    That Dem bloke makes AOC seem smart.

    Quite an achievement.

       3 likes

  39. Guest Who says:

    The Conservatives are done.

       10 likes

  40. MarkyMark says:

    Jet fuel prices could jump by up to 25% with airspace closures forcing re-routing and significant rises in fuel consumption, after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, according to industry insiders consulted by Corporate Jet Investor.

    https://www.corporatejetinvestor.com/news/what-does-the-russian-invasion-mean-for-fuel-and-charter-prices-619/

    MARCH 2, 2022 0 PRINT THIS PAGE

       1 likes

  41. markh says:

    More proof today, as if any were needed, of the BBC’s desperation to sideline Christianity in this country. A date in Pointless was given as the secular CE rather than AD. Why are they so ashamed of our history and traditions? Why are they happy to offend Christians in order to appease everyone else? Every day I despise them more.

       19 likes

  42. Guest Who says:

    I merely note ‘Full Fact’ has ‘checked’ by asking an entity called ‘The BBC’.

    https://fullfact.org/online/clive-myrie-journalist-not-racially-attacked-ukraine/?

    So, sorted.

       6 likes

  43. Guest Who says:

    BBC Newsnight must miss him.

    Too.

       4 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/How_Not_To_Be_Wrong/OtaOEAAAQBAJ?hl=en

      How Not To Be Wrong
      The Art of Changing Your Mind
      By James O’Brien · 2021

      “In this deeply personal book, James turns the mirror on himself to reveal what he has changed his mind about and why, and explores how examining and changing our own views is our new civic duty in a world of outrage, disagreement and echo chambers. He writes candidly about the stiff upper lip attitudes and toxic masculinity that coloured his childhood, and the therapy and personal growth that have led him question his assumptions and explore new perspectives. Laying open his personal views on everything from racial prejudice to emotional vulnerability, from fat-shaming to tattoos, he then delves into the real reasons — often irrational or unconscious — he holds them.”

         2 likes

    • Sluff says:

      A close run thing between JoB and Paul Mason for the BBC Newshite award for ‘most avowed left winger employed by the BBC to act as an impartial BBC presenter’

      The equivalent award for right wingers was cancelled many years ago due to lack of candidates.

         8 likes

  44. MarkyMark says:

    The only MP who wears a t-shirt in parliament
    30 June 2017
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p057dqhz

    Meet Jared O’Mara. He’s the MP who knocked former deputy prime minister Nick Clegg off his Sheffield Hallam seat in the recent General Election.

    It was one of the most talked about scalpings from the early hours of 9 June and O’Mara himself didn’t expect to win.

    [Find a full transcript in the Related Links section below]

    The 35 year-old was born and bred in Sheffield and has cerebral palsy. A former activist, he knows his disability politics well and proudly says his impairment is part of him and it has helped create the man he is.

       2 likes

  45. Guest Who says:

    Anyone checked on Saz and Lurch?

       5 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      “He added that a review had found Mr Trump’s accounts to no longer pose a serious risk to public safety.” – Nick Clegg

      ……………….

      Nick Clegg apologises for tuition fees pledge
      This article is more than 10 years old
      Liberal Democrat leader apologises for making ‘a promise we were not absolutely sure we could deliver’
      Patrick Wintour, political editor, and Hélène Mulholland
      Thu 20 Sep 2012 10.46 BST
      1590
      A contrite Nick Clegg drew both scorn and applause on Wednesday when he apologised for promising at the last election to oppose any increase in tuition fees, saying: “We made a pledge, we did not stick to it, and for that I am sorry.”

         3 likes

  46. theisland says:

    Casciani doing his best to make it not about Islam.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64573216
    Prevent counter-terror scheme lambasted in review

    Brendan Cox, whose wife Jo Cox MP was murdered by an extreme right-wing attacker, said he had concerns about the review’s conclusions.
    “The Shawcross review risks damaging the programme instead of strengthening it,” he said.
    “Given his pre-existing outspoken views on Islam, his conclusion that we should focus on Islamists and less on the far right looks like bias not insight.
    “It will be used by Prevent’s opponents to ‘prove’ its supposed anti-Muslim slant. This review is a missed opportunity.”

    And Labour’s shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper said: “Counter-terror police and experts need to be able to follow the evidence on all kinds of terrorist and extremist threats, including Islamist, far right and other new and growing threats.
    “So it is counter-productive for the home secretary to try and create a hierarchy of extremism, or pit different kinds of extremism against each other, when all of them need to be fiercely challenged without fear or favour.

       7 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Jo Cox husband sorry amid claims he grabbed woman by throat and said ‘I want to f*** you’
      https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/brendan-cox-sexual-assault-jo-16847977

         6 likes

    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Kirsten Oswald (SNP) doing the same job, she wants those who decline to be injected with experimental biotech to be included in counter terrorism policies:

      “I also wonder if [Braverman] feels a shift in focus is needed to take into account more recent forms of extremism that have emerged since the report was commissioned, things like the QAnon ideology imported from the United States or incels or the anti-vax movement that sprung up during the pandemic.”

      The feature creep by media and government of what’s included in ‘extremism’ needs to be combatted wherever it appears.

      https://uk.news.yahoo.com/prevent-snp-mp-urges-home-171442443.html

         5 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Terminal – scary that idiots like that exist – but the kind of totalitarian state the UK is rapidly becoming is bound to stretch the definition of ‘terrorism ‘ . Wait to those who don’t pay their TV licence come within the definition – or anyone expressing unapproved views – all in thr name of ‘community safety ‘ of course

        But what really scares me is that I might predict 10 years from now but I usual over guess and it really becomes 5 years – maybe that’s what some the the red labour lot have got lined up .

        I worked out a difference between the red and blue labour lot . The blue lot are too dumb to recognise that when they are destroyed there will be no way back . Red labour will use every weapon to fix elections ranging from reduced voting ages – dodgy electoral registers – and the Biden method of counting ….

        There need never be an election again .

        One for the monitor file – 77brigade cc the rest as usual .needs watching ….

           10 likes

        • Terminal Moraine says:

          Fedup I made a similar point below, you may be right but even if the voting was above board the electorate’s views don’t matter any more.

          Hopefully people like the majority in Oxford who don’t want the 15min city will start to realise that their leaders are answering to different paymasters…

             9 likes

  47. Fedup2 says:

    Sounds like Mrs pixie balls needs better staff writers . Shawcross does not create a hierarchy of terrorism – he merely says that 80% of terrorist crim investigations is about Islam ….
    Amazing how MPs of all complexions sing the same approved song . It’s wishful thinking by fools like her that Blighty is full on 15 year old boys with Hitler fixations trawling the internet for IED recipes …. When it’s ‘Lone wolf ‘ mudlims putting their suicide vests together using their exclusive allahs YouTube ….

       12 likes

    • Terminal Moraine says:

      UN, EU etc, supported by governments and media, are working constantly to blur the borders. The masses won’t draw a distinction between beheading fanatics and homeopathy users, given enough state-endorsed propaganda.

      Await your new extremism rating determined by Google AI… it’s like your carbon emissions score except you can’t offset them via dodgy schemes.

         5 likes

  48. Guest Who says:

    That word again.

       9 likes

  49. Guest Who says:

    That’s a pass.

       6 likes