560 Responses to Midweek Thread 24 November 2021

  1. taffman says:

    “France holds crisis talks after migrant boat deaths”

    And the blame game goes on , but where does the blame lay?
    The EU invited them in, remember Merkel?
    The EU send them west and France ships then over here while the Tory government sits on its hands? Which puts our nation in extreme danger .
    At the same time our government cuts down our armed forces and pays the French millions.
    Do those “millions pay the smugglers and their dinghy suppliers?
    Is it all done by design or mere incompetence?


    • G says:

      Sad and all that, but it was just waiting to happen. Problem is, the Communists have taken Western countries so far from adhering to the ‘Rule of Law’, this kind of thing is inevitable.

      If the EU/France prevented these chancers from getting into Europe;
      If France provided the accommodation for the chancers they let into France then – in accordance with the law – they could have filled in and submitted their applications to enter the UK from there;
      Then anyone entering the UK illegally, would be returned to France;

      Just think, Priti Useless/Billy, if you and the French followed the law as in place for this kind of situation, you could have received all the paperwork applications from France and resumed Government consensus in taking in vast numbers of muslims clandestinely but out of the public gaze. The odd 20K / 30K would be concealed within the other hundreds of thousands arriving in the UK during the course of a normal year. The Government would resume their Ethnic Cleansing of the indigenous white population.

      Or, in other words, numerically:

      “Take care of the pennies, the pounds will take care of themselves”

      You know it makes sense………….


    • MarkyMark says:

      Ask the Sudan Ambassdor?


  2. Zephir says:

    Another day another boycott?

    A man found innocent is a “difficult day” ????

    Maybe it is if you are a racist

    rioting, assault and looting is a “racial justice protest” ???

    Levi Strauss & Co. reached out to its U.S. employees offering individual counseling and promoting a forthcoming session with a “racial trauma specialist” to “help promote safety, sharing and to encourage healing” following the acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse, the company confirmed to FOX Business on Wednesday.

    Levi’s chief diversity, equity and inclusion officer, Elizabeth Morrison, sent an email following the verdict that began, “With the news that Kyle Rittenhouse was not convicted in the shooting of three individuals – two of whom lost their lives – during racial justice protests last year, this is a difficult day for many.”



    • Guest Who says:

      Liz clearly a bbc Moaning Emole addict.

      Of course it leads with the news that getting into a small raft to cross the Channel in winter can present unexpected risks.

      But then there is ‘analysis’ from a bitter Sopes…

      The America I give thanks for

      This will be my eighth and final Thanksgiving before I move back to the UK, and the thing that has struck me about living here is the courtesy, respect and old-fashioned politeness.

      When I tell Americans there are those in Britain who could learn from this, they seem startled. Surely, they ask, Britain – with its Royal Family – is the epitome of etiquette and courtliness.

      I ask if they’ve ever tried to get on the Victoria Line at Oxford Circus in the rush hour.

      But there will be a lot of families who won’t be gathering this year.

      A friend from Ohio – the kindest, most gentle soul – says his family won’t be getting together because of toxic divisions that have come to the fore in the past few years. He works in the media and is sick of having his family telling him he works for fake news.

      It has been a growing and depressing phenomenon in America, where the list of no-go topics for the dinner table is now so extensive, better to call the whole thing off.

      Read full analysis >

      Jon Sopel
      BBC North America editor

      Ohio man one of his CNN media sources?

      But blocking the bbc as the bbc blocks all who disagree with it sounds a plan.

      Next in the litany of ex beeboid whinge, Roger Harrabin on 28Gate.

      Might get three readers.


      • Deborah says:

        Has Mr Sopel not realised that very few people getting on the Victoria line at rush hour are not British? Indeed get on any Tube and listen to the polyglot of noise to realise why London isn’t British anymore.


      • Guest Who says:

        Sopes less interested in media cover of dodgy SUVs.


        • Zephir says:

          I do not condone the actions of those found guity, but am not prepared to listen about another false martyr

          In a major blow to the defense, Walmsley ruled that they could not admit any evidence of Arbery’s troubled past — including brushes with the law and mental heath history.

          Lawyers for the McMichaels argued in court papers that Arbery’s criminal record stretching back to 2013 showed he had “used running or jogging as a cover to commit crimes” and that he had a pattern of either fleeing when confronted or aggressively challenging his accusers.


          In at least two police encounters, Arbery allegedly cursed at and threatened officers, the papers say.

          When Arbery was killed, he was on probation for two crimes. He had carried a handgun onto school property in 2013 and fled from police when confronted. Six years later, he tried to shoplift a television, the papers say.


          Robert Rubin, one of the attorneys representing Travis McMichael, said Arbery was known as the “jogger” for dashing into convenience stores, allegedly grabbing food and running out.

          In June 2018, his mom, Wanda Cooper-Jones, called 911 after he refused to hand over her car keys. She allegedly warned the operator that her son had a mental condition and could become violent if police were too confrontational, Rubin wrote.

          Arbery’s mental health was allegedly spiraling, and he was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder later that year, according to the filing.


  3. andyjsnape says:

    Ahmaud Arbery: Three US men guilty of murdering black jogger, “reports” the bBC

    Quote “Three white men have been found guilty of killing etc..”

    It was the white men, ffs. BIASED reporting.

    I have not sponsored the bbc for years and will never again!


    • markh says:

      ‘Remember folks you saw it first here on the BBC’ Yes, and we will ad nauseam for the next few weeks.


    • JohnC says:

      I remember a BBC bod at the time talking about the fact they had CCTV of the guy snooping around someones house-build earlier – which was the start point for them targeting him for a citizens arrest (which ended up with the shooting).

      He actually said ‘Perhaps he was just looking for a refreshing drink’.

      This sums it up perfectly for me. The guy was a scumbag thief but you can’t shoot scumbag thieves so they are going to jail.

      Plus of course the juries lives would be threatened if they found him innocent.

      But the stand-out part of this story is: ‘Three white men have been found guilty of killing a black jogger ‘

      Where is the race element for the BLM supporter Darrel Brooks murders BBC ?.

      Shameless, disgusting, racist hypocrites.


  4. dafydd says:

    Here we go, French now blaming the UK for yesterday’s appalling tragedy.

    BBC and SKY suggesting it’s the Governments fault..

    What parent would take there young child on such a dangerous journey, unbelievable, reckless and criminal

    Here we go, Labour MP on Sky now politicising the tragedy, only Labour could stoop so low, scumbags

    What happened is heartbreaking but they only have themselves to blame I’m sorry to say..


    • Guest Who says:

      Mishal updating her chart?


    • theisland says:

      The globalist/Labour/lefty/traitor stance is to blame what they disingenuously claim to be a lack of legal routes for asylum to the UK.

      They are cynically using the deaths of illegals/invaders as an argument to let even more into the country in accordance with the big global plan.

      There should be less coming in – not more – and those already here illegally should be removed.


  5. Guest Who says:

    Much explained.


    • Guest Who says:

      British Bangladeshi. Gen 1.


      • JimS says:

        Looks more like a Nigerian ‘princess’ struggling to get to grips with BACS!

        Is Getty Images the new Henry Ford?


        • JohnC says:

          All you need to know about Getty is that they spell ‘black’ with a capital B everywhere.


    • G says:

      I remember considering an application to GCHQ when I returned from the Middle East in the 1980’s. Their advertisement emphasised the need for languages. Regular ‘languages’ you needed two degrees in, i.e. French / German. As I looked down the list, based upon more difficult languages, top of that was, Serb/Croat and Arabic. Indeed GCHQ would work with applicants without formal quals, in those two. I had studied Arabic and was competent in a day-to-day situation. Point being how can that work when the ‘minority’ trainees cannot even speak English properly.


      • Charlie Farley says:

        As an ex Grammar School boy in the 1960s I went on a School trip to GCHQ ……obviously we were of the ‘ right sort ‘ to work there ! . That wouldn’t happen now of course as we were not diverse enough in Colour and Sexual Orientation eg Filby and Co ! !


        • Fedup2 says:

          G/Charlie – I’m sure whoever monitors this site for evidence of the approved ‘extremism ‘ will enjoy your comment .


  6. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile Springster hits the big time talking to her friends in the media here. Joe.


  7. Guest Who says:

    Lightened mood.



  8. Fedup2 says:

    Happy Thanksgiving – we should have it as a public holiday for getting out of the ReichEU.

    Toady watch
    BBC using the channel drownings to make it easier for illegals to enter the country without risk . I suppose it was inevitable .

    Unfortunately these drownings will not act as a deterrent and more will keep coming .

    That idea about sticking ships in the channel to put them on and take away sounds good . Problem is they’d need to be big and a lot of them .

    I wonder how many drownings it would take to make a difference . ?

    The French blame us for making it too easy to disappear into the country and get work ….


    • G says:


      “The French blame us for making it too easy to disappear into the country and get work ….”

      All part of the gross mismanagement of Government(s) over the past decades. Slowly but surely becoming more obvious by the day.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Things not said

        1 it is in the interest of France to get rid of as much third worlders as possible

        2 macron uses it as a weapon against the hated Britain

        3 those arriving will inevitably be allowed to stay

        4 politicians are not brave enough to deal

        5 nothing will change

        6 those who drowned never got here ……


  9. Fedup2 says:

    Toady 2
    Sopel does a piece about thank giving and leaving America . Obviously it didn’t take long to put the boot into the true President . And giving a free pass to the current dementia victim .
    Please can we have less of Sopel . A dead Labour Party leaders’ daughter now has the gig . Surely the fact checker should have got it ?


    • Rich says:


      Speaking of fact-checkers.

      Can’t imagine the UK ones are that different from the ones across the pond.


      • Docmarooned says:

        I doubt these so called “fact checkers” have the necessary intelligence or qualifications to make their judgement calls.
        Would bet they simply check against prevailing bbc opinion and call anything at variance with their group think as fake.


    • Banania says:

      Yes, send her overseas!


  10. AsISeeIt says:

    Today we have the eminently predictable: ‘27 migrants die in Channel disaster’ (Telegraph) reported numbers will vary at time of going to press but the fact is that those who either encouraged or ignored or did nothing concrete to discourage this illegal traffic, are the ones who are actually complicit in these deaths.

    The Times prevaricates somewhat then punts a slightly higher number than the Telegraph, still leaving room for error: ‘Dozens of migrants drown in Channel dinghy tragedy. At least 31 dead after boat deflates off Calais

    Our most coronaphobic of national news titles the ‘i’ relegates, perforce, their long and eagerly anticipated breathless announcement: ‘New Covis varient found‘ headline to a health feature on their unlucky page 13, but has no fear in trotting out the very biggest imaginable holy cow of a cliché: ‘Horror in the Channel: 31 die in search of a better life

    And if that hoary old saw “better life” made you wince a bit over your cornflakes… good news, you’re probably not a virtue-signalling metropolitan lefty type.

    These unfortunates are of course just the tip of the top section of a very large iceberg: ‘More than 200 people reach England in a day as they race to beat winter storms‘ (Telegraph)

    But is this incident the tipping point?

    Four suspected traffickers are arrested near Belgian border, accused of links to the sunken boat‘ (‘i’) – gosh that sounds like quick work by the gendarmerie. If investigation can be done that quick and easy then howcome…? Or are we being told PR tales of the typical quick dragnet reaction of cops caught with their pantalons down?

    We’ve seen a bit of that lately: ‘Four men arrested in relation to Liverpool bomb blast released‘ (Liverpool Echo 15 November)

    The Daily Mail falls into the trap of blaming it all on those legendary so-called people traffickers: ‘You’re letting gangs get away with murder‘ – that claim doesn’t really hold water – traffickers really don’t want their passengers failing to reach their preferred destination – this is about the worst advert the supposed traffickers will have had lately.

    This does however seem to be the official line: ‘PM: Smugglers are getting away with murder‘ (Daily Express)

    I’m a people traffickers sceptic. If you get my drift? If it weren’t for the promise of holidays, there wouldn’t be travel agents, would there?

    Which, apparently, there might not be – at least for us legal travellers: ‘Ski season in peril. New rules in EU could affect winter hoildays‘ (‘i’) – interesting to see Europe tightening its borders.

    The freebie Metro asks the obvious: ‘Why didn’t France stop them?

    The Labour-supporting Daily Mirror has to balance the internationalism and freedom of movement policies of the Party so when a boat goes down – they can only tug (no pun intended) at the heartstrings: ‘A human tragedy

    Oh the humanity!‘ cried the American commentator as the airship Hindenburg burst into flame on the old newsreel footage in 1937.

    Shameful‘ exclaims the Sun: ‘French police idly look on as rafts head to UK‘ – the tabloid is more than happy to J’Accuse…! the French meanwhile going large on the death toll: ‘Hours later, 33 migrants die.. one a little girl

    Frankly, I don’t know whether you’ve ever stood on a cliff trying to hold back the onrush of a determined flock of lemmings? The French have a point when they point to the UK pull factor being the main problem.

    How odd that our UK government evidently so very keen on the notion of the nudge factor when it comes to their policies, are keen to deny the pull factor in the immigration realm.

    Three guesses as to how the Guardian would cut the Gordian Knot? – I employ the classical Greek reference there since our lazy boy Boris, once the determined classicist, now seems to have contracted nappy-brain and reverts not to Plato but to Peppa Pig when in a fluster with his oratory. I digress.

    Guardian: ‘Charities urge UK government to save lives by opening safe routes for asylum seekers… “Now is the time to end the cruel tactic of seeking to punish or push away those who seek safety here”‘ – and in what appears to this reader as somewhat of a reversion to pre-feminist sentiments, it is very much women and children first over there at the Gruan: ‘Five women and one girl among victims after inflatable dinghy sinks during Channel crossing

    Odd echoes of that old journalistic trope – “Deadly earthquake in Peru – no Britains hurt

    Not that the Guardian doesn’t shed a tear or two for young men of colour – it’s just that they continually have that point to prove that these migrants are families rather than the obvious fact that they are predominently fighting age chaps.

    As if to prove a point – also from the Guardian front page: ‘Three white men whose murder of a black jogger led to a resurgence in the Black Lives Matter movement face life in jail

    I feel sorry for The Voice, the only British national Afro-Caribbean weekly newspaper, which having had their thunder (voice?) well and truly stolen by left-leaning white publications such as the Gruan, despite the significant growth of their target demographic, has contracted to a rather token monthly issue.

    Anything else on the frontpages?

    Germany goes liberal. Olaf Scholz has secured his place as the next Chancellor of Germany… to usher in socially liberal policies on immigration, trans rights and cannabis‘ (Times) – trying to lure us back into the EU, perchance?

    I’m put in mind of that classic war movie scene where the British POW is hauled in before the camp commandant, recaptured and having been bruised and beaten by the Gestapo, he is surprised to be offered a chair and then a cigarette from a silver cigarette box: “You see, vee Germans, vee are not all zee barbarians!


    • JimS says:

      “If investigation can be done that quick and easy then howcome?”

      Where do all those ‘boats’ come from? Someone is selling them, someone is buying them.

      Or does Border Force take them back each night and tie them up on a Calais beach? Which begs another question: How long is the actual coastline being used for departure? I bet it isn’t that long.

      The invasion isn’t a problem for the French or UK governments, the problem is keeping it out of the news.


      • G.W.F. says:

        It’s not just the boats, they are coming in the backs of lorries, also in caravans. Customs might catch a few, but not all


        • BigBrotherCorporation says:

          Talking to a friend living in South London some years back, he said there was a quiet supermarket car park he regularly walked past with his dog around 6:30-7:00 every morning. According to him, every morning there were three, or four battered old white vans/minibuses with East European (?) plates disgorging a dozen, or more East European/Gipsy/Middle Eastern looking men, each with a couple of bulging bin bags/backpacks/bedrolls etc…

          Who knows where these men were from, what their intentions were, or where they were going?

          How many such car parks, how many such ‘deliveries’, over how many years?

          No problem with legal immigration, but it doesn’t look like anyone has been keeping watch for decades.


    • Banania says:

      “…as they race to beat winter storms.”
      This can be a Harvest Thanksgiving theme:
      All is safely gathered in
      Ere the winter storms begin.


  11. markh says:

    ‘Remember folks you saw it first here on the BBC’ Yes, and we will ad nauseam until they find the next race-baiting story. Just close them down for God’s sake.


  12. Up2snuff says:

    FRAMING TODAY Watch #1 – why then are you doing it?

    I caught the last five minutes of Farming Today with Charlotte Smith. Waitrose wins an award in the BBC Food and Farming Awards. There’s a surprise!

    Latest fear/scare story: wines will be in short supply this Christmas. Yeah. We’ve heard that one before. How many of those ‘shortage stories’ have turned out to be true? A big fat zero so far. The spokesman for something or other said they (he) was “not trying to encourage panic buying” (not much!) but he wanted an extension to the temporary visa scheme for lorry drivers for a whole year! This was the scheme (in the face of an artificially created shortage) to encourage HGV drivers from within the EU to come to the UK which has been, due to Pandemic times, spectacularly unsuccessful.

    Now, a little alarm bell rang in my head as he spoke. Spin, spin, spin it went. I seem to recall a distinct lack of articulated lorries delivering wines to Off Licences. Vans, yes. No HGV licence required artics at all. I seem to recall Threshers having their own transit vans (were they a sort of brown colour like a well-known US postal company?) with their name on the side.

    OK, a lot of wine is sold in supermarkets but those shops have their own distribution set-ups and while an HGV is involved in deliveries to the supermarkets, all the shortage SCARE! stories have turned out, so far, to be very different from reality.

    BBC FRAMING TOADY appears to have an agenda and it is not a pro-UK one.


    • JimS says:

      Can’t see there will be a problem. A long-running agenda item of the BBC is ‘expensive food’, ‘cheap’ food is bad!

      I am sure Charles, semi-retired BBC producer, will still pop along to the local Farmers’ Market on his tricycle plus trailer to sell his 100 bottles of Cotswold wines at £100 per bottle as usual. (Goes well with Adam Henson’s pedigree lamb as advertised seen on Countryfile).


  13. taffman says:

    “UK migration: Brexit and Covid produce big drop in numbers”
    Is that the numbers that they are able to count? How many million have ‘gone under’ the radar and have not been counted ?


  14. andyjsnape says:

    bBC webshite reports “Efforts to identify 27 people drowned in the channel”

    Compensation time for the worldwide families, all free (unless your a taxpayer)


    • JohnC says:

      You jest, but I would not be surprised in the slightest if someone tries to sue our government over it.

      I am quite certain there are scumbag lawyers scouring ‘Human Rights’ legislation as we speak looking for any way to do it.


      • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

        You would have hoped those HR lawyers were too busy with all the discrimination claims of sacked care workers.


  15. taffman says:

    “No babies allowed in Commons, MP Stella Creasy told”
    The nation is in crisis and she wants babies in Parliament ? I would have thought that there were than enough “babies” in there now.
    Yet another own goal by Labour !


  16. taffman says:

    Consider this WW 2 Scenario
    Admiral of the Home Fleet ………..”Mr Churchill there are 50 German landing craft coming across the English Channel and the commandos on board threaten to drown themselves in the sea if they are not allowed to cross, its very difficult to solve, what shall we do ?”

    Mr Churchill………… ” ***k the B@*****s!! ”

    Simples .


  17. G says:

    “Could Parliament pass a law that all blue-eyed babies be murdered?”
    “But what if Parliament passed a law that if a blue-eyed baby was murdered, there could be: no civil case against the murderer; no inquest into the circumstances of the death; no prosecution of the murderer; and there could not even be a police investigation?”

    Welcome, one and all, to, “The Northern Ireland Legacy Proposals”.

    “No prosecutions. No police investigations. No investigations by the Police Ombudsman; end (ongoing) judicial activity in relation to Troubles-related conduct across the spectrum of criminal cases, and current and future civil cases and inquests.”

    Lockstep with the US markedly abandoning The Law.



  18. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – the vital question not asked by the BBC

    Martha ‘The Bee Lady’ Kearney took care of the Prime Interview while Justin Webb handled the advertising slot on a grim morning. You would have thought that a ‘light’ item was very inappropriate after Kevin Foster MP, Under-SoS for Immigration and Future BoardersBorders with the Home Office was the Sacrificial Tory Lamb after 27 illegal immigrants died trying to reach the UK yesterday. Kevin was suitably wet and weedy in Molesworth-speak for Martha who did not have any tough questions. At least Martha did not interrupt.

    Martha did not ask the key question that has been lurking in Snuffy’s mind for weeks: “Why have MI6 not infiltrated the trafficking gangs and identified the guilty parties?” and “Are MI6 actively investigating them?” Whether Kevin Foster would have given a good answer, one knows not, the vital question was not asked.

    Yet another example of BBC dereliction of duty.


  19. The Mouse says:

    I am sure most on this website know the score but for the record.

    This is a straw man, I paraphrase and add my own words in bold

    “if we can only dismantle the ILLEGAL migration/refugee/ECONOMIC migrant smuggling gangs that should about solve it”.

    Bloody ridiculous argument being used by those who almost certainly know that when one gang is taken out another and another take their place. Have we solved the drug problem, fraud problem, gang knifing problem, etc, etc yet by removing a few gangs. There is a never ending supply of ILLEGAL MIGRANTS and ILLEGAL GANGS. Useless Patel, Boris and the many other ineffective ‘tories’ must go – Reform and other right wing parties are our only future prospects for reversing this death by a thousand cuts of a once proud nation.


    • tomo says:

      I’ve read that the smuggling gangs are armed and not afraid to use those weapons – we aren’t getting anywhere near the whole story.

      Albanians and Turks?


      • Up2snuff says:

        Suggested at lunchtime on TWatO that it is nationals from the same country who are doing the trafficking. Not sure how that works when you have Syrians, Afghans, Nigerians and VietNamese all in one boat.


  20. Fedup2 says:

    BBC news

    Running a shameful apologist for the illegals soundbite – and the noises any third world country ( France in this case ) runs when something bad happens – arrest the usual suspects.

    Then either quietly release them after the news has gone elsewhere – or do a deal for a no sentence guilty plea …..

    Standard method – weekend coming – another story will be along soon . The channel invasion disappears from the BBC again …..
    At least now that we know there will be no army they can put these criminals into the empty barracks …


  21. taffman says:

    My message to Al Beeb and Peppa Pig……………… The French are quite happy to see their illegal immigrants leave France and head to England.
    How long will it take our ‘leaders’ for that message to sink in?


  22. JohnC says:

    Southall stabbing: Murder probe after boy, 16, dies.

    And another one straight into ‘regions’ with this little gem hidden in it:
    ‘The boy is the 28th teenager to be killed in London this year. The most recorded in one year was 29 in 2008.’. I wonder if we will get a big headline when the new recored is set.

    Meanwhile the murder of one black career criminal in the USA by white people trying to arrest him is still up there in the main pages.

    The lives of people are not important at all to the BBC except when they can be used to support their far-Left agenda.


  23. Fedup2 says:

    Meanwhile coloured boys in london are still happily stabbing and killing each other. A 16 year old last night and a 14 year old last weekend .
    Keepers of stats will see we are on plan to exceed previous years .

    These dont count because whitee isnt involved . Weird world isnt it – ? When the word’ paki ‘ causes more offence than death ..

    JohnC – great minds …


  24. tomo says:

    bluidy SUVs



    • JohnC says:

      That is absolutely disgraceful journalism by the Washington post.

      ’cause: a person or thing that gives rise to an action, phenomenon, or condition.’

      Unless it drove itself of course.

      What baffles me is how these kind of absolutely deliberate misrepresentations go unchallenged by the supposed intelligent people reading them. And this one isn’t bad compared to some of the completely lopsided tripe I’ve seen on CNN.


  25. JohnC says:

    ‘Tripura: Fear and hope after anti-Muslim violence’

    Funny how they will use the word Muslim when they are victims, but never when they are the ones dishing out the violence. Particularly when they blow people to pieces are stab them in the neck.

    And the reason – which is official BBC policy – is so they don’t upset other Muslims.


  26. Thoughtful says:

    Interesting how in the case of Ahmaud Arbrey the media feels it’s ok to state in the headline that the killers where WHITE MALES, when it is absolutely clear they refuse to even mention the colour race religion or anything else when a criminal is anything other than White.

    This is blatant race hate on the part of the media and it is becoming more prevalent in our Socialist society. It should be stamped out.


    • Fedup2 says:

      It is a bit interesting / sick -when the head of the executive makes comments on the verdicts of 12 jurors in the judicial system .
      Makes for the stench of political trials much stronger . You’d have thought Obama would have known better but I guess he thinks is safe with Biden as the buffer …


    • maxincony says:


      This is blatant race hate on the part of the media…


      Thoughtful, Nov 16, 2021:

      there’s no such thing as racism, it’s as real as the bogeyman !


  27. MarkyMark says:

    Leave their country – local government is to blame.

    Go through multiple safe countries – safe countries to blame for not tacking them.

    Reach English channel – French police to blame for ignoring them.

    Cross English channel – traffickers to blame for providing boat and money (will demand payments back later or violence)

    Reach Kent shore – UK to blame for not caring. Ambassador asked why he cannot look after his own country men?


  28. MarkyMark says:

    This Lady still has a job and is promoted by the BBC … why?

    “Lily Allen sparks outrage by claiming Rochdale grooming gang victims ‘would have been raped or abused by somebody else at some point’
    Lily Allen said victims of grooming gangs would have been ‘raped at some point’
    The singer has sparked fury on social media following the inflammatory tweet
    She later apologised to women and girls from Rochdale who were offended

    PUBLISHED: 14:11, 8 January 2018”

    . . . . .

    Lily Allen on making her West End debut in 2:22 – A Ghost Story


    • Garry Lavin says:

      Did she really say that?! Dear me. It was going on when I was at college in Rochdale in 1970.

      I must say that then, the girls were from rough areas…..and saw hanging around with the taxi drivers and restaurant owners as some kind of exotic life…where they were stars. But that vulnerability was exploited big style.

      51 years is a lot of abuse.


  29. tomo says:

    Da Beast from Botswana set to displace Santa?

    BBC sure to follow up on this one?



    • Fedup2 says:

      Nice timing – advent starts this weekend – and along comes a Project Fear …. Maybe it will be imported via the dinghies ..


    • Thoughtful says:

      Take a look at the “Great Barrington Declaration” which is a statement now signed by over 60000 scientists some of which lost their jobs over signing it – remember than when the universities bosses lie about academic freedom.

      It concerns the mismanagement of the covid pandemic by those placed to advise governments who in the first instance acted without sufficient information, but who now, being in possession of sufficient information are incapable of changing the approach because it might mean admitting the first approach was wrong.


    • Old Goat says:

      But “Delta” was a pussycat…


    • G says:

      I think the MailonLine have got it wrong. The strain is B.1.429. It’s been around since April 2021 at least. See this PubMed article:

      Misinformation anybody? (Otherwise known as ‘Fake News’)


    • Banania says:

      The deadly variant: here it comes, right on cue! And what’s the betting it will be specially dangerous to young people – because that is a gap that needs filling just now.


  30. MarkyMark says:

    2018 … UK to pay extra £44.5m for Calais security in Anglo-French deal
    This article is more than 3 years old
    Funds to be announced along with plans to revise Le Touquet accord on asylum seekers



  31. MarkyMark says:

    Relinquishing the stresses of Prime Ministerial office have done wonders for loosening up the Maybot. She stole the show last night dancing on stage to her classic Dancing Queen, boogying with former Justice Secretary Robert Buckland. She won the ‘Backbencher of the Year’ award and opened by thanking her colleagues “who ensured that I was on the backbenches – some of you are here tonight.” The zenith of her performance, however, came at the end when she concluded with a totally unexpected filthy joke. Audio courtesy of Steerpike:


  32. MarkyMark says:

    “That’s why I say Islam saved me, because now I know the best way for me to handle those dark times. I wouldn’t have coped this way, by praying and taking care of my mental health as well as physical, if it wasn’t for Islam.”


    “I wanted to do everything by the book without understanding the interpretation of the Quran properly. I wanted to go hard and do everything with conviction.”


  33. MarkyMark says:

    Alec Badlwin kills with a gun … Ant and Dec with rotten fruit.

    Fish guts and offal
    On Wednesday’s show, before falling ill, Madeley slid head first into a sewer of rotten fruit and vegetables during a trial.


  34. MarkyMark says:

    Biden does what Trump did yet does not get criticised …

    Eight Chinese-based technology firms were added to the so-called “Entity List” for their alleged role in assisting the Chinese military’s quantum computing efforts and acquiring or attempting “to acquire US origin-items in support of military applications”.

    This entity list has increasingly been used for national security reasons since the previous Trump administration.


  35. theisland says:

    Some facts from EU Commission statistics (Eurostat) and EU Parliament.

    Detected illegal migrants in the EU in 2020
    557,455 illegal migrants were found in the EU, that the EU is aware of
    396,435 people were ordered to leave the EU in 2020
    Only 27,378 were compulsorily deported – 4.9% of the total illegal migrant population
    Main nationalities ordered to leave were Algerian, Moroccan, Albanian, Ukrainian and Pakistani
    Last year alone 125,226 illegal border crossings into the EU were detected
    Out of 557,455, just 12,300 are children (<14yrs)
    That is just 2.2% of the total
    Almost 98% are adults or older teenagers
    83.3% of the total are male
    Of these, 75.1% are aged under 35
    1.0% of the illegal migrants are girls aged under 14


    • Doublethinker says:

      As long as the UK custom and practise is to give immigrants luxury they have previously only dreamed of they will keep coming. If their asylum application fails they are allowed to appeal , at the tax payers expense , ad infinitum. They are never deported.
      In France they are housed in allegedly squalid camps , in the UK in good hotels. In the UK if those who are put in ‘government accommodation ‘ are found to be unhappy with the conditions the government is forced by this or that watch dog to move them .
      In the UK there are many naive or subversive organisations , such as the Cof E or the BBC/Guardian axis of evil and the civil service, which scream blue murder if anyone try’s to stop the flow of migrants.
      Basically if the governments wants to stop the flow and regain control and its previous popularity it must change our laws so that illegals get a deal similar to that in France.
      If our elected government doesn’t have the appetite to take on the liberal blob then it proves that democracy is dead because there is certainly a majority in favour of stopping these invaders.


  36. theisland says:


    That’s the Sallies off the donation list then – how sad.


    • JohnC says:

      I will offer my own apology:

      I am sincerely sorry and full of regret that my ancestors took black people from Africa against their will and brought them to the West.

      We all agree – both Left and Right – that the world would be a better place if we had just left them there.


      • Fedup2 says:

        It was good for the boss class which profited from them and their descendants living their global lives on inherited wealth .

        But for the rest of us peasants – we just suffer the consequences every day .. to a varying extent …


        • JohnC says:

          Maybe so, but I don’t believe for one second that it is the real reason they are calling everybody racists.

          They are a minority who are being given inches every time they demand a foot. The end result is always that they benefit – either through more jobs, more promotion, more awards, compensation etc. If this reason disappeared they would invent another.

          Have you ever heard of a BAME refusing an award because they don’t think they deserved it and got it through anti-white racism ?. I’m sure maxi would spill his coffee in his rush to give me an example, but in reality it never happens.

          It’s nothing more than greed, hypocrisy and a very large slice of their own racism.


      • Thoughtful says:

        Trouble is that the majority of them were never the victims of the Slave trade and the numbers who were taken to North America was tiny.
        In the 375 years of the slave trade only 388000 were taken to North America, around 1000 per year. That is far too small a number to account for the numbers there now claiming to have been descendant of those original slaves.


  37. G.W.F. says:


    This saddens me. My grandad used to tell me of the way the Sally Army used to help the lads in the trenches in the first war and my dad recalls how they supplied meals for working class folk during the depression. The army knew about poverty and hard times suffered by the British people and ought to know better than to ram guilt and white privilege down our throats. Screw them.


    • Zephir says:

      Me also, although I have looked at the UK website and there is no mention of this, which is confusing as I will not be making my usual Xmas donation if they all subscribe to this racism


  38. JohnC says:

    Jennifer and Stephen Chapple: Man appears in court over murders

    Big surprise ! – they have pictured the man accused of murder. It’s been a while since they did that.

    Not a surprise at all – he’s white.

    The double standards of the BBC are so extreme now, it’s just embarassing. How can they be so oblivious to how obvious they are ?. Have they no shame at all ?.


  39. MarkyMark says:

    Hijab now receded …

    Gorgeous golden sugar-crusted crème brûlée custard tart
    Nadiya serves up her delicious crème brûlée custard tart with pretzel and hazelnut speckled pastry.

    Release date: 18 November 2021



  40. G.W.F. says:

    Looking forward to the demo supporting migrants on Saturday.
    This is called by the UAF, a front for the Trot SWP, which is
    remarkably close to the BBC on politics.
    British racism is somehow responsible for making the migrants risk their lives and drown in the attempt to experience it.
    Unite Against Fascism

    ”Emergency Stand Up To Racism solidarity protest: Saturday 27 November, 2pm outside Downing Street
    Don’t Let Them Drown – Refugees Welcome
    Our thoughts are with those who have lost their lives, and their loved ones.
    The British government’s racist hostile environment, and its latest attack on refugees and migrants in the Nationality and Borders Bill, has and will continue to lead to the horror and tragedy of loss of life in the Channel.”


  41. s.trubble says:

    As Sopel comes home in Business Class how will he be remembered for his US stint?

    1) Another beauty
    2) A parasite who fed upon other peoples output surviving by adding his own almost passer-by style always following the bBc narrative
    3) A deep personal hatred for Mr. Trump
    4) Forgotten

    Be interesting to see where this wage thief ends up…


  42. digg says:

    The Governments biggest mistake in the migrant merry-go-round was to hand over the responsibility of care of the arrivals to a private Company who are paid handsomely for each “head” they take on.

    This must be a massive incentive to keep the ball rolling and get as many of these people into the UK as they can.

    They will also be under no pressure to get these people into mainstream society e.g. looking after themselves through their own efforts as the longer they spend in this “guest” status with the Private Company, the more profit that Company makes.

    Illegal migrants should be a core responsibility of the Government and any illegal arrivals should be put in the hands of the Government border force etc. who’s job must be to vet the legitimate ones and remove the rest back to where they came as quickly as possible.

    Citizens are the Global responsibility of their native Country so any Country refusing to cooperate should be subject to a total cut off of diplomatic and financial benefits from the UK.

    If a person was deemed to be “illegal” in this respect then they must not qualify for legal help from the other gannets in the current system being the activist migrant specialist lawyers who also coin it in handsomely the bigger the problem gets.

    Put simply, private profit must be eradicated from the system as it warps the ability of the government to look after it’s own legitimate citizens.

    If this was the accepted model, the flood would dry up in no time.

    Which is precisely what the French are trying to tell our dumb parliament and leader.

    I am pretty sure that if I stepped off a plane to the USA, France, Germany or almost any Country in the World except the UK without passport I would very quickly find myself either in Jail or on a plane home.


    • G says:


      The USA…………


    • JimS says:

      I have said it before. If someone wants help from me they can knock on my front door, they don’t climb over the back garden fence.

      Anyone who does that is a potential thief, trespasser or house breaker and in a perfect world a call to the police would see them quickly arrested.

      The same should apply to the France-UK border, arrive via a proper immigration post, OK, via the ‘back door’, instant crime, instant arrest, instant locking up then deportation.


  43. Old Goat says:


  44. Zephir says:

    Someone, somewhere must be co ordinating this attempt to start a race war in the USA

    Thanksgiving canceled? Liberals who say America’s holiday promotes genocide and White supremacy
    A green bean casserole recipe on the website Eater this week carried a warning for readers about the Pilgrims

    On MSNBC over the weekend, Gyasi Ross, who is Native American, explained a segment that white people have created a fake story around Thanksgiving and that the pilgrims are responsible for a system of White supremacy that is used to carry out “state sponsored” violence against Black people to this day.


    In mid-November, the chancellor of the Washington, D.C., public schools, sent a letter to the D.C. public schools community encouraging parents and children to “decolonize” Thanksgiving, a holiday which he said brings up “horrors.”

    Lifestyle media company Green Matters posted an article this week outlining the many ways Thanksgiving is “bad.”

    “Not only is Thanksgiving offensive to Indigenous people, but it glorifies colonialism, slavery, and even epidemics,” the article states. “Many Americans who celebrate Thanksgiving have no idea just how cruel the holiday’s origins are, while those who do may choose to either boycott the holiday, or just use it as an excuse to express general gratitude, gather with family, and eat comfort foods.”


  45. Halifax says:

    Sums up the BBC re failed attempt to attack remeberence parade in Liverpool.

    Iraq-born asylum seeker Al Swealmeen was a passenger in the taxi.

    Head in my hands. When will it all stop?


  46. Zephir says:

    Waukesha parade attack: Washington Post pummeled for tweet saying massacre was ’caused by an SUV’
    Newspaper appeared to blame SUV, not suspect Darrell Brooks, for the deadly attack in Wisconsin



    • JohnC says:

      The question is : why ?.

      I absolutely cannot understand why this is happening. It completely goes against every bit of logic I have after many years as an engineer working in the real world coming up with solutions for real problems.


  47. taffman says:

    “Channel migrants: Why can’t crossings be stopped?”
    The new plan is the Home Office’s Nationality and Borders Bill.

    “It controversially plans to treat anyone arriving via unauthorised means differently to refugees who come by approved routes – something many legal experts think would be unlawful.”
    Thereby lies the problem.
    “Many legal experts” making big bucks while the people of this country pay their wages .
    Who decides what is controversial ? – Al Beeb and their apologist ‘friends’.


  48. taffman says:

    “Covid pass: Swansea cinema owner fails to show at court”
    At least someone down south taffland s standing up to the ‘Little Dictator’.


  49. Guest Who says:

    The Internet sets alight.


  50. Thoughtful says:

    I think todays reaction of the Blue Labour Marxist Tory party to the migrant crossings really does throw into the light just how incompetent useless and cowardly they are.

    They’ve failed to take any action at all for months save giving our money away to France for nothing in return, and now some migrants have died making an illegal crossing and the Tories are up in arms about it.

    Clearly they had no problem with them actually arriving here, but failing to arrive here was a real issue for them. So finally Red Boris the Marxist leader of Blue Labour is spurred into action as he blames Macron for everything along with anyuone else he can think of because accepting responsibility is not something Socialists can countenance.