566 Responses to Weekend Open Thread

  1. Beeb Brother says:

    RE: World Service ruined.

    Where do sane, well-adjusted people go now every where has turned into a safe space? I do not want to hear about how traumatic it is to receive mean Tweets or how you have committed a crime if you hate something. I don’t care if some people hate me – it is inevitable. Who thinks you should call the Police if someone dislikes you? The BBC think it is a fantastic idea.

    God get me to a place with free speech, humour and zero discussion of race, gender or ‘diversity.’

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  2. Beeb Brother says:

    RE: World Service ruined.

    Where do sane, well-adjusted people go now every where has turned into a safe space? I do not want to hear about how traumatic it is to receive mean Tweets or how you have committed a crime if you hate something. I don’t care if some people hate me – it is inevitable. Who thinks you should call the Police if someone dislikes you? The BBC think it is a fantastic idea.

    God get me to a place with free speech, humour and zero discussion of race, gender or ‘diversity.’

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  3. dafydd says:

    Wonderful Labour at its rancid best…….

    Who care’s about anti-semitism, its not affecting our poll ratings

    https://order-order.com/2018/04/09/labour-hq-told-anti-semitism-not-hurting-london/

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  4. vlad says:

    As mentioned above, Orban’s victory is well buried on the beeb webshite and ‘News’. (If he’d lost it would have been top of page.)

    Also, the headlines and ‘articles’ still downplay the scale of his victory.

    One title reads ‘Prime Minister Viktor Orban has CLAIMED a landslide victory’. No beeb, he has WON a landslide victory, whether you like it or not.

    And look at the title of the beeb’s Budapest correspondent: “Orban keeps the provinces but loses the youth vote.”
    Subliminal message: his supporters are horrible oldies and hideously provincial.

    With the beeb the devil’s always in the detail.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43693663

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    • Up2snuff says:

      vlad, well spotted: “Orban keeps the provinces but loses the youth vote.”

      No doubt an attempt to link to Brexit.

      If only old people did not vote the wrong way.

      Or, even vote.

      If only they did not clog up the NHS (increased life expectancy due to better health, notwithstanding).

      If only they had not worked so much and contributed to their own and to the State Pension which keeps going up.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        It doesn’t seem to say where the youth vote went. Greens? Or the Really Far Right? Is it too much to expect the BBC to at least substantiate these claims with some stats?

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      • Oaknash says:

        On R4 news today at midday, apparently Orban has “divided” the country because two thirds of the population voted for him and one third voted for the opposition.
        Maybe Orban should now step down to prevent the country being “divided” any more.
        Surely this has to be one of the most creative explanations for a landslide victory that the BBC has ever done.
        As we all here know this disgusting excuse for a broadcaster is now nothing more than a globalist propaganda outfit. What is interesting though is that it appears to have given up all attempts of subtle propaganda to now being about as subtle as a turd in a swimming pool.
        Great to know they are still pimping themselves out as experts on “fake” news. With all their experience of writing it they must definitely now be a world wide expert in recognising it as well.
        Thank God I no longer have to pay for this utterly appalling shite!

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Oak – split the country . Wow al Beeb admits the election was not fixed then . I thought they’d go for that. I don’t know which. Country goes to polls next but please vote sanity and borders.

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  5. MarkyMark says:

    Gender Pay Gap … sorted.
    Tax on Plastic … sorted.
    Tax on Sugar … sorted.
    Tax on Elderly … sorted.
    Terrorist Threat Level … errrrr.
    Mass immigration … errrr.

    “The current threat level for international terrorism in the UK is SEVERE.”

    “After thirteen years of uncontrolled mass immigration, this government would reduce and control immigration.”

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  6. Foscari says:

    One story you wont see on BBC is the hundreds of Russian
    soldiers going to fight in Syria for Assad. There is an interesting
    disclosure in Haaretz the left wing Israeli newspaper. This paper
    is often very critical of the Israeli government. So this disclosure
    of this clandestine operation by Russia is interesting.
    i know of course there are Brits and Yanks out there as well
    fighting against Assad . But according to Haaretz the Russian
    involvement is even much bigger than what has been thought
    by many.

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    • pugnazious says:

      ‘In 2015, the ICO ruled that the Lib Dems’ efforts to generate a marketing database through website sign-ups to various issues was indeed a breach of the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations (PECR).’

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  7. Up2snuff says:

    Before blaming Assad & the Russians for the attack on Douma (Duma), I wonder if the BBC N&CA team actually looked at a map?

    I have just heard someone claim on TWatO (BBC R4 1-1.45pm) that Douma is 40mins drive from central Damascus where, no doubt President Assad and his senior Russian pals hang out. Only if you travel very, very slowly: Douma appears to be about 6 to 7km from downtown Damascus. It is, effectively, within the city limits. It is closer to central Damascus than the airport.

    The BBC claim Assad was responsible for this latest chemical weapons attack. I wonder if someone would order the use of chemical weapons that close to their own location? A sudden change in wind direction and you, together with people on your side, are breathing the gas intended for your enemies.

    Not a smart thing to do.

    Either way.

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    • gb123 says:

      The LibLabs and media minions have a plan. The results of the plans could end like this.

      Some of the comments from the “elites” in this video sound very familiar and defy reality. (look for the Swede with the handlebar moustache. I now know the effects of 60’s drugs like LSD.

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  8. StewGreen says:

    The ITN Editorial director, is Martha Kearny’s husband.
    See #libEstablishment media are all the same folks.
    As we know ITV and Sky are not really an alternative to the BBC, they are arms on the same monster.
    MK is in the £200-250K pay band

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      It is not just the media. It is what Rod Liddle calls six degrees of Shami Chakrabarti: any think tank, media job, many charity gigs and cushy political positions come from the same tiny clique of ultra liberal lunatics.

      Many who work in the media always have a BBC gig in mind so adapt their work accordingly. The BBC has a gravitational pull, the intellectual equivalent of a black hole sucking all the fun and sanity out of the media universe.

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  9. JimS says:

    Home Secretary Amber Rudd has vowed to do “whatever it takes” to make Britain’s streets safe when she unveiled plans to combat violent crime on Monday.

    £10 assisted passage to Somalia?

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Green on Green ?
    Luton imam shot at 3 times, once hit
    Yet story not selected for BBCbangingOn ?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-43701221?__twitter_impression=true

    Story doesn’t name the 5 bailed.

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  11. fakenewswatcher says:

    ORBAN. WON. BUBBLY. CRACK OPEN . ORBAN. WON. BUBBLY. CRACK OPEN. SUCKITUPBBC.
    WANTA WINNER?
    ORBAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    SUCKITUPBBC.

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  12. Richard Pinder says:

    Previously I said “There are also reports of a chemical weapons attack targeting a hospital in Douma, Syria. What next?”

    Well, there are also reports that there has been an almighty cock-up, with Syrian Air Force Intelligence units having arrested several SAS officers who were hiding in one of the underground military facilities in Jobar, near Damascus, and who were coordinating rebel resistance against the Syrian army in the towns of Jobar and Zamalka. The reports claim two military liaison officers were also detained. One of them, an American, the other an Israeli.

    There are also reports of MI6 officers running about all over the place. London, Washington, Porton Down, Salisbury District Hospital and Oman.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      It looks like its about to get more serious. The Jobar-Zamalka pocket has fallen and the Douma pocket is about to fall. That could mean many more SAS, CIA and MI6 officers could be taken. That’s the real reason for any attack on Syria. RAF Akrotiri could be very active at the moment but it looks like a rescue mission is off and a bombing mission is on.

      That’s why the BBC/Liberal types would want a “False Flag” chemical weapons attack targeting children at a hospital in Douma.

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  13. Fedup2 says:

    Fake
    Certainly goes against the multicultural narrative eh?

    They are sensible to want to retain their national identity instead
    of having. Vibrantly diverse foreigners foisted on them without consultation or democratic approval since 1950s.

    Crime. Update. – death by cop shooting in. East. London .

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  14. Beeb Brother says:

    A really disturbing trend is how quickly and deeply terrorism stories are being memory-holed. One successful terror attack by Germany and another horrific plot foiled, yet their homepage has nothing. They do find space for stories on royal wedding donations and an irresistible SJW story about Apu from the Simpsons.

    After Darren Osborne said the BBC drama ‘Three Girls’ helped inspire his attack, BBC managers clearly had a meeting. Though they love to imagine themselves as courageous heroes fighting for truth and justice, the meeting probably went something like this:

    “Report the truth, what on Earth were we thinking? How dare anyone not totally surrender? We shall surrender on the beaches! We shall surrender in the media, Police, politics and judiciary! We shall never fight back!”

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  15. Pounce says:

    How we can longer trust the bBC for the news it provides:
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    Another sob story from the bBC about how black people get it rough after breaking into a house and then having a shoot out with the cops. And here poor Lakeith got 65 years in jail.

    Here is what the bBC doesn’t tell you:
    Ala. teen turns down 25-year plea deal, gets sentenced to 65 years instead – and laughs
    AN Alabama teen laughed Thursday, as a judge sentenced him to 65 years in prison for murder and theft after he rejected a plea deal that would have given him 25 years behind bars.

    Lakeith Smith, 18, of Montgomery, Alabama, was sentenced to 65 years by Judge Sibley Reynolds for “felony murder, armed burglary, second-degree theft and third-degree theft,” Smith smiled and laughed while being sentenced at the Elmore County courthouse. He had turned down a plea deal that would have recommended he spend 25 years in prison on the charges. “I don’t think Mr. Smith will be smiling long when he gets to prison,” C.J. Robinson, chief assistant district attorney, said. “We are very pleased with this sentence. Because the sentences are consecutive, it will be a long time before he comes up for even the possibility for parole, at least 20 to 25 years.” Judge Reynolds said Smith seemed to show no remorse for his crimes during the trial and did not apologise. He also overhead the teen say, “I don’t have time for this.”

    Oh and about that police shooting which the bBC describes like this:
    “The group turned and fled out the back door, and a shootout ensued. When it was all over, 16-year-old A’Donte Washington was dead with a bullet wound to his neck. It’s never been in dispute that a Millbrook police officer shot and killed Washington – officer-worn body cameras captured the fatal confrontation. A grand jury declined to charge the officer, finding that the shooting was justified.”

    Here’s what the bBC doesn’t tell you:
    “On Feb. 23, 2015, Smith, along with four other people, broke into two homes in Millbrook. Police responded to calls of the robberies, and the suspects fired at the officer who entered the home they were raiding. The suspects fled the home but continued to fire at the officer. One of the suspects, A’Donte Washington, 16, of Montgomery, who was armed with a revolver, allegedly pointed a gun at the officer, body cam footage showed. The officer fired at the teenager, killing him. Smith was charged with Washington’s death despite not firing the shots due to the accomplice law. A grand jury cleared the officer who fired the shots at Washington.”

    So the policeman was cleared of homicide after camera footage showed the dead youth pointing a pistol at him and how does the bBC end its article:
    “”I went there to show him and his family some support. What the officers did – it was totally wrong,” says Washington. “I don’t feel [Smith] deserves that. No. Not at all.”

    The bBC , the biggest promoter of fake news.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      You know when you read something on the BBC parts will be accurate but crucial elements will have been twister, spun or omitted which is their favourite trustworthy trick. I think facts and details over narrative count as hate speech these days though they are everything.

      Not terror related means definitely terrorism.

      ‘Critics say’ means ‘this is what we want you to think.’

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The al beeb fixation with a foreign country thousands of miles away – America .

      If they can find a black victim in Blighty they look to America . The black lives matter s campaign there has some validity .

      Al beeb cannot grasp that America and Blighty are different . Gun culture in different . Law enforcement is different .

      So they use an irrelevant story like this – for what purpose ? Al beeb is the British state broadcaster not the American one

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  16. Guest Who says:

    OT and a few days late, but i was just purging my spam filter and came across this ‘Snowmail’, where Jon Snow of Ch4 often excels at enhancing any narrative the BBC has already run through the filter:

    “Several killed after car crashes into crowd in Muenster”

    Totally captures the incident.

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    I haven’t read the Amber Rudd guide to stopping black people killing each other yet – but I will. She shows how devalued the Home Office has become . Just a lightweight to act as a buffer for the PM.

    Notice how much political involvement there is with London policing now – the mayor – a policing deputy – local safety committees – the Home Secretary – a police minister – the Greater London asssemby – community consultation groups – and they all achieve what? Cutting the number of street cops and increasing the number of traffic wardens and ‘street patrols ‘

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    • Beltane says:

      All true Fedup, but don’t forget she was jolly good at hockey and lacrosse.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Update
        I’ve had a decco at the government strategy – 130 plus pages. It looks like it was re writen last week because of the shit storm of killing going on in Londonistan.

        How such a report can avoid police numbers ( street ) as well as ‘stop and search ‘ is beyond me. Confession – I’ve studied criminology so am familiar with. Home office research reports which used to be authoritative and objective. This stuff is shallow and aimed at diverting people from reality .

        You call a group of black kids a gang and they become one. It happened where I live. Christ they even had. ‘ colours ‘ – lime green. – a. Bit girlie – but these kids are so disorganised that they couldn’t keep their gang going once the summer holidays ended .
        Kids do it because it’s expected – get a hard ‘rep’ and be feared. . It’s not what the home office thinks . The solution is hard policing . Ain’t gonna happen. .

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    • G.W.F. says:

      They will need cash for community centres with facilities for ping pong to occupy the yoofs

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  18. StewGreen says:

    Report sets out options for Scottish government-owned energy firm
    comments are open …. SNP supporters are well in their
    but some against them a few posts down.

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  19. Fedup2 says:

    If you are an armchair world leader like Fedup2 you do wonder if the alleged chemical attack in Syria yesterday was intended as a test for the new US Secretary of State – John Bolton – who has always been good value as a true hawk .

    I just hope we stay out of it because there won’t be any benefit for us to get involved . Those that spout morality can pick up the tab themselves .

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  20. MarkyMark says:

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Top tip if you’re ever cornered by the police.
    say “Don’t make me do it copper, get back in your car
    and drive away
    …. otherwise I’ll call you RACIST”
    ..the terrified little b@ggers will quickly comply,
    cos there is nothing they are more frightened of.

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  22. Loobyloo says:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43702404
    Trump Tower fire victim Todd Brassner ‘hated’ living there

    This article is so pathetic, and sums up the lunacy at the bBBC.
    No further comment needed, other than disband the whole stinking corrupt organisation.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Looby, the BBC really do need some Sub-editors who can Sub and some Editors who can Edit. Every newspaper and broadcaster makes errors from time to time but now it is reaching epidemic proportions at the BBC.

      BBC News & Current Affairs has become a complete joke. They were warned years ago when they were starting to getting minor things wrong. They could have taken steps then to sharpen up.

      Now they are including material errors in much of their coverage and, often in addition, major omissions from what is left after that. I am not including the ‘sensitive’ information side of things in that, it is the common or garden news coverage – as highlighted by you – that I am refering to. Another example would be this “Oxford University devastated student helped by ‘lovely people’ “. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43701800

      How cruel of Oxford University to steal Anne-Marie’s notes!

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  23. StewGreen says:

    Orban has won 133 out of the 199 seats in the Hungarian parliament
    The Socialist party has 20
    The Ultra Nationalists projected to win 26.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Brilliant – let’s wait to see what crap soros spits out . Hope Orban moves quickly to deal with soros . Goes around comes around .

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  24. Loobyloo says:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/education-43698074
    Schools ‘to drop gathering nationality data’

    More hoodwinking of the British taxpayers. Going the way of the US, where you will be paying for the healthcare and education of anyone in the country no questions asked.

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Secondary schools “to drop any pretence of teaching anything”.
      Oh wait-old news-they in fact gave up teaching once Al Gore sent his “Inconvenient Truth ” DVD , and it was compulsory to watch it.
      Bloody North Koreans eh? Copycats.

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  25. theisland says:

    Can you imagine this policeman doing a stop and search?
    https://twitter.com/TRobinsonOnline/status/983302453243367424

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    • Oaknash says:

      Ah – there he is – The MK2 PC Common Purpose Robo Droid. I think the little chap with the funny beardy cat like thing on his face must be the Mk 1.

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  26. Loobyloo says:

    I think Al Beeb are having a tantrum cos of the Orban victory.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-43699083
    Rod Liddle Wales article sparks complaints to IPSO

    Be afraid if you have differing opinions!

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      “Discrimination against the Welsh language”.
      That is only one of the barking oxymoronic statements in this crazy hazy piece of lunacy from the BBC.
      But who`s taking this use of language apart? Where`s Orwell when you need him?
      Let`s face it-the Lefty Media and their Pliant Goons dotted around these Isles are truly barking. All sense of reality gone.
      The humour slunk off way back-you need to be educated, humble and discerning to get a joke-the Left have long shown they`re mad and thick as mince.
      Keep poking Rod.

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      • taffman says:

        Loobyloo & Fedup2
        The Welsh Nats. are having a ‘hissy fit’ using a PC attack on Liddle.
        Most Taffs would adopt the ‘sticks and stones’ stance and banter back about the bridge opening up Wales to England’s multi-culti world of “black lives matter” in present-day London.
        BTW , what happened to “black lives matter”?
        😀

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Taff? Is it all true – late April fool jobby right?

      Maybe it would be good if wales went independent as an experiment . National pride is great but can be a bit expensive . I’ve sometimes wondered how England would get on if London became a city state. But a waste of thinking time .

      Rod is a jester isn’t he?

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      • taffman says:

        Fedup2
        Yes, Wales wants independence, independence from the EU.
        😉

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Ha yes indeed taff . I wonder if Hungary will get hacked off with the ReichEU when they cut funds as a punishment for non compliance with compulsory invasion by Islam ordered by Brussels .

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          • taffman says:

            We would have got out of the EU 18 months ago if we had a ‘Prime’ Minister.

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        • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

          I have seen several posts on social media, demanding the renaming be stopped.
          When I ask them which Prince of Wales has been chosen, I dont seem to get an answer. Simply because they assume its our Charlie, but of course you can choose the more historic welsh ones too.

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    • Guest Who says:

      “News UK, which publishes the Sunday Times, has been asked for comment”

      By whom, about what?

      The BBC is as much a laughing stock as these idiot pols.

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  27. Loobyloo says:

    https://news.sky.com/video/sheep-cooked-alive-on-live-export-ships-11324371
    Not Al Beeb, I wonder why.
    Warning, graphic images of animals in distress, being shipped from Aus to….the Middle East. Sheep, not pigs.

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  28. pugnazious says:

    The evidence mounts up. To a whole heap of nothing.

    The Guardian and its whistle-blowing useful idiot, Christopher Wylie, claim the Brexit referendum was stolen by a company that used illicitly gained personal data from Facebook. Wylie mentions that one million British Facebook accounts were accessed and that he has given all the evidence to Parliament and the Electoral Commission.
    Thought I’d mosey on down and have a gander at that evidence. Here’s what the Parliamentary committee said….note that the docs published were the ones highlighted by Wylie…thus the ones he thought most relevant and important…and which in fact show nothing….

    ‘In his appearance before the House of Commons Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee on 27 March, Cambridge Analytica whistle-blower Christopher Wylie highlighted a number of documents that he had sent the Committee.

    This written evidence refers to the work of SCL elections, Cambridge Analytica, Global Science Research, Aggregate IQ, their connections, and their use of data and microtargeting voters during elections. The documents also contains case studies and insights into the worldwide work done for clients by SCL elections.

    Today the Committee is publishing a number of these documents.

    Background papers submitted by Christopher Wylie’

    Looked hard, very hard and in 122 pages absolutely no mention of Brexit or Trump’s 2016 campaign. All the information relates to the 2014 mid-terms in the US, contracts to work in Trinidad and Tobago, other stuff taken from SCL’s website [which is hardly secretive about its work and that it works for governments and military…though the Guardian was very excited about that very ‘sinister’ discovery.] Hard to see any difference between what SCL does and what the BBC’s own Media Action does in effect…both seek to alter the politics and social underpinnings of various states…hence the BBC’s Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is in jail in Iran for training Iranian journalists who in the opinion of the iranian state would act to undermine its authority and establishment.

    What’s also there is a contract between GSR and SCL…GSR is a company run by Aleksandr Kogan, the academic who ran the Facebook data harvesting exercise but claims he is merely a humble academic made into a scapegoat…the papers show that is far from the truth.

    So no evidence that any data was used to influence Brexit despite Wylie claiming it’s all there.

    Wylie then says the whole crux of the matter is in fact the money given to BeLeave by VoteLeave which he claims was part of a coordinated campaign by different Leave groups which he says is illegal [despite the Electoral Commission giving its blessing to the transfer of money]….so nothing to do with Facebook data then?

    And as The Observer/Guardian has admitted there is no secret or unethical link between AIQ and the EU referendum what do they have left?

    ‘In two news articles last week (“Revealed: the ties that bound Canadian data firm to Leave campaign in referendum” and “Brexit insider claims Vote Leave team ‘may have broken law’”), we are happy to clarify that we did not intend to suggest that AggregateIQ is a direct part and/or the Canadian branch of Cambridge Analytica, or that it has been involved in the exploitation of Facebook data, or otherwise been involved in any of the alleged wrongdoing made against Cambridge Analytica. Further, we did not intend to suggest that AIQ secretly and unethically co-ordinated with Cambridge Analytica on the EU referendum. We are happy to make clear that AggregateIQ is and has always been 100% Canadian owned and operated.’

    So far can see no evidence that the facebook data was actually used during the referendum and of course no evidence that even if it had been that it had any influence whatsoever.

    Good of the BBC, Marr, to give Wylie a platform to make his dramatic accusations and a demand for another referendum without having any evidence whatsoever to back that up…and as all the investigations are still on-going Marr could not gainsay anything Wylie said….so why have him on when all he is doing is making lurid, sensationalist accusations?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug

      His crying wolf could do the Brexit cause a favour by wasting energy and hope on a lost cause as the days tick down . And it keeps the guardian snowflakes occupied .

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  29. StewGreen says:

    Panorama dropped again,
    ..was supposed to be “Mark Daly looks into whether the Criminal Cases Review Commission is fit for purpose”

    They dropped their Facebook/C-Analytica story the other week
    Guardian editor Carole Cadwalladr laid into them
    ..she then printed corrections in the Observer hidden away on page 50, two weeks running

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  30. scribblingscribe says:

    The Guardian, the BBC’s favourite newspaper, well its only newspaper, is very excited about Ofcom challenging statements made by Lord Lawson on Climate on radio 4.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/09/bbc-radio-4-broke-impartiality-rules-in-nigel-lawson-climate-change-interview

    Do you know how many people made complaints about the interview? Remember that there are thousands of fanatical environmentalists in the UK.

    2.
    Yes, Just 2.
    Nope. I mean literally 2. There were two complaints.
    2. Got that?

    Hasn’t the Ofcom got better things to do? Such as the BBC’s reporting on Telford? The death of Arkadiusz Jozwik where the BBC lied through its teeth, blaming Brexit for a ‘racist murder’. The BBC’s reporting of the fishing communities demise due to the EU?

    Surely there are more than 2 complaints about those cases.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Works out at about 3 months per complainant. I wonder what that racked up in hourlies and exes?

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    • StewGreen says:

      BBC/Ofcom/Guardian/Momentum it’s the same school bully gang
      if they don’t like you they wait for you .. and grab your parka hood so they can gob all over your face.

      They are utterly contemptuous to people like us that stand up to their gang.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      2 complaints? That’s a lot! The political prisoner who taught his dog how to give a Nazi salute and the political prisoner who put a golliwog doll in his window only got 1 complaint each. But for liberals, whose entire world view is based on lies and falsehood, no opposition or dissent whatsoever can be tolerated.

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  31. Fedup2 says:

    I think I found a bit of twisted pro Tory bias . It’s the amber Rudd thing about police numbers not being linked to street crime. Al Beeb has given her an easy time.

    I can only think that they see her as one of their own. And the shadow home sec hasn’t said anything either. Maybe Diane is slow reader.

    I remember when the Conservative Party was for law and order. Such a long time ago..

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      Think we can all sense this is coming to the boil.
      Note in my local paper that Henry Vincent-the sleazeball who was stabbed by the 78 year old pensioner-has now got a shrine 20 yards away from the poor couples home.
      As the hoodied scum drop by with balloons, climb local walls to put their mock up cards and tributes, they say nothing.
      But the police won`t let the couple go back and are now in police protection.
      Look at those cards-sheer unintended comedy (apparently he changed the lives of everybody he “came across”!). Would be hilarious if the old blokes wife didn`t have Alzheimers wouldn`t it?
      Really is about time we took our streets back from scum like this-and their playmaking puppeteers at the BBC for that matter.
      Disgusting, really is. The Lefts cynicism in all this is truly evil. Either the Vincents and Duggans roll us all over, or we get something that is not like Rudd or May by way of “law enforcement FFS”

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      • Guest Who says:

        There would be a certain poetic Mash-up if a passing Labour Lord on his Mobly happened to pulll a Frankenstein from Death Race 2000 along the pavement as this collection of rejects were doing their flower arranging.

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    • Demon says:

      Jeremy told her not to speak to any nice reporter if a question involving numbers came up. She couldn’t anyway because she held her abacus upside down and a couple of beads dropped off. Maybe she ate them thinking they were large smarties?

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    • Deborah says:

      BBC London news last night kept asking rhetorically whether it was the goverment’s cuts to Police numbers that was causing the increasing numbers of violent attacks in the city. Perhaps if they didn’t have to spend so much time investigating domestic issues, dancing at carnivals or investigating perceived hate crimes on trannies they might have time for knife crime. Maybe even if they had been allowed to stop and search black men dealing in drugs without SJW’s screaming ‘racist’. And perhaps if police were not having to seek those bloody lone wolves with mental health issues. But less than a month before local election those stabbings are due to Toree Cuts.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      I think al beeb want to link the increase to their real target, Social media.
      They are desperate to keep the focus on the only means today, by which people can bypass their propaganda and arrive at the truth.
      Therefore, for them, not so much police numbers, more so social media.

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  32. Holly Selassie says:

    And here`s another one.
    July 3rd 2015, kid wrongly accused of rape hangs himself in a Southampton park. Name of Jay Cheshire.
    Mum has to turn off his life support machine.
    Year to the day in 2016, she too hangs herself in her house. 55 year old mum called Karin Cheshire.
    And last week, Alison Saunders-the creature overseeing this farrago of malice and bloke- baiting-is able to leave her job and carry on with her life, fat salary and academe awaiting her championing of women.
    As for mums of those she`s falsely accusing-well, not really women in her terms are they?
    Probably the worst story I`ve seen for ages. Not that the BBC will dwell on this kind of thing.
    But tells you plenty of where we are these days. It`ll have to be fought.
    Poor mum, poor lad and poor family left behind, How did we let it slide to this?

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  33. Guest Who says:

    🙂

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  34. BRISSLES says:

    And by all accounts he came from a family of Travellers. This is one ‘community’ that local authorities bend over backwards for – inasmuch that local councils have to provide so many permanent pitches for them to settle. Recently my area was plagued with them ‘settling’ – knowing the time limit before they can be forcibly removed – and as expected the amount of sh..t deposited was unbelievable. They’re just animals, the lot of them.

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    • StewGreen says:

      yes I thought that,
      when someone wrote the old guy/wife are under police protection.
      Travellers are above the law, you cross them and they’ll escalate by coming to burn down your house and kill your dog/cat
      They don’t see that such thuggery leads to more of them dying early.

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      • Holly Selassie says:

        I recall Travellers blocking up the Manchester Royal Infirmary car park, when one of their number was getting treated for something. No fees for them, negotiated away.
        They also took over Cambridge North Park and Ride before Christmas, so the commuters to London and the city centre couldn`t use it.
        And now today, I find they did the same to P&R in Taunton by the M5 yesterday, ongoing today no doubt. How come none of this makes any dent in the news-anybody see a pattern?
        After Dale farm and Vanessa Redgrave in 2011, they decided to join the Duggans in taking this useless country down. And we`re letting them.

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  35. Beltane says:

    Thanks to chemical intervention the world’s premier news service has been spared giving any in-depth coverage to two rather significant events. Firstly, the Skripal Story conveniently pushed the outcome of the Italian elections way past the back burner. Over a month ago now, who even mentions them or thinks to ask what developments there might have been?
    And now, thanks to another dastardly, if unconfirmed, use of chemicals in downtown Damascus, Viktor Orban’s rather significant landslide victory in Hungary can be totally ignored on News at 10.
    Result. Or not, as the case may be. Both results herald immense potential damage to the EU monolith, but obviously if they ignore the fact, it might go away.

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  36. StewGreen says:

    7:30 FakeBritain BBC1 ; The fake energy assessors go to houses,
    and instead of doing a real assessment, their job is recommend expensive building work
    ..and claim it’s needed for energy efficiency.
    They’re now with police rading perps houses
    Hang on ..first purps face is blurred, but only ethnic MUslims use that kind of beard.

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  37. taffman says:

    “Good Friday Agreement played up, suggests Labour’s Barry Gardiner”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43706473
    Lets have our own HYS .
    Al Beeb don’t have one so far?

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  38. pugnazious says:

    The BBC has been lying through its teeth all day as it says the main cause of a rise in violent crime is a lack of police officers despite 2009 being just as violent when there were 20,000 more officers and the BBC at the time refused to accept the police figures showing a rise in crime, preferring instead to use the British Crime Survey figures which showed a fall…now, today, the BBC want to use the previously totally unreliable[according to the BBC] police figures and dismiss the previously impeccable [according to the BBC] stats of the BCS.

    Here’s the BBC making its case…
    ‘The home secretary has announced a crackdown on drugs networks in England and Wales, citing a “strong link” between drugs and rising violent crime.

    Amber Rudd said the illegal drugs market was changing and appeared to be the “biggest driver” of the increase.

    She contradicted a leaked Home Office document, seen by the BBC, which blamed the rise on falling police numbers.’

    That ‘Home Office document’? Actually only a slide, and we do not get to see any of the other slides…

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    A slide which says that police numbers may, that’s may, contribute to a rise in crime, and if it does it is not by anymeans the main driver….so in what way does Rudd contradict this so-called ‘document’?

    The BBC tells us…‘The leaked document said a lack of resources and fewer people being charged may have “encouraged” offenders to commit crimes.’

    What it fails to mention is that the slide said this…‘] [Police numbers] “unlikely to be the factor that triggered the shift in serious violence, but may be an underlying driver that has allowed the rise to continue”…..The document also says that it was unlikely that “lack of deterrence” was the catalyst for the rise in serious violence. “Forces with the biggest falls in police numbers are not seeing the biggest rises in serious violence.”’

    It is putting up several scenarios and is suggesting in one that lack of resources may contribute in some way to a rise in crime.

    The BBC then makes its charge…that Rudd, in her official report on violent crime, avoids mentioning police numbers at all…when the ‘document’, er, slide, says it is a huge factor…according to the BBC…

    ‘There is a huge gap.
    There is no mention of police resources or the cuts that have left forces across England and Wales with 21,000 fewer officers and 7,000 fewer police community support officers than in 2010.’

    Hang on…that ‘document’, er, slide, concludes…..‘“The implications are challenging. There is good evidence that increasing resources dedicated to targeting hot-spots and prolific offenders can be effective, but there are several competing demands for any additional resource.”’

    So targeting hotspots is part of the answer….one which Rudd’s report has a whole section on…

    ‘Sharing best practice of ‘what works’:
    hotspot policing
    The College of Policing has a key role in
    ensuring good practice is identified and
    shared. This makes good economic sense
    as well as directly helping the communities
    affected by violent crime and society more
    broadly. We know that violent crime tends
    to be concentrated in small areas, usually
    urban, and by focusing resources and
    activities on these ‘hotspots’, evidence
    shows that crime is reduced not only in
    these specific areas but potentially also in
    the wider geographic area. ‘

    In other words Rudd’s report does reflect what is in that ‘document’, er, slide.

    Time after time we have heard former gangsters, victims, parents, experts, community leaders, police officers come on the BBC and say police numbers are not the problem, the answer is to get to the root of the problem, what causes the violent crime in the first place.
    Rudd’s report deals with that in extensive and intensive detail putting forward many suggestions as to the problems and the supposed answers in a 111 page report.

    Why is it then that the BBC has spent the day emphasising a minor point made in a slide that does not in anyway merit the emphasis the BBC puts upon it? Why does the BBC not concentrate on what Rudd’s report does say which in fact reflects far more the concerns of the people in the communities effected than the BBC’s take on things?

    With local elections coming up in May and the Tories expected to do badly in London any chance the BBC is helping Corbyn out by putting all the blame on police numbers just as they did during the 2017 general election?

    One should note that ‘violent crime’ is not all about stabbings and murder…the ONS says …..it can be non-physical or just pushing and shoving….

    ‘Violent crime covers a wide range of offences including minor assaults (such as pushing and shoving), harassment and abuse (that result in no physical harm) through to wounding and homicide. Sexual offences include rape, sexual assault and unlawful sexual activity against adults and children, sexual grooming and indecent exposure. ‘

    Note also that the ONS suggests the drivers of a rise in violent crime are better reporting and recording and a rise in domestic violence reports…

    Drivers of the increase in police recorded violent crime

    The 65% increase in police recorded violent crime between the years ending March 2013 and March 2016 has been largely driven by the police response to findings of 2 recent HM Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) inspections.

    Firstly, the Crime-recording: making the victim count report published by HMIC found that violence against the person offences had the highest under-recording rates across police forces in England and Wales. Action taken by police forces to improve their compliance with the National Crime Recording Standard (NCRS) given the renewed focus on the accuracy of crime recording has resulted in an increase in the number of offences recorded.
    Secondly, it is likely that there has been an increase in the reporting of domestic abuse and subsequent recording of these offences by the police, as a result of an improved response by police to domestic abuse following a HMIC inspection in 2013 on the handling of domestic abuse incidents.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Puggers..
      Excellent analysis and discussion. You have however made the common mistake of thinking the BBC have either the intelligence to read and understand or the desire to tell the truth…

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      • Up2snuff says:

        JA, I did note and liked that Martha Kearney (inadvertently?) let slip that the BBC had not seen the whole document, but just had seen a couple of ‘slides’.

        In later news & interviews on BBC R4, the BBC did not repeat that honesty and, instead, were happy to give the impression that they DID have a copy of the whole document.

        Dishonest, BBC.

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  39. Moodswing6 says:

    Credit must be given to the BBC cnuts for the killings that are now a daily event. It’s their constant brain bashing and civil liberties utopia propoganda that prevents the police we already have from doing anything. Should any attempts be made to interfere in the affairs of black youth the BBC would be the first to headline POLICE RACISIM. Marches and riots would follow.
    Throwing more money at the problem, putting more police on the streets. Yeah, like it’s going to make a difference. Zero discipline at home, zero discipline at school and zero truth from the worlds most respected broadcaster.

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    • JimS says:

      Shouldn’t we be celebrating all this cultural expression?

      Back in the 1950s one had to go to Los Angeles, Columbia or Somalia to get this sort of experience, now ‘it is part of living in a big city’. Enough is never enough.

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  40. Guest Who says:

    Emily M has retweeted this:

    https://twitter.com/sohrabahmari/status/983417644677320704?

    Emily M clearly has a great grasp of irony.

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    • LynetteO says:

      BBC Radio 4 interviewed Dr Adelina Ilie claiming that Bath University has made a breakthrough in developing a new glucose – monitering skin adhesive patch. Once again, the BBC does not give credit to the Jewish State for their developments and in this field in particular where diabetic monitors are already being effectively used by many throughout the world. See http://www.Israelactive.com and search for Diabetic monitors.

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  41. Guest Who says:

    This is a good question.

    Luckily for the bbc, they do not have to answer any questions.

    Apparently.

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  42. Fedup2 says:

    Toady
    Humph with Blair on Northern Ireland

    “ the threat of brexit”

    That” threat “word -not “challenge “

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  43. Guest Who says:

    Lesley seems distressed.

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  44. Beeb Brother says:

    There is a water processing place opposite my house where they are working today. Disgusting, dirty, dangerous work but probably quite well paid.

    Not a single woman among the workers! Feminists should campaign for 50/50 female water processing workers, for that evil wage gap will never close unless women get their hands dirty. I imagine Stella Creasy will be Tweeting imminently about such a burning injustice – smash that patriarchy which does all the essential things we take for granted and would be helpless without. Who needs roads, buildings, running water and electricity?

    Nobody is going to pay you a lot if you are doing something warm, safe and easy which anyone can do. Go process some filthy water in the freezing rain and the market might bump up your earnings. They could not get away with paying this lot the same as till workers in Tescos as nobody would do the work for that price and the work has to be done.

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    • Guest Who says:

      At the very least Carrie Gracie should be donning her galoshes and Scotchguard mic guard.

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      • Beeb Brother says:

        Have all the feminists have a well-earned year off from sitting in warm offices and moaning and do some male-dominated jobs. Now that is a BBC show I would pay for.

        Week 1: Stella Creasey works on an oil rig.

        Week 2: Carrie Gracie builds a sky scraper in the freezing cold rain.

        Week 3: Cathy Newman gets a job managing an IT team in a school. When the network keeps crashing and everything goes down, she just shouts at the computers over and over: “So you are saying you will work now!”

        Week 4: Having plummeted to her death in a previous episode, the ghost of Carrie Gracie returns to say she was sorry for being such a snide bitch and she now appreciates the essential work men do which she would hate to do.

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  45. AsISeeIt says:

    If, like me, you are somewhat bemused…

    “We’ll keep you up to date with this story”

    So says the BBC News Channel reporter concerning the Russian spy story.

    But we know that’s not true. The BBC is doing no independent journalism or critical reporting on this issue.

    This morning the BBC simply passes on a press release concerning Yulia Skipal’s release from hospital – which happened yesterday.

    And, by the way, on Sunday (the day prior to Ms Skripal’s release) Jane Hill of the BBC (with some excitment) read out a previous official press release telling us that in contrast with what Russian sources were saying (that Yulia herself believed she would be released within the week) the medical authorities were denying this to be true. Our Jane Hill news anchor with the BBC went to some rather tedious lengths to highlight this apparent contradiction. BBC reports went further – they still questioned the authenticity of the telephone recording in which Yulia Skripal told her female relative she would soon be out of hospital.

    So, no BBC, we very much doubt that you will be keeping us up to date with the detail of this story. In fact you will do no independent investigative journalism on it. You will simply pass on official press releases. Your editorial efforts will go into supporting that official narrative and into pooh-poohing information which comes from other sources. You will abide by the official narrative only. We can’t trust you as a balanced independent broadcaster – because you are no such thing.

    BBC, you may not be a government lapdog on every issue (we know that) – but on an issue where your political instinct matches that of the authorities then you will pretend to be the bulldog but really you will wag your little tail, yap and nuzzle up.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, whether or not the BBC were being toadies in the Skripal Affair, they have just totally defective as a news broadcaster.

      I hope to get around to listing what the BBC have not covered on R4 on this but as an unpaid, unresourced journalist – unlike that W1A shower with their multi-billions of £s – I will have to make time for it along with other tasks. It may be a long list.

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  46. Up2snuff says:

    Am here fresh from Blair on TOADY (R4 8.12am onward) and thought he spoke very well.

    Until the end, when he said something stupid and followed it up by being completely dishonest. On that last point, if my memory is correct, Blair HAS SAID on air, on the BBC – think it was the TOADY Programme, again – that he DID want to form a ‘Centrist’ Party in and for the UK.

    The stupidity was revealing. Blair does have a globalist, one world Government agenda if he really believes that a country’s resources and economy should be run for the benefit of others outside that nation. Think I heard him right on that. The fact is that the UK has been governed slightly/partly/mostly like that, certainly since 1 January 1973, and it was probably a prime motivation for the majority of the UK to vote to leave the EU on 23 June 2016.

    Brainless Blair. Devious Blair.

    Keep going, Tony.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Blair sounds more and more like a demented old lady…I guess his wife won’t earn as much money helping refugees if we leave the EU.

      I have had a break from BBC and I think my policy will be 1 week on 3 weeks off from now on..

      And now the gender pay gap..do me a favour..Listen to Jordan Petersen and learn some statistics and you will see why this measure is flawed…

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      • G says:

        JA,
        “Blair sounds more and more like a demented old lady…” For me, rather religious. At least he enjoys sounding like a religious minister. (Not RoP) but leaving just room to improve with his, “I say to you….”. Shortly, no doubt, on the current trajectory to be, “I say unto you…..”. Whatever, a prize Prick.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          The advantage is that he is now widely disliked and distrusted. Toxic Tone has his uses. The more Blair nails his flag to the Remain mast must be a help to the good ship UK as it sails of into EU free waters. I note that The Humph didn’t ask him too much about that this a.m.!

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      And as per usual, Humpty asks his bland questions in the nice, even, quiet, measured tone….

      which he and his lieutenants Mish and Miss Shouty NEVER use when interrogating and interrupting ad nauseam Tory interviewees.

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  47. Up2snuff says:

    While we are talking about ‘stupid’, I feel Assad and his Russian allies are being just that in refusing an independent investigation into the Duma gas attack. In this age of easy filming/recording and making the material widely available, I would have thought that a recorded inspection would back up the claims it was a staged attack. Recording the inspection would put pressure on the inspectors to be scrupulous in their work.

    Unless it was truly ordered and carried out by the Syrian military. Which likelihood Assad has now re-inforced in the thinking of the West. Stupid.

    Even more so when set against the two UN inspections that Assad allowed years ago. Why not now?

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