587 Responses to Midweek Open Thread

  1. Bones says:

    Reported in The Independent:
    “The BBC has admitted scenes in a TV documentary which showed a tribe building and moving into treehouses high up in the rainforest were staged by programme makers.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/bbc-fake-scenes-human-planet-documentary-tribe-living-rainforest-treehouse-a8289251.html

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  2. Up2snuff says:

    Ritula ‘100% accuracy’ Shah was very exercised, last night, on R4’s The News Tonight about the potential for a trade war between the US and China after the imposition of 25% tariffs by both sides.

    She obviously has forgotten the 40% tariffs that Peter Mandelson imposed on some Chinese made goods when he was EU Trade Commissioner.

    She then felt aggrieved by the fact that the Prime Minister & Foreign Secretary might have misled everyone or sown doubt & confusion or confusion & doubt over who was responsible for the Skripal poisonings.

    Ritula, there might have been less confusion & doubt if the BBC had been doing their job as news journalists and presenters properly from the outset.

    TWT: ‘In-depth reporting and analysis from a global perspective.’ < a flagrant breach, imv, of the Trade Descriptions Act.

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    • Nibor says:

      In public the Chinese are indignant and defiant .
      In private they wondered why they were allowed to get away with unfairness all this time but thought that one day a U.S. President would stop the one way deals .

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  3. Beeb Brother says:

    On their Facebook page they have a post about the ethnic make up of the US senate and Congress to coincide with the anniversary of Martin Luther King’s death.

    The comments beneath are almost entirely scathing. They no longer control the narrative and are laughable – there is nothing worse for an authority figure than being laughed at. People can also see how extremely dangerous their SJW insanity is. Who wants rape gangs, thought Police and a fallen capital?

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  4. Beeb Brother says:

    It’s wonderful and somewhat providential that the MSM sparked the whole ‘fake news’ meme just as they embarked on such a frenzy of fake news.

    What about Trump and Russia? Was it not meant to be Watergate times 50? How much hysteria did they devote to this? Now it turns out to have been nonsense they just subtly stop reporting on it, as if we might forget they ever mentioned it. We have not forgotten and the internet remembers everything.

    Once trust has been broken so spectacularly it cannot be won back. That we plebs dared oppose them still rankles. They have sneered their way to irrelevance as we shall never forget the depths of their betrayal.

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  5. vlad says:

    Read and weep: a small everyday tale that encapsulates so much that’s wrong in this country, and with the police:

    “Police force severs all ties with its own male voice choir because it does not promote gender equality”.

    The Derbyshire Constabulary Male Voice Choir has been forced to change name, uniform and sever its connection with the police. Why? For not having enough wimmin in it. (Perhaps there’s a clue as to why in the title, Duh!)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5578639/Police-force-severs-ties-male-voice-choir.html

    Or on the beeb news webshite, if you can bear it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-43646802

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    • Lobster says:

      Would the Trans ones be tenors or sopranos?

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    • Demon says:

      vlad, the Munchkin on Sky said something to the effect of “it would be better if they included female voices, but that’s just my opinion” with her voice trailing away as she realised that she had revealed her (not very well hidden at any time) left-wing bias.

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      • vlad says:

        … and total ignorance of music. I suppose she only listens to Stormzy and other c-Rap ‘music’.

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    • Sluff says:

      Lucy
      How about a couple of definitions.
      ‘Fake News’ – used by the BBC to describe any news that that the BBC does not like and does not fit its narrative.
      ‘Artistic Licence’ – used by the BBC to describe fake news created by the BBC to fit its narrattive.

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  6. BRISSLES says:

    Fedup2……….Briss says in an earlier post that the stabbing in my bit of east londonistan is the latest incident .

    Feddy, I didn’t !!!! I know you gave me credit, but it woz GWF ! (Um, Specsavers ?)

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  7. G.W.F. says:

    Soon to be aired on the BBC
    A

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    • G says:

      G.W.F.
      But no match for the ‘thugs of the World’ – the Russians.
      Alexander Litvinenko – No, no no we didn’t poison him;
      Flight MH 370 – No, no, no, we were nothing to do with the shooting down of the plane;
      State sponsored drugging of athletes – No, no, no the state had nothing to do with that.
      And now………..
      Sergei Skripal – No, no, no, we were nothing to do with the poisoning of him and his daughter.
      I’ve got some neighbours who come from the Former Soviet Union nearby. This blatant lying is also a characteristic of theirs. Must be something to do with communism, some sort of infection?

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  8. BRISSLES says:

    Here’s a little light relief away from all the rubbish today, and for Russell Crowe lovers. He’s having an auction (to fund his divorce) of memorabilia items. But judging by whats on offer in the catalogue, he clearly had a pantechnicon on standby at the end of every film, after hoovering up everything he could lay his hands on. Who knew ?
    https://www.sothebysaustralia.com.au/catalogue/AU0822?rm=list&page=3

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  9. Beeb Brother says:

    Lammy was on the BBC recently moaning about how racist Oxford and Cambridge are for not letting in more black kids.

    I would suggest that stabbing each other to death is not ideal preparation for Oxbridge interviews. Perhaps try reading the classics instead.

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    • Lobster says:

      They might have read the classics, but perhaps they got the inspiration from Shakespeare’s line “Et tu Brute” in Julius Caesar?

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  10. MarkyMark says:

    UK Politics … Comedy that writes itself …
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    order-order.com

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    • gb123 says:

      “UK Politics … Comedy that writes itself …”

      My, how the Iraqi information minister has changed!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Lammy must be wearing his cycle clips again

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    • G says:

      Many are ‘LED’ to believe it is just black kids that are responsible as victims / perpetrators.
      LBC provide many of the names –

      Concealing the involvement of junior members of the RoP only going about what their leader instructs them to do?

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      • vlad says:

        Probably off promoting islam somewhere.

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      • vlad says:

        Or too busy making London Underground ads Sharia-compliant to bother about murders going through the roof.

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      • ToobiWan says:

        Looks like someone has complained to YouTube or LBC, G, video is no longer available. Could it be the missing mini mayor of Stabbington on Thames?
        “They seek him here, they seek him there; is he in Heaven or his he in Hell. that damned elusive Koranderth(a)el”

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      • G says:

        No video so I’ll clarify the point I was making: the LBC commentator read out many of the names of the dead, stabbed or shot. A good half were clearly islamic i.e. Mo’s etc. Is it just me or in the absence of available names the MSN always allude to black kids with no mention of junior ropers?

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  11. StewGreen says:

    Talking Pictures the channel which is not right-on , cos it shows mostly pre 1975 films
    , will be featured on the Radio 4 Film prog in 7 days time.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew
      Bloody love it .ta al beeb will bitch about diversity as usual I suppose

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  12. MarkyMark says:

    The Guardian should not be allowed to push around fake news, says @DouglasKMurray (people are asking the tough questions)

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  13. MarkyMark says:

    When DAVID LAMMY and the BBC meet …

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  14. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    Women in NHS paid 23% less than men is the latest lie by the bBBC’s feminazis.
    What they mean is “Women in NHS paid exactly the same as men, but there are fewer women in top jobs”.

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    • thehoiman says:

      I wonder what the so-called pay gap would be, percentage-wise, if you used the same distortion on the bBBC’s figures?

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    • Sluff says:

      The solution is simple. Give some of the top surgeons jobs as cleaners. Gender pay gap problem solved. And the ensuing waiting lists can be blamed on the evil Tories underfunding the NHS.
      Its a win win for the Far Left.

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Home Office ofgici Shamsu Iqbal falsified records of 400 illegal migrants so they could stay in UK

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  16. Foscari says:

    The big story on the BBC website today is TIGER WOODS!!
    “Tiger Woods is teeing off. ” The next headline ” Tiger Woods is
    one Under!!!” Tiger Woods is one over .” Is this going to
    be the main headline story on the BBC for the next four days?

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    • Foscari says:

      The BBC have CHANGED their leader story now .
      “WOODS OFF THE PACE” is now the leader. I suppose if
      the BBC keeps this up for four days , that’s if ” Tiger” even
      qualifies for the third round, that it will mean that there
      are not more important feature stories. Or does it?

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      • G says:

        Foscari,
        As it all falls apart around us, our “Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster” will ramp up the sport coverage for a cheap distraction.

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  17. Sluff says:

    A quick update on the BBC 1 6 pm news. That is, the BBC topsy turvy version.
    1. Sadiq Khan states that the knife attacks in London are a ‘national problem’
    2. David Lammy is upset that his constituents are not safe in his constituency.
    The ‘significantly over-represented’ black community in these crimes seems to have gone un-noticed by these gentlemen……and by the bBBC newsroom.
    3. A prominent filmed interview with the cousin of the burglar killed while burgling a 78 year old who is surprised the ‘killer’ of their lovely relative has been released.

    George Orwell’s dystopian fantasy world is real, and here.
    BBC News….where war is peace, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Sadiq not a happy bunny, one suspects.

      https://order-order.com/2018/04/05/khan-knife-crime-car-crash-mayor-admits-hasnt-met-bereaved-families/

      I actually find the ‘meet the victims’ tally for busy pols Mishalesque in its direness, but pols deal it out so pols must suck it up. And venal, partisan media stir it all the time, especially the bbc.

      Speaking of which, Lammy was top of the slot for Global Tripe, served up as some political sage rather than a career chancer looking down the barrel of too many years playing the race card unchallenged. A male Abbott, and possibly even more dense.

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      • Guest Who says:

        That would be this sure footed political genius:

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        • Guest Who says:

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          • Nibor says:

            David ,

            It’s hard to spot a policeman ( 1000 points in an I Spy book ) so here are some tips ;

            They are above average height

            They wear a uniform and helmet

            The helmet is sometimes domed , increasing their height

            The uniform consists of high visibility clothing

            The word POLICE will be on it .

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Guest – Lammy is after the mayor job as it’s a faster way to the peerage . He keeps saying he has been an mp for 18 years – and what has he improved ?

        Police forming a task force so that’s good then

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          He’s carrying a fair bit of timber these days, he really ought to start using that bike we bought for him.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          He used to be a good MP and I write as a conservatively inclined voter. I think he is a prime example of someone being ‘corrupted’ (maybe just in brain usage and in political thinking – not necessarily financially or other ways) by ‘the system’.

          Once upon a time, David Lammy was a very independent thinker and speaker.

          I cannot help but wonder whether the pressures of Momentum lurking in the background affect his present-day approach?

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  18. Thoughtful says:

    I notice that the real head of State of the USA is in the country at the present time.
    Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has apparently dropped Jared Kushner in it after allegedly bragging that he handed him secret information about who his enemies are, and corruption within his Kingdom.

    It has been reported in the Mail, and I’m sure the BBC will be bound to follow any further accusation which might damage the Trump Presidency.

    Strange though how the MSM failed to ever report the last time when the Crown Prince opened his big gob to tell the Petra News agency in Jordan that his country was proud to be funding up to 20% of Hilary Clintons campaign expenses. This is of course illegal, and when Petra news was challenged they made a pathetic excuse their site had been hacked and someone had placed the news story there !

    https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Saudis-Fund-20-of-Clinton-Presidential-Campaign-Top-Prince-20160613-0006.html

    https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/news-agency-claims-hacker-planted-story-about-hillary-clinton-campaign-links-saudi-funding-1565833

    Comments such as “Is it really plausible to say that hackers would hack into a 3rd rate middle eastern news service to plant a story like this? What percent of people in Jordan would be aware that it is illegal for a foreign national to fund a US political candidate?” hit the nail on the head.

    Interesting that Clinton confidant and close aide John Podesta is also a Saudi stooge.

    Mohammed Bin Salman also went on to state that his country donates funds to both the Republican and Democratic parties although he did not say what his country expects in return for all this funding.

    It doesn’t take an enormous leap to suspect that the Kingdom also funds the Tory & Labour party in the UK, and I think we all know exactly what the Saudis get in return for their ‘generosity’.

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  19. Fedup2 says:

    Albeeb gently quizzing the mayor about his failure to do anything about the. 55 murders except blame central govt.he hasn’t spoke to any next. of kin or the home sec.

    Yet when it came to the visit by president trump you couldn’t shut him up.

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      When London voted for Khan-was it not a given that the police and transport had been delegated to him, not kept in useless Mays or Graylings picnic baskets?
      So these strikes these stabbings-it`s all KHANS FAULT.
      He got voted in to deal with them if only the Tories would slash and finish this useless lump off for us.
      But-as with Grenfell,the Tories fail to nail him for his role in all this, as well as the Greens and Labour.
      Politics was supposed to be about this, but the Tories are useless, spineless and without point or principle.

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    • Lover of Truth says:

      If Boris was still the mayor the Beeb would be calling for his head on a daily basis. I despise the BBC & everything it stands for.

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  20. davylars says:

    On a lighter note.
    BBC breakfast this morning on the sofa, Nagga and Charlie
    This was like an episode of Blue Peter. Juvenile TV. Not for grown ups
    They had some young girl making Slime. Yes slime
    Only problem was that it wasn’t working how it was supposed to.
    You would have thought that the producers would have made sure that she had the correct ingredients.
    Only problem is, they hadn’t.
    At one point she said “it’s just like sniffing glue.” Great comment if any children were actually watching.
    Anyway after five minutes of nauseating television she finally gave up.
    I really thought I was watching CCBC..

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    • JimS says:

      In my bouncing around the web I recall it being said that North Americans use Boric Acid in theirs, something that every household had in the bathroom cabinet when TV only came through two channels.

      The Mummynetters now complain that you can’t get it here ‘because of the EU’. I don’t know if a) Boric Acid is really needed or b) If MummyNet is right, but if they are right our Beeb won’t be saying.

      If you want slime pick up a slug!

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      • BRISSLES says:

        BBC Breakfast is just an earlier version of the One Show – neither of which I watch; both are targeting an audience with only one brain cell.

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  21. Beeb Brother says:

    BBC London: knife crime and talking about how to prevent terror attacks, of which there were four last year.

    So much diversity to celebrate. I almost feel like I have had enough diversity.

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  22. G.W.F. says:

    On knife crime I am awaiting Treezer to say ‘Enough is enough’ and then take steps to see that it is not reported, As with cars that mount pavements with no follow up story young people will find that knives have got stuck into them with no further inquiry. People who make a fuss and want something done about it will be demonized as far right extremists.

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  23. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    Mark Easton has lost it. His rambling piece London killings: No easy answers to gun and knife crime goes from lecturing us about babies dying to the Middle Ages, US Death Row and Queensbury rules in boxing.
    And he misses the obvious point. There is an easy answer. If the Jamaicans want to behave like they’re in Jamaica, and the Somalis want to act like they’re in Somalia, just send them back. And so on.
    London killings: easy answer.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Sir
      Al beeb not big on right and wrong , personal restraint or responsibility or temper control these days .perhaps some cultures don’t have those.

      It’s always some other buggars ‘ fault.

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Sorry Sir_Arthur, just read your piece. I put a piece further down. Easton’s article was a typical nothing to worry about diversion.

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  24. Holly Selassie says:

    The great thing about not having a telly is that you can imagine just how stupid and confused the BBC newsreaders on the radio must be, as they have to read and listen to this stuff, this news -output, product, or whatever they call it. S`not news anyway.
    Was in my car after 6pm tonight.
    We had nearly ten minutes of knife crime in London followed by a few minutes on Grenfell.
    I saw an elephant lumber from one circus ring and right into another. But the BBC hacks like Easton or Zeb simply fail to link their adjoining stories together. Same bloody issue I`d have thought. But no-only Tory austerity and callous cuts seemed to be all that they could see as a link between the two stories.
    How far must they take this segmentation and Cyclops-like view of London knife crime and Grenfell? Will the BBC ever again try to do other than refuse to mention just WHO is doing the stabbings, who is getting stabbed , where and why?
    All they choose to say is that it`s a public health virus thingy like Dianne Abbott said the other day. Oh-and babies are at more rick of dying than teenagers. Which means, er -well, just sayin!
    Crazy crap.
    Lawless imported scum who pay no rent, mooch in Kensington hotels and are in Corbyns bucket brigade who stab in turf wars, and have never been dealt by schools, dads or youth services.
    But the NHS mental services need to be better.
    If you say so Mark Abbott/Dianne Easton.
    Do the BBC even think on what they`re positing? Or have they just get through the news with coded thanks from our enemies in Islam, Lib-Labourland and the EU?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Holly
      The killings have been going on for quite some time but main stream media couldn’t be asked . Too busy doing the Russia stuff and running down the President of the USA.

      So now every little incident is being reported – minor stabbing in my bit of londonistan this afternoon and three 15 year olds tonight in Mile End. Sadly this is normal for what goes on in Londonistan .

      I don’t see it as a statistical spike . It’s a new normK which will fade from msm when they find something more interesting . Presumably the next Islamic terrorist attack .

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  25. pugnazious says:

    I’m sure you all saw the report last week….‘BBC ‘ugly truth’ memo haunts corporation’. It suggested that the BBC thought immigration so beneficial to Britain that migrant crime, rapes, murders, robbery, were the acceptable price of flinging open our borders to all and sundry….you may of course have realised that was in fact a rehashed story about Facebook…

    ‘A Facebook executive’s memo that claimed the “ugly truth” was that anything it did to grow was justified has been made public, embarrassing the company.

    The 2016 post said that this applied even if it meant people might die as a result of bullying or terrorism.’

    But why the outrage from the BBC et al about Facebook’s appalling memo? It is in fact the same principle that the BBC applies to immigration which must be celebrated and championed whatever the cost.

    Take for instance knife crime. We’ve had days of sincere and earnest BBC tripe about the rise in violent crime being due to cuts in the police, cuts to youth services, cuts to mental health services, gangs and drugs…and today we had the beauty…Brexit got the blame….apparently the government is too wrapped up in Brexit to deal with knife crime.

    What I didn’t hear was the truth until today…from David Lammy….the BBC reports his words….it’s not just the anonymous ‘drug gangs’ the BBC usually mentions but immigrant drug gangs…

    Drug gangs controlled by Eastern European criminals are fuelling the rising tide of violent crime in London, a Labour MP has claimed.

    Tottenham MP David Lammy said drugs were as “prolific as ordering a pizza”, comparing the situation to McMafia, a BBC drama about Russian gangsters.

    Of course we have known that for years…so why didn’t the BBC presenters, just once, link crime to immigrants? Last year the NCA said this:

    “Criminals from the Balkans are increasingly expanding their network of influence, forming direct relationships with cocaine suppliers in Latin America. The threat faced from Albanian crime groups is significant. London is their primary hub, but they are established across the UK…. it warns that the impact of Albanian criminals was particularly troubling because of their readiness to use serious violence….there was a danger innocent people could be killed or injured in the Albanian gang warfare.”

    Asked about gang infighting, Horne said: “It spreads beyond that. The violence is often used to enforce the model of working. We are concerned that there are innocent bystanders in this.”

    How is it the BBC forgot that so quickly?

    Lammy is being slightly economical with the truth….it’s not just Albanians, it’s many groups of immigrants including Somalis, Congolese and Vietnamese.

    Why the rise in knife crime?….

    “In the last 10 years, since the Somalis and the Congolese came to London, they taught us a whole new level of violence,” he said.
    “These people had seen family members mutilated so when they said, ‘I’m gonna smash you up,’ us guys would be shouting, ‘Yo blud, wot you mean?’ and they would just pull out a blade and juk [stab] you in the chest. It upped the speed and level of violence for us British-born guys. We had to arm up to protect ourselves. It created an upward spiral.”

    Not just London…it is nationwide…

    African gangsters armed with bayonets are flooding Scotland with deadly crack cocaine
    IMMIGRANT thugs came to Scotland two years ago and have built £1million-a-year drug empire.

    Not just Albanians or Africans…

    Police ‘can’t cope’ as Vietnamese flood drugs trade
    Gangs make millions by targeting London with cannabis grown in houses rented from unsuspecting landlords

    It’s not just stabbings or shootings it’s trafficking, slavery and sexual exploitation….

    ‘For several years, Tung was one of Britain’s cannabis slaves: a hidden group of exploited children, locked up alone and forced to tend plants in converted houses, in dangerous conditions. Like many other trafficked child cannabis gardeners, when the flat was raided, he was sent to prison.

    The story of how much of the UK’s cannabis is grown sounds too far-fetched to be true: an international network of traffickers brings teenage boys from Vietnam to become enslaved gardeners in British suburbs. Yet every few weeks, another farm is discovered and new arrests are made.’

    I’m sure the BBC’s Mark Easton thinks the proliferation of drugs and the subsequent highly damaging consequences, the murders, the slavery, the prostitution, the trafficking are all a price worth paying for the free movement of people in a world without borders…….such lovely diversity and a cosmopolitan feel to the country now.

    Mark Easton who sat on a nice BBC sofa one morning and told us immigration was unstoppable [no it’s not…just ask Hungary and Poland] and that we would just have to get used to it. Of course it’s not his kids getting stabbed, raped or wasted on drugs is it?

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    • JimS says:

      Yes but think of the growth in GDP!

      (Didn’t the EU sting us for a larger contribution because of these extra-legal activities?)

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    • G says:

      Pug,
      ““Criminals from the Balkans are increasingly expanding their network of influence, forming direct relationships with cocaine suppliers in Latin America. The threat faced from Albanian crime groups is significant. London is their primary hub, but they are established across the UK…. it warns that the impact of Albanian criminals was particularly troubling because of their readiness to use serious violence….there was a danger innocent people could be killed or injured in the Albanian gang warfare.””
      We’ve got the Croatians migrating to the UK to go as from June thanks to our Government. The Croatians specialism apparently, is gun running. Throw that lot in the existing sewer pot and, the Government will have, “lit the fuse paper and retired to a safe distance (to their protected existence)”. Mismanagement shows no bounds.

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  26. Zelazek says:

    Lammy made a comment on the news tonight to the effect that if four people were stabbed in some leafy town in the shires, something would be getting done about it.
    I was trying to think of the last time four people in separate incidents were stabbed in Virginia Water or Chalfont St Peter or some place like that. Damned if I could remember any such thing ever happening.

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    • ToobiWan says:

      Lammy probably thinks Midsomer Murders is a documentary, Z.

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      • thirdoption says:

        John Humphries: “Who succeeded Henry VIIIth to the throne?”
        Lammy: “Henry VIIth”

        Comedy Gold.

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  27. Dover Sentry says:

    London has reached an interesting point in it’s history. Maybe a tipping point?

    London has never before known murder on this scale.

    What action can the authorities take to stop the murders?

    These killers will not respond to ‘initiatives’ or hashtags.

    Somewhat similar to terrorism?

    Will our BBC take up our fight for the British way of life?

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    • Loobyloo says:

      No

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    • wronged says:

      ‘Will our BBC take up our fight for the British way of life?’

      Doversentry,
      Being anti British, the BBC would have to support everything they currently oppose.

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  28. Loobyloo says:

    C’mon Al Beeb, you’re a bit behind with this one
    Gay people go to ‘hell’, says Australian rugby star Israel Folau
    http://news.sky.com/story/gay-people-go-to-hell-says-australian-rugby-star-israel-folau-11317953

    And this one for that matter:
    https://news.sky.com/story/malaysian-university-contest-to-convert-gay-students-sparks-anger-11316804

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  29. Guest Who says:

    Critics are saying.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I blame care in the community. Once upon a time Mr Adonis could have spent his days basket weaving at a nice place in the country with high walls. He’d have been much happier, and so would we.

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      • thirdoption says:

        I’m actually quite curious Rob,

        If you have a democratic system whereby, in order to serve in Government, someone has to be elected by the people on a one-person, one-vote basis, then you completely ignore it and promote a total nobody to the House of Lords so that they can attempt to destroy the democratic will of the people, you’d say that the system was corrupt.
        Yet here we are, allowing the BBC to give this idiot prime time.

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  30. taffman says:

    \\”Hackney stabbing: Two boys held after man dies in street”//
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43649193
    And there’s more !
    “London stabbings: Five more hurt in attacks around city”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43659952
    Will we hear enough is enough or lessons to be learned?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Taff
      As I wrote before al beeb and others have just woken up to the new normal here on londonistan . My local papers reports these incidents every day – and that just covers two boroughs and there are thirty more .
      I’m sure plenty of these kids live in their own bubble and do get stuff of the web – but that can’t be blamed for short tempers and confrontation . The motives will range from accident to assassination and talking drugs and gangs is an easy default .

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  31. Tabs says:

    A piece on knife crime of the BBC News Channel at 11pm, “….a study found a high number of men in gangs having mental illness…”.

    All we need know is a few stabbings to be reported as “lone wolves” and then follow that by not reporting it at all – just like Islamic terrorism.

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  32. StewGreen says:

    Tues : Times snippets
    – Frontpage story
    Police procedures are so screwed up,some forces are actually training officers to hide evidence.
    They mistakenly think it’s OK to put info that is helful to the defencen on the list of “sensitive unused material”.

    – Can this weird story be true ?
    Girls falsely accuse teacher
    Instead of just quickly dealing with the matter, the authorities remove their newly adopted child .. and took a year, so the couple never got her back.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5574923/Teacher-falsely-accused-groping-students-adopted-child-removed.html

    – International aid: Government fund ‘could be causing harm’
    Study of UK aid says ” too many programmes showed signs of basic design errors with poor delivery and a lack of quality control.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43572783

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  33. StewGreen says:

    More snippets
    – Oxford’s Prof of demography again sends in a letter to the Times
    ‘How come the NHS needs masses of foreign staff, when all the other health services in the EU don’t ?’
    ..I’m guessing they are forced to, cos except for France and Spain. people in other countries don’t speak their languages fluently.
    So Finnish health workers tend to be Finnish.

    – Funny how the Stormy Daniels accusations haven’t had much impact.
    Yesterday was 50 year anniversary of Martin Luther King
    ..and the media chose not to report on his many extra-marital affairs.

    – Town Hall of Eye Suffolk renovated, then yobs vandals paintings of “toffs” before it actually opens
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-43627173

    – Are these stats right “Last year 36,000 men sought help about the urge to view child images ”
    jeez There’s only about 36 million adults in the country
    So that stat means 1 in 1000 adults sought help
    but since half of adults are women, that’s 1 in 500 men …in a single year
    That would be like 1 in 50 en in a decade
    ..I suspect that there is some double counting going on (Charities get more money if stats are high)
    http://www.theweek.co.uk/92715/number-seeking-help-to-stop-viewing-child-abuse-images-soars

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  34. vlad says:

    Let’s get this straight: when the police implement stop and search to reduce black-on-black knifings and shootings, it’s racist. When they don’t… it’s racist.

    And of course everyone’s to blame except the, erm, ‘communities’ themselves.

    Doubly, trebly, quadruply upside down and back to front logic. Worthy of the beeb. And the preposterous Abbopotamus.

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    • thirdoption says:

      By using the term Abbopotamus you paint a picture of someone who is fat, lazy, stupid and spends their days doing nothing useful.
      But I believe she is one of our MP’s so how can this be?

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  35. Loobyloo says:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43652428
    Japanese women ordered from sumo ring during first aid

    Dear me, talk about poking your nose in where it’s not wanted. Another waste of space from the world’s best – get rid of it please.

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  36. Loobyloo says:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43655748
    London killings: No easy answers to gun and knife crime

    Mark Easton says ‘By far the most likely year of life in which we might be unlawfully killed is not in our teens or early 20s but our first year – babies under one are more than twice as likely to be murdered as a 20-year-old.’

    I’d like to see the statistics for this. Was that calculated before this year’s rise in stabbings/shootings? Is it a stat for London or for the whole of the UK/world? Are they comparing like with like? Not very good with stats, but are they saying that more babies under one have been killed?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Yes infanticide is relatively common, when you give birth, but don’t want your baby,
      4% of victims are under 1
      11.5% are 20-24 ie about 2.3% for each year 20,21,22,23,24

      But by picking just 1 year Easton is spinning ..if you looked at 0 to 14 compared to 15 to 29 , you are far more likely to get murdered in that 2nd 15 years than the first 26% vs 11%
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      source : https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/compendium/focusonviolentcrimeandsexualoffences/yearendingmarch2015/chapter2homicide

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      • Loobyloo says:

        Thanks Stew, very helpful. I see the statistic now – as a fraction of the population, proportionally more are ‘unlawfully’ killed. That leads to a few questions/statements – those kids who have been stabbed/shot – no consolation to them as they’d already got through the baby stage. Also, it needs a breakdown of ‘unlawfully killed’. How many of those under 1 year old are stabbed/shot? If the comparitively high rate is as a result of ‘unwanted babies’ then hardly a stat to compare to. It reminds me of the old ‘ you are much more likely to die in a car accident blah blah blah, than a terrorist attack’. Just meant to divert attention from the problem at hand.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Depending on your viewpoint, rather a lot of babies under the age of 0 get murdered: 185,824 abortions in England and Wales in 2015.

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  37. BRISSLES says:

    I fail to understand how so many BAEM can afford to live in London when its out of the reach of the rest of the population. Clearly the Windrush generation were brought over and accommodation in the capital was given via the local authorities, but their offspring and following on generations ? how do they manage to afford to live there (benefits apart). Few people can afford to buy within the North and South Circular road, and yet the capital is heaving with migrants from all parts of the globe, who always seem to find housing.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Council houses, housing association houses, housing benefit, illegal subletting, garden sheds, the list goes on.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Granted, there’s subletting and garden sheds, but isn’t it amazing that council/housing assoc properties can be found within the confines of London for those who have canoed it across the Med ? and yet the rest of the country is struggling to find homes for the indigenous population. I queried this with my brother (who is a Councillor in a very large and expanding town north of the M25), and staggeringly they have only 400 council houses, so forget about going on a waiting list !

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  38. Payne by name says:

    Okay, so let me get this right. David Lammy calls on the home secretary and the PM to do something about the rising murder rate in London whilst ignoring that the actual mayor and the majority of London boroughs are Labour controlled.

    This isn’t a national problem (though Manchester seems to be suffering a similar fate with a similar Labour majority influence) so surely the problem lies with those in charge in these areas – which erm would include you Mr Lammy.

    What’s the point in having local councils, MP’s and even Mayor’s if the shit going down in their areas can’t be attributed to their failings?

    It reminds me of the US, where the worst, most violent places – Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore – have stricter gun laws and have been ruled by Democrats for decades and yet it’s still the fault of those evil Republicans.

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  39. vlad says:

    “Viktor Orban – The man who thinks Europe has been invaded”

    1. He’s not the only one.

    2. It has.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Viktor_Orban

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  40. Loobyloo says:

    Vlad, I was just trying to post about that article and gave up after losing my stuff. Rather a comprehensive hatchet job, I thought. Do you think the Beeb don’t like him? ????
    My favourite bit was this, regarding the murderous terrorist scum of the Charlie Hebdo massacre:
    ‘The troubled family background of the perpetrators, their upbringing in an orphanage, the radicalisation they succumbed to – all these were of no interest to Orban.

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    • vlad says:

      Yes, that passage struck me too. It’s the ‘social worker’ (or Socialist Worker?) view of the world, and terrorism in particular: poor diddums, has society been horrid to you, is that why you murder non-muslims?
      It makes the murderers the vicitms, and the beeb love it.

      Wish we had an Orban here, who heroically resisted the Soviet invasion and is now resisting another.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      ‘The troubled family background of the perpetrators, their upbringing in an orphanage, the radicalisation they succumbed to – all these were of no interest to Orban.
      The problem with liberals is that they can’t tell the difference between being deprived as opposed to being depraved. Perhaps because they have no personal experience of the former but plenty of the latter.

         13 likes

    • Payne by name says:

      Yes, I saw the same passage and thought ‘and I bet they aren’t of interest to the poor victims either’.

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  41. Moodswing6 says:

    It really was difficult to watch the 2nd episode of the BBC 2 documentary ‘Hospital’ . Sensationalism and manipulated BBC crafted shit. Cancer is guaranteed to cause deep emotional stress for everyone involved and this episode focused on some of the worst cancers you can get. Take your cameras into any hospital anywhere in the world and this is going to wring anyone out emotionally. The focus of this particular episode was about target times waiting for treatment and the lack of head and neck cancer surgeons. This is where increasing the pay scale to attract the right people might help ease the problem and where for once throwing extra funds into the NHS targeting the right area would make sense. The pay rate was somewhere in the range of £77 to £103 thousand. This is not adequate for the
    Incredible individuals who train for years and then work under exhausting conditions performing the most complicated procedures. Compare the salaries
    at the BBC, sitting on your ass reading an auto cue and you can earn £150 grand up to a couple of million pounds a year, plus perks and who knows what other freebies. On top of all that they start a bitch war about salary inequalities squealing and crying about how poor they are.

    It also seems that EU citizens and Muslims don’t get cancer in Nottingham.

       41 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Good point. Do you employ sixteen cancer surgeons or one Gary Lineker reading an autocue? Tough choice.

         18 likes

  42. vlad says:

    Here’s a little test: search “London gang murders” in Google Images and you will be confronted with a sea of, erm, diverse and vibrant ethnic mugshots. Presumably their hands are diverse and vibrant too.

    Now look at the picture the racist beebistan use to illustrate their ‘article’ on their webshite.

    (At time of writing. They might change it if they read this.)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics

    man-with-gun-robbing-drug-dealers-picture-id88621286

       39 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      vlad: “(At time of writing. They might change it if they read this.)”

      I am interested in that.

      I think our friend maxi might be able to arrange for it to happen. Not directly. He has denied being a BBC employee.

      I suspect that he has friends who work at the BBC. They may be – < please note the word 'may' – involved in adjusting BBC 'errors & omissions' via some post-production before broadcasts are added to iPlayer and to material on the BBC web-site.

      maxi may have given the game away on this recently with the content of one of his posts.

         17 likes

    • AsISeeIt says:

      The enormous journalistic resources at the disposal of the BBC and yet they sit at their desks and pull up Getty Images to illustrate a report ?

      I wonder, did the BBC (or rather Licence Payers) have to pay a royalty for that pic ?

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      • AsISeeIt says:

        I’m reminded of a BBC article some years ago by their then ‘domestic affairs’ reporter Dominic Casciani. The poor chap was mugged on the street. As luck would have it the offender was caught and prosecuted. Our Dom wrote a touching piece about meeting and coming to terms with his attacker. Naturally the BBC on-line article was illustrated as usual with library photos of a pair of pale and pasty white hands in cuffs. His mugger was named and a quick google at the time found a local newspaper report of the crime with mugger mug shot and lo and behold… well, let’s put it this way – if those cuffed maulers in the pic used by the BBC really belonged to the mugger then he’d had a double transplant. The wonders of medical science, eh.

           30 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        AISI, you mean like here ….. :
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43414777 ?

        When I saw that photo, I thought “That looks faked. It is so unreal, wonky horizon apart.” (For example, it appears it is a SevenUp bottle minus the label, it appears to contain no fizzy liquid, the child does not appear to be actually drinking, etc., etc..)

        That reflects badly on the BBC although it is a Library pic indeed, from Getty Images.

           8 likes

    • Beltane says:

      If they are planning on up-dating the photo maybe they could replace the Gamo (Spanish) air pistol with something more realistic?

         5 likes

  43. Pounce says:

    The bBC haven’t got round to reporting this. But a unarmed black man was shot dead by police the other night, last night hundreds marched in protest at this unjustified killimg . After he was shot, police found no weapon only a pipe. In fact the guardian headline is police shoot Blackman 9 times whilst carrying a pipe. And then the police did something different for once they released the video

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  44. AsISeeIt says:

    Yesterday BBC Breakfast told me most emphatically at the anniversary of the death of Martin Luther King Jnr that he had been “… assassinated by a White Supremacist !”

    Now this morning in what terms will our national broadcaster talk about what they rather loosely describe as “The Manchester Arena Attack” ? (but I guess we as the audience are expected to have to figure out what it is they are talking about, right?)

    Clearly I’m making a false equivalence with what I could term the Lorraine Motel, Memphis Attack because the BBC are in the habit of avoiding any mention of the bomber (oh, we had almost forgotten a bomb was involved), his motivation or allegiance (perish the thought), terrorism (God, sorry… Allah forbid) etc etc.

    Today the obfiscatory minded BBC editors play am absolute blinder – cue a bizarre film report from Tim Muffett (an oddly appropriate moniker) featuring the brother of a Manchester victim who has… wait for it… designed a video game exploring his grief.

    The best part about this (no doubt from a BBC point of view) deflecting any consideration of the circumstances of the terror attack is “No names or real places or events are named”

    Halle – bloody – lujuh !

       17 likes

  45. Oaknash says:

    Vlad – They really cant help themselves can they. I loved the article with the first picture being the concerned (non white) David Lammy – obviously doing battle with uncaring authorities and these brutish white kidz who just want to stab and shoot each other.

    Whilst the race hustlers like Lammy will continue to use these situations to increase their own profile this situation can only get worse. And throwing money and resources at the situation will only make a small dent in the situation.

    As we all know here, this really is a case of “chickens coming home to roost”. For years Government has been quite happy to let the criminals play the race card when dealng with any crime related to some of the youth of specific ethnic communities.
    It has also allowed and encouraged the break up of families and the “one parent situation” to be almost desirable (than the boring man and wife partnership)
    And of course Governments have allowed the immigration floodgates to thrown wide open with the importation of many 3rd world attitudes (with anyone who dares to critiscise to be labelled a waycist).
    In addition for years the MSM (cheerled by the BBC ) has continually indulged itself in trying to be “down with the kidz” and “cool” and “keeping it real” without bothering to seriously look at the resultant issues from encouraging a culture based on entitlement, laziness, greed, misogyny and of course low expectations. It is a band wagon the liberals have found it irresistible to jump onto and now it is about to crash and will be biting us all on the arse.

    In the medium term – I expect there may be some attempts to dilute the problem by trying to re-locate some of these “vibrant communities” to other areas so the rest of us can feel the deep joy of multiculturalism and of course to be daily “challenged” by our own prejudice.

    Where this is all going – who can tell. But certainly as things stand I can see little chance of any radical improvement unless we have a radical change in policy.

    Will this ever happen – no. With the “Common Purpose” liberals at the helm of so many of our institutions, we will be allowed to apply a few sticking plasters, but in reality this is exactly the sort of chaos these globalist stooges want so eventually they can arise from from the ashes of our broken society and eventually lead us into the sunny highlands of the harmonious, globalist dictatorship.

    Make no mistake these bastards are in it for the long game. And the situation now facing London (like so many) was entirely predictable.
    It has only been ignored due to a combination of the political cynicism of some and political cowardice of others.

       32 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Oak
      Strange that you can sit on a keyboard and explain where we are and what the future will be when the Powers That Be flail around just blaming each other .
      I completely agree with your analysis . Law Enforcement gave up years ago and instead went multi agency in order to share the responsibility and more importantly blame

      The current mayor of London has become a pop corn job – just sit back and watch if you’re looking for comedy . His tweet about his aim to reduce stop and search would finish him in a decent country but it’s not any more.

         14 likes

      • Oaknash says:

        FE2 – Thats the thing it is all so blindingly obvious. I know I allude to this again and again. But if one thing comes out this it is the shallowness and cowardice of most of the mainstream political class.
        In their heart of hearts they must all know that the policies re migration, crime and political correctness are completely self destructive to our society – yet they are afraid to say the truth just in case they get a few bad column inches in the Gaurdian or a verbal chiding from that smug little twat on Toady – Robinson or the achingly “right on” Mishal Hussein.

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  46. Up2snuff says:

    Not bias but sheer BBC incompetence.

    Justin Webb interviews Malcolm Rifkind on the Skripal poisoning on TOADY just after 7am. I have great respect for Malcolm Rifkind but he, too, seems to have taken the Lewis Carroll approach in his thinking.

    There is something quite remarkable about this ‘State sanctioned and enabled’ assassination. Justin Webb does not have the brain power to ask about it and appears more interested in setting up Jeremy Corbyn to be maligned while simultaneously making him out to be a bit of victim in the aftermath of the poisoning.

    Here is a complete mystery.

    Let us assume that the Skripal poisoning is a Russian State sanctioned assassination, with or without President Putin’s knowledge. (It is a highly likely scenario.) The police investigation – tasked with keeping the public safe – has made no effort to catch the assassin.

    We are one month on from the Sunday of the attack. Thirty-one days later there has been no mention of the attacker, no apparent attempt on the part of the authorities to catch him or her, at all. And, more importantly as far as this web-site is concerned, absolutely no questions about that – that I have heard – from the highly resourced, highly paid news organisation, known as the BBC.

    I wonder why?

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  47. thirdoption says:

    Metropolitan Police chief Cressida Dick has pledged to use “Al Capone” tactics in a bid to curb the number of murders and knife attacks in the capital.

    https://news.sky.com/story/six-people-stabbed-across-four-boroughs-on-another-night-of-violence-in-london-11318393

    You might be an politically-correct lesbian, completely useless at your job, but fiddling your taxes won’t solve a thing.

       26 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Third

      Al beeb has flipped – it has suddenly found out that stabbing in East Londonistan is a local hobby and is solumnly reporting every one . There were 6 within 3 miles of my home yesterday . I’m afraid to say this is normality but msm will forget about it soon enough or when the kids go back to school in a week .

      School gives the little cherubs the opportunity to exchange half term war stories and display their latest weapons .they can worry about lessons when they go to prison .

         13 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Ooooh, I dunno – Kevin Costner could pat me down anytime !!!!

         3 likes

  48. Up2snuff says:

    As I write, Justin Webb (TOADY R4) is asking “Has the Skripal attack brought us closer to our EU allies?”

    Now that is interesting.

    Betrays some BBC thinking, perhaps? What about the Prime Minister’s thinking? British Government thinking? UK Civil Service thinking?

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Up
      As Humphrey in yes minister said – we haven’t got nuclear submarines to deter the Russians – we’ve got them to deter the French . Bottom up! Got to be effing joking.,

      The French will never forgive Blighty for D Day . They were getting used to being controlled by the Reich – just like now

         16 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, you et I are zomessing of ze aussauorities on ze upping, why not were we invaited to ze TOADY studio to comment on our magnifique President Napolean Macron?

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